Front Fork Binding on Dirtbike - Diag and Possible STIFF Suspension FIX

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  • čas přidán 2. 05. 2018
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  • @utdesertghost199
    @utdesertghost199 Před 6 lety +3

    Yes you should use SKF seals,
    I work for SKF here in salt lake in the industrial seals division making molds for similar seals for the last 27 years. I see the technology that goes into seal design and manufacturing. We make awesome products. My bike also came from the factory with SKF seals, I have over 70 hrs on them and have had no leaks, changed the fork oil but because they didn't leak I didn't replace them.
    Did the oil change in December and been riding since then with no problem. I will say that the motion pro fork tru is worth looking at too, as it help ensure the centerline distance between the forks top to bottom stay in alignment which reduces wear and friction on the bushings as well as provides equal loading on the oil seal lip.

  • @jeffloucks2120
    @jeffloucks2120 Před 6 lety +3

    Yup, not cheap but I'm going back to SKF. Huge difference. These forks are known to have stiction without those seals. I knew this and test for myself. Never again.

  • @464iggy
    @464iggy Před 2 lety

    FLYING LOW BROTHER !!! 🤣🤣

  • @mew1216
    @mew1216 Před rokem

    Did you check the torque on the pinch bolts for the lower triple clamp? If over torqued, these can cause a binding / stiction feel in the fork as well.

  • @oic1968
    @oic1968 Před 6 lety

    Wow that sucks, just a thought was there any change or damage to shim stacks or valving? What your describing is how the open cartridge 690 felt to me and othes before changing those parts.

  • @dylanjones678
    @dylanjones678 Před 6 lety

    Were the oil seals lubed before installation?

  • @Owner_69_
    @Owner_69_ Před rokem

    So there was a problem ? For me the same everything new(tube,seals,oil) on my f800 gs 2013, but stifness only when mounted on bike if removed looks more less good. Im think maybe stem head hooked

  • @bloodsea76
    @bloodsea76 Před 6 lety +1

    Different question: what tank seat combo you using?

  • @stefanie_m466
    @stefanie_m466 Před rokem

    the clamps in Nm? no ft lbs Nm mistake? is the 17Nm at the top and 12Nm bottom clamp? i have an SMC 2010 and have the same system, now the rebound on one is super fast while the other one is super slow. i believe your compression valve is on the bottom, open is about 25 clicks. the oil must be 5w or less. if I set the compression example to 10 clicks then it gets stuck like yours. i use ktm grease between the seal and seal. T14034 grease

  • @Wide000
    @Wide000 Před 6 lety

    One of my bike is similar to yours (KTM exc 250 05) and I must be extremely carefull when I uninstall/reinstall the front wheel. It sometimes takes many tries before I get it right and no binding occur, which is not the case on my Honda. But the worst thing abont these forks is that I must release the air out of them about 20 times per ride, if not more. Of course I have ''quick release'' buttons but it is very annoying having to push these while riding before every difficult sections to be sure the forks will move properly...

  • @sl2dude
    @sl2dude Před 6 lety +2

    Bent Fork Tubes?

  • @GoldensniperGaming
    @GoldensniperGaming Před 6 lety

    SKF seals is whats on my bike and thats what most if not all suspension services use.

  • @MrDuhfactor
    @MrDuhfactor Před 6 lety

    Excellent diagnosis brother... well done...

  • @liamapplegath9134
    @liamapplegath9134 Před 4 lety

    What year is your bike. Do you know where to find specs for 2010 ktm xc 300 front forks. No matter what I do they feel stiff.

    • @vegasromaniac
      @vegasromaniac  Před 4 lety +1

      I ended up selling the bike and getting a yamaha, never has suspension issues since than.. Haha, best I can come up with the KTM was new springs 2x rates softer and less oil.. But still was old and not that good.. So I sold it

  • @mxforever6445
    @mxforever6445 Před 6 lety

    Maybe it will get better with more riding time on them?

  • @Syntax152
    @Syntax152 Před 4 lety

    I have the same issue on my drz 400, running on ari seals. Did skf solve your issue ?

    • @vegasromaniac
      @vegasromaniac  Před 4 lety +2

      Nope, bought a yamaha, never had that problem again

    • @cragenconstruction5518
      @cragenconstruction5518 Před 4 lety

      @@vegasromaniac Reaaalllly, my '98 wr400 has this exact issue. Exact same pressures and everything. I just...turned my comp damp 20clicks out and fk it ima send it.

    • @AlanClapp2
      @AlanClapp2 Před 4 lety

      @@vegasromaniac my buddy just baught a wr250r same issue, just rebuilt. Arizona bike so lots of sand. Here we go lol

  • @Payder
    @Payder Před 3 lety

    Same for me when using All Balls seals. Stiction is horrible. Ordered skf now and gonna throw them in. Should have done that in the first place.
    The internet is full of the same bad experience with All Balls seals. Next time I do my research before ordering parts!

    • @vegasromaniac
      @vegasromaniac  Před 3 lety

      Skf do have good material

    • @Jrod_FPV
      @Jrod_FPV Před 2 lety

      did SKF remove the stiction ?

    • @Payder
      @Payder Před rokem

      @@Jrod_FPV yes!

    • @Jrod_FPV
      @Jrod_FPV Před rokem

      I have found that on my 2003 KTM 450EXC there is an aluminum spacer tube inside the fork. Only a couple years had this. I read online forum somewhere this is the cause of stiction so I removed mine and that did the trick!

  • @richardpanek9705
    @richardpanek9705 Před 6 lety +1

    Did anyone else notice he said he might sell it? What kind of bike are you thinking about now ?

  • @FrostyFingers
    @FrostyFingers Před 6 lety

    @vegasRoManiac : I think I solved my problem. The support rings have become concave and not flat anymore. Check yours!

    • @vegasromaniac
      @vegasromaniac  Před 6 lety

      Those bend when you take the forks apart, never when you assemble them, so if you put a straight one in, it's gonna stay straight till you take it appart again. My problem is the seals to snug, I'm gonna try different brand

    • @FrostyFingers
      @FrostyFingers Před 6 lety

      Vegas RoManiac if you assemble bushing/support disk/seal does it move freely then? Cause mine gets stuck after some use, when i take them of they are just as tight as yours but when i remove the lock ring they magically moves again.

  • @FrostyFingers
    @FrostyFingers Před 6 lety

    Got the exact same problem! I’m using skf! Wp 48. And no solution yet

    • @2wheels_and_2stroke
      @2wheels_and_2stroke Před 2 lety

      Did you ever find a solution as I'm currently having the same issue on WP explore forks

    • @FrostyFingers
      @FrostyFingers Před 2 lety

      @@2wheels_and_2stroke yes got new on warranty

  • @bernielomax6160
    @bernielomax6160 Před 5 lety

    All balls take a while to break in, the pivot works ones are better. One thing you can do is some nice light grease in between the seals.

  • @massimobroccoli9854
    @massimobroccoli9854 Před 6 lety

    Axle bent ?

  • @rihs335
    @rihs335 Před 6 lety

    I think to stiff spring.

  • @oxbi24
    @oxbi24 Před 6 lety

    oil 5wt ?? try silicon lube on seals and back to 10 wt ,10wt vs 5wt smoother on seals heavy on damping , 5 wtopposite . If works on dh bikes works on moto :)

  • @Climberbiz
    @Climberbiz Před 6 lety +2

    I've noticed your suspension is too stiff. Your always bouncing around.