Is that paper or felt? I'm surprised you're not using a high thread count sheet for that. You can steam or iron sheets to get the fold creases out of them for a better look. My brother made a projection screen out of a bed sheet, and after 8 years, it still looks good. (His projector died, but it died while he was cleaning it. So there is that.) I'm going to his house Saturday to play D&D. I can grab a shot of it if you'd like.
Oh, on the Tee-Shirt front: 1. Craft stores (like Michaels) sells tee-shirts that are color consistent and do not have logos. Granted, their shirts are for silk screening, image transfers (like the iron on patches), and painting. But they'll also work as a cost effective, "I need something that isn't going to give chromakey a headache" shirt. 2. Tom Scott picked one specific color of shirt (red) and has ordered them in bulk to save some money. He did this primarily to disguise the fact that shoots for his videos often take days (and not even contiguous days) to film. Thus, the red tee-shirt became part of the "Tom Scott" brand. His friend Matt Gray wears blue tee-shirts on camera for the same reason. (Here's the Matt and Tom video where Tom talks about it: czcams.com/video/p4SoSBo_nsI/video.html&feature=emb_logo&ab_channel=MattandTom )
@Dyanosis Haha it's no trouble for me, doing this stuff is something I enjoy, I come from a design background and making things work with what you've got is an art form I have fun with. Green screens aren't expensive nowadays, they used to cost hundreds but they finally got the cheap ones in a few years ago. I just had this for the past few years and didn't realise it was getting weaker. Holds together if you don't touch it lol. Moving to another country is on the tables but living costs would go up a ton and it has to be beneficial for the Mrs' career. Her career's flexible but not as much as mine is.
@@jackielinde7568 My first green screen was like that but it was kind of the wrong colour, so I bought this cheap one in the right colour a few years ago and just been using that out of convenience. This next one is fabric again, should be here tomorrow.
@@GamerZakh 1. Good to hear a new one is coming soon. 2. We all been there. I bought a 96 Honda Accord for $2k USD only intending to drive it for two years, until I could get a down payment on something better. Drove that thing to death and got my current ride in 2014... Yikes.
GamerZakh: "Every time I made the green screen look good for my hair, it made my body look weird." Me: "You mean your body doesn't normally look weird?" Remember, you're a gamer. You're one of us. Your supposed to look weird. :P
I admire your enthusiasm for doing this. I like to watch your channel because of it, I don't even know where did I pick you up (edit: I think it was your game lists), nor did I engage with your content that much, but ever since I subbed you I never actually decided NOT to watch your content if it popped up. You're a smart and interesting guy with a genuine desire to make quality things and show interesting stuff, and you deserve an audience. This is just as interesting as well, please keep it up.
Absolute genius solution. I know you say you're working with a green screen and camera that could be better, but I see the hair/body problem all the time. I have very fine hair and it looks terrible on green screen, so I've been using the hat solution, but it's not perfect because my hair sticks out from under my hat giving me a blur around the ears. I didn't even realize it was possible to have split settings. I'll have to give it a try.
My first green screen was just a cheap cloth from a budget fabric store, got it for 1USD a metre. Mistake was I got a warm green, so with slightly orange lights it was almost yellow on camera. Best to get a blue-green type colour.
I, too, like your hair :-) Also, I always find it interesting to see or know a bit about the behind the scenes. It can be alot of work, so why not show it sometimes.
Thanks for the "behind the scenes" video. I wondered how you avoid having hair like Giogio A. Tsoukalos. I originally thought it was alien technology at work.
Yeah I'm currently trying to put a light behind me but because my green screen is suddenly short I can't have it behind and out of frame haha. Once I get a new screen in I should be able to do it.
Basically you make an image of a black to white gradient. What is white will be visible and what is black will be hidden. Then, create a filter for a source, the filter is Image Mask/Blend, then type is Alpha Mask (Color Channel) with the Path being the black to white gradient. Select the Color as #ffffff and the mask will be applied to the source you're adding the filter to.
Hi Janky, Absolute agree with Garrick's earlier comment...'Absolute Genius Solution'...In my ignorance could you give me more details on the split sources and graduated filter? I also have 'spikey' hair and it plays havoc with Chroma Keying.... Many Thanks
Yeah I can try help. Basically I just create two sources for my camera and I put different filters on each one. One uses a fade from top to bottom while the other uses a bottom to top fade, but with plenty of overlap so you're not disappearing in the middle.
@@GamerZakh My apologies Zakh, with my original salutation Janky...Thank you for responding so quickly, I'll try it out tonight and see how I get on...👍
In my experience the best camera is the best one you can comfortably afford lol. Phones nowadays can actually work really well, good shots are mostly about lighting.
what are you using to block out the natural light? was that sound dampening foam? any other cheap ideas, I have a real lighting problem from my window at the moment! Anyway thanks for the video, very interesting! Thanks for the tips about the Sony camera as well.
That is acoustic foam, found an online seller who sold these big pieces for cheap and I needed it to stop the echo. I got one piece of foam against the nearest window but I don't do a lot of natural light control because I stream and record at night. Blackout curtains work great though, IKEA has some cheap ones.
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The background I use is a scene from Morrowind and then I designed more stuff for it haha. I'm not sure where you can get decent backgrounds, I tend to make my own assets.
Awesome solution! Been trying to figure out how to get it to work but I'm ending up with a small black line where the two different image masks meet. I've got two opposite gradients from white to black on my two different overlapping camera sources with alpha mask-filters (color channel with color set to #ffffffff). Did you encounter this and do you have any idea to solve it?
I didn't have that problem, but double check to make sure the gradients are completely overlapping. After that, make sure your camera sources haven't accidentally shifted 1 pixel up or down or something like that.
@@GamerZakh Thanks for the reply! I've tried mirroring my two gradients so that there should be a complete overlap but I'm still getting the black line so surely I'm messing something up with the gradients. You don't happen to have your two gradients laying around and wanting to share them?
Also, yeah, the cheap green film solution is horrific. I tried it for a week, then I went and bought a 1m22 x 2m44 plate of pressed wood (I think it's MDF) and half a liter of enthusiast grade greenscreen paint. Cost me maybe €50 and it works absolutely awesome, as a solid flat surface with good paint is miles ahead of any sort of hanging fabric, especially the plastic'y stuff.
I'm also struggling extremely. I can set up two halves, then I'm lost. Here's some extra information from the author, perhaps it helps you. It didn't help me :)
@GamerZakh: _You can use black and white images to control where things are visible in OBS. So you can make the black to white gradient image and set a filter for a source and use that gradient as a mask. In this example, have 2 instances of my camera running. One for the top half and one for the lower half, and they overlap, so together it just looks like one camera source. Then you can set different chroma key settings for the top half camera source and lower half camera source._
Yeah that's good if you can have a massive green screen in a big room. I have a 3 metre long green screen and my webcam is just about 1.5 metres away from it and it's already capturing the edges. Need a 5 metre long green screen and then maybe you can get 2-3 metres away from it, and that also means you need a large room to fit all that.
You can use black and white images to control where things are visible in OBS. So you can make the black to white gradient image and set a filter for a source and use that gradient as a mask. In this example, I have 2 instances of my camera running. One for the top half and one for the lower half, and they overlap, so together it just looks like one camera source. Then you can set different chroma key settings for the top half camera source and lower half camera source.
@@GamerZakh I suppose one needs to be familiar with editing software. I cannot figure it out. That mask thing wants to load something, I have no gradient image, and I wouldn't know what that mask even does. I did set up top and bottom, with different keys. That's better than nothing. Still, half your video eludes me, it seems. Thank you for your reply and attempt to help
@@notjustforme Yeah this isn't something to do if you're a beginner. You need to load the black and white gradients, which you need to make yourself in Photoshop or something like Gimp. If you're new to all this, this kind of thing really isn't that important, it's just a minor refinement. More important for you to be just streaming and making videos, the skills and intuition come with time and practice. I've been doing this for over a decade now and I studied multimedia design in uni, so all this stuff is my wheelhouse.
@@GamerZakh Heh. You are right, of course. I have a good setup now, using like 12 different color key filters with narrow settings. Beats nvidias background removal by far. Not cutting off my pony-tail and all. :) The hair flickering is a bit distracting... I'll figure it out eventually. You seem to be the only source for this advice though, I can not find this approach anywhere else on the net, at least. Thanks for the inspiration, I'll figure it out eventually, I'm sure.
@@notjustforme If you need more help and you want to keep trying, it'll be easier to explain on Discord. Can't share screenshots here and stuff, so it's hard to explain things with just text. I can even pass you my gradient files for you to try as well on Discord.
What do you mean? In the last 3 months I only have 2 videos that are of RTS games. Did you see Morrowind, Skyrim, Daggerfall, Redguard, Endless Legend, Humankind, Cyberpunk?
Basically I have 2 different chroma key settings. The chroma key is stronger on my hair and weaker on my body. That way I can control how the green screen works on my hair differently to my shirt.
@@GamerZakh I get that, but the chroma filter is applied to the cam feed that films you and the green screen right, so where do the gradient overlays come in?
I mean, I get that you're applying different filter settings to the top half and the bottom half, I'm just not sure how you're combining that with the black/white fading.
@@rijden-nu Ah the black and white is the mask, so I basically have 2 copies of my camera there, the top half and the bottom half, each with their own chroma key settings. To make sure there isn't a hard line between them, I fade them out into each other so it's a soft edge and you can't tell where the top half chroma key starts and ends.
@@GamerZakh ah you're feeding your camera into obs twice but with a different mask for each, and each also has chroma filter? Imma try that out tomorrow! Thanks. Hope my i5 10400 and Nvidia 1060 can manage all that and the office stuff that I'm also feeding in :o thanks for your super fast feedback and game on! :)
Yeah with the screen coming apart and my tiny room I can only do so much. Ideally I would be another meter away from the screen at least and put lights behind me but out of frame.
@@GamerZakh Yeah, I tend to forget that in a lot of countries renting a place is actually the norm, not owning it. That sucks. In that case good luck with replacing it with something of a bit better quality this time :)
Haha it's just professionalism. If you're gonna do video content you should strive to slowly but constantly increase quality for the enjoyment of people who watch.
I do tech videos once in a while and people seem to like them, so here's another janky tip for you. What do you think of it?
Is that paper or felt? I'm surprised you're not using a high thread count sheet for that. You can steam or iron sheets to get the fold creases out of them for a better look. My brother made a projection screen out of a bed sheet, and after 8 years, it still looks good. (His projector died, but it died while he was cleaning it. So there is that.)
I'm going to his house Saturday to play D&D. I can grab a shot of it if you'd like.
Oh, on the Tee-Shirt front:
1. Craft stores (like Michaels) sells tee-shirts that are color consistent and do not have logos. Granted, their shirts are for silk screening, image transfers (like the iron on patches), and painting. But they'll also work as a cost effective, "I need something that isn't going to give chromakey a headache" shirt.
2. Tom Scott picked one specific color of shirt (red) and has ordered them in bulk to save some money. He did this primarily to disguise the fact that shoots for his videos often take days (and not even contiguous days) to film. Thus, the red tee-shirt became part of the "Tom Scott" brand. His friend Matt Gray wears blue tee-shirts on camera for the same reason. (Here's the Matt and Tom video where Tom talks about it: czcams.com/video/p4SoSBo_nsI/video.html&feature=emb_logo&ab_channel=MattandTom )
@Dyanosis Haha it's no trouble for me, doing this stuff is something I enjoy, I come from a design background and making things work with what you've got is an art form I have fun with. Green screens aren't expensive nowadays, they used to cost hundreds but they finally got the cheap ones in a few years ago. I just had this for the past few years and didn't realise it was getting weaker. Holds together if you don't touch it lol. Moving to another country is on the tables but living costs would go up a ton and it has to be beneficial for the Mrs' career. Her career's flexible but not as much as mine is.
@@jackielinde7568 My first green screen was like that but it was kind of the wrong colour, so I bought this cheap one in the right colour a few years ago and just been using that out of convenience. This next one is fabric again, should be here tomorrow.
@@GamerZakh 1. Good to hear a new one is coming soon.
2. We all been there. I bought a 96 Honda Accord for $2k USD only intending to drive it for two years, until I could get a down payment on something better. Drove that thing to death and got my current ride in 2014... Yikes.
I don't know what I am going to do with this information as I don't stream.
But this was fun to watch
i'd never have thought i'd watch ten minutes of a guy telling how to render his hair properly 😅
Haha I don't know who wants to watch this stuff but half the time I make random topic videos it blows up, so I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@@GamerZakh oh well if i wanted to stream on twitch or record myself it would be pretty useful advice 👍
So you are the new guy on youtube! 🤣
"Guys, after years of streaming I have realized something.. my tshirt is not the same as my hair"
-Gamerzakh
Even though I'll have no use for this information it's still fun to just see how all the behind the scenes stuff works for you!
I do remote teaching and this is by far the best trick I’ve seen on green screen. Life here is simply adorable ..
GamerZakh: "Every time I made the green screen look good for my hair, it made my body look weird."
Me: "You mean your body doesn't normally look weird?"
Remember, you're a gamer. You're one of us. Your supposed to look weird. :P
Love the jank, making it work with what you've got is the way to go.
I admire your enthusiasm for doing this. I like to watch your channel because of it, I don't even know where did I pick you up (edit: I think it was your game lists), nor did I engage with your content that much, but ever since I subbed you I never actually decided NOT to watch your content if it popped up. You're a smart and interesting guy with a genuine desire to make quality things and show interesting stuff, and you deserve an audience. This is just as interesting as well, please keep it up.
Thank you so much for the kind words! I really appreciate it.
Weird seeing the behind the scenes where your greenscreen is falling apart considering how professional your videos look!
It's all that design training, it really teaches you to get the job done no matter what you got.
@@GamerZakh Good skill to have!
Absolute genius solution. I know you say you're working with a green screen and camera that could be better, but I see the hair/body problem all the time. I have very fine hair and it looks terrible on green screen, so I've been using the hat solution, but it's not perfect because my hair sticks out from under my hat giving me a blur around the ears. I didn't even realize it was possible to have split settings. I'll have to give it a try.
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I swear green cloth would just work, I need to try it out.
My first green screen was just a cheap cloth from a budget fabric store, got it for 1USD a metre. Mistake was I got a warm green, so with slightly orange lights it was almost yellow on camera. Best to get a blue-green type colour.
I, too, like your hair :-)
Also, I always find it interesting to see or know a bit about the behind the scenes. It can be alot of work, so why not show it sometimes.
Thanks, great tip to think about.
Thanks for the "behind the scenes" video. I wondered how you avoid having hair like Giogio A. Tsoukalos. I originally thought it was alien technology at work.
I expected anything, but that your green screen would disintegrate?! :DD Otherwise, very cool video! More like that 👍
I wish you showed how you create the settings in OBS instead of just talking about them but good info all the same.
Use a light from behind, that will also take off some of the green through your glasses and green sheen on your face, experiment with coloured gels
Yeah I'm currently trying to put a light behind me but because my green screen is suddenly short I can't have it behind and out of frame haha. Once I get a new screen in I should be able to do it.
OBS setting - key color spill reduction - adjust that , then the brightness and the the contrase
Sure, but hair is still not like shirt.
Can you give the step by step details of how you managed the FADE? I am still not sure how to replicate the fade you talked about.
Basically you make an image of a black to white gradient. What is white will be visible and what is black will be hidden. Then, create a filter for a source, the filter is Image Mask/Blend, then type is Alpha Mask (Color Channel) with the Path being the black to white gradient. Select the Color as #ffffff and the mask will be applied to the source you're adding the filter to.
Clever solution.
Ingenious! Nice.
Thanks!
Thank you for the information. Keep doing gaming videos.
Hi Janky, Absolute agree with Garrick's earlier comment...'Absolute Genius Solution'...In my ignorance could you give me more details on the split sources and graduated filter? I also have 'spikey' hair and it plays havoc with Chroma Keying.... Many Thanks
Yeah I can try help. Basically I just create two sources for my camera and I put different filters on each one. One uses a fade from top to bottom while the other uses a bottom to top fade, but with plenty of overlap so you're not disappearing in the middle.
@@GamerZakh My apologies Zakh, with my original salutation Janky...Thank you for responding so quickly, I'll try it out tonight and see how I get on...👍
Good video man..
I want to do dance cover shoots. Can you make a video on the best cameras and a suggested setup pls..
In my experience the best camera is the best one you can comfortably afford lol. Phones nowadays can actually work really well, good shots are mostly about lighting.
Canon M50 is also good one too just got to get the right cables and software.
what are you using to block out the natural light? was that sound dampening foam? any other cheap ideas, I have a real lighting problem from my window at the moment! Anyway thanks for the video, very interesting! Thanks for the tips about the Sony camera as well.
That is acoustic foam, found an online seller who sold these big pieces for cheap and I needed it to stop the echo. I got one piece of foam against the nearest window but I don't do a lot of natural light control because I stream and record at night. Blackout curtains work great though, IKEA has some cheap ones.
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Hi GamerZakh, thanks for your video. It was useful. Where can I get backgrounds like the one with the fireplace? :)
The background I use is a scene from Morrowind and then I designed more stuff for it haha. I'm not sure where you can get decent backgrounds, I tend to make my own assets.
Awesome solution! Been trying to figure out how to get it to work but I'm ending up with a small black line where the two different image masks meet. I've got two opposite gradients from white to black on my two different overlapping camera sources with alpha mask-filters (color channel with color set to #ffffffff). Did you encounter this and do you have any idea to solve it?
I didn't have that problem, but double check to make sure the gradients are completely overlapping. After that, make sure your camera sources haven't accidentally shifted 1 pixel up or down or something like that.
@@GamerZakh Thanks for the reply! I've tried mirroring my two gradients so that there should be a complete overlap but I'm still getting the black line so surely I'm messing something up with the gradients. You don't happen to have your two gradients laying around and wanting to share them?
Looks like you could do some fun magic tricks this way ^^
Also, yeah, the cheap green film solution is horrific. I tried it for a week, then I went and bought a 1m22 x 2m44 plate of pressed wood (I think it's MDF) and half a liter of enthusiast grade greenscreen paint. Cost me maybe €50 and it works absolutely awesome, as a solid flat surface with good paint is miles ahead of any sort of hanging fabric, especially the plastic'y stuff.
I tried to build this after your instructions but I'm missing something. Can you explain in detail step by step how to configure this in obs?
I'm also struggling extremely. I can set up two halves, then I'm lost.
Here's some extra information from the author, perhaps it helps you. It didn't help me :)
@GamerZakh:
_You can use black and white images to control where things are visible in OBS. So you can make the black to white gradient image and set a filter for a source and use that gradient as a mask. In this example, have 2 instances of my camera running. One for the top half and one for the lower half, and they overlap, so together it just looks like one camera source. Then you can set different chroma key settings for the top half camera source and lower half camera source._
Your Audio is really good!
Thanks! Been tweaking it for years now.
@@GamerZakh worked well!
How did you put that fade
tip I heard was to be further away from the green screen
Yeah that's good if you can have a massive green screen in a big room. I have a 3 metre long green screen and my webcam is just about 1.5 metres away from it and it's already capturing the edges. Need a 5 metre long green screen and then maybe you can get 2-3 metres away from it, and that also means you need a large room to fit all that.
I have no idea what you did there. I'm trying to reproduce this in obs, but really, what did you do? The steps taken are not at all apparent.
You can use black and white images to control where things are visible in OBS. So you can make the black to white gradient image and set a filter for a source and use that gradient as a mask. In this example, I have 2 instances of my camera running. One for the top half and one for the lower half, and they overlap, so together it just looks like one camera source. Then you can set different chroma key settings for the top half camera source and lower half camera source.
@@GamerZakh I suppose one needs to be familiar with editing software. I cannot figure it out.
That mask thing wants to load something, I have no gradient image, and I wouldn't know what that mask even does.
I did set up top and bottom, with different keys. That's better than nothing. Still, half your video eludes me, it seems.
Thank you for your reply and attempt to help
@@notjustforme Yeah this isn't something to do if you're a beginner. You need to load the black and white gradients, which you need to make yourself in Photoshop or something like Gimp. If you're new to all this, this kind of thing really isn't that important, it's just a minor refinement. More important for you to be just streaming and making videos, the skills and intuition come with time and practice. I've been doing this for over a decade now and I studied multimedia design in uni, so all this stuff is my wheelhouse.
@@GamerZakh Heh. You are right, of course. I have a good setup now, using like 12 different color key filters with narrow settings. Beats nvidias background removal by far. Not cutting off my pony-tail and all. :)
The hair flickering is a bit distracting...
I'll figure it out eventually. You seem to be the only source for this advice though, I can not find this approach anywhere else on the net, at least.
Thanks for the inspiration, I'll figure it out eventually, I'm sure.
@@notjustforme If you need more help and you want to keep trying, it'll be easier to explain on Discord. Can't share screenshots here and stuff, so it's hard to explain things with just text. I can even pass you my gradient files for you to try as well on Discord.
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That's all cool, but why do you play only rts?
What do you mean? In the last 3 months I only have 2 videos that are of RTS games. Did you see Morrowind, Skyrim, Daggerfall, Redguard, Endless Legend, Humankind, Cyberpunk?
So I'm still not sure what you're actually doing with the two gradient images?
Basically I have 2 different chroma key settings. The chroma key is stronger on my hair and weaker on my body. That way I can control how the green screen works on my hair differently to my shirt.
@@GamerZakh I get that, but the chroma filter is applied to the cam feed that films you and the green screen right, so where do the gradient overlays come in?
I mean, I get that you're applying different filter settings to the top half and the bottom half, I'm just not sure how you're combining that with the black/white fading.
@@rijden-nu Ah the black and white is the mask, so I basically have 2 copies of my camera there, the top half and the bottom half, each with their own chroma key settings. To make sure there isn't a hard line between them, I fade them out into each other so it's a soft edge and you can't tell where the top half chroma key starts and ends.
@@GamerZakh ah you're feeding your camera into obs twice but with a different mask for each, and each also has chroma filter? Imma try that out tomorrow! Thanks. Hope my i5 10400 and Nvidia 1060 can manage all that and the office stuff that I'm also feeding in :o thanks for your super fast feedback and game on! :)
I still sees green hues on your skin tho.
Yeah with the screen coming apart and my tiny room I can only do so much. Ideally I would be another meter away from the screen at least and put lights behind me but out of frame.
How much do you need for a new green screen ^^ ?
They're pretty cheap now, it's mainly just a hassle changing it all. They used to cost hundreds but you can get them for 20-30USD now.
You could paint you wall green
Not if I'm renting and the landlord doesn't allow it
How about You just get a bucket of green paint for that wall ? :D
I would but I'm renting and the landlord is a bit particular haha
@@GamerZakh Yeah, I tend to forget that in a lot of countries renting a place is actually the norm, not owning it. That sucks. In that case good luck with replacing it with something of a bit better quality this time :)
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Haha it's just professionalism. If you're gonna do video content you should strive to slowly but constantly increase quality for the enjoyment of people who watch.
@@GamerZakh I'm stuck on mobile internet for the moment and let me tell you that I don't notice anything in 480p (I splurge on your videos) ;)
@@AxMi-24 I remember being stuck on mobile, that sucks, but I'm glad you're enjoying the videos!
be careful Zakh
that'sa deadly disease you're flaunting at
an intoxication of some sort
You could also just shave your head clean
If you're going that far, you can wear a hat instead lol
@@GamerZakh Absolute genius