Growing popularity of Joshua Tree impacts longtime locals
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- Kacey Montoya reports for the KTLA 5 News at 6 on May 25, 2022.
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building more homes in the desert.. lots of AC. Lots of water. And all “luxury”
Yet they tell us to conserve water here in CA?! this is ridiculous!
What?
@@RobertDeloyd can you not read? Put your glasses on old man
@@marley1995 now now... be nice.
@@marley1995 LOL🤗
We are shooting at decoys!
He have million gallons per day of water flow being thrown away in the bay at our Delta due to bs & politicaly created california water laws, that is the REAL problem to kill!
The real estate agent has dollar signs for eyes ... he does not care about the Joshua trees ... only about the green in his pocket ...
He is not a local and is profiting just as much. The news station made a very egregious choice in who they interviewed. Stick with locals, not profiteers when finding people to interview.
@@cindyzacks9256 Really doesn't matter now ... the landslide has already begun ... there is no stopping capitalism ... the end of the Joshua Tree is around the corner !!!
All natural life dies in this $$$ society ... money and freeways will topple mother nature at every junction ...
@@cindyzacks9256 Exactly! That guy looks like a recent profiteer coming in for the kill. When I sell it will be through a long-term local realtor for sure!
There's a video on this actually when its on your property you can cut them down ....or a certain class of it ....
There running out of water and they keep building in the desert !
Come out to Mojave where Cal Portland cement company that operates here bulldozed down thousands of Joshua trees last summer in the foothills of the oak creek Mojave area off of Tehachapi Willlow Springs Road. You can see the parts of them laying dead all over the hills East off Tehachapi Willlow Springs Road. When the Wind Farm that is a mile from my ranch was put in the environmentally conscious energy company Chainsawed down massive Joshua trees that had to be over 300 years old. It takes 300 years for a Joshua tree to grow to to full maturity.
Destroy, destroy, destroy ... this is what we will do !!!
😢😢😢😢
Greed
Sorry to hear it, Russ.
Though I am tapping this message out from Indiana, where I am currently working, I've done close to 7 years, on and off, wrenching on wind turbines near Oak Creek Rd., and Tehachapi/Willow Springs Rd.
I miss prime rib night at Big Papa's.... that was a fave of mine.
😪makes me sad to hear this. What a travesty and the govt is doing nothing to protect these beautiful trees and landscape for future generations.
...oh boy... they found us.. 😥
They got water under the desert
@TNerd Amber Heard....lol... Yucca Valley and she'll probably have to sell after Johnny wins.
@@kinkle_Zhave you seen her around town? That would be cool! I love the Aquaman movie!
Not everyone is responsible and respectful.
A bunch of hipsters moved there 10 years ago.
That's why the price
The poverty rate is also over 20% in all 4 of the towns in this area with a median income of less than $50k
yup, and the transplants buying up all rental properties and turning them into airbnbs is not helping the already bad lack of housing here.
I'm a local and living costs have been driven up exponentially.
This is happening all over the country tho
@@dh.151this is happening all over the country tho
@@yumyumkitty2104 worse in many places in CA though. In my last town up to 45% of homes were vacation homes/rentals. That's horrible!!
Well at least the city of L.A. isn't sending all their Section8 lowlife out there like they did in Lancaster, completely wrecking it.
I agree they need to leave national parks alone! And not because of locals but because of the wild life. I moved to San Diego from Washington state because of the military and I’ve never seen somewhere so densely populated. I’ve lived here almost 3 years here and I’ve NEVER seen a deer, I’ve seen a hand full of rabbits and I’ve seen a ton of coyotes running through the cities because they have NO WHERE to go! They need to protect the park and the nature and wildlife!
Deer in San Diego? lol. I was born there, lived there in the 50s through 2006 and I never saw a deer or an elephant! Saw lots of immigrants from Michigan and I enjoyed walking out to the surf up to my knees, bending over and picking up abalone to walk back 5 mins and pound out to a filet for breakfast with eggs. But those days sure are gone... that's why I became a refugee here in the desert and now I'm being pushed out of here too. We'll all be homeless soon. That's called U.S. Imperialism.
It is protected, silly!
Gentrification at its best period
I hope the fish and game vote in June to protect it permanently! Especially for the wild life. I lived both in Joshua tree and Yucca Valley for 9 years both very beautiful
Sounds like a good place for a nice homeless camp
I was born and raised here, my family still lives here. It’s a great place but people moving from the cities are destroying the local economy
What local economy?
There was nothing there before the tourists came
That's right !!!! We need to keep these ppl out I don't want my community to grow !!!!!!! (Sarcasm)
What local economy?
Bringing more business and jobs to the local residents isn't "destroying the local economy". It's helping it. I do agree that Fish & Game should help preserve the national park with certain regulations.
If San Bernardino becomes its own state all that dirt is going to be turned into casinos
bro that's a realtor 🤣???
I hope these beautiful landscapes and trees are protected once and for all times, forever! God bless
I'm sick of these real estate developers.
Glad I was raised in S. Cal got to experience this before this nightmare 🎪🤡👋
Me too... I grew up in Downey in the 50s and 60s... It was SO WONDERFUL... then Mission Beach in the mid-60s, Solana Beach, San Diego in the 80s/90s and downtown in the 1990s-2000s until GENTRIFICATION. No matter where I go.. I'm gentrified. Same thing happening to me now in JT.
@@kinkle_Z Yep I left the whole crap hole behind in 1991 for the mid West Country 🤝🕊
In 2011 i walked across America and ended up in the PNW. Namely Bend. In a matter of about 4 years I watched it get completely overran by Yuppies and a-holes. It started with the AirBNB's and food carts. next thing you know, gentrification architecture popped up everywhere housing overpriced clothing stores and restaurants with stupid names like " SPOON, SPORK,CHOW,CLOTHE,FURNISH...Like something out of "They live" In 2015 I traveled to JTREE and started working with the Park service as a trail patrol ranger. I decided to become a wild land firefighter and moved back to the PNW where i lived up until a few months ago when i decided to pack my jeep and head to Bozeman MT. What did i find? ....a bigger version of Bend. so I moved again to IDAHO. guess what... yuppieville. I gave up and said screw it... I drove south. I'm currently in Sedona but I'm already over it...The traffic is relentless and the amount of sprinter vans and a-holes is too much. I feel like I'm always running away from this crap. I'm planning on moving back to JTREE and working with the park again. Is it too late? I'm an artist, creative, kind, compassionate and CARE deeply about the community I live in. Can I come back and be a productive member of the community even if I'm not rich?
I've lived here right next to JT in 29 my whole life and I agree with everything you said. I think there is a right and wrong way to do it. As long as you aren't contributing to the already bad problems we have. Try to rent from a local, pack in and pack out, maybe help around community circles, if you need work try to stick with locals.
@@dh.151 Sooo... Update. I'm now here.. lol. I actually have a place in yucca valley and I work for a local landscaping company.. :) O lived in my jeep at giant rock for the past month but kept looking for opportunities and posting online. I did some odd jobs for a bit and then got offered a place rent free in exchange for work and property security on a beautifl plot of land with no issues.
LMFAO the guy that opened the desert air bnb doesnt even realize that he is apart if the problem. Even though his property didnt need much development other companies are going to come in and develop resturants and gas stations to cater to his guest and make money as well.
Yeah, and news station had no business interviewing him - just added to the problem! Don't legitimize out of town pillagers.
@@cindyzacks9256 You're so right... although... that a guy's a pillaging joker. Confession though - I wouldn't mind a Trader Joe's in Yucca... now that we're all rich. tee hee...
All the hipsters who moved there a few years ago are mad that more people are coming.
You can't call if Joshua Tree and not protect the actual tree. Why is this even a vote?
Well... in Montana they still call it "Glacier National Park" even though all of the glaciers are melting...
@@kinkle_Z You got a point. 😬
We are going to do what we have done everywhere !!! Destroy It !!! That's all we do to this earth !!! Destroy destroy destroy !!!
That flamboyant "Realtor" hasn't been here for more than 2 years... he relocated here... probably a Black Rock, Wall St. agent.
My hometown. Sad to hear.
At least it doesn't get hot there!!!
Thanks so much for this report Kacey! Local housing, camping, and lodging, etc., taxes must be employed to ensure there are funds to protect this natural jewel.
“Not enough hotels and restaurants” lol. That sucks your in the desert.
Disgusting
Amen! I have lived here 35 years and its been destroyed.
I’m sorry :/
In what way? I've heard it's in a flood zone and then I heard there's a drought there. I'm confused 😕
honestly as a camper the desert is the last place I ever want to camp at. I don't see the appeal of Joshua Tree.
UFO's my guy especially at the JTNP
@@ernburn9092 wait till they find a skin walker pass by. They'll sell that home instantly.
People get murdered and go missing there :( I also dont see the appeal of living there. Too hot. Too dry. Too sunny.
@Jaywalk Z You guys over there in California know about skinwalkers?
@@TasmanianWolves We even have this thing called the Yucca man
I lived in Joshua Tree, Yucca Valley and 29 Palms the early 1980's. I was in the military. At that time, there was almost nothing there. 29 Palms was the smallest of the 3 towns, and it didn't even have a McDonalds. My wife and l fell in love with the desert, but never went back. l miss the area, but wouldn't go back now. Too expensive, too many people, and water will be next on their list of problems.
Thank you for your service! 🇺🇸🗽
@@jonmacdonald5345 You are very welcome. Thank you for that!
You should have relocated and bought property in 2010-2013 - bottom of the collapse... a $35K investment then... would have yielded a $500K return now. I messaged all my family and old friends insisting they invest! They didn't believe me. Too bad for them! Oh well.
MEHH! Theres nothing to see there but dirt and dry trees
You are SO RIGHT!! Stay away!!!!
Nothing stops progress, not even nature.
You mean nothing stops destruction of this earth !!!
Destroying nature is the opposite of progress
@@superdivemaster BINGO! People who call destruction "Progress" turn my stomach!
The desert is unforgiving! So are the people
They tell you not to do something, so that they can go and do it.
Don Henley said it best "You call some place paradise, kiss it goodbye"
Loads of tweekers there
We all fought that Autocamp - and then you go and highlight it??? Do some research before off the cuff stories.
I was horrified at Dollar General... (catty corner across 62 from me) fought it tooth and nail and financially supported all efforts to stop it... then effing "AutoCamp" coming several years behind it... god... I feel your pain. It's like trying to stop a flood that cannot be stopped. However, it's 0422 right now Sunday morning and Hwy 62 is still quiet. I'm enjoying what peace and quiet we have left here for as long as I can enjoy it. Peace Cindy...💕
Living in California too much taxes, I would move but I refuse because of taxes. Maybe in another lifetime
I only go once a year to do some psychedelics in the desert but I take nothing with me so that I won’t leave any trash. I pay my respect to nature & the gods and then just leave how it is
Thank you for keeping it clean, I’d do the same!
LEAVE NO TRACE... thank you...
Weirdo 😂😂
@@yumyumkitty2104 you’re like almost 30 calling yourself yum yum kitty. Yeah, I’m the weirdo 🙄
Where's the longtime locals? The glamping entrepreneurs that have been there 2 years?
For realz, I'd gladly interview with KTLA if they want an actual 29 year local to speak for the community
Hate to see JT ruined like this.
Pray to god that the Joshua Tree is maintained as an endangered species. That's the only thing saving this precious area from destructive development... that and our endangered gorgeous desert tortoise. Of course, my beautiful California horned toads, that were so numerous when I was growing up, are now long since extinct by habitat destruction/encroachment, hyper-development, end-stage capitalism.
Everyone boycott nightly rental homes nationwide. It's a real problem everywhere.
As a person with an Air BB here, I only rent from locals in other towns with Air BB on their own property. Mine is in one end of the actual house I live in. Of course, it has been shut down since COVID. STR started as a way for people to supplement their income - we made our's when my husband retired to help make up some of the lost income. STR should not be an "industry" just for profit and permits should not be given to those who aren't owner occupied, or at least lived in for a series of years.
Restrictions will only serve to further increase the prices!
The lack of restriction has obviously increased the prices in Joshua Tree that will have permanent negative effects on the local economy. Average locals can't even afford to buy food at the local restaurants anymore, if they can manage to get in. As well people can't find places to live unless they want to have several roommates. These things could be helping the community much better if Joshua Tree was an incorporated town able to enact its own regulations and taxation.
Live in a nice and inviting area 2 hours from Los Angeles. Only a matter of time.
You think palm springs wasn't saying the same thing 40 years ago?? Inevitable
When your local government failed to put in laws to keep the locals around 🤣😂
What about the water 💧 needs for everyone that's living there. California has a water shortage now we do need more homes plus water put on the ground to work homes.
no water there folks
People need to respect the parks and keep them clean and looking beautiful I don't think People should live near the park so they don't ruin it...with their garbage..they need to protect the parks
I'm glad to see the circumstances and major concerns in my home town are being broadcast. The needs of the locals have been ignored over the past 10 years as tourism has boomed here. Unless a resident has been able to sell property for a 400% profit or took out equity to make their property a STR, the economic growth from tourism are not being felt by average residents.
Are there town hall meetings? I'm sure the locals outnumber them and the tourism board greatly. Has anyone tried to organize all the like minded locals to approach city council? I lived there and worked as a ranger about 8 years ago. I'm in Sedona now but I'm planning on coming back to Jtree. I watched the same thing happen to Bend, Oregon and Bozeman,Montana. I lived in a small town called Sisters in oregon and they fought HARD to keep it small town and won. I'd love to get involved if i could. One thing id start with is looking at how many people that sit on the board are from Larger cities or were born and raised in Jtree.
@Tony Fourpaws There used to be a Municipal Advisory Coucil for the Morongo Basin but it was dissolved last year because San Bernadino Board of Supervisors did not renew it. All policy decisions for Joshua Tree and the other unincorporated municipalities are ultimately made by the Board of Supervisors. The major advocacy group that helps to speak for the locals here is the Morongo Basin Conservation Association and they have done a great job in conjuction with some other smaller groups. Some significant changes were made after the moratorium back in June of 2022 but in my opinion it's a situation of being too little too late. We'll see what this potential recession does to the community here but I suspect a lot of foreclosed properties to happen which will only put more pressure on the poorer locals.
Worked on a house out here, great calm open area !
Ugh, so sad to see this. Soon there will be no solitude anywhere, just the noise and clamor of tourists.
Development is not a synonym for progress.
I the middle of June 😮💨😮💨 that was the big hint for me 😂
huh?
I live here. I'm here for the nature and hiking, but find Joshua tree to be one of the most overrated places I have ever been. It's another example of sheep following the flock. A bunch of undesirable hipsters who don't know Jack about Jack and disrespectful tourists.
Yeah this is wild
Just please make it illegal for these new homes and rentals to have light pollution.
So thankful I moved out of there in 2019!
Where did you relocate Christina?
@@kinkle_Z I was getting ready to ask the same thing.
Why tho?
But but but.... Its the desert 🏜️ people aren't supposed to live in the desert. I'd always be too worried about water.
Can’t believe people are vacationing here.
Remember profit means not giving back
They call it a desert vibe but what it really is is aging infrastructure and being one of the poorest areas in California. That's where it needs to get modernized and there needs to be a enough money going back into the communities. Good luck with that.
You’re talking about Nashville getting ran over with stupid people but what about in your own backyard?
Well, with property taxes that were $800/yr when I moved here in 2006 now skyrocketing to $60,000/yr, seems like "infrastructure" will be a no-brainer.
@@kinkle_Z the only problem is the no brainer local hillbillies who don't know any better and the joke of a town council just grifting money like the rest of them. God help this little Mayberry town.
SORRY NATURE. SORRY TREES. SORRY ANIMALS. CAPITALISM IS MORE IMPORTANT. EXTINCTION IS OUR FATE. SCHMUCKS. CALIFORNIA LOVE 😎🎭✌
As Rosa Luxemburg said - "SOCIALISM OR BARBARISM"...! revolution is the MAIN TREND in the world today!
He’s found a come up. But watch it’ll all crash soon. It’ll be WILD!!!
Leave Joshua tree alone people 👍
The tent guy thinks his for profit development is fine, but everyone else's isn't... Maybe we could go back to building houses for people to live in??? Crazy idea I know, it would never work....
Oh no 🙄
I don't get it. What is it that attracts people to it; am I missing something?
3 words - IT'S NOT L.A. You're welcome.
@@kinkle_Z thank you that gave me a good laugh
U2
Leave national parks alone god i hate this state sometimes
developers are ruining our planet
Not smart to have more development in deserts. When will we learn?
The tortoise gon go extinct 🥲
Water???????????????????????????????????????????????
This make me so mad.
I own a home in Joshua tree, in the Village. We are not airbnbing we are planning to rent it for a reasonable price. No more than $2800 per month for our 1600sq foot 2 bedroom two bath. We just want reliable tenants, and we don't price gouge. ; )
2800 for a two bedroom 🤡
@@LC-xd2zy exactly
I own a 2/2 1200+ sq ft village home (since 2012) - 3 min. walk to the Saloon. I pay about $300/mo for utilities, insurance, taxes, etc. Wow... hard for me to even imagine paying $2800! WOW! Speechless. That's like $1000 more than I paid for a brand new view condo in downtown center city (4th and J St.) overlooking the HARBOR in San Diego across from the Convention Center in 2004! My last roommate here in JT (circa 2015) living in my ensuite bed/bath paid me $300/mo and did some light maintenance. Times have certainly changed!!! If $2800 isn't "price gouging" then JEEZ - I don't know what is?!
Nice
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I just don't understand why people are drawn to Joshua Tree.
Can somebody please explain it to me.
There's a blonde realtor here in YT who describes what attracts ppl: it's peaceful, they have several music festivals, a lot of artists and free spirits live there, an acreage of land is affordable, it's cheaper than the rest of CA, hiking, biking, beautiful mountains, etc.
I think her channel is called JT Vibes or something.
@@yumyumkitty2104
Thanks for your reply. 😊
@@Cali_Girl1 YW. Plus, I would love to see all the celebs at Coachella, especially Shawn Mendes. 🤣🤣
Joshua Trees. And they aren't endangered. I have five acre parcel with tons of them on it which means I can't build anything
@@rareroots Is the internet spotty out there? Are there rattlesnakes?
I bought my village home in JT in 2009-2012 for $35K cash from a friend, now Zillow-valued at $385K -$521K. This is NOT doubling! This is TIMES TEN!! The moment anyone can offer me $500K NET in my pocket to walk away, I will be relocating to Sete, France. So make me an offer! BTW... born in San Diego and wandered from there... relocated to San Francisco and gentrified out of there, then to Boston... gentrified out of there... then NYC... gentrified out of there... then Chicago and Rowayton, CT... gentrified out of there, then Philly, gentrified out of there, then back to San Diego, gentrified out of there, then Joshua Tree and being gentrified out of here. I can't take it!
Poor baby. Sell and get out.
Sounds like you are the problem 😂
How cares it’s the desert 🌵
How cares? Who is "HOW"?
It's great tourists are coming to the hi desert..why they got money.
Which is good for the local economies.
Revenue for local governments.
Investors, but environmentalists will also be here, which will protect this beauty of a place.
Wrong
Californians be trashing this area also .
I'm supposed to, feel bad?
Pandemic did that
This is why we can't have nice things. Why do humans just destroy everything they touch? Especially when there are $$igns attached to it.
🔥
Tommy made Joshua tree
All because of Home Made Modern channel.
What's there to do? .......it's the desert.
@Wildlife Warrior not after al the ppl moving there are done with it.
@TNerd I see.
The beautiful starry nights, possible aliens, JT music festivals, affordable homes on an acre of land, hiking, biking, JT National Park, celebs are moving there, artsy/fun folks live there, up and coming area, unique homes like The Mirror House are there, etc
I also think it's near Route 66. I wish they would revamp that area. That would be fkn cool!
@@yumyumkitty2104 bihhh you don’t even know. You watch one CZcams video about this place & now you wanna buy your own spot & ruin JT
The locals dont want you out there they are afraid you may find a body.
Joshua Tree needs a hotel within the park, like every other major NP. the cost of homes due to abnb is a slap in the face to those who live here.
Ruined
At the end of times, when Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) comes back for the 2nd time, the Jews will hide behind each rocks & trees so that Jesus will not see them.
All the rocks & trees will call out to Jesus telling him that behind them hides a Jew. All trees will help Jesus except the Joshua tree. You have been warned.
What makes you think that, especially when trees can't even talk?
@@TasmanianWolves nature speaks more than you ever will
Joshua Tree named so by the Mormon settlers that traveled out to Southern California to establish their churches. Part of the Christian foundation and identity of Los Angeles and it’s historical legacy of people coming out here to worship Christ.
Uh, no. It is part of the Indigenous landscape - then miners and homesteaders. The mormons did come through, but there is NO "christian" legacy in the area at all. Please.
@@cindyzacks9256 Oh just like a leftist always trying to change history to fit their racist leftist propaganda. Are you from Southern California? Are you born and raised in L.A.? Did you go to school here? Joshua Tree…was named so by the Mormon missionaries, coming through the desert on their way to Los Angeles. The Trees reminded them of The lost Israelites roaming in the desert. One tree in particular looked like Joshua raising his hands up praying to God. That’s why the trees are called the Joshua trees. And whether you like it or not, or agree or not, Southern California especially Los Angeles, is the city who’s identity is rooted in Jesus Christ. Why else would Southern California have more Bible colleges and theological seminaries than the rest of the country put together?? Are you from New York? You really need to look into the church history of Southern California and understand why people came out here.
Yawn... ok
@@kinkle_Z If you’re not born and raised in Southern California…shut the hell up. There’s a reason it’s called The City of Angels. Respect my city’s history.
@@cindyzacks9256 Considering that most early immigrants and settlers in California were Christians of various denominations, it would seem there would be a historical legacy of one sort or another. Mormons settlers who crossed through the Mojave are accredited for calling the yucca palm the "Joshua Tree" from a biblical figure, so in this case, the name in itself is a legacy. I don't know why the idea would be so offensive...it's just a part of the history.
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These small players need to just let the big boys develop ... locals need to goo
There gonna ruin the night sky to see the starts