When I saw the selfies I thought they looked fine, but then he's not that much older than me so when I got to that part of the video I was laughing at myself more than anything.
I actually liked those selfies. I thought they were pretty cute. But then again, I have only taken one selfie in my entire life. Back in primary school. For art class. So my words don’t really hold a lot of weight
Going ham just means "going overboard" to me, it doesn't have a positive or negative slant to me. Maybe slightly positive cause it's generally used for going really hard partying or something. But only barely.
I'm a white guy in rural NE GA. My mom, who is at risk of borderline GOP policy views, said she "hates Trump because he acts like a toddler screaming when he doesn't get his way" and "Him banning abortion is the last straw for me and other women who needed them" is truly tough. She lives in MTG's district and is exposed to the crap every day. If she sees it, others do.
I’m also a white guy from GA (suburbs) and while almost everyone I interact with much is an evangelical Christian and pro-life, lots of them see Trump as worthy of ridicule. I find it difficult to empathize with people support Trump, but I think a lot of people support him extremely reluctantly because Republicans feel like the only option for pro-lifers.
I'm a white dude in Portland who spent my formative preteens in South Central Los Angeles. I understand she's the lesser of two evils and I appreciate you.
White woman here. Thank you so much for bringing up how a lot of white women are gonna feel about getting a black woman before a white woman. Because a lotta w women around me have been REAAAL quiet ever since Kamala got endorsement. I think this election is really gonna test a lot of w women’s fragility and ability to not be the center of attention.
I never thought Hilary would be a winnable candidate sheerly because of the aggressive and effective hate campaign the HOP have successfully waged against her.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's not gonna matter. It's gonna be women against patriarchy. The conservative women will do what they're gonna do, but white leftists are begging for Kamala to win. Even though she gave up on Medicare4All in the beginning. Hell, maybe she'll pick it up again.
@@SE-gs6gd a lot of liberal white women tend to think just because we are women, we are then a minority. And they act like white women struggles are just as bad as the struggle of POC. I’m saying it’ll be interesting to see how some white women fold in their beliefs because some of them genuinely believe they are a lower class person because of their gender without considering their white privilege. Bill Burr has a whole skit explaining it in a comedic tone.
No matter how you identify the best place to put your energy these days is in UNIONIZING. Don’t expect Harris or any establishment politician to save you. The only way we get our rights is buy fighting for them in unity and solidarity with other people
Yea but that’s never gonna happen, most people would have a hard enough time trying to get blood family members to even “unionize” to establish anything let alone random people trying to step to the government… would be nice but at this point everyone is waiting for you to start it up me included
@@PureTouchJohnson you need to have hope to even be able to get started in a way that could be successful. Two video game studio’s unionized recently. It’s long overdue and I was so frustrated it took so long but the momentum is here and if you can catch that wave you need to start paddling.
I’m not crazy about Harris, but she said she was going to impose term limits on the Supreme Court and that’s really all I can ask for at this point beyond just not being Donnie T
@@Cnichal conversely, a bunch of idiots believed Donald Trump would have Mexico pay for the border wall. Instead, taxpayers had to help foot that $19 billion bill. Yet people really thought a foreign country would be responsible for a domestic work project. Both sides are being sold a false bill of goods.
I'm not super clear on how US politics works, but if voters put pressure on their representatives to support a move like SC term limits, would that make it more likely to be achieved?
@meala23 No. Money speaks here and bribes... I mean campaign donations and lobbying by billionaires and corporate interest speaks louder than the general population ever could.
@@meala23 Yes. But you have to make it worth the while of the people in power (money, influence, etc) or else it won't go anywhere. Look at any passing law, and it usually makes someone richer in some way.
I am honestly not too worried about white women voting trump. Dobbs changed the game and Trump-Vance is the most maiden-frightening ticket American politics has ever seen
I've sadly learned never to overestimate the ability of yt women to vote against their own interests. Remember that they caught Trump admitting to being a literal SAer on tape and he still got the majority of the yt women vote. He said *before* the election that he would get rid of Roe. White supremacy convinces its women that it's there to protect them, so rarely if ever do right-leaning yt ladies truly believe that they'll come for them next, even when they *do* start coming for them!
wish it would happen on my MAGA dad’s side, but the women there have been telling me since i was little that women should never be president so 😭 idk how large of a block MAGA women are gonna switch
@@-Teague- he was genuinely not ready to campaign against harris and it's hilarious to see all that enthusiasm was just for sparring with biden he's losing the sauce
Hey wait a minute. I thought it was obvious that based on race alone among only men, black men are the most politically liberal group of men in the usa. Just because white people just recently learned about some black manosphere dudes and the black manosphere and see some alt-right black grifters doesn't mean that black men overall are turning Republican at a fast pace. Everyone knows that white men are the most politically conservative group of men in the usa. The white and black manospheres don't have as much influence or power in white and black communities respectively as Asian and SWANA mansopheres do in Asian and SWANA communities respectively. And we need to start differentiating between politically conservative/liberal and socially conservative/liberal because while white people finally seeing the rise of manospheres of color (that woc and enbies of color have been seeing for years) as an issue is a thing, it doesn't always translate to usa politics and elections 100% due to several factors at play. Plenty of socially liberal white folks are politically conservative while plenty of socially conservative POC are politically liberal.
Dude, I'm not even Black and I remember the night Obama in '08 won just being floored, running outside into the streets of Upper Manhattan and coming face to face with the biggest spontaneous crowd of ecstatic Black New Yorkers I'd ever seen, cheering and dancing and screaming like the war was over. I felt that in my chest. 16 years later I'm a socialist who clowns on him and calls him a war criminal but co-signing "the youths don't get that you had to be there."
@@phillipanselmo8540But keep voting, cause "democracy is at stake!" dontchuknow. The fact that these politicians and officials don't fold to demands after let's you know there never was any sort of democracy, every.
Y'all are missing the point here. The truth is the Presidency has never had a much power as it claims to have, and for good reasons. The main branch of government that has been broken ( especially in Obama's 2nd term and in the last 4 year's) is actually Congress!! Whose actual job it is to pass laws, especially when the Supreme Court fails to provide any checks and balances to the capitalist 1% ultra-rich.
Gen z will never understand being told as a child there will never be a black president by your own family. As a people before Obama we had VERY VERY little hope of seeing that in our lifetime. I cried too. I was 16 and going to a mostly white school where racist bullying was prevalent. Even when Obama first announced he was running these kids around me started targeting the black kids over it even tho we couldn't vote. When he won I felt real hope. Sorry but Gen Z is spoiled compared to the generations before us. Anddd... that's a good thing ... that's what we wanted. But they should be more appreciative of it.
Damn FD... thanks for showing the love. I know u actually read comments before you show them love because you don't love every comment. You have to be my favorite parasocial relationship. 😂
It's really hard to convey to someone who wasn't old enough to remember it just how much hope was actually in the air when he won in 2008. Between him winning 2008 followed by the passage of the ACA, it's the first time I legitimately felt like we had a shot at finally moving away from the Reagonomics and shifting the Overton window more towards the left than it had ever been. Yeah, a lot of that feeling was just getting caught up in the moment, plus we've seen that instead of shifting the window to the left it's taken an even harder lurch to the right from the Tea Party and now MAGA. But that optimism was something I don't know if we'll ever see again in my lifetime.
Gen Z and not even American here, I know what you mean but I legit remember still feeling like things are going to be better and full of hope when I saw on the news that Obama had become the president of USA.
14:20 I've got to admit, this is something I'm noticing a lot as a queer person, so many younger people who seem to take the rights we have now for granted. I remember a time when even just a rumour that someone was gay was enough to get them beaten up after school. I personally was beaten because someone had told SOMEONE ELSE, that I had said they were gay. Even this much was enough. It feels like a cruel ironic punch line, that those who benefit from the improvements made to society, can be so dismissive of the people who suffered through those abuses and still called them out, to get them to where they're at.
thats cause there is no "queer community" but rather we are being held hostage in the same cell. Our history as a people has been eroded by everything that erodes nonwhite noncishet histories so in the vacuum the permission for being queer and the kudos of such is given to a progressive attribute of the current status quo, even as that status quo tries to kill us still. This is not a failure of youth imo, this is a failure of the queer community to behave as such. Because aren't a community, we barely like eachother and the solidarity went out the wall the second the cisqueers got theirs. I live in one of the world's most "progressive" countries and I was not given an opportunity about the existence of trans people, my people, until I was 16. How am I supposed to believe we got here by the power of solidarity when the sentiment of gender existing couldn't make it over stonewall into the 2000s without dying as a message, as a movement?
I graduated four years ago, and it was not even an option to come out if you were nonbinary. You would be made fun of, despite having all the dysphoria to prove it's not for attention. Most of the trans and lgbt people like myself stuck together. In just that time society has accomplished a lot and I don't want it all to go down the drain again with project 2025 and other hate-fueled craziness.
I understand what you're saying and it's totally fair to be upset about but consider the "kids these days" and the mainstream politics they've been exposed to. From maga and qanon to Democrats doing absolutely nothing. I mean, Harris is a little better but Trump vs Biden ACTUALLY felt like a joke. I'm 35, I'm gonna vote but I very much have the feeling that it doesn't matter. At this point, voting dem is only to vote against Rep. The 2 party system is so screwed up and dumb, of course it's hard to take seriously.
There is one major difference between Obama's candidacy and Kamala's, conservatives. When Obama was running conservatives were still desperate to pretend they were not racist. I saw Obama as a gracious centerist and thought that he would be like throwing a bone to conservatives. I thought they could unify around him as a show of racial tolerance. I couldn't have been more wrong but Obama did not give up on that dream for some time. Kamala has no choice in this election to pretend that she's a magnanimous unifier. Instead she needs to utterly crush MAGA politically. Which she seems to already be poised to do. As a leftist, I think it's better to stay hopeful with Kamala. The fact that she is even the candidate shows a willingness to meet the voters on their terms or at least halfway.
What? Conservatives were still openly racist. You don’t remember the soundbites of BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA being played over and over? Or McCain saying he was one of the good ones?
I don't even thing it's just that Obama wasn't able to unify them. it's that they are far far more right than they were even then. and of course no openly racist homophobic and anti trans. the right's entire platform is ran on anti identity politics and by the end of their run in this phase they will either fall out and ostricize too many people or they'll win an election and the only thing that gets done revovles around identity politics and christian nationalism and nothing will actually be done to better our country.
@@mike04574 not if you were listening to Black scholars. Malcolm X and MLK told us about white people. People are shocked because they don't listen to Black people. Even now, people are acting like everyone is just realizing these things instead of just showing every interview done with Muhammad Ali, James Baldwin, Huey P. Newton, Fred Hampton, Kwame Ture, Dr John Hendrik Clarke... heck even Noel Cholmsky and my favourite, Howard Zinn
As you mentioned, conservatives used to be much more subtle. They wasted no time starting in with racist and sexist attacks on Harris. Trump took the mask off. Hopefully her messaging spotlights this and what strange people Trump and his camp are.
The know it all part, while hyperbole, is very valid to me lol I was initially an ameriboo, then started reading speeches given during the late 1700s, the actual legislation that was brought up and discussed during the pre civil war and civil war periods, numbers of what parts of our economy and segments of population benefited from this unprecedented level of “productivity,” etc all lead to me becoming a leftist lol not woke points, not being out of pocket, not catering, just being a neurodivergent teen that realized informing myself politically didn’t require college just good faith and open minded reading
@@JStack Agreed, and as someone that is also neurodivergent, I did the exact same thing. The more you learn about America, the further left you tend to become. There's definitely a reason for that.
I'm with you. Also, when you take a minority position that is contrary to the status quo you likely are an academic in some capacity by that point based on A. The work that likely led you to adopt the position and B. The survival mechanism that is the ability to explain yourself and justify your position to those comfortable with the status quo and hostile to your position. We don't operate on feelings and traditional "just because" thinking. We have identified the flaws of the system no matter if we bicker over the solutions.
Me too, and it's something I always want to change lol. I really enjoy leftists content creators, I think I've learned more from F.D. than I ever have elsewhere. And I'll always be here. But I don't enjoy leftists discords or forum spaces. I find it constricting and there are far too many people who jump down your throat even though you agree with 95% of what they say. Not that it's any better on the other end mind you, probably worse, but I prefer a space where I can riff, politely and respectfully, without getting "Ummm actually"-ed. Those people deserve a voice too, it's just not for me.
So many people out here that seem to forget you can hold your nose and vote but organize and put in real work elsewhere at the same time. You dont gotta choose between the two thats just silly
That requires too much effort for most... Easier to spend one day voting then sit on the sidelines and point the finger and find scape goats for real issues
That's the blessing of voting being essentially meaningless. You can make the "harm reduction play," but just about anything you do as personal activism is going to have more positive impact than your share of the negative impact of a cop war crimes enthusiast. You should vote, precisely because it makes no difference.
@@dirtcarver9990 even just spending quality time with family and friends I think makes a huge difference in people lives. Yet we often neglect those core values
As an Afro-Latino man, I find it increasingly difficult to communicate with other Latinos about politics with patience and empathy. Being steeped into far left political thoughts and history leaves me with a shallow tolerance for confusing conservative Latinos who bring up talking points about migrants, knowing full well their parents were migrants. I haven’t found a way to build that bridge of understanding without coming to frustration at the way a lot of moderate and centrist Latinos minds work. Anyone feel the same?
Genuine quesiton. Have you talked to Latinos about migration as a foreign policy issue with central/southern america, as opposed to a border issue? Does that yield any success or progress? I'm not Latino, but I like to think about the drug problems in the US and the "migrant problem" (quotes b/c eyeroll) in that way. More big picture, less local, etc.
The "Latinos" opposed to migration are fine if it's their version of Latinos. The immigrants they're opposed to are from Central and South America, who they don't considered "white."
@@heylookitsnana it doesn't work. They believe that south american countries are responsible for their condition and so will demand for migrants to stay in their countries and overthrow the governments there
I live with a conservative Latino. It's weird for someone like me who is a centrist and the son of Asian immigrants. I want to ask him about why he would support a political group and ideology that has a history of needlessly demonizing Latino immigrants, but he's one of "those types" of conservatives, so discussing anything that requires serious thought is generally a painful experience. I share OP's frustration with this group.
I'm Latino (Chicano) and I've experienced this too. I think it is the proximity to whiteness that Latinos crave where they are willing to put down migrants in a form of irony. I was raised by my Mexican, immigrant parents who more or less told me to keep my head down and not make too much noise which might be why some Latinos go to the Republican party in a way to try and conform...Also a lot of Latinos use facebook or whatsapp and misinformation spreads like wildfire, I know my dad was apprehensive about getting a covid vaccine because facebook told him it causes cancer.
“Know-at-all killjoy assholes” is true. Being well versed in anti capitalism politics is great, but I don’t think people realize how strong American propaganda is. When the closest thing most black people will get to anti establishment politics is being a hotep because of how over exposed it is, it’s something we have to keep in mind.
Also some leftists...are just like that. They almost don't need capitalism to doomonger because the sad buzz of being the smartest, most radical sounding person in the room is more appealing to them. Remember, political views don't make the quality of the person, the quality of the person should form their political views
As a leftist, the biggest issue I see in most leftist commentary across the board (on social media in particular) is a failure in messaging. The messaging tends to be made in such a way that its difficult/annoying for the uninitiated to parse or make sense of, and the tendency to be doom and gloom with that messaging is definitely going to turn people off who aren't there yet. This isn't even going into the posts that sound like pure condemnation and belittling directed at those who aren't up to speed (which I understand why those posts are made, but we aren't doing ourselves any favors by sounding like assholes to those we are wishing to win over). In my mind, leftist messaging across the board needs to adopt the concept of "meeting people where they're at", which would go a long way in getting people to at least listen to and potentially consider what's being shared, and not automatically put non-leftist into defense mode, or feel like the conversation is depressing/guilt tripping. This would also lead to more potential community building and opportunities to educate, as JD mentioned in the video. There's also the issue where particular groups of leftists message in the verbiage of the books and other works that they consume for their political theory. How they expect the average person who has never read anything from Marx to Fanon to fully grasp what they are saying is ridiculous and unrealistic. There definitely is an air of intellectual smugness in much of this type of rhetoric, which needs to stop if we ever want to build a larger base, let alone live by the values and theory that we are preaching about. These messaging and attitude flaws also inhibit community building between leftists and non-leftists. Some of the more radical and hardline leftists need to get off their ideological high horses and learn to connect with those outside of their theory echo chambers, because if we don't do this, we will lose the community war, and end up in an even more dire situation.
I think some people who get into politics at a formative age think that people in social settings get annoyed and exasperated at "that guy" going off about politics because everyone there *must* be in disagreement with their politics. They don't consider it's mostly because "that guy" cannot read the room and is aggressively going off about their special interest, disrupting the mood and intent of the social setting. The same thing happens when one of my friends starts talking about boat motors like anyone gives a fk and it's obviously not cause everyone there has strong opinions about Chris Craft.
@@herrerabeast This tactic is so commonly thrown out there that nobody else knows the most prominent instance where this was implemented. You know where? Weimar Germany, when their Social Democratic Party compromised with the Freikorps, and look what happened next there. We must emphatically not meet the inert mass of decaying traditions where they are at, since this is specifically what needs to be changed! If compromise is chosen with them, will true change ever happen?
14:23 My core memory from the 2008 election is when it was called for Obama and I heard my mom (now in her 50s) start crying from the other room. I went to check on her and she was on her knees praying fervently for the his and his family's safety. I've never seen her react that way to anything before.
A core memory was sitting down with a black child in a classroom I was doing college work in and asking him if he was excited about Obama. He straight up told me that he'd either never become president or would, y'know, become another Kennedy situation. That really punched me in the gut, especially 'cause I knew this kid from the year before. He'd always been so smiley and sweet. I didn't want him to be depressed. It also just made me see how simplistic I'd been seeing the election.
I’m Kenyan/Congolese so trust me when I say the whole of sub Saharan Africa was in jubilation when Barrack won. My mom would even dress me up like Obama
aww that’s so sweet. i am american but this reminded me of how my friends mom told her that if obama won she could throw glitter everywhere 😂 ten years later they were still finding glitter all over the house
Bruh, I'm Canadian and I was a little kid at the time and I remember the excitement. I barely knew what was going on, I was just excited a black man accomplished something big and was on TV for something 'positive'. The black people around me were levitating for years over this.
Italian here, I was in middle school and remember vividly writing in an essay about how much I hoped that he will abolish capital punishment (my family have always been involved in human rights activism and we were all really hopefull about him) and how happy I was that he won. Plus commenting with my mom about how elegant and handsome he was/is...
I'm in the same boat. Every white woman friend I know that's Gen X and younger is happy to vote for Harris. But a lot of us have conservative mom's that are still make excuses for the GOP for religious reasons.
Oh man, it’s been rough. Either I am brainwashed, a baby republican that doesn’t know it yet, or a terrible person for challenging the religious views that have made the lives of women worse. It’s wild. My mother has a PhD in physics and she can’t handle stating her she/her pronouns. I don’t know what to do.
I got my boomer mother to join a livestream for her! I know everyone’s mother is starting from a different point, but I do think it’s worth talking to older white women who might be really alarmed by Dobbs and JD Vance.
I wonder if age is a factor. My mom (early 50s) is very clearly going to vote for Kamala. Fiancé and I (both early 30s, and white as glue) are also doing the same. My grandmother however… I cannot deal with her. I can hear contempt in her voice when we discuss my volunteering, where I teach English to refugees.
@@vokkera6995 I think it's Partly a factor, but my mom is evangelical of the most conspiratorial thinking kind, while my grandma has been generally liberal-voting and attended a mainline church all her life that is now LGBT affirming. Grandma is chill in ways that Mom totally isn't, so it's weird how older folks shake out sometimes.
Y'all if you intend to vote, make sure you double check that you are registered and if not to register ASAP. I got purged from the voter registry (after they already did some fucked up shit). Check that shit!!
Yikes this is what I was afraid of, imm gonna have my folks double check they registry too. Granted im from Dallas County that *typically* leans left/liberal, buts it’s Texas 😭
Thank you for bringing this to people's attention, this is a good PSA. You're doing the Lord's work out here. TurboVote seems like a decent resource to check on voter registration, you might want to do your own research on them.
Im just venting. Not really an attack on anyone. As a black person who has always been a paycheck away from poverty, works a janitorial job and my parents lost their home while I was a child, elections exhaust me because Im in a group that's consistently silenced. I want democrats to do better but regularly get told to hold my tongue and just vote blue. That doesn't mean much to many of us in my position when my life has unfortunately been the same no matter who is in office. Not me saying not to vote, I have always voted, but I'm so well past hearing too many in the black excellence crowd telling me to just vote for "the lesser of two evils" when evil is evil. The police have been the biggest issue in my life and now Im basically forced to vote for one because it feels many progressive Americans care more about normalcy than being uncomfortable and inconvenienced with change and uprooting systems. Im just so exhausted. Edit: Im starting to believe some of you read what you want because what is all this about not voting when I didn't say that? Cant believe I vent about not being heard just to see people talk about inaction that I explicitly said I avoid doing. Im done.
I don't know, I've never thought that voting Democrat would make life easier or change much. What I have thought is that letting America be a dictatorship just because I'm tired is something I cannot allow. I cannot personally live with doing nothing while the other side wants to celebrate hurting people just because of the color of their skin, or their non-binary gender. I really don't care much about myself, but seeing others in pain and knowing that I not only didn't do what I could to prevent it, but actively participated in it hurts me. This isn't to say some Democrats wouldn't do the same thing, but it is far less likely from a Democrat when looking at their Republican counterpart. I don't really even consider myself especially left leaning, which I'm sure is obvious, but America is SO far right that a moderate left person may as well be an extremist. The point is, everyone is tired. I don't think anyone really knew how tired they were until Trump, but giving up is hardly the answer. I honestly get not wanting to vote for the lesser of two evils because I felt the same for the longest time. Hell, the first time I actually felt like voting was Obama's first cycle. I was in my 30s for the record. Before that we had repulsive, but manageable presidents. Obama turned out to be more of the same. Then we got Trump and an attempted coup. As much as I hate the status quo I would hate living in a dictatorship more. Nobody in a dictatorship is actually happy, and if they say they are it's because the state is telling them to say they are happy. I don't know what the right answer is to get America to move the correct direction, but I know what it's NOT. The answer is not giving up because you are tired. Everyone is tired. Between working for a corporation that pretends to care about people while using every loophole to screw them over, and living in a country that does pretty much the same thing it's exhausting. Nothing ever got done by just letting the world happen around you though. This was not supposed to be this long originally, and part of that is that I really don't have time to analyze every part of my response. As such I may have a few non sequiturs throughout my post. What I really want to drive home is that I will probably never be happy on a personal level with a Presidential candidate, but that's fine because nobody will ever match my way of thinking exactly. To think differently is the height of hubris on my part. I don't even want that in the end, what I want is for people to be happy and feel safe, and unfortunately that means treading water until we can come up with a better way as a nation. I look at it like this, I will probably never live to see what I hope comes to pass, but if I give up I know it will never happen. We are in a very real fight for our identity as a nation and it won't take much for the other side to win.
@@HRDSalami654That wasnt about my personal happiness. I do vote and I explicitly said my reply wasnt a call not to vote. My point was people like me consistently get put on a back burner while we vote and hope things change and they'll get to it later and later never comes. You said you want people happy and safe and Im implying due to politics and those who enforce them, I am not safe and I am unhappy due to a lack of security. Take that as you will and feel as you please but don't confuse that with what I said.
Voting for harm reduction can be a useful reason to vote for certain candidates/party, even when one is discouraged by the the quality of the politicians offered by our two-party system. Also, while harm reduction doesn't seem like a very "exciting" cause, less harm in the world does everyone good and can be the difference between life and death for some of us.
I was on the fence about voting for Harris until Trump showed up at that black journalist panel and said that he wanted cops like the killers of George Floyd and Sonya Massey to get full immunity from prosecution while on the job. After that, I donated to her campaign.
It honestly hadn't occurred to me that any of my fellow white women would fail to vote for Harris because they want the first woman president to be white, but now that you've said it, knowing the history of White Feminism, that sounds both extremely stupid and horrifyingly plausible. Thanks for making me aware of this danger, I'll do what I can to try to make sure we're not horrifyingly stupid in November.
Please remind them about Project 2025. Those conservatives aren't just after banning abortion. They're coming for contraception, no fault divorce, family leave, etc. While I agree some of the rhetoric may be hyperbole, you see how underestimating Republicans turned out with Roe. I live in Texas, and they're already trying to arrest women from leaving the state for an abortion, when initially it was "we won't prosecute the mothers."
Nobody cares that she’s not white. I haven’t heard anybody male/female/black/white- nobody is saying anything about her race. I have no idea where he got that idea from.
As a cohort of Kamala generation, just a reminder woman we only were able to get a checking account in our own name in 1974! We are ready for a woman president but I am a little worried about her experience she will be facing a huge Israel and Ukrainian problem , she also needs to lay out her agenda right now she has the vibe but I don’t see substance. Signed independent voter not a Trump supporter she needs to earn my vote
@@angelikafieseler741 honestly, as daunting as those challenges are, I'd much rather have her dealing with that than Trump. The way he dealt with most world leaders, especially Putin and Netanyahu, was downright embarrassing. I'm all for her proving herself, but even just on what we know right now, compared to Trump or even Biden, she's the most qualified option we've got.
everything aside, as someone who is half black and half Pakistani I think it’s rather need to not just have a nonwhite biracial person, but the oddly specific black and south Asian pairing biracial person be in such a prominent role. Conversations about mixed people often ignore that not all mixed people are half white. so I hope this changes the conversation.
Bingo. Some people discuss mixed people as if "mixed" is a singular race itself, even though two different mixed people may not have the same racial backgrounds at all. Keanu Reeves and Melonie Fiona are both "mixed", and they are both not the same race at all. Keanu Reeves is neither black nor is he Indian. Fiona is neither white nor is she native Hawaiian. Divorcing mixed black people from their blackness and their African origin is something I'd never encourage.
Jesus, I have been arguing with people all day who can't seem to understand that Kamala didn't just suddenly "switch" from being Indian to Black, and that someone can, in fact, hold both identities at the same time.
@@victory7763 I took a couple college classes on this--and I don't mean this to talk over your opinion, but just to provide some added context on what academia means by treating mixed as a separate "thing"--it's less about treating all mixed people as the same, because of course someone who is half Black half Asian is going to have a very different experience than someone who is half white half Latino, but more acknowledging that there are similarities in identity struggle that a LOT of mixed people share across the board. It's often the case that neither parent can fully identify with the child's experience because each of them only has half the story. Additionally, social in-groups outside the home often do consolidate around cultural identities, but a mixed child might have difficulty fitting into BOTH groups that make up their identity. A mixed Black/white child could be immediately singled out as Black by their white peers, but might not be "Black enough" to fit in with their Black peers, for instance. It's been, like, 10 years since I took those classes, so I'm sure the conversation has evolved a lot since then, and I can't remember a ton of detail, but I thought it was an interesting consideration.
@Crazy_Diamond_75 would it shock you if I told you that the average African American isn't just one race? Or that race is a construct? Or that Latino is an ethnicity and not a race? Yet we see Latino treated as a race, we see that many African Americans aren't aware that they aren't "pure", and that race is treated as a biological consistency or as if it's classified the same way everywhere in the world when it isn't What you say about holding both identities is true, and that mean not being "part-time" of either. If The Rock goes to a traditional Samoan event, it's it's the fact that he's Samoan that allows his participation in those events. And when The Rock, because he is black too, he was created to the (fictional group) Nation of Domination. And mind you, no one Samoan is telling The Rock "you ain't Samoan", but you do have SOME black people who want to challenge him on being black, even though he's iterated this multiple times. Let's be very aware that being anti-black is a practice by default, even by other black due to indoctrination. We've learned very well to divide ourselves for any reason, and someone having a non-black parent is a low hanging fruit scenario. I don't know what's so hard about some understanding context and what someone is mixed WITH being relevant (not talking about you specifically). The people calling Kamala racial slurs that are derogatory towards black people aren't doing it because of her Indian side, it's obviously because of her black side. For example, they are calling her "loud". That is a stereotype for BW not Indian women. They are targeting her for being BLACK, not for her being Indian. And you see this pattern repeat with other multiracial black individuals, and its always been this way. Being mixed is not new either. Malcom X was mixed, MLK was technically mixed (Irish grandparent), Fredrick Douglas was mixed, Nat Turner is speculated to be the son of his mother's master, Thurgood Marshall was likely mixed as well, the list goes on. This phenomenon of treating being mixed as new thing, particularly for African Americans is ahistorical (meaning disregarding precedence and pretending it's new). At the end of the day, racial identity is mostly determined by the individual. People's experiences and most importantly their upbringing tend to shape how they identify (this includes monoracial people). The "tragic mu__tto" nonsense tends to come from those who didn't have a firm stance on how they identify in the first place. Not a single soul in the world was even going to tell my father he is not black and have him believe it, no matter if he doesn't "look black" to them (whatever that means). I'll put it like this: I'm waaaaaay quicker to call Colin Kaepernick my brother than Clarence Thomas, who clearly can't stand himself. I'm waaaaay quicker to call Alicia Keys my sister than Candace Owens. Again, it's about the individual; we can't choose for other people how they wish to identify, even if some come off delusional like the woman who got arrested and the cop identified her as black and she was so offended that he called her black because she's "mixed" (again it's about upbringing too). She was more offended that someone called her black than the fact that she was getting arrested. She was treated like any other black person, but if she was "mixed" with literally anything other than black, the entire interaction would be potentially different... Meaning she is still receiving the black experience. Now obviously there's more than one black experience, we are no monolith, but we do have relevant over arching experiences unique to us that mixed or not you can possibly experience. So yes, my two things are "what's your heritage?" And "how do you identify?". We don't determine how other people identify, I simply identify with those who are not offended or running from identifying with me
@@victory7763 Thanks for your great, detailed reply. Yeah, definitely, it's largely going to be up to the individual how they identify and who they have community with, nowadays. But I think that's part of the point, right? Anti-miscegenation laws in the past prevented people from holding a "mixed" identity until fairly recently, and what mattered a lot more back then was whatever category society forced you into than whatever identity you would have constructed had you had the opportunity. And I totally agree it would be ahistorical to apply that identifier to someone _in the past,_ because racialization from back then doesn't line up 1:1 with the way it works now--but these systems have changed over time.
Abortion rights, term limits, and stability. I won't make the same mistake I did in 2016 by tossing my vote to someone who was never going to win. I'll be voting for Harris.
@@ThePlKLE As a third-party candidate in the US presidential election, she is by definition someone who is never going to win. And no, none of the other third-party candidates are going to win, or even get any electoral votes, either. Your choices are voting for the Democrat, voting for the Republican, or sitting on your hands and doing nothing.
Same, I didn’t vote for a president in 2016(did vote down ballot). I live in MI in a swing country. Will never make that mistake again. I will say back then we didn’t think Trump would win. Polls are the reason I have trust issues lol…
White dude here. I remember holding my 3 week old son, watching the tv back in Nov 2008 and thinking "Wow, he did it? Maybe America isn't as racist as I thought!" I voted for him, but I didn't actually think he stood a chance. But I was wrong, and it was a good day. I had hope that my son would grow up in a better world. I remember thinking Hilary would win easily, not 90% east, but still. I didn't care about her, but I voted for her, because the other option was...really? I was wrong. I wasn't so sure Biden would get in, but I voted for him anyway, because milquetoast was better than 4 more years of all of that nonsense. I didn't think he would step down, though. I was wrong. I thought Harris was the WORST choice, because America has shown me just how racist AND sexist it still is, I thought she'd be DOA. I was wrong. I'm trying real hard not to get my hopes up here, but c'mon people, can we just do this one more time? Please? I'd really like to have that better world as a possibility, even if I never personally see it. *grumbles about making me vote for a cop*
The thing I tell myself is the worst of society tends to also be the loudest. They're, sadly, the most passionate at times for their beliefs as they're fueled by fear, anger, and hatred, and the only way they'll feel secure and happy is when they achieve control over those they're fearful of. I know this because I grew up in a very racist town and heard it from many of them. Good people are out there and they're everywhere, and every generation we get better, and the hate knows that they're slowly dying out so they get more desperate.
@@jackholman5008 He broke a lot of peoples' brains, mostly. But yeah, he was pretty status quo. Young me just thought that a black guy with a middle name like that stood no chance, not even a little. I'm from the South, I've heard the things people say (a lot), so maybe that was just this area? Maybe most of America actually is different or getting there? Oh wait, nope, here they all come. But that one day was nice.
Young white woman here! I will be voting for Harris this November and I feel like we will be a solid voting block for her as we don’t want a tyrant who wants to take away our bodily autonomy in office. Lol
14:26 When Obama got voted in, all the way across the otherside of the world where I live, the young Maori guy from my work, at the time, got pretty emotional. Since despite having three women Prime Misters, we still haven't had a Maori or other non-white PM. So yeah Obama was a pretty big deal for a lot of folks around the world.
When he got voted in so many white Australians were emotional about it. I used to clean houses and found that hope poster in multiple white people's homes. Even to this day if you say anything negative about Obama people think it's sacrelige
It really depends on the situation. A step mother has no actual required responsibilities to the kid. But if they choose to try to be a mother figure sure. My step mom is a better mother than my biological mother would ever be.
As a white woman in the south me and all of my white female colleagues and friends are all rallying behind Kamala. My group and I do not represent the SAHMs and conservative majority that seemingly exists here. But we are here and we are voting and we are speaking about the importance of this in our day to day lives.
I think it's hysterical. As a 70+ woman with lots of health issues; when I hear healthy whippersnappers complain about feeling old, it just strikes me as somewhere between ridiculous and kind of wistful. At my age, every day above ground is a good day. And while I miss my youth and all the fun and energy that came with it, I do not miss the inexperience, naivety and general ignorance from those days. Much of that ignorance was due to lack of time for contemplation and education, because a busy life, work, kids. But these days, due to that age and disability, I now have a useful amount of time for developing a deeper understanding of the world in which we all live. BTW, I do appreciate sites like this one to help me develop that understanding.
Harris seems to be distancing herself from Joe's position on Israel and she can actually say abortion is healthcare and mean it. Honestly, that's enough to change me from a maybe to a yes, even if it's not nearly enough in general.
Please look again that she has done nothing about the genocide in Gaza. She denounced the protestors and "supports Israel's right to defend itself". That is supporting the genocide in Gaza. A vote for her is a vote for genocide
She makes it seem like she distance herself from it but in reality she still stays on the 'Israel has the right to defends itself' and doesn't plan on stopping the arm embargo She also has connections to Zionism from her childhood
@@supermio64 It's highly unlikely but I don't think that people should just accept it and throw in the towel. The last more than 9 months show that we can change a lot
A lot of self-describe leftists treat these like mutually exclusive ideas, but I think we need to get comfortable with holding both "electorialism will not create radical change" and "engaging in electorialism is a vital form of harm reduction" in our minds. I'm not a fan of Harris, but I feel sometimes we get so caught up in trying to justify our collective Cassandra Complex, that we lose sight of pragmatism. Although once she wins, the gloves are coming off. As an aside, I'm skeptical about the white woman analysis. The influence of racism can't be ignored, but also it can't be understated how significant the overturning of Roe v Wade was politically.
Yeah no “harm reduction” is not a strategy but a pacification of something that is just corrupt. You’re not saving anything by “voting for a lesser evil, you’re just creating another pathway for that evil to exist. Don’t vote for less evil, vote for something different.
@@ChrisBrown-zq8ch Something meaningfully different will not come from voting. The electoral process has been too thoroughly subject to elite capture. If you want something actually different, it must be built from the bottom, through a parallel power structure.
@@DJATOMICA95 Third Party’s, Create your own party, if your a democrat but hates how the party is being ran. Condition Your Vote, Support Mutual Aid, Support activist who you have political alignment with, Start Ballot initiatives, anything but “I have to vote for something I truly don’t like, because the other side will do something I don’t like. Anything!
@@ChrisBrown-zq8ch I think youtube ate my other comment, maybe because I was a bit too critical of electoralism. That said, while third parties have their use in pressuring the main two, elite capture is at such a state where you aren't going to get meaningful change through that route. We need to build parallel power structures from the bottom up to get radical change. I agree with your "support mutual aid" part, but I think "mutual aid *organizations*" is the key. Through bottom-up organization we build the future, electorialism is what we do in the meantime.
The white women I know (myself included) are PUMPED to vote for Kamala!! I would have begrudgingly voted for Biden but I am truly excited to vote for the first time since Bernie!
@@Purplefoxsoul it was only really liberal white women upset about Roe V Wade being overturned, not conservative women. That being overturned didnt cause any real political shift or opposition when it happened, I doubt itll make that much of a difference now.
I remember my HS live streamed the inauguration in the theater, and all the history classes went and watched. I brought my lunch so I could stay longer.
100% this. I remember 08, fresh out of college thinking "this is happening. we can do this. we can make this world a better place." I'm fucking old and tired now, and I miss being hopeful.
Listen, just as you can't run for president if you're under the age of 35, you shouldn't be able to run if you're over the age of 65. IMAGINE how we could have avoided so many unfocused childish fights in the last 8 years. I am happily waiting for that smack to the reset button! Kamala NEEDS to be president to end this madness from both sides. Trump/Biden is just nails on a chalkboard to my ears. Time to refocus on the issues at hand and NOT on what side wins!
As an Australian, it's crazy to hear people say they don't trust that white women will vote for Kamala. Even after all this time it's still mind boggling that anyone from any demographic would vote for more of Trump. Hopefully I'm not being overly optimistic in thinking that she will 100% win this!
It’s a reality though. Suburban white women are a huge voting block in America. I think there’s less married white women and it will make a huge difference this election.
In a sane political landscape, Trump would never have had a chance in the first place. Putin would have been tossed out on his ear years ago. Boris Johnson would be manning a garbage truck and Britain would still be part of the E.U. Fascism in general wouldn't be having a resurgence. But we are not in a sane political landscape, so it's kind of hard to be certain about anything right now. And remember, Trump wasn't the cause of all this, he's merely a symptom of what right-wing positions in the U.S. have been sowing for decades.
That kill joy shit is why I don’t politics w/ anyone… I bring everybody down… tell my friends all the time, boycotting shit ain’t fun… I haven’t had Chic Fil A in 10+ years and I’m not even 🏳️🌈.
Do you like Popeyes? And real talk, thanks for putting the sentiment out there that boycotts aren't fun/easy- it's shallow but it's true. I forget if I started buying Tostito's again before or after Frito Lay supposedly hashed out their last big worker strike, but the grotesque corn-salt-crunch triangles just work. Not Lay's though, Wise or Utz or whatever off-brand potato chips are universally better.
Same with Nestlé and their parent company Unilever. They own so much shit it's not even funny anymore. Nearly all ice cream near me is from Langnese aka Unilever. The summer heat feels extra vicious when you refuse to eat 90% of the ice pops available
Leftists present themselves as a very unlikeable bunch. I say this as a person with mostly progressive views. The optics are usually moral grandstanding, making other folks feel like they are bigots of some sort, various purity tests of who is left enough ideologically. The left devours and alienates the moderate all too often. It’s not a winning strategy from what I see.
Me a white woman, was watching this mostly just to have something to think about while I groggily woke up after a 12 hour bus ride. When you said "White women!" it snapped me out of my fugue state as I realized I was being addressed.
I agree, have a lot of doomer lefty friends but I think biden had a coin flip and kamala has a really great chance. Everyone who wouldn't vote for Kamala for a stupid reason already prob would've gone trump and even a few of those are prob gonna support her as a cop against a felon (bad reason to vote for her but I'm not gonna pretend its not compelling to a lot of folks). Will be happy to have you in Canada! As much as the brunch crowd annoys me idk let them get some momentum and hype and Kamalas already better than I ever hoped we'd get out of this election. Also I am lowkey scared to see my fellow white ladies who've been hiding there racism power level come out of the wood work on this one. Theres gonna be the right wingers which tbh were going trump or staying home anyways ofc but I also kindof expect like a really weird stubborn #stillhill crowd to be super bitter that there fav evil girlboss wouldn't be the first woman president.
Was recently on a flight out of Houston sat next to a older black man who mentioned he'd graduated with a PHD from a HBCU. While showing me pictures of himself in a casual environment with both Biden and Kamala he basically said the same thing FD is. They're about to go ham.
My mom is in AKA and my late Nana was as well. My mother has made it abundantly clear that any criticism of the Harris campaign will be seen as personal criticism. That Divine Nine shit is crazy.
I voted for Obama both times and STILL almost got fired from my 1st gig for talking "negatively" about Obeezy. I simply asked out loud, "how the ninja got a Nobel Peace Prize?!" After it was announced. My coworkers starred holes in me 😂 My boss called me into the office and basically put a lot of the older black folks happiness in perspective and was like, "Let them have this."
The award is named after someone who created dynamite..who saw that it was a fucked up invention, creating death(not what it was intended for) made a "Peace" award for anyone...and they literally gave it to anyone 🤦🏾♂️
You’re speaking my language with that Black Excellence Brunch crowd!! When I was a student at the University of Mississippi, the leaders of our Black Student Union were campaigning for…and I’m not kidding… MIKE BLOOMBERG. And when I pushed back they called me out as a Trump supporter when BERNIE SANDERS was in the race 🤦🏾♀️ I was so ashamed 😅😂 Even as a grad student and employee of the University now, I still have no clue how they came to that conclusion…now they are the black faces in high places that will FOR SURE do harm
Wait, Mike Bloomberg(As in the former Mayor of NYC 2008-2013)? Hahahaha, I hope they know about all the messed up policies Bloomberg implemented before he retired. Glad you called it out for what it is
@@Isaac-h1b7e I called them out and of course they did. These are prominent activists on campus. One has gone on to get a law degree and work in politics 🤦🏾♀️ They said “He’s apologized.” And I said how can you apologize for STOP AND FRISK????? Arguably the most racist policy since the crime bill!!
Its so important to realize that these are legitimately "early thoughts" on kamala. I know we have an instant response culture but every single one of those response videos was based on nothing. We only JUST NOW have information and can form an opinion. Thank you for waiting.
“Republicans about to have Candace Owens come out like Stone Cold Steve Austin with a steel chair”…😂 F.D. knows just how to contextualize the Republican strategy better than anyone else lol
Voting for Kamala when I was going to stay home about Joe not because I expect different from Kamala Harris but because my mother is a big Hillary Clinton stan and I keep imagining how much it will hurt Hillary's ego for someone else to become the first female president.
Ashamed to say… i voted against Obama first go-round. I grew up white trailer trash, and we didn’t trust change. But his first term changed things for me just like he promised. It exposed all the xenophobia, racism, religious fanaticism, and ignorance around me, things i excused away that i couldn’t deny anymore. It was a massive awakening for me, and i did cry when i voted for his reelection. I think more for myself, a “shedding of scales from my eyes” as it were, and to allow myself to feel that joy you felt, if four years later
At the risk of sounding like an oldhead, I'm gonna say it: That Obama high will NEVER be understood by Gen Z. I remember when Jesse Jackson (long time, outspoken Obama hater) even cried after he had his famous hot mic moment. The sad part is, when I finally realized that Jesse was right in the first place.
I wish I believed that the criticism of Biden's handling of the Gaza war had any bearing on him stepping down. He stepped down when the donors lost trust he could win and I doubt Kamala will change the Middle East policies at all although we might see a slight change in rhetoric to appease the critics. Personally I am just happy that we are no longer dependent on Biden to keep Trump out of another WH term, I don't really believe in "it has to get worse to get better" when it comes to people's lives.
Yeah that was the only part of the video I found laughable. Americans don't give a shit about Gaza - it maybe contributed -0.01% to Joe's unpopularity.
@@CheesecakeMilitia Total popularity, sure. But there are sizeable muslim constituencies in Michigan. It may not be enough to affect the national vote, but it's enough to swing a battleground state.
@@proy3 muslim and young. I think people dont understand how unpopular this is. Almost all the young people i know on the left are against what israel is doing, and the young vote was somewhat impactful in the midterms, so they might actually be listening.
@@CheesecakeMilitiathe American people absolutely care about Gaza. Both parties are against sending weapons to Israel and supper a ceasefire. Check the polls. American politicians don’t.
15:37 I remember Anita Sarkeesian getting memed for saying "everything's racist, everything's sexist, everything's homophobic, and you have to point it all out to people!" But it really is like that. Nobody wants to be a killjoy, but how else are we supposed to make progress?
"Doomerism is cringe." Say it louder for the leftists in the back! Honestly as a leftist (I'm more of a Social Democrat) if Trump weren't the opponent, I'd be more wary to vote for Kamala. But, unfortunately for me, I don't have the privilege and financial security to live under another (and possibly worse) Trump administration.
for how much longer do you think you can continue riding the "lesser evil" election strategy while the lives of most people keep getting actively worse before everyone tells you to go shove it
I still lived in Chicago when Obama won and was at his victory speech. I cried then too and I will never live that down after telling my leftist friends. Damn...
I live in the Bay Area, so my vote doesn't matter much. However, I grew up during her time as a prosecutor. I was a street kid and got my first weed charge at 16. I saw firsthand how messed up our justice system is. Seeing the party brag about her being a prosecutor reopened some wounds for me. I don't feel right about how Harris treated us, it was a difficult time for me. Whenever someone mentions her, they face strong resistance. It's frustrating to see false information being spread to make her look good, especially when you know from personal experience that it's not true.
In certain areas. The trump trucks and convoys in my area say different for where I am. I couldn’t have imagine something like that in my town years ago.
I don’t care for Kamala personally but Trump wants to throw out the constitution, do away with elections and literally turn this country into a dictatorship. Get out and vote people, the choice is clear.. I wish it were someone other than Kamala but she’s got my vote.
@@SE-gs6gd oh look it's Obtuse Oscar again. Clearly they're talking about having a personal preference and not a personal attachment. You really go out of your way to intentionally misinterpret people to try and be snarky, huh?
I gotta vote for her. My family lives in a red state (I escaped to a blue state) and my sisters, their daughters, and my mother can no longer get an abortion after 6 weeks. It's terrible
You've got a choice between two drivers: One of them drives the car too slow and maybe isn't going to all the same places you want. The other wants to ram the car into a brick wall. That's why we're voting for Kamela.
I do not remember crashing into a brick wall last time, I and most people I know had it alot better than now. So, this fear mongering did not work last time, its not working now, especially now since there is no precedent to go off. Both sides can be polarizing but I refuse to be a proponent of the people that think its just for a biological man to enter females athletic space and other dormatories; and puts immigrants over its own citizens for political brownie points/potential votes.
This is coming from the perspective of someone whose socmed has been flooded with evacuation campaigns right next to Harris funding campaigns, but hearing that $80m was raised In A Day for this while people struggle to make $20k-$100k to get their families to safety just....hurts. People are begging for even just a few bucks and these campaigns are being funded by people trying to give what little they have to them, but $80m is raised in a day. Just like that. It's hard enough as is to get traction and attention on evac campaigns, but worse with fundraisers for aid to Sudan or Congo - but $80m in a day. Wish that energy was used to help people in lower tax brackets and those in the Global South too, but here we are.
Yea the whole thing makes me sick honestly bc not enough attention is paid to the fact that based on how she has been talking she will 100% continue to send bombs to a country that the ICJ has already declared to be doing a genocide. And minimizing genocide to say people who care enough to vote third party / not vote at all are “one issue voters” is so evil it makes me shudder. I live in a deep deep blue state anyway so my vote literally doesn’t matter. We could be voting for the first president to be tried in The Hague, but then the US is so powerful and corrupt that there’s no legal recourse against our leaders inside the country or out.
I watched him win with my grandfather, who actually remembers using colored only water fountains. YES I cried. And there was nothing "cringe" about it.
14:27 Omg!!! I was a 16 year old white girl and I cried too!!! It was so historically significant!!! As a liberal white teen I definitely thought everything was going to be okay after he was inaugurated 😢
I’m black but was 16 then too. I literally felt the exact same way. I felt so hopeful especially seeing all the white ppl shown cheering him on and chanting USA and crying. I was pleasantly surprised by all the support he got from non black folks. Then we took a nose dive 8 years later
With how jaded I’ve been of political leaders nothing really surprises me anymore, but unfortunately, I’m still in a position where I have to vote against DT. Because at this point, it was always about anyone other than him.
I'm a white guy who went to school in DC during 2008, I'm from New England, and it was my first time living among black people. I'm a leftist, then and now. I voted Obama, and on Election Night, I went down to the student center where our dining halls were. The Downstairs one had been reserved by the College Republicans, and as I walked by they were all sad watching McCain's speech. I went upstairs to the main dining hall, and all the liberal white students and adult black cafeteria workers, were singing and dancing in a conga line. We was going off. But the feeling of jubilation and change really has never been matched in my life, nor has the feeling of solidarity. Rich white college kids and the working class black employees were unified in that moment. If you weren't around for it, I swear it was a moment.
I was in Seattle at the time, and in Capitol Hill, everyone and I mean EVERYONE was in the streets celebrating. It was such a mixture of people from all walks of life. I remember drag queens on top of street signs leading everyone in the National Anthem and everyone was singing along. I remember a Black guy with hair a lot like FD's being so happy he asked me for a hug. I got easily laid that night. 🤣
Leftist, white male ally here, and my thinking on the Democratic Party, and all its apparent problems, is that it can be dealt with LATER, after we defeat Trump, and let the gears of the legal system finally grind him to dust. Keep pressure on Harris, and work towards something better further down the line. Gotta get these centrists, at the very least, back into the center.
this is completely delusional. the us has been sliding to right for the last 40 years. the whole "deal with it later" is why there's always a crisis. if it isn't bush it's trump, if it isn't trump it's the next thing. You are responding to fear based politics, where the entire program is that the other side's hope is well founded so you better fucking vote to prevent disaster. You ever spend even a second thinking about why this is the case?
Yep, progress under Trump would be unfathomably more difficult to non-existent. Even if I don't align with Kamala on everything she has my vote this election 100%.
They said the same thing about Biden. Vote for the lesser of two evils and push him left after he beats Trump. Four years on, we've got a genocide on in Palestine, a steady stream of arms feeding the proxy war in Ukraine, Western powers escalating towards a war with China, and an utter failure of a COVID pandemic policy, caving in to the demands of big capital. If he can't be pushed left, then he's no harm reduction candidate, and the same goes for Harris as long as she aims to perpetuate imperialist foreign policy.
Ay, gen X, HBC/U grad here & I was crying with you bruh. Also i was one of those folk holding my breath when he & Michelle got out of the limo at his inauguration.
"im old.. y'all made fun of all my selfies.. y'all don't love me'😭😭😭😭😭the love always there unc 💯
When I saw the selfies I thought they looked fine, but then he's not that much older than me so when I got to that part of the video I was laughing at myself more than anything.
I was like “damn unc now I feel bad, don’t say that, you look good”
Hey man, I thought the selfies were great 😂
I laughed out loud! I am also getting old.
I actually liked those selfies. I thought they were pretty cute. But then again, I have only taken one selfie in my entire life. Back in primary school. For art class. So my words don’t really hold a lot of weight
Two old white men arguing over golf in the official Presidential debate was definitely a low point in American politics so far in my lifetime.
Glad I'm not the only one who thought that
I think having an argument about who hates Palestinians more was worse, tbh
So, so glad that I didn’t watch the debate every time it comes up.
God forbid people have jokes once in a while.
@@TheMysteryDriver The last 8 years of the US Presidency has been a joke. Can we have a little break?
Crash out is negative. Going ham is positive.
"Crashing ham" is clearly the most powerful union of the two.
was looking for this
@@jbradleymusic crashing ham sounds like an unfortunate euphemism
I believe “go crazy” is where we are now.
Going ham just means "going overboard" to me, it doesn't have a positive or negative slant to me. Maybe slightly positive cause it's generally used for going really hard partying or something. But only barely.
I'm a white guy in rural NE GA. My mom, who is at risk of borderline GOP policy views, said she "hates Trump because he acts like a toddler screaming when he doesn't get his way" and "Him banning abortion is the last straw for me and other women who needed them" is truly tough. She lives in MTG's district and is exposed to the crap every day. If she sees it, others do.
Hey, we’re from the same neck of the woods! MTG makes me so ashamed of my hometown 🙃
I’m also a white guy from GA (suburbs) and while almost everyone I interact with much is an evangelical Christian and pro-life, lots of them see Trump as worthy of ridicule. I find it difficult to empathize with people support Trump, but I think a lot of people support him extremely reluctantly because Republicans feel like the only option for pro-lifers.
He never said he's banning abortion. Yall gotta stop watching CNN.
I'm a white dude in Portland who spent my formative preteens in South Central Los Angeles. I understand she's the lesser of two evils and I appreciate you.
it was banned under biden though?
"Going ham" will never die so long as I draw breath
You and me both
Thisssss
Or "hamming it up."
Not a native speaker, but I love the expression. Always thought it was "go ham on sth", though
I'm in GenZ and I still say "Going ham"
The Black Excellence Brunch Crowd should be "The Status Fro"
LOL okay this one wins
OMG this is genius. FD: change your nomenclature immediately.
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+1 excellent internet comment
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White woman here. Thank you so much for bringing up how a lot of white women are gonna feel about getting a black woman before a white woman. Because a lotta w women around me have been REAAAL quiet ever since Kamala got endorsement. I think this election is really gonna test a lot of w women’s fragility and ability to not be the center of attention.
I never thought Hilary would be a winnable candidate sheerly because of the aggressive and effective hate campaign the HOP have successfully waged against her.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's not gonna matter. It's gonna be women against patriarchy. The conservative women will do what they're gonna do, but white leftists are begging for Kamala to win. Even though she gave up on Medicare4All in the beginning. Hell, maybe she'll pick it up again.
Mmmmm Mmmmm! Now that is my concern!
Women are never the center of attention. Not sure what you mean
@@SE-gs6gd a lot of liberal white women tend to think just because we are women, we are then a minority. And they act like white women struggles are just as bad as the struggle of POC. I’m saying it’ll be interesting to see how some white women fold in their beliefs because some of them genuinely believe they are a lower class person because of their gender without considering their white privilege. Bill Burr has a whole skit explaining it in a comedic tone.
No matter how you identify the best place to put your energy these days is in UNIONIZING. Don’t expect Harris or any establishment politician to save you. The only way we get our rights is buy fighting for them in unity and solidarity with other people
I agree. This country has instilled an anti-union rhetoric in its fabric the last century, and it causes people to attack the wrong people.
Yea but that’s never gonna happen, most people would have a hard enough time trying to get blood family members to even “unionize” to establish anything let alone random people trying to step to the government… would be nice but at this point everyone is waiting for you to start it up me included
@@PureTouchJohnson Except it is happening, the starbucks and auto workers unions have been doing great work for their workers recently
yesss connect in person with ur neighbors!!!!!!
@@PureTouchJohnson you need to have hope to even be able to get started in a way that could be successful. Two video game studio’s unionized recently. It’s long overdue and I was so frustrated it took so long but the momentum is here and if you can catch that wave you need to start paddling.
I’m not crazy about Harris, but she said she was going to impose term limits on the Supreme Court and that’s really all I can ask for at this point beyond just not being Donnie T
They say they are going to do a lot of things, and don't. If you believe this, I have a bridge to sell you in NY 😂
@@Cnichal conversely, a bunch of idiots believed Donald Trump would have Mexico pay for the border wall. Instead, taxpayers had to help foot that $19 billion bill. Yet people really thought a foreign country would be responsible for a domestic work project. Both sides are being sold a false bill of goods.
I'm not super clear on how US politics works, but if voters put pressure on their representatives to support a move like SC term limits, would that make it more likely to be achieved?
@meala23 No. Money speaks here and bribes... I mean campaign donations and lobbying by billionaires and corporate interest speaks louder than the general population ever could.
@@meala23 Yes. But you have to make it worth the while of the people in power (money, influence, etc) or else it won't go anywhere. Look at any passing law, and it usually makes someone richer in some way.
I am honestly not too worried about white women voting trump. Dobbs changed the game and Trump-Vance is the most maiden-frightening ticket American politics has ever seen
"the most maiden-frightening ticket" is an amazing phrase.
Vance keeps doubling down and saying horrendous shit about childless women. That's not gonna bode well for them.
I feel like Kamala's base in the 2020 primary was largely comprised of very well educated white women so I'm feeling optimistic too.
I've sadly learned never to overestimate the ability of yt women to vote against their own interests. Remember that they caught Trump admitting to being a literal SAer on tape and he still got the majority of the yt women vote. He said *before* the election that he would get rid of Roe. White supremacy convinces its women that it's there to protect them, so rarely if ever do right-leaning yt ladies truly believe that they'll come for them next, even when they *do* start coming for them!
@@feliciascorner9795 for some statement about cat ladies he apologised on air TO THE CATS!
I've been hearing that Kamala has been attracting MAGA women who are getting tired of their parties relentless misogyny.
Mhmm she’s getting a lot of love in Florida and that is a maga state
I’m deep in the conservative circuit (not a conservative myself). I haven’t heard that. At least not enough to really mention.
apparently Nikki Haley's PAC announced support for Kamala which is wild
wish it would happen on my MAGA dad’s side, but the women there have been telling me since i was little that women should never be president so 😭 idk how large of a block MAGA women are gonna switch
Women don't want to vote for a man with dozens of sexual assault allegations who has been found liable for rape? Wow! Who would have guessed?
12:45 “only goofies would not see kamala as black” aged like fine wine
Seriously 😂 It's like Trump felt the need to prove him right
@@-Teague- he was genuinely not ready to campaign against harris and it's hilarious to see
all that enthusiasm was just for sparring with biden he's losing the sauce
Look at meee goofy as hell 🫶😂
Show me one picture with her black family
@@walterrobeson1198Google Her father and the first image that comes up is her with him as a child. What kind of dumbass question is that lmao
“Black men are the most liberal voting bloc of men in America by a wide margin.”
Even as a Leftist, I want this on a T-shirt.
We gotta show out lol
This isn't true at all. Black WOMEN are the most liberal voting block
Hey wait a minute. I thought it was obvious that based on race alone among only men, black men are the most politically liberal group of men in the usa. Just because white people just recently learned about some black manosphere dudes and the black manosphere and see some alt-right black grifters doesn't mean that black men overall are turning Republican at a fast pace. Everyone knows that white men are the most politically conservative group of men in the usa. The white and black manospheres don't have as much influence or power in white and black communities respectively as Asian and SWANA mansopheres do in Asian and SWANA communities respectively. And we need to start differentiating between politically conservative/liberal and socially conservative/liberal because while white people finally seeing the rise of manospheres of color (that woc and enbies of color have been seeing for years) as an issue is a thing, it doesn't always translate to usa politics and elections 100% due to several factors at play. Plenty of socially liberal white folks are politically conservative while plenty of socially conservative POC are politically liberal.
*voting bloc
in case anybody actually does this
And your ridiculous
Dude, I'm not even Black and I remember the night Obama in '08 won just being floored, running outside into the streets of Upper Manhattan and coming face to face with the biggest spontaneous crowd of ecstatic Black New Yorkers I'd ever seen, cheering and dancing and screaming like the war was over. I felt that in my chest.
16 years later I'm a socialist who clowns on him and calls him a war criminal but co-signing "the youths don't get that you had to be there."
A strange point in history that was both a HUGE step forward all while moving us nowhere at all.
it's almost as if it doesn't matter what politicians are in power, it's the power structure that leads to bad outcomes 🤔@samhutchison9582
@@phillipanselmo8540But keep voting, cause "democracy is at stake!" dontchuknow. The fact that these politicians and officials don't fold to demands after let's you know there never was any sort of democracy, every.
Have you seen the boondocks episode lol
Y'all are missing the point here. The truth is the Presidency has never had a much power as it claims to have, and for good reasons. The main branch of government that has been broken ( especially in Obama's 2nd term and in the last 4 year's) is actually Congress!! Whose actual job it is to pass laws, especially when the Supreme Court fails to provide any checks and balances to the capitalist 1% ultra-rich.
Gen z will never understand being told as a child there will never be a black president by your own family. As a people before Obama we had VERY VERY little hope of seeing that in our lifetime. I cried too. I was 16 and going to a mostly white school where racist bullying was prevalent. Even when Obama first announced he was running these kids around me started targeting the black kids over it even tho we couldn't vote. When he won I felt real hope. Sorry but Gen Z is spoiled compared to the generations before us. Anddd... that's a good thing ... that's what we wanted. But they should be more appreciative of it.
Damn FD... thanks for showing the love. I know u actually read comments before you show them love because you don't love every comment.
You have to be my favorite parasocial relationship. 😂
It's really hard to convey to someone who wasn't old enough to remember it just how much hope was actually in the air when he won in 2008. Between him winning 2008 followed by the passage of the ACA, it's the first time I legitimately felt like we had a shot at finally moving away from the Reagonomics and shifting the Overton window more towards the left than it had ever been.
Yeah, a lot of that feeling was just getting caught up in the moment, plus we've seen that instead of shifting the window to the left it's taken an even harder lurch to the right from the Tea Party and now MAGA. But that optimism was something I don't know if we'll ever see again in my lifetime.
Gen Z and not even American here, I know what you mean but I legit remember still feeling like things are going to be better and full of hope when I saw on the news that Obama had become the president of USA.
Am I the only person in my 20s who was watching the presidential election with their family? I cried too. Lmao... But alright.
Yall need to stop calling Gen Z spoiled. Its getting old and annoying
14:20 I've got to admit, this is something I'm noticing a lot as a queer person, so many younger people who seem to take the rights we have now for granted. I remember a time when even just a rumour that someone was gay was enough to get them beaten up after school. I personally was beaten because someone had told SOMEONE ELSE, that I had said they were gay. Even this much was enough.
It feels like a cruel ironic punch line, that those who benefit from the improvements made to society, can be so dismissive of the people who suffered through those abuses and still called them out, to get them to where they're at.
thats cause there is no "queer community" but rather we are being held hostage in the same cell. Our history as a people has been eroded by everything that erodes nonwhite noncishet histories so in the vacuum the permission for being queer and the kudos of such is given to a progressive attribute of the current status quo, even as that status quo tries to kill us still. This is not a failure of youth imo, this is a failure of the queer community to behave as such. Because aren't a community, we barely like eachother and the solidarity went out the wall the second the cisqueers got theirs. I live in one of the world's most "progressive" countries and I was not given an opportunity about the existence of trans people, my people, until I was 16. How am I supposed to believe we got here by the power of solidarity when the sentiment of gender existing couldn't make it over stonewall into the 2000s without dying as a message, as a movement?
If the young can take it for granted, it is a testament that your bravery truly did lead to a changed world.
I graduated four years ago, and it was not even an option to come out if you were nonbinary. You would be made fun of, despite having all the dysphoria to prove it's not for attention. Most of the trans and lgbt people like myself stuck together. In just that time society has accomplished a lot and I don't want it all to go down the drain again with project 2025 and other hate-fueled craziness.
I understand what you're saying and it's totally fair to be upset about but consider the "kids these days" and the mainstream politics they've been exposed to. From maga and qanon to Democrats doing absolutely nothing. I mean, Harris is a little better but Trump vs Biden ACTUALLY felt like a joke. I'm 35, I'm gonna vote but I very much have the feeling that it doesn't matter. At this point, voting dem is only to vote against Rep. The 2 party system is so screwed up and dumb, of course it's hard to take seriously.
Hope everyone is doing good and staying safe. Sending support and hearts ❤❤
There is one major difference between Obama's candidacy and Kamala's, conservatives. When Obama was running conservatives were still desperate to pretend they were not racist. I saw Obama as a gracious centerist and thought that he would be like throwing a bone to conservatives. I thought they could unify around him as a show of racial tolerance.
I couldn't have been more wrong but Obama did not give up on that dream for some time.
Kamala has no choice in this election to pretend that she's a magnanimous unifier.
Instead she needs to utterly crush MAGA politically. Which she seems to already be poised to do.
As a leftist, I think it's better to stay hopeful with Kamala. The fact that she is even the candidate shows a willingness to meet the voters on their terms or at least halfway.
the change of conservatives between 2009 and 2024 is crazy
What? Conservatives were still openly racist. You don’t remember the soundbites of BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA being played over and over? Or McCain saying he was one of the good ones?
I don't even thing it's just that Obama wasn't able to unify them. it's that they are far far more right than they were even then. and of course no openly racist homophobic and anti trans. the right's entire platform is ran on anti identity politics and by the end of their run in this phase they will either fall out and ostricize too many people or they'll win an election and the only thing that gets done revovles around identity politics and christian nationalism and nothing will actually be done to better our country.
@@mike04574 not if you were listening to Black scholars. Malcolm X and MLK told us about white people. People are shocked because they don't listen to Black people. Even now, people are acting like everyone is just realizing these things instead of just showing every interview done with Muhammad Ali, James Baldwin, Huey P. Newton, Fred Hampton, Kwame Ture, Dr John Hendrik Clarke... heck even Noel Cholmsky and my favourite, Howard Zinn
As you mentioned, conservatives used to be much more subtle. They wasted no time starting in with racist and sexist attacks on Harris. Trump took the mask off. Hopefully her messaging spotlights this and what strange people Trump and his camp are.
15:43 "Know it all, kill joy, assholes"
I feel seen.
The know it all part, while hyperbole, is very valid to me lol I was initially an ameriboo, then started reading speeches given during the late 1700s, the actual legislation that was brought up and discussed during the pre civil war and civil war periods, numbers of what parts of our economy and segments of population benefited from this unprecedented level of “productivity,” etc all lead to me becoming a leftist lol not woke points, not being out of pocket, not catering, just being a neurodivergent teen that realized informing myself politically didn’t require college just good faith and open minded reading
It's me, I'm the killjoy in the family, even when the people in the discussion already agree with me.
@@JStack Agreed, and as someone that is also neurodivergent, I did the exact same thing. The more you learn about America, the further left you tend to become. There's definitely a reason for that.
I'm with you. Also, when you take a minority position that is contrary to the status quo you likely are an academic in some capacity by that point based on A. The work that likely led you to adopt the position and B. The survival mechanism that is the ability to explain yourself and justify your position to those comfortable with the status quo and hostile to your position. We don't operate on feelings and traditional "just because" thinking. We have identified the flaws of the system no matter if we bicker over the solutions.
Me too, and it's something I always want to change lol. I really enjoy leftists content creators, I think I've learned more from F.D. than I ever have elsewhere. And I'll always be here. But I don't enjoy leftists discords or forum spaces. I find it constricting and there are far too many people who jump down your throat even though you agree with 95% of what they say. Not that it's any better on the other end mind you, probably worse, but I prefer a space where I can riff, politely and respectfully, without getting "Ummm actually"-ed. Those people deserve a voice too, it's just not for me.
The Dr. Umar cut in when talking to white women had me cackling at work 😂
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So many people out here that seem to forget you can hold your nose and vote but organize and put in real work elsewhere at the same time. You dont gotta choose between the two thats just silly
That requires too much effort for most... Easier to spend one day voting then sit on the sidelines and point the finger and find scape goats for real issues
That's the blessing of voting being essentially meaningless. You can make the "harm reduction play," but just about anything you do as personal activism is going to have more positive impact than your share of the negative impact of a cop war crimes enthusiast. You should vote, precisely because it makes no difference.
Vote for third parties and help them grow instead of throwing in your ballot to support genocide
I'm an anarchist who argues that exact point. Voting is not nearly democratic enough, but you should still vote.
@@dirtcarver9990 even just spending quality time with family and friends I think makes a huge difference in people lives. Yet we often neglect those core values
As an Afro-Latino man, I find it increasingly difficult to communicate with other Latinos about politics with patience and empathy. Being steeped into far left political thoughts and history leaves me with a shallow tolerance for confusing conservative Latinos who bring up talking points about migrants, knowing full well their parents were migrants. I haven’t found a way to build that bridge of understanding without coming to frustration at the way a lot of moderate and centrist Latinos minds work. Anyone feel the same?
Genuine quesiton. Have you talked to Latinos about migration as a foreign policy issue with central/southern america, as opposed to a border issue? Does that yield any success or progress? I'm not Latino, but I like to think about the drug problems in the US and the "migrant problem" (quotes b/c eyeroll) in that way. More big picture, less local, etc.
The "Latinos" opposed to migration are fine if it's their version of Latinos. The immigrants they're opposed to are from Central and South America, who they don't considered "white."
@@heylookitsnana it doesn't work. They believe that south american countries are responsible for their condition and so will demand for migrants to stay in their countries and overthrow the governments there
I live with a conservative Latino. It's weird for someone like me who is a centrist and the son of Asian immigrants. I want to ask him about why he would support a political group and ideology that has a history of needlessly demonizing Latino immigrants, but he's one of "those types" of conservatives, so discussing anything that requires serious thought is generally a painful experience. I share OP's frustration with this group.
I'm Latino (Chicano) and I've experienced this too. I think it is the proximity to whiteness that Latinos crave where they are willing to put down migrants in a form of irony. I was raised by my Mexican, immigrant parents who more or less told me to keep my head down and not make too much noise which might be why some Latinos go to the Republican party in a way to try and conform...Also a lot of Latinos use facebook or whatsapp and misinformation spreads like wildfire, I know my dad was apprehensive about getting a covid vaccine because facebook told him it causes cancer.
“Know-at-all killjoy assholes” is true. Being well versed in anti capitalism politics is great, but I don’t think people realize how strong American propaganda is. When the closest thing most black people will get to anti establishment politics is being a hotep because of how over exposed it is, it’s something we have to keep in mind.
Also some leftists...are just like that. They almost don't need capitalism to doomonger because the sad buzz of being the smartest, most radical sounding person in the room is more appealing to them. Remember, political views don't make the quality of the person, the quality of the person should form their political views
As a leftist, the biggest issue I see in most leftist commentary across the board (on social media in particular) is a failure in messaging. The messaging tends to be made in such a way that its difficult/annoying for the uninitiated to parse or make sense of, and the tendency to be doom and gloom with that messaging is definitely going to turn people off who aren't there yet. This isn't even going into the posts that sound like pure condemnation and belittling directed at those who aren't up to speed (which I understand why those posts are made, but we aren't doing ourselves any favors by sounding like assholes to those we are wishing to win over).
In my mind, leftist messaging across the board needs to adopt the concept of "meeting people where they're at", which would go a long way in getting people to at least listen to and potentially consider what's being shared, and not automatically put non-leftist into defense mode, or feel like the conversation is depressing/guilt tripping. This would also lead to more potential community building and opportunities to educate, as JD mentioned in the video.
There's also the issue where particular groups of leftists message in the verbiage of the books and other works that they consume for their political theory. How they expect the average person who has never read anything from Marx to Fanon to fully grasp what they are saying is ridiculous and unrealistic. There definitely is an air of intellectual smugness in much of this type of rhetoric, which needs to stop if we ever want to build a larger base, let alone live by the values and theory that we are preaching about.
These messaging and attitude flaws also inhibit community building between leftists and non-leftists. Some of the more radical and hardline leftists need to get off their ideological high horses and learn to connect with those outside of their theory echo chambers, because if we don't do this, we will lose the community war, and end up in an even more dire situation.
I think some people who get into politics at a formative age think that people in social settings get annoyed and exasperated at "that guy" going off about politics because everyone there *must* be in disagreement with their politics. They don't consider it's mostly because "that guy" cannot read the room and is aggressively going off about their special interest, disrupting the mood and intent of the social setting. The same thing happens when one of my friends starts talking about boat motors like anyone gives a fk and it's obviously not cause everyone there has strong opinions about Chris Craft.
@@herrerabeast This tactic is so commonly thrown out there that nobody else knows the most prominent instance where this was implemented. You know where? Weimar Germany, when their Social Democratic Party compromised with the Freikorps, and look what happened next there. We must emphatically not meet the inert mass of decaying traditions where they are at, since this is specifically what needs to be changed! If compromise is chosen with them, will true change ever happen?
14:23 My core memory from the 2008 election is when it was called for Obama and I heard my mom (now in her 50s) start crying from the other room. I went to check on her and she was on her knees praying fervently for the his and his family's safety. I've never seen her react that way to anything before.
It was such a different world, and it was only ~15 years ago...
I remember Muslims felt the same worldwide thinking if any president can bring peace it's a man named Hussein in the White House but alas
@@Hayanomie 😬
A core memory was sitting down with a black child in a classroom I was doing college work in and asking him if he was excited about Obama. He straight up told me that he'd either never become president or would, y'know, become another Kennedy situation. That really punched me in the gut, especially 'cause I knew this kid from the year before. He'd always been so smiley and sweet. I didn't want him to be depressed. It also just made me see how simplistic I'd been seeing the election.
I’m Kenyan/Congolese so trust me when I say the whole of sub Saharan Africa was in jubilation when Barrack won. My mom would even dress me up like Obama
Was there a certain occasion to dress up, or were you just that hyped about Obama?
aww that’s so sweet. i am american but this reminded me of how my friends mom told her that if obama won she could throw glitter everywhere 😂 ten years later they were still finding glitter all over the house
Bruh, I'm Canadian and I was a little kid at the time and I remember the excitement. I barely knew what was going on, I was just excited a black man accomplished something big and was on TV for something 'positive'. The black people around me were levitating for years over this.
Italian here, I was in middle school and remember vividly writing in an essay about how much I hoped that he will abolish capital punishment (my family have always been involved in human rights activism and we were all really hopefull about him) and how happy I was that he won. Plus commenting with my mom about how elegant and handsome he was/is...
Hahaha (laughing lovingly) I want to see a photo of that
Re white women: In my circle, we are on board. The problem is with our mothers. We've spent years trying to talk them around but they won't budge.
I'm in the same boat. Every white woman friend I know that's Gen X and younger is happy to vote for Harris. But a lot of us have conservative mom's that are still make excuses for the GOP for religious reasons.
Oh man, it’s been rough. Either I am brainwashed, a baby republican that doesn’t know it yet, or a terrible person for challenging the religious views that have made the lives of women worse. It’s wild. My mother has a PhD in physics and she can’t handle stating her she/her pronouns. I don’t know what to do.
I got my boomer mother to join a livestream for her! I know everyone’s mother is starting from a different point, but I do think it’s worth talking to older white women who might be really alarmed by Dobbs and JD Vance.
I wonder if age is a factor. My mom (early 50s) is very clearly going to vote for Kamala. Fiancé and I (both early 30s, and white as glue) are also doing the same. My grandmother however… I cannot deal with her. I can hear contempt in her voice when we discuss my volunteering, where I teach English to refugees.
@@vokkera6995 I think it's Partly a factor, but my mom is evangelical of the most conspiratorial thinking kind, while my grandma has been generally liberal-voting and attended a mainline church all her life that is now LGBT affirming. Grandma is chill in ways that Mom totally isn't, so it's weird how older folks shake out sometimes.
Y'all if you intend to vote, make sure you double check that you are registered and if not to register ASAP. I got purged from the voter registry (after they already did some fucked up shit). Check that shit!!
Yikes this is what I was afraid of, imm gonna have my folks double check they registry too. Granted im from Dallas County that *typically* leans left/liberal, buts it’s Texas 😭
Absolutely
Double check to learn about R F K
Thank you for bringing this to people's attention, this is a good PSA. You're doing the Lord's work out here. TurboVote seems like a decent resource to check on voter registration, you might want to do your own research on them.
yeah this is crazy fr. just heard about Truth the Vote in Texas and now I gotta check my registrations.
Im just venting. Not really an attack on anyone.
As a black person who has always been a paycheck away from poverty, works a janitorial job and my parents lost their home while I was a child, elections exhaust me because Im in a group that's consistently silenced. I want democrats to do better but regularly get told to hold my tongue and just vote blue. That doesn't mean much to many of us in my position when my life has unfortunately been the same no matter who is in office.
Not me saying not to vote, I have always voted, but I'm so well past hearing too many in the black excellence crowd telling me to just vote for "the lesser of two evils" when evil is evil. The police have been the biggest issue in my life and now Im basically forced to vote for one because it feels many progressive Americans care more about normalcy than being uncomfortable and inconvenienced with change and uprooting systems. Im just so exhausted.
Edit: Im starting to believe some of you read what you want because what is all this about not voting when I didn't say that? Cant believe I vent about not being heard just to see people talk about inaction that I explicitly said I avoid doing. Im done.
I hear you and I can understand your plight. It’s very frustrating
yep... ive never felt unburdened when democrats are in office, which i thought was the point
I don't know, I've never thought that voting Democrat would make life easier or change much. What I have thought is that letting America be a dictatorship just because I'm tired is something I cannot allow. I cannot personally live with doing nothing while the other side wants to celebrate hurting people just because of the color of their skin, or their non-binary gender. I really don't care much about myself, but seeing others in pain and knowing that I not only didn't do what I could to prevent it, but actively participated in it hurts me. This isn't to say some Democrats wouldn't do the same thing, but it is far less likely from a Democrat when looking at their Republican counterpart. I don't really even consider myself especially left leaning, which I'm sure is obvious, but America is SO far right that a moderate left person may as well be an extremist.
The point is, everyone is tired. I don't think anyone really knew how tired they were until Trump, but giving up is hardly the answer. I honestly get not wanting to vote for the lesser of two evils because I felt the same for the longest time. Hell, the first time I actually felt like voting was Obama's first cycle. I was in my 30s for the record. Before that we had repulsive, but manageable presidents. Obama turned out to be more of the same. Then we got Trump and an attempted coup. As much as I hate the status quo I would hate living in a dictatorship more. Nobody in a dictatorship is actually happy, and if they say they are it's because the state is telling them to say they are happy. I don't know what the right answer is to get America to move the correct direction, but I know what it's NOT. The answer is not giving up because you are tired. Everyone is tired. Between working for a corporation that pretends to care about people while using every loophole to screw them over, and living in a country that does pretty much the same thing it's exhausting. Nothing ever got done by just letting the world happen around you though.
This was not supposed to be this long originally, and part of that is that I really don't have time to analyze every part of my response. As such I may have a few non sequiturs throughout my post. What I really want to drive home is that I will probably never be happy on a personal level with a Presidential candidate, but that's fine because nobody will ever match my way of thinking exactly. To think differently is the height of hubris on my part. I don't even want that in the end, what I want is for people to be happy and feel safe, and unfortunately that means treading water until we can come up with a better way as a nation. I look at it like this, I will probably never live to see what I hope comes to pass, but if I give up I know it will never happen. We are in a very real fight for our identity as a nation and it won't take much for the other side to win.
@@HRDSalami654That wasnt about my personal happiness. I do vote and I explicitly said my reply wasnt a call not to vote. My point was people like me consistently get put on a back burner while we vote and hope things change and they'll get to it later and later never comes. You said you want people happy and safe and Im implying due to politics and those who enforce them, I am not safe and I am unhappy due to a lack of security. Take that as you will and feel as you please but don't confuse that with what I said.
Voting for harm reduction can be a useful reason to vote for certain candidates/party, even when one is discouraged by the the quality of the politicians offered by our two-party system.
Also, while harm reduction doesn't seem like a very "exciting" cause, less harm in the world does everyone good and can be the difference between life and death for some of us.
I was on the fence about voting for Harris until Trump showed up at that black journalist panel and said that he wanted cops like the killers of George Floyd and Sonya Massey to get full immunity from prosecution while on the job. After that, I donated to her campaign.
Same lol because what the fuck 😂
It honestly hadn't occurred to me that any of my fellow white women would fail to vote for Harris because they want the first woman president to be white, but now that you've said it, knowing the history of White Feminism, that sounds both extremely stupid and horrifyingly plausible.
Thanks for making me aware of this danger, I'll do what I can to try to make sure we're not horrifyingly stupid in November.
Please remind them about Project 2025. Those conservatives aren't just after banning abortion. They're coming for contraception, no fault divorce, family leave, etc. While I agree some of the rhetoric may be hyperbole, you see how underestimating Republicans turned out with Roe. I live in Texas, and they're already trying to arrest women from leaving the state for an abortion, when initially it was "we won't prosecute the mothers."
Nobody cares that she’s not white. I haven’t heard anybody male/female/black/white- nobody is saying anything about her race. I have no idea where he got that idea from.
As a cohort of Kamala generation, just a reminder woman we only were able to get a checking account in our own name in 1974! We are ready for a woman president but I am a little worried about her experience she will be facing a huge Israel and Ukrainian problem , she also needs to lay out her agenda right now she has the vibe but I don’t see substance. Signed independent voter not a Trump supporter she needs to earn my vote
@@angelikafieseler741 honestly, as daunting as those challenges are, I'd much rather have her dealing with that than Trump. The way he dealt with most world leaders, especially Putin and Netanyahu, was downright embarrassing.
I'm all for her proving herself, but even just on what we know right now, compared to Trump or even Biden, she's the most qualified option we've got.
That possiblity had never even occurred to me, but the very thought makes me so very sad.
everything aside, as someone who is half black and half Pakistani I think it’s rather need to not just have a nonwhite biracial person, but the oddly specific black and south Asian pairing biracial person be in such a prominent role.
Conversations about mixed people often ignore that not all mixed people are half white. so I hope this changes the conversation.
Bingo. Some people discuss mixed people as if "mixed" is a singular race itself, even though two different mixed people may not have the same racial backgrounds at all.
Keanu Reeves and Melonie Fiona are both "mixed", and they are both not the same race at all. Keanu Reeves is neither black nor is he Indian. Fiona is neither white nor is she native Hawaiian.
Divorcing mixed black people from their blackness and their African origin is something I'd never encourage.
Jesus, I have been arguing with people all day who can't seem to understand that Kamala didn't just suddenly "switch" from being Indian to Black, and that someone can, in fact, hold both identities at the same time.
@@victory7763 I took a couple college classes on this--and I don't mean this to talk over your opinion, but just to provide some added context on what academia means by treating mixed as a separate "thing"--it's less about treating all mixed people as the same, because of course someone who is half Black half Asian is going to have a very different experience than someone who is half white half Latino, but more acknowledging that there are similarities in identity struggle that a LOT of mixed people share across the board. It's often the case that neither parent can fully identify with the child's experience because each of them only has half the story. Additionally, social in-groups outside the home often do consolidate around cultural identities, but a mixed child might have difficulty fitting into BOTH groups that make up their identity. A mixed Black/white child could be immediately singled out as Black by their white peers, but might not be "Black enough" to fit in with their Black peers, for instance.
It's been, like, 10 years since I took those classes, so I'm sure the conversation has evolved a lot since then, and I can't remember a ton of detail, but I thought it was an interesting consideration.
@Crazy_Diamond_75 would it shock you if I told you that the average African American isn't just one race? Or that race is a construct? Or that Latino is an ethnicity and not a race? Yet we see Latino treated as a race, we see that many African Americans aren't aware that they aren't "pure", and that race is treated as a biological consistency or as if it's classified the same way everywhere in the world when it isn't
What you say about holding both identities is true, and that mean not being "part-time" of either. If The Rock goes to a traditional Samoan event, it's it's the fact that he's Samoan that allows his participation in those events. And when The Rock, because he is black too, he was created to the (fictional group) Nation of Domination.
And mind you, no one Samoan is telling The Rock "you ain't Samoan", but you do have SOME black people who want to challenge him on being black, even though he's iterated this multiple times. Let's be very aware that being anti-black is a practice by default, even by other black due to indoctrination. We've learned very well to divide ourselves for any reason, and someone having a non-black parent is a low hanging fruit scenario.
I don't know what's so hard about some understanding context and what someone is mixed WITH being relevant (not talking about you specifically). The people calling Kamala racial slurs that are derogatory towards black people aren't doing it because of her Indian side, it's obviously because of her black side. For example, they are calling her "loud". That is a stereotype for BW not Indian women. They are targeting her for being BLACK, not for her being Indian. And you see this pattern repeat with other multiracial black individuals, and its always been this way.
Being mixed is not new either. Malcom X was mixed, MLK was technically mixed (Irish grandparent), Fredrick Douglas was mixed, Nat Turner is speculated to be the son of his mother's master, Thurgood Marshall was likely mixed as well, the list goes on.
This phenomenon of treating being mixed as new thing, particularly for African Americans is ahistorical (meaning disregarding precedence and pretending it's new).
At the end of the day, racial identity is mostly determined by the individual. People's experiences and most importantly their upbringing tend to shape how they identify (this includes monoracial people). The "tragic mu__tto" nonsense tends to come from those who didn't have a firm stance on how they identify in the first place. Not a single soul in the world was even going to tell my father he is not black and have him believe it, no matter if he doesn't "look black" to them (whatever that means).
I'll put it like this: I'm waaaaaay quicker to call Colin Kaepernick my brother than Clarence Thomas, who clearly can't stand himself. I'm waaaaay quicker to call Alicia Keys my sister than Candace Owens. Again, it's about the individual; we can't choose for other people how they wish to identify, even if some come off delusional like the woman who got arrested and the cop identified her as black and she was so offended that he called her black because she's "mixed" (again it's about upbringing too). She was more offended that someone called her black than the fact that she was getting arrested. She was treated like any other black person, but if she was "mixed" with literally anything other than black, the entire interaction would be potentially different... Meaning she is still receiving the black experience. Now obviously there's more than one black experience, we are no monolith, but we do have relevant over arching experiences unique to us that mixed or not you can possibly experience.
So yes, my two things are "what's your heritage?" And "how do you identify?". We don't determine how other people identify, I simply identify with those who are not offended or running from identifying with me
@@victory7763 Thanks for your great, detailed reply. Yeah, definitely, it's largely going to be up to the individual how they identify and who they have community with, nowadays. But I think that's part of the point, right? Anti-miscegenation laws in the past prevented people from holding a "mixed" identity until fairly recently, and what mattered a lot more back then was whatever category society forced you into than whatever identity you would have constructed had you had the opportunity. And I totally agree it would be ahistorical to apply that identifier to someone _in the past,_ because racialization from back then doesn't line up 1:1 with the way it works now--but these systems have changed over time.
Abortion rights, term limits, and stability. I won't make the same mistake I did in 2016 by tossing my vote to someone who was never going to win. I'll be voting for Harris.
Jill stein?
@@ThePlKLE As a third-party candidate in the US presidential election, she is by definition someone who is never going to win. And no, none of the other third-party candidates are going to win, or even get any electoral votes, either. Your choices are voting for the Democrat, voting for the Republican, or sitting on your hands and doing nothing.
Same, I didn’t vote for a president in 2016(did vote down ballot). I live in MI in a swing country. Will never make that mistake again. I will say back then we didn’t think Trump would win. Polls are the reason I have trust issues lol…
I’ll vote Trump!
@@footballdesk4417glwt
White dude here. I remember holding my 3 week old son, watching the tv back in Nov 2008 and thinking "Wow, he did it? Maybe America isn't as racist as I thought!" I voted for him, but I didn't actually think he stood a chance. But I was wrong, and it was a good day. I had hope that my son would grow up in a better world. I remember thinking Hilary would win easily, not 90% east, but still. I didn't care about her, but I voted for her, because the other option was...really? I was wrong. I wasn't so sure Biden would get in, but I voted for him anyway, because milquetoast was better than 4 more years of all of that nonsense. I didn't think he would step down, though. I was wrong. I thought Harris was the WORST choice, because America has shown me just how racist AND sexist it still is, I thought she'd be DOA. I was wrong. I'm trying real hard not to get my hopes up here, but c'mon people, can we just do this one more time? Please? I'd really like to have that better world as a possibility, even if I never personally see it. *grumbles about making me vote for a cop*
The thing I tell myself is the worst of society tends to also be the loudest. They're, sadly, the most passionate at times for their beliefs as they're fueled by fear, anger, and hatred, and the only way they'll feel secure and happy is when they achieve control over those they're fearful of. I know this because I grew up in a very racist town and heard it from many of them.
Good people are out there and they're everywhere, and every generation we get better, and the hate knows that they're slowly dying out so they get more desperate.
No hate but what did Obama do tho,the status quo continued domestically and internationally
@@jackholman5008 He broke a lot of peoples' brains, mostly. But yeah, he was pretty status quo. Young me just thought that a black guy with a middle name like that stood no chance, not even a little. I'm from the South, I've heard the things people say (a lot), so maybe that was just this area? Maybe most of America actually is different or getting there? Oh wait, nope, here they all come. But that one day was nice.
The word cop really has lost all meaning
@@jackholman5008 what did you expect? Reparations? His existence changes the course of history. The past matters.
Young white woman here! I will be voting for Harris this November and I feel like we will be a solid voting block for her as we don’t want a tyrant who wants to take away our bodily autonomy in office. Lol
Purple man here. I will also vote for Harris because I don't like Fascists! :)
14:26 When Obama got voted in, all the way across the otherside of the world where I live, the young Maori guy from my work, at the time, got pretty emotional. Since despite having three women Prime Misters, we still haven't had a Maori or other non-white PM. So yeah Obama was a pretty big deal for a lot of folks around the world.
When he got voted in so many white Australians were emotional about it. I used to clean houses and found that hope poster in multiple white people's homes. Even to this day if you say anything negative about Obama people think it's sacrelige
@@katerrinah5442 Hmm... can't say I've ever seen an Obama poster in the wild wow
and then he proceeded to basically betray his race. symbolism is more important than substantive changes.
If she a stepmother, she's not "childless".
I agree with you, but I think the point that was trying to be made is that she doesn’t have black or biracial children
she take care of somebody else kid. Is not hers, she's not a mom.
If the children call her mom she’s a mom.
@@randomweirdcl0wnshut up
It really depends on the situation. A step mother has no actual required responsibilities to the kid.
But if they choose to try to be a mother figure sure. My step mom is a better mother than my biological mother would ever be.
As a white woman in the south me and all of my white female colleagues and friends are all rallying behind Kamala. My group and I do not represent the SAHMs and conservative majority that seemingly exists here. But we are here and we are voting and we are speaking about the importance of this in our day to day lives.
As a SAHM I absolutely support Kamala. We need a woman to turn everything back around for us. Freedom of choice for all.
"We are know-it-all-killjoy-assholes" Damn shot straight into my heart lol
I feel seen!
Same tho
annoying leftist cousin at the family cookout WE RISE
@@dublancdedindereal 🚶🏽♀️🫡
That "yall don't love me" was the most vulnerable, earnest tangent lol
6:37 that “I’m Old” sounded so sad and TIRED
I think it's hysterical. As a 70+ woman with lots of health issues; when I hear healthy whippersnappers complain about feeling old, it just strikes me as somewhere between ridiculous and kind of wistful.
At my age, every day above ground is a good day. And while I miss my youth and all the fun and energy that came with it, I do not miss the inexperience, naivety and general ignorance from those days.
Much of that ignorance was due to lack of time for contemplation and education, because a busy life, work, kids.
But these days, due to that age and disability, I now have a useful amount of time for developing a deeper understanding of the world in which we all live.
BTW, I do appreciate sites like this one to help me develop that understanding.
Harris seems to be distancing herself from Joe's position on Israel and she can actually say abortion is healthcare and mean it. Honestly, that's enough to change me from a maybe to a yes, even if it's not nearly enough in general.
I do not believe that it will be meaningful. Presidents do not go against geopolitics lest they get the JFK treatment from the defense establishment.
Please look again that she has done nothing about the genocide in Gaza. She denounced the protestors and "supports Israel's right to defend itself". That is supporting the genocide in Gaza. A vote for her is a vote for genocide
She makes it seem like she distance herself from it but in reality she still stays on the 'Israel has the right to defends itself' and doesn't plan on stopping the arm embargo
She also has connections to Zionism from her childhood
@@flowerfield-sg2xgI'm really hoping I'm wrong but I don't think Zionism's grasp on the U.S. Will go away in our lifetime
@@supermio64 It's highly unlikely but I don't think that people should just accept it and throw in the towel. The last more than 9 months show that we can change a lot
A lot of self-describe leftists treat these like mutually exclusive ideas, but I think we need to get comfortable with holding both "electorialism will not create radical change" and "engaging in electorialism is a vital form of harm reduction" in our minds. I'm not a fan of Harris, but I feel sometimes we get so caught up in trying to justify our collective Cassandra Complex, that we lose sight of pragmatism. Although once she wins, the gloves are coming off.
As an aside, I'm skeptical about the white woman analysis. The influence of racism can't be ignored, but also it can't be understated how significant the overturning of Roe v Wade was politically.
Yeah no “harm reduction” is not a strategy but a pacification of something that is just corrupt. You’re not saving anything by “voting for a lesser evil, you’re just creating another pathway for that evil to exist. Don’t vote for less evil, vote for something different.
@@ChrisBrown-zq8ch Something meaningfully different will not come from voting. The electoral process has been too thoroughly subject to elite capture. If you want something actually different, it must be built from the bottom, through a parallel power structure.
@@ChrisBrown-zq8ch Like what?
@@DJATOMICA95 Third Party’s, Create your own party, if your a democrat but hates how the party is being ran. Condition Your Vote, Support Mutual Aid, Support activist who you have political alignment with, Start Ballot initiatives, anything but “I have to vote for something I truly don’t like, because the other side will do something I don’t like. Anything!
@@ChrisBrown-zq8ch I think youtube ate my other comment, maybe because I was a bit too critical of electoralism. That said, while third parties have their use in pressuring the main two, elite capture is at such a state where you aren't going to get meaningful change through that route. We need to build parallel power structures from the bottom up to get radical change. I agree with your "support mutual aid" part, but I think "mutual aid *organizations*" is the key. Through bottom-up organization we build the future, electorialism is what we do in the meantime.
"Ya'll made fun of all my selfies..." lol fine wine man, age is just a number!
genuinely threw me 😂
We've got very problematic stuff going on here in Canada. We're definitely not the paradise that people paint us as. 😕
why he thinks he can move to Canada with all his documented hatred for drake makes me wonder if d*ugs were present during his Vegas trip 😂
@@ashxpotatoesCanada been turned on Drake already, FD ain’t got nothing to fear 😂
@@ashxpotatoes I'm from Toronto and I've always hated Drake 🍁
@@ashxpotatoes He stopped being cool when he left Degrassi. Jimmy Brooks was 😎...
@@ronmexico7256 yeah because Canada’s economy will have him running back to the US within months.
Candace Owens doing a run-in with a steel chair had me dying 😂
I would like to hope that white women will turn out for Kamala Harris now that Roe v Wade is basically on the ballot, like in 2022
From your keyboard to God’s ears. I am _tired_ tired of my people letting the country down -.-
They won’t and they’ve showed us that repeatedly
I do think the Roe v Wade thing is actually going to help a ton
The white women I know (myself included) are PUMPED to vote for Kamala!! I would have begrudgingly voted for Biden but I am truly excited to vote for the first time since Bernie!
@@Purplefoxsoul it was only really liberal white women upset about Roe V Wade being overturned, not conservative women. That being overturned didnt cause any real political shift or opposition when it happened, I doubt itll make that much of a difference now.
Man we all cried when Obama got elected. It was a moment that many thought would never happen.
And we cried again when he basically quit on us to whore himself out to Late Night.
Did you cry when he signed off on drone attacks that murdered many civilians in the middle east during his presidency?
I also cried when Obama was elected and I'm ok with that, I miss being hopeful.
Same. Back in the day it felt really good. I miss that feeling.
I remember my HS live streamed the inauguration in the theater, and all the history classes went and watched. I brought my lunch so I could stay longer.
It was a historic moment regardless
Same and I am Gen Z (27)
100% this. I remember 08, fresh out of college thinking "this is happening. we can do this. we can make this world a better place." I'm fucking old and tired now, and I miss being hopeful.
Listen, just as you can't run for president if you're under the age of 35, you shouldn't be able to run if you're over the age of 65. IMAGINE how we could have avoided so many unfocused childish fights in the last 8 years. I am happily waiting for that smack to the reset button! Kamala NEEDS to be president to end this madness from both sides. Trump/Biden is just nails on a chalkboard to my ears. Time to refocus on the issues at hand and NOT on what side wins!
Who started those unfocused childish fights? It wasn't Democrats. Dont try to "both sides" this.
@@user-tt1hx2nm4p I am a Democrat. But the words Democrat and Republican are now used as insults. That comes from both sides.
As an Australian, it's crazy to hear people say they don't trust that white women will vote for Kamala. Even after all this time it's still mind boggling that anyone from any demographic would vote for more of Trump. Hopefully I'm not being overly optimistic in thinking that she will 100% win this!
White women are definitely voting for Kamala!
It’s a reality though. Suburban white women are a huge voting block in America. I think there’s less married white women and it will make a huge difference this election.
In a sane political landscape, Trump would never have had a chance in the first place. Putin would have been tossed out on his ear years ago. Boris Johnson would be manning a garbage truck and Britain would still be part of the E.U. Fascism in general wouldn't be having a resurgence.
But we are not in a sane political landscape, so it's kind of hard to be certain about anything right now. And remember, Trump wasn't the cause of all this, he's merely a symptom of what right-wing positions in the U.S. have been sowing for decades.
That kill joy shit is why I don’t politics w/ anyone… I bring everybody down… tell my friends all the time, boycotting shit ain’t fun… I haven’t had Chic Fil A in 10+ years and I’m not even 🏳️🌈.
You know what, I appreciate you not eating Chic Fil A. I'm not gonna say you're changing the world, but thanks.
Do you like Popeyes? And real talk, thanks for putting the sentiment out there that boycotts aren't fun/easy- it's shallow but it's true.
I forget if I started buying Tostito's again before or after Frito Lay supposedly hashed out their last big worker strike, but the grotesque corn-salt-crunch triangles just work.
Not Lay's though, Wise or Utz or whatever off-brand potato chips are universally better.
Same with Nestlé and their parent company Unilever. They own so much shit it's not even funny anymore. Nearly all ice cream near me is from Langnese aka Unilever. The summer heat feels extra vicious when you refuse to eat 90% of the ice pops available
I appreciate you for that.
Leftists present themselves as a very unlikeable bunch. I say this as a person with mostly progressive views. The optics are usually moral grandstanding, making other folks feel like they are bigots of some sort, various purity tests of who is left enough ideologically. The left devours and alienates the moderate all too often. It’s not a winning strategy from what I see.
Me a white woman, was watching this mostly just to have something to think about while I groggily woke up after a 12 hour bus ride.
When you said "White women!" it snapped me out of my fugue state as I realized I was being addressed.
I agree, have a lot of doomer lefty friends but I think biden had a coin flip and kamala has a really great chance. Everyone who wouldn't vote for Kamala for a stupid reason already prob would've gone trump and even a few of those are prob gonna support her as a cop against a felon (bad reason to vote for her but I'm not gonna pretend its not compelling to a lot of folks). Will be happy to have you in Canada!
As much as the brunch crowd annoys me idk let them get some momentum and hype and Kamalas already better than I ever hoped we'd get out of this election. Also I am lowkey scared to see my fellow white ladies who've been hiding there racism power level come out of the wood work on this one. Theres gonna be the right wingers which tbh were going trump or staying home anyways ofc but I also kindof expect like a really weird stubborn #stillhill crowd to be super bitter that there fav evil girlboss wouldn't be the first woman president.
LMAO 💀
Telling people that Obama was actually a bad president is like trying to convince a dude his girl is cheating on him but he doesn't believe you
I know im gettin old cause you said "crash out" and my eyebrows went up. I still talk about goin ham. Tf is crash out 😂😂
Crash out is going HAM except it's a negative response to something instead of being like hype exciting that going ham is 😂💁♀️
Act a fool breakout in outrage spiraling out of control etc
Y'know, fall out with energy, like crashing a bike.
Preciate the education 😂😂🙇🏽
Was recently on a flight out of Houston sat next to a older black man who mentioned he'd graduated with a PHD from a HBCU. While showing me pictures of himself in a casual environment with both Biden and Kamala he basically said the same thing FD is. They're about to go ham.
My mom is in AKA and my late Nana was as well. My mother has made it abundantly clear that any criticism of the Harris campaign will be seen as personal criticism. That Divine Nine shit is crazy.
FD saying "Y'all made fun of all my seflies. Y'all don't love me" so sadly, it made me cry.
Cry from LAUGHTER
Hello!
"going ham" does that mean going goblin mode
Going ham typically is more in line with "going crazy"
I'm ageing just reading this
correct, you get the idea
H.A.M.- Hard As a MF (am I that old ffffffff)
@@rbasara1right!
And I'm still laughing! 🤣 It's all love though 🙌🏽 congrats on evo and good luck these next few months
I voted for Obama both times and STILL almost got fired from my 1st gig for talking "negatively" about Obeezy. I simply asked out loud, "how the ninja got a Nobel Peace Prize?!" After it was announced.
My coworkers starred holes in me 😂
My boss called me into the office and basically put a lot of the older black folks happiness in perspective and was like, "Let them have this."
😂😂😂
The whole world was in such a dark place after 8 years of Bush, Obama gave the whole world hope again, though brief.
That prize has been a joke since Kissinger got one in 1973, anyway.
The award is named after someone who created dynamite..who saw that it was a fucked up invention, creating death(not what it was intended for) made a "Peace" award for anyone...and they literally gave it to anyone 🤦🏾♂️
LOLOLOLOL🤣😂🤣😂
You’re speaking my language with that Black Excellence Brunch crowd!! When I was a student at the University of Mississippi, the leaders of our Black Student Union were campaigning for…and I’m not kidding… MIKE BLOOMBERG. And when I pushed back they called me out as a Trump supporter when BERNIE SANDERS was in the race 🤦🏾♀️ I was so ashamed 😅😂 Even as a grad student and employee of the University now, I still have no clue how they came to that conclusion…now they are the black faces in high places that will FOR SURE do harm
Fuckin BLOOMBERG? Really? I gotta wonder if he was paying them, cause famously even his door knockers were only in it for the paycheck
Wait, Mike Bloomberg(As in the former Mayor of NYC 2008-2013)? Hahahaha, I hope they know about all the messed up policies Bloomberg implemented before he retired. Glad you called it out for what it is
@@Isaac-h1b7e I called them out and of course they did. These are prominent activists on campus. One has gone on to get a law degree and work in politics 🤦🏾♀️ They said “He’s apologized.” And I said how can you apologize for STOP AND FRISK????? Arguably the most racist policy since the crime bill!!
Its so important to realize that these are legitimately "early thoughts" on kamala. I know we have an instant response culture but every single one of those response videos was based on nothing. We only JUST NOW have information and can form an opinion. Thank you for waiting.
I mean is she gonna have an awakening at 60 years old or whatever she is rn? Or is she gonna spin the same ol wheel?
Hey! You're not childless when you have stepkids!
Stepkids count ♥️
“Republicans about to have Candace Owens come out like Stone Cold Steve Austin with a steel chair”…😂
F.D. knows just how to contextualize the Republican strategy better than anyone else lol
That was so hilarious 😂😂
@@biharcourt @RealJosephMM Probably my favorite part of the entire video 😂
Brilliance.
Voting for Kamala when I was going to stay home about Joe not because I expect different from Kamala Harris but because my mother is a big Hillary Clinton stan and I keep imagining how much it will hurt Hillary's ego for someone else to become the first female president.
White woman for Kamala Harris! And I’m bringing +2! Reproductive rights, LGBTQ rights, and the climate are on the ballot! 💙
🙏🏾☮️💙
All of those issues are miniscule to world War and world money issues. Grow up and realize what's actually important.
FD, I am 37, white and from the country. I am an anarchist and believe our democracy is a farce, and I STILL CRIED when Obama got elected.
I'm a white guy who's 20 years older than you....and so did I lol.
It really was a turning point, one that I'm not sure we'll see the likes of again soon.
@kezia8027 Yeah, we are far more likely to see a turning point, way in the opposite direction unfortunately.
Ashamed to say… i voted against Obama first go-round. I grew up white trailer trash, and we didn’t trust change. But his first term changed things for me just like he promised. It exposed all the xenophobia, racism, religious fanaticism, and ignorance around me, things i excused away that i couldn’t deny anymore. It was a massive awakening for me, and i did cry when i voted for his reelection. I think more for myself, a “shedding of scales from my eyes” as it were, and to allow myself to feel that joy you felt, if four years later
@penzotoko6619 Righteous. I'd love to feel it again if I could!
I'm 26 and you made ME feel old by asking if people still say, "going ham" me and my friends never stopped!
"I'm a man. I'm 40!" I cried when Obama got elected as well.
@@rosslaverdure sounded like a super bowl victory in my neighborhood 😅 everyone was cheering at the top of their lungs
@@danceswith7wolves Hahaha
At the risk of sounding like an oldhead, I'm gonna say it: That Obama high will NEVER be understood by Gen Z. I remember when Jesse Jackson (long time, outspoken Obama hater) even cried after he had his famous hot mic moment. The sad part is, when I finally realized that Jesse was right in the first place.
Jesse was just mad because he thought Obama jumped the line and should've waited his turn behind him 🙄
I wish I believed that the criticism of Biden's handling of the Gaza war had any bearing on him stepping down. He stepped down when the donors lost trust he could win and I doubt Kamala will change the Middle East policies at all although we might see a slight change in rhetoric to appease the critics. Personally I am just happy that we are no longer dependent on Biden to keep Trump out of another WH term, I don't really believe in "it has to get worse to get better" when it comes to people's lives.
Yeah that was the only part of the video I found laughable. Americans don't give a shit about Gaza - it maybe contributed -0.01% to Joe's unpopularity.
@@CheesecakeMilitia Total popularity, sure. But there are sizeable muslim constituencies in Michigan. It may not be enough to affect the national vote, but it's enough to swing a battleground state.
@@proy3 muslim and young. I think people dont understand how unpopular this is. Almost all the young people i know on the left are against what israel is doing, and the young vote was somewhat impactful in the midterms, so they might actually be listening.
@@CheesecakeMilitiathe American people absolutely care about Gaza. Both parties are against sending weapons to Israel and supper a ceasefire. Check the polls. American politicians don’t.
Kamala is undeniably the best candidate they’ve run against Trump, but it’s not like the bar was high
It's crazy how much you guys are being led to falsehood again.
Wasn't kamala the one who was dragging her own people to jail?
What about Cornell West?
15:37 I remember Anita Sarkeesian getting memed for saying "everything's racist, everything's sexist, everything's homophobic, and you have to point it all out to people!" But it really is like that. Nobody wants to be a killjoy, but how else are we supposed to make progress?
You can be normal in most situations...
"Doomerism is cringe." Say it louder for the leftists in the back! Honestly as a leftist (I'm more of a Social Democrat) if Trump weren't the opponent, I'd be more wary to vote for Kamala. But, unfortunately for me, I don't have the privilege and financial security to live under another (and possibly worse) Trump administration.
I think "doomerism" is being blown way out of proportion because the far more popular, and less interrogated message, is false hope.
for how much longer do you think you can continue riding the "lesser evil" election strategy while the lives of most people keep getting actively worse before everyone tells you to go shove it
‘Possibly’ worse? Possibly?? It WILL be exponentially worse.
@@UNOwn-ib1tdI say “possibly” because I don’t know the future. Neither do you.
How did Trump impact you financially?
i’m gen z, wtf is crash out feels like taking a 3 hour nap to me
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Ask them yns 😂😂😂
@@ForDaCulture679them yns don’t play unc
freak out would be a synonym of sorts😂
Basically means to not give a fuck anymore and make incredibly self-destructive decisions
The way I literally muted that clip of them debating about golf because it made my whole body cringe
Mmhmm, instantaneous 20s skip forward.
All I care about is whether she can beat Donald Trump. Keep the fascist out of the White House, then we can go from there.
I still lived in Chicago when Obama won and was at his victory speech. I cried then too and I will never live that down after telling my leftist friends. Damn...
I feel like some people are trying too hard to seem woke with all that, I was 7 years old when Obama got elected and I damn near shed a tear too 😂
I live in the Bay Area, so my vote doesn't matter much. However, I grew up during her time as a prosecutor. I was a street kid and got my first weed charge at 16. I saw firsthand how messed up our justice system is. Seeing the party brag about her being a prosecutor reopened some wounds for me.
I don't feel right about how Harris treated us, it was a difficult time for me. Whenever someone mentions her, they face strong resistance. It's frustrating to see false information being spread to make her look good, especially when you know from personal experience that it's not true.
Harris was the prosecutor at your trial? That's gotta be rough seeing her in the limelight
My summation is one dog different collar!
I’ll vote for her as the lesser of the two evils but never trust her.
@@KingKay2019trust? I've never voted for trust. Do your best. I don't trust my boss. Never have.
Unfortunately, that's politics.
Vote local yall. That shit matters way, way more to your everyday life than the presidency.
In certain areas. The trump trucks and convoys in my area say different for where I am. I couldn’t have imagine something like that in my town years ago.
I don’t care for Kamala personally but Trump wants to throw out the constitution, do away with elections and literally turn this country into a dictatorship. Get out and vote people, the choice is clear.. I wish it were someone other than Kamala but she’s got my vote.
Is there any politician you care for personally. If so that's a bit bizarre lol
No, but there are clearly better choices. I would pick AOC over any of these people but she's not running right now so hey@@SE-gs6gd
@@SE-gs6gd oh look it's Obtuse Oscar again.
Clearly they're talking about having a personal preference and not a personal attachment. You really go out of your way to intentionally misinterpret people to try and be snarky, huh?
@@johnd8553 why AOC
@@Jane-oz7pp I'm not really a fan of snark
I gotta vote for her. My family lives in a red state (I escaped to a blue state) and my sisters, their daughters, and my mother can no longer get an abortion after 6 weeks. It's terrible
You've got a choice between two drivers: One of them drives the car too slow and maybe isn't going to all the same places you want. The other wants to ram the car into a brick wall. That's why we're voting for Kamela.
Hey man I won’t say no to scenic route as long as I can get where I need to!
I do not remember crashing into a brick wall last time, I and most people I know had it alot better than now. So, this fear mongering did not work last time, its not working now, especially now since there is no precedent to go off. Both sides can be polarizing but I refuse to be a proponent of the people that think its just for a biological man to enter females athletic space and other dormatories; and puts immigrants over its own citizens for political brownie points/potential votes.
Lol 🤦🏽♀️
Not even true, the real analogy is one wants to crash the car into a Chinese wall, the other wants to crash the car into a Russian wall.
zero wars under trump, yet he wants to "ram the car into a brick wall". maybe get off the internet and see how real people live
"I don't hate anyone"
*remembers that Drake exists*
"Well, I don't hate a lot of people..."
😂😂😂😂😂
god the golf clip actually hurts to watch
This is coming from the perspective of someone whose socmed has been flooded with evacuation campaigns right next to Harris funding campaigns, but hearing that $80m was raised In A Day for this while people struggle to make $20k-$100k to get their families to safety just....hurts. People are begging for even just a few bucks and these campaigns are being funded by people trying to give what little they have to them, but $80m is raised in a day. Just like that. It's hard enough as is to get traction and attention on evac campaigns, but worse with fundraisers for aid to Sudan or Congo - but $80m in a day.
Wish that energy was used to help people in lower tax brackets and those in the Global South too, but here we are.
Yea the whole thing makes me sick honestly bc not enough attention is paid to the fact that based on how she has been talking she will 100% continue to send bombs to a country that the ICJ has already declared to be doing a genocide. And minimizing genocide to say people who care enough to vote third party / not vote at all are “one issue voters” is so evil it makes me shudder. I live in a deep deep blue state anyway so my vote literally doesn’t matter.
We could be voting for the first president to be tried in The Hague, but then the US is so powerful and corrupt that there’s no legal recourse against our leaders inside the country or out.
I cried when Obama was elected too. Not hysterical, but a graceful manly tear or two. The moment was just so intense and amazing
I watched him win with my grandfather, who actually remembers using colored only water fountains. YES I cried. And there was nothing "cringe" about it.
Don't forget that she was the first Asian-American vice-president, and would be the first Asian-American president.
Fucking congrats dude, placing top 5% in a highly competitive tournament is no small feat.
I was in the Vegas hotel room trying to decide if I was going to use the free chipotle card when this news broke that Sunday
"You know, Atlanta" holy shit
yah that got me too lol
As a Canadian I’m sorry to tell you it’s not much better up here
14:27 Omg!!! I was a 16 year old white girl and I cried too!!! It was so historically significant!!! As a liberal white teen I definitely thought everything was going to be okay after he was inaugurated 😢
I’m black but was 16 then too. I literally felt the exact same way. I felt so hopeful especially seeing all the white ppl shown cheering him on and chanting USA and crying. I was pleasantly surprised by all the support he got from non black folks.
Then we took a nose dive 8 years later
My mother was quite literally bouncing around the house calling anyone and everyone she could at the time.
With how jaded I’ve been of political leaders nothing really surprises me anymore, but unfortunately, I’m still in a position where I have to vote against DT. Because at this point, it was always about anyone other than him.
6:43 Not the Facebook selfies😂
Nooo baby “crash out” is a bad thing. Think “spazzing out”. You good on going “ham” lmao
The youth teaching the elderly 😂
I'm a white guy who went to school in DC during 2008, I'm from New England, and it was my first time living among black people. I'm a leftist, then and now. I voted Obama, and on Election Night, I went down to the student center where our dining halls were. The Downstairs one had been reserved by the College Republicans, and as I walked by they were all sad watching McCain's speech. I went upstairs to the main dining hall, and all the liberal white students and adult black cafeteria workers, were singing and dancing in a conga line. We was going off. But the feeling of jubilation and change really has never been matched in my life, nor has the feeling of solidarity. Rich white college kids and the working class black employees were unified in that moment. If you weren't around for it, I swear it was a moment.
I was in Seattle at the time, and in Capitol Hill, everyone and I mean EVERYONE was in the streets celebrating. It was such a mixture of people from all walks of life. I remember drag queens on top of street signs leading everyone in the National Anthem and everyone was singing along. I remember a Black guy with hair a lot like FD's being so happy he asked me for a hug. I got easily laid that night. 🤣
Calling out all the Tekken pros.
Love it.
Real ass whuppers play Third strike 😁
"Crash out" still means going to sleep for me.
yeah ive been so confused hearing young people use it
That's because we really are old.
Leftist, white male ally here, and my thinking on the Democratic Party, and all its apparent problems, is that it can be dealt with LATER, after we defeat Trump, and let the gears of the legal system finally grind him to dust. Keep pressure on Harris, and work towards something better further down the line. Gotta get these centrists, at the very least, back into the center.
4 years to turn Biden to the left. Never did happen.
this is completely delusional. the us has been sliding to right for the last 40 years. the whole "deal with it later" is why there's always a crisis. if it isn't bush it's trump, if it isn't trump it's the next thing. You are responding to fear based politics, where the entire program is that the other side's hope is well founded so you better fucking vote to prevent disaster. You ever spend even a second thinking about why this is the case?
Yep, progress under Trump would be unfathomably more difficult to non-existent. Even if I don't align with Kamala on everything she has my vote this election 100%.
They said the same thing about Biden. Vote for the lesser of two evils and push him left after he beats Trump. Four years on, we've got a genocide on in Palestine, a steady stream of arms feeding the proxy war in Ukraine, Western powers escalating towards a war with China, and an utter failure of a COVID pandemic policy, caving in to the demands of big capital. If he can't be pushed left, then he's no harm reduction candidate, and the same goes for Harris as long as she aims to perpetuate imperialist foreign policy.
this is psychotic. you want to normalize a genocide that would not still be occurring without the us’ unilateral support
Ay, gen X, HBC/U grad here & I was crying with you bruh.
Also i was one of those folk holding my breath when he & Michelle got out of the limo at his inauguration.
I was in high school and went to inauguration and we were just terrified the entire time that something crazy was going to pop off