2022 BMW R NineT | The ultimate retro weapon!
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- 2022 BMW R NineT | The ultimate retro weapon!
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Like the idea of this!
Picking mine up tomorrow in this same co,our and spec, just love it! Will be fitting Sizzapp asap. Thanks, best review of RNineT on CZcams…….
I drove the R90 Scrambler all the way from Berlin to Florence - It is my 1st bike. Just got the driving license this year at the age of 48.
Friend of mine is a BMW fan boy....drives a R1200RS. Dealer gave him one of these whilst his was back under warranty being repaired. He absolutely hated it ......just shows how peoples opinions differ. Ive got a honda CB1300s..a big lump too but love it.
The best motorcycle in this class.
The Z900RS SE would like a word. BMW just recycles old parts with these bikes and overprice them to oblivion. Imagine paying 15-20 grand for a bike with no fuel gauge.
Without a doubt!
Triumph street triple rs way better
@@user-sw4go6vc5s Bro how the fuck is the bugeyed Striple a retro motorcycle, ya blind?
Mv agusta dragster 800rr buddy.
Glad to see that bmw still makes one of the best looking retro bikes. Nowadays at where i live, it's becoming quite rare to see retro bikes. But whenever there's a retro bike on the street, it immediately catches everyone's attention. I love retro motorcycles 😆.
Your lucky to find any bike that’s desirable where I live. If you do find a bike like this it’ll most likely be used and marked up over what a new one costs lol. I love 2022, anyone who thinks this is how it’s always been needs to get out of the basement and turn cnn/bbc off.
Great review, love seeing people enjoying these. I’ve had mine a year now and still love it. The rear suspension does become too buzzy after a while so I swapped mine out for a Wilbers and it makes all the difference, much more planted and becomes a true weapon.
On my third R NineT a 2022 719 Aluminium (it has all the optional extras you could ask for) , it is beautiful , a worthly replacement for my second R NineT 719 Club Sport edition with the vintage paint scheme. my other R NineT bought in 2015 was the original standard (loved this). yes for me it is the ultimate retro motorcycle on the market
Had my suspension set up by a specialist at a track day and completely transformed the bike. Good review Buddy 👍
I took one out for a few hours whilst my GSA was in at BMW. Same as you Dan - smiling all the way. Love it.
This is an absolutely stunning bike! Nice review, cheers!
@EnglishBikerDan, missed you again! Looks and sounds amazing - great review, thank you!
Great enthusiastic review Dan. I love the look of these bikes and would love one as a second bike if I could afford one. Will have to get a test ride one day.
I love the R9T. I test rode one whilst my bike was in for a service. A very enjoyable ride was had. I found it a tad lumpy at low revs like at junctions & entering roundabouts etc bike the bike overall was very addictive. On the list for when the time comes for the change.
I have a 21 model standard just finished 15,000 miles it just keeps running better very happy with my purchase
One of the best Retros for sure and I rate it even with Triumph Thruxton R or now the RS. I had an overlap of the two for over two years. Similarities for sure mission wise but the approaches are different enough to justify owning both.
Hi Dan. Thanks for the review. I have a 9T in similar spec. On your negatives I also found the suspension very hard initially but adjusting the damping front and rear to the softest setting made everything noticeably softer so you can soften it off a fair bit. A lot of reviewers mention the lack of fuel gauge. It’s a bit annoying but maybe It was left off to go with the retro vibe. I use the trip meter as a fuel gauge by zeroing it after each fill which seems to work ok. You also get a low fuel warning light. PS I don’t think you got to your third negative !
I remember back in the day (mid 80s) not having a fuel gauge. I just used to fill up at the end of every ride. It wasn't a problem then and I doubt it'll be a problem now
I'm a fan of the RnineT and I've never ridden a boxer twin lol
I love the minimal looks and the idea of all the torque on tap.
I bought this exact bike a month ago. Weather is keeping me off of it, but a few hundred miles so far
Unit Garage seat, side luggage and top luggage rack. I don't think the seat is too much more comfortable, but looks good :)
Rizoma Reverse Radial bar end mirrors really help with visibility
Stunning bike!😍 Really enjoyed the review
Thanks Freddie!
I saw this motorcycle with the all Brushed Aluminum look and was fixated on it. It had a very industrial look to it that represented the last century rather than a decade.
Maybe this can be an addition to my z900rs Cafe
You are the 4th blogger in a row attributing the torque reaction to piston movements. Pistons are actually very light as they are a reciprocating mass. The reaction comes from the crankshaft, which is the opposite ie heavy and rotating. When blipping the throttle, crankshaft inertia makes the bike kick in the opposite direction of rotation.
As a result of your review, I’m seriously considering one of these 😁
Haha, this is why I'm a vlogger and not an engineer! Thanks for the info though, I understand it correctly now! :)
@@Englishbikerdan love your reviews so keep them coming!
Plus it's a boxer: each conrod has its own crankpin located 180° from the other, allowing the two pistons to reciprocate in opposite directions and cancel each other's acceleration.
The engine of the NineT has a counter balance shaft.
Crankshaft weight: 5.360 kg, conrod: 0.583 kg, piston weight: 0.572 kg
Best looking retro bike for sure
This is my dream bike; the craftsmanship is sublime and it’s a gorgeous looking bike with modern performance standards.
Glad to see a video from you Dan. Hope you have been ok mate. Love the BMW. Looks awesome and sounds lovely. I am with you on the fuel gauge. Every bike needs one just to make things easier.
Good all rounder though. Not a bad price either to be fair 👍🏻
Thanks Dan, all good here just been busy with the day job for a while! Hopefully things should be calmer now. Definitely needs a fuel gauge!
I had a 2015 model, absolutely loved it! At the time I wanted cruise control, so got a Yamaha MT09 SP - Then they launched the nine t with cruise control. I will return to owning one again, hands down best bike I've owned
I thought the R Nine T was hipster nonsense until I was given one as a courtesy bike. Best thing I've ridden in years. Laugh out loud, taking big gulps of air because you're flooded with adrenaline scratching fun.
I had the same preconceived notions too. So glad got to ride one. 👌
I have the Classic and Pure model. Love the bikes and the ability to customise and personalise. My only seroius gripe are spoked wheels are a drag when you get a puncture and zerp protection in the wet.
Great review & as a fellow R9T owner (2021 model) agree with all your comments. I did however only count 2 dislikes at the end but imagine the 3rd was probably the uncomfortable seat.
Overall a brilliant machine & with a new seat on its way I’ll enjoy riding it even more.
this an absolute beauty. I really like it"s design language very much.
Great review! After a couple test rides I, too, was smitten. Mine arrives in a couple of weeks - I wait impatiently 😀
Thanks Tim, hope you enjoy as much as I did!
Same here….
Hi Dan, I love these. I road tested one earlier this year and was so tempted to go for it. They look stunning and the one I was going to buy had loads of Option 719 bits on. The attention to detail is superb. The only thing I didn’t like was that torque reaction when revving it, and also a weird ‘shimmy’ on down shifts. Did you notice that? I agree that the lack of a fuel gauge is a bit annoying but it wouldn’t stop me buying one. Unfortunately I don’t have a BMW dealer within an hour’s drive from where I live and that doesn’t fit with my busy working life, but I think I could go for one at some point. Keep up the great work 👍
Love the RnineT. Test rode one a few months ago and it was fab. If I had £15K lying around I’d get one. Sadly, budget constraints mean it’s not likely to happen. Agree about the silly omission of a fuel gauge.
Great review 👍what a great looking bike , I love the engine breaking with the boxer , so easy to ride but it could do with a quick shifter .
Thanks Paul. 👍
Great looking bikes
Sooo happy to see that you reviewed this one. It's my favourite looking bike on the market. However, the 6000 mile valve clearance intervals always puts me off? Especially knowing the absurd prices that BMW charges if you have to take it to the dealer.
Probably super easy to do yourself? I know Moto Guzzi has a 6k valve clearance check as well but you can do it yourself quickly with just basic tools and shims
I can tell you from ownership that the 6k checks are absolutely NOT needed. Just like the first 600 mile check, it's simply to make sure everything is fine, a "lemon check" as I call it.
Valves don't ACTUALLY need adjustment until an avg of 24k miles.
Great review! This is a big contender for my next bike. …on another note, tell me about that jacket in the video. Who makes it? Cheers.
Definitely my favourite retro!
You kids nowadays 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Own a 2017 pure version.
They only this it needs is a gear shift indicator and rear hugger which should be standard equipment in my opinion.
Plus always be conscious it’s a 1200 twin with no slipper clutch.Hence engine break is pretty good/bad!
Yes! Have been waiting for this!
I bought a new one of these in 2018 , top of range standard model as it’s called , bought it in April & traded it in October, shortest lived new bike I’ve ever owned due to knocking sounds in the front suspension going over small bumps , Bmw replaced the front end at 3500 kms & it was perfect again until I got to 7,200 kms & it happened again so I had enough of it & got rid , I was raging at the time because I actually liked the bike, I had to video the problem on my phone to show Bmw & they agreed the first time , second time they weren’t so happy & just gave me a good trade in price on it for a new s1000r sport instead & they held it for a few months before Registering it the following January which was descent enough of them I thought at the time
Awesome NineT. The final phrase has become kind of mantra for me: _drive safe and had fun, otherwise, What is the point?_ Great review!
Thanks Juan! 😊
It’s a great review. I was thinking of upgrading my current Scrambler 900 Chrome in 2024. I was pondering a Speed Twin 1200, but I’m not seriously thinking about the R12nineT now. I just absolutely love the look of these machine. I won’t lie, I feel a little intimated with the boxer engine!!! Thanks for your review. 😊
It's so smooth that I don't think it would be an issue! Thanks for watching!
Dig it Mate!!!! Ride On
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Great review Dan 👍
I got to borrow one for a few hours and had very similar opinions as you did.
Pros: looks, engine, brakes (best I've ever experienced) comfortable riding position, handling is superb
Cons: hard seat (after 30mins I was looking to get off) mirrors are terrible (couldn't see a thing) no fuel gauge, price
I was left very impressed yet also a little disappointed. It was almost perfect.
Thanks for watching Colin. 👍
Definitely has a spot on my top 5 garage next to the Diavel 🤤. That timeless design calls to me like a warm crispy apple crumble with custard. Also nice tracker by SizzApp. It would be good to see at some point a video dedicated to securing your bike or what kind of equipment you're currently using to keep it safe. 👍❤👌
Mmmm Diavel! 😍
@@Englishbikerdan can't wait till I get my hands on one. But until then, I think I'm speaking for the entirety of EBD subscribers, we need a Diavel Review! 😍
I tried it two weeks ago but I didn’t like it. I wanted to buy it but for the price I was expecting more. Like as you mentioned not all information like fuel or gear are visibility for the rider in pure or scrambler version. Also on scrambler I didn’t find it having a relax and nice handling, maybe because I tried Triumph and it was much easier to ride and easy handling. Yes the engine is fun but very vibrating in high revs. For these reasons I decided to go with Triumph.
My 2012 twin cam GS has the same motor , anti dive telelever forks with better Electric suspension adjust = ESA and a more comfortable seat , 55 mpg while thrashing it around the back roads of Kent . Then i can put the panniers on and go around Europe or even the world if i want to , so that makes it perfect . Well not quite it doesn`t look as nice as the R9T . But then you can argue its not as knickable which is a good thing .
Top 3 retro bike absolutely stunning for lovers of air/oil cooled boxer engine. Personally I love that engine and really dislike the soulless water cooled appliance.
This is the bike to own from range because it is fitted with top quality suspension, unlike other models in the range which have front forks that sinnis wouldn't fit.
Odd how the air/oil cooled r1200r with telelever suspension was probably better then all this new retro range but never sold.
Thanks for review.
13:30 It says BMW branded, but if you look under the caliper on the mounting plate or backside, most likely it will state Brembo. The R1150 front calipers state Nissin on the backside and Brembo on the rear although both say BMW on the front side.
the only one i don't like is the RT witch kinda looks like a spaceship, the fairing around the front fork is massively big.
Love it😎🏍️
I was randomly going through this app we have in India and found this gem and it instantly became my "dream" bike.. so as a normal person, I searched for reviews and all on YT and ended up on your video! I absolutely love the design of the bike and hopefully, someday, I'll buy it
Hey Dan! How does this comapare size and wieght-wise versus the SV650? I'm guessing a bit more bulky at least.
I have a 2019 SV, and the R NineT is one of the top 3 bikes I could see myself upgrading to in the future :)
I've got an sv and my dad has an r nine t, even though on paper the r nine t is a bit of a lump, it really doesn't feel it when moving it around or riding because of the low c of g. I'm sure you'd notice it if you dropped it though!
How can it not come with a fuel gauge? Madness.
What’s for?
Hi Dan! Great vid. Pick one SV650 or RNineT?
Thank you! Well, I already picked the SV. :D
That R9 boxer has more in common with the aircraft or vespa in the background opening of this video than anyone would like to admit. 😂
Imagine a 1200cc Vespa. I'd give that a go! 😂
15:17 for a second i thought the texture of the world wasnt loading in and the mirror stands were phasing through his hand. But then it was probably the camera effect he is using. I almost had a heart attack lmfao
Thanks Dan, so this or the Speed Twin ? both look good to me and thats important, but which one sounds better with stock exhaust ?
Hey David, tough call. I think for me I'd go for the R Nine T. Just as I think it handles a bit better and I really enjoy the nature of the boxer engine. Both awesome bikes though! Sound is subjective really as the engine types make them sound quite different. However, stock pipes I'd say the Speed Twin sounds better. Deeper and meaner. Cheers!
@@Englishbikerdan Where in the handling do you think the Speed Twin falls short? Anything that can be done to improve the handling and close the gap?
Dream bike
The bikes are stunning to look at. Seeing them parked is quite amazing. The finish on them is the best I've seen from any brand. But........do you think they might be a little overpriced for what they offer? I suppose if you want an air cooled bike, then you don't have that many, premium, options (apart from US cruiser behemoths). I think I'd choose to pick a second hand one up - if I felt the need. They're too costly for what they offer new. Triumph Speed Twin?
I think price is subjective, and to be honest the boxer engine offers something similar bikes in the category don't have. Just my opinion mind.
Hi Clive, in my case, I felt a bit like you and only allowed myself to buy a second hand Urban GS 1.5 yrs ago, a 2018 model E4 with 11k km. I have since put another 11k on it, and I could not be happier. The bike feels and looks as new if I keep it clean, and the engine is good for at least 100k if maintained regularly (so far all done myself). Indeed a bit too expensive new, but in case properly used, has great value and I would expect that it keeps that for many years to come. (Personal view: people who complain about fuel gauge or missing quick shifter may look at the wrong segment, but just my 2c)
Comfortable for long rides? Does the engine overheat during hot rides?
Hello mate,may I ask what chin mount are you using?
Thanks
These Nines really look good, great review. I just can't get passed the noise of the boxer engine. I think I might be in the minority with that!
Haha yeah, they are an acquired taste for sure! Thanks for watching!
Love the sound, yes I do.
Good bike, but I prefer thge Urban G/S. Enjoyable.
Tks. much.
Hi, can anyone tell me all the changes that BMW has made to the NineT in 2023 compared to the 2016? Or can you show me where to collect the informations? Thanks!
Hi Dan. About to pull the trigger on one of these, in the same colour in fact. Any final thoughts on the bike that are negative?
Buying the exact same livery tomorrow. Can’t sleep. Tried it in Montpellier when I was broke. But time takes time…
@@fabiancharbonnier
It’s very quiet stock, I put a slash pipe Pro-Race can on. It has a real bark when I fire it up but not too loud.
Good luck and enjoy the boxer rocking 👍
I think the only negative for me is the tubed tyres, otherwise, I'd have it in a heartbeat.
Hi. Thanks for your review. I own Urban GS . In 10 months I’ve done over 7000 miles it is absolutely lovely bike great for weekend ride and every day use. Fuel gauge shouldn’t be a problem, as soon as you reach reserve level you have mileage countdown and flashing warning light . You can make around 20 miles on reserve. Thank you
How do you rate the BMW R Nine T compared to the Harley Low Rider S, which you seemed to really enjoy when you rode it?
Very different bikes so hard to compare them side by side.
Ah the BMW boxer .. a masterclass in making a bike engine way wider than necessary 🤣
Haha, I dunno. These things handle like you wouldn't believe! Genius design. Plus they keep your feet warm in winter. 😂
It's a DOHC engine, 2 x 2 camshafts, unlike the R18.
Based on the R75 made in the 40ties of last century and even earlier.
Almost bought one these this summer, great bike with really nice design. The problem with them are as you said the suspension and the seat. Even in the softest setting the suspension is to hard and rattely and the seat was killing me after 90 minutes of riding. You really start to feel the frame of the seat on the inside of your thighs. I tried the Scrambler version also. It has i bit better suspension, due to longer travel, but the same crappy seat. If I was to get one of these I would go for the Scrambler or the Urban GS, due to the better suspension and hope that Wonderlich makes a good replacement seat.
Whassup w/ your rear view mirrors?
Nice review, I do like the look of this bike. Must say after paying for CZcams premium to get rid of ads, the in video promotions grate a little. Sorry. Still enjoy the vids.
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So is a shaft drive supposed to last much longer? I guess it’s protected from road grime too… I guess it never needs to be changed.
It's certainly better for short term maintenance, as it's a sealed unit and doesn't need adjustment like a chain would. Long term I'm unsure as I'm sure shaft drives would need maintenance of some kind as the miles rack up. Then there's also the question of efficiency and transmission losses, but I'd have to look into that more.
Shaft drive bikes would have about 25 percent more power if they had a chain instead, but no chain maintenance makes it worth the trade off for a lot of people. Instead of cleaning and lubing a chain every 500 miles, you only have to replace the final drive oil once every other year.
Sold a diavel to buy one. I was like far out, this things a gutless wonder. At least the cops dont eyeball me now.
It’s a nice looking bike. Fuel gauge? You’ve gone soft, don’t need one 😉
Just because your old heap doesn't have one! :D
@@Englishbikerdan old? You mean classic
1:30 for advertising is wild!!
It was 60 secs. Pretty standard for an ad slot on YT.
No fuel gauge “you havin a laugh”
This or xsr 900?
sweet.
This bike is such a piece of art. But it's soo expensive.
This or the Kawasaki Z900RS SE model Dan?
I've not ridden any Kawasaki's lately, so I can't comment.
Hey Dan, which bike do you think is better between R nineT and triumph speed twin? Also, if anyone else has any opinion, please comment thank you
Both great, just different.
Not a BMW fan but enjoyed the review. A bit hard, firm, clunky and then there's the build quality issue.
30 thousand miles on mine. No issues😉
I'm thinking about getting an R9T. I've just changed jobs, winter's coming, probably April next year. But I've changed jobs with a near £30,000 a year pay increase so I'll easily be able to afford a top spec model.
would go well with a 'brick phone'!
Don't forget your padded shoulders! 😁
And flared jeans
Have u seen it in person? It looks weird
No I've not seen one in person. 😊
@@Englishbikerdan not u. Talking to others, bmw styling is not great on a lot thier bikes imo
@@youngboomerragevictim8857 I know, I'm just being silly. :)
A retro cafe bikini fairing would look cool on that bike.
Sometimes you sounded like "Mat Watson here from carwow"
But we have totally different accents! 😅
@@Englishbikerdan ❤️
You only said 2 things you don’t like 😂 and the fuel gauge i don’t see the need? Reset trip to zero after filling up and you get the reserve light wich gives you 50kms range. Some harleys, hondas, ducatis… don’t have a fuel gauge
The fuel gauge is a weird omission, considering everything else the dash shows you.
@@Englishbikerdan this is true, i guess it feels more retro.
It's not a bad looking bike ( at all ).but it's far from a retro bike IMHO... modern retro maybe,just because a bike has a round single headlight doesn't make it retro 😅
Retro doesn't have to mean old, it also refers to modern design philosophy. It's made to look like an older bike, so that's retro in my book. That and it's in the BMW Heritage lineup.
I wanted one , they look really nice but I can’t get over the ergonomics , your legs are almost sports bike with an upright torso , very uncomfortable
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I think like a German engineer.
I don't get the problem of no fuel gauge - Trip odometer and reserve is enough.
Lack of gear indicator is a nonsensical complaint - Once you've learned the shift points it's useless.
Engine temp and oil pressure - that's all you need.
Your eyes belong on the road, not your gauges. Ride the RPM that feels right and the speed that feels safe. Everything else is a distraction.
Of course you don't need any of it, I learnt on bikes that had nothing and have owned bikes without electric starters. However, we've moved on and so have bikes. At this price you do start to expect these things from modern motorcycles.
@@Englishbikerdan 💯
How is it "retro"? It looks like a spaceship.
It's a retro styled bike, if you have eyes at least. 😁
Of course I have eyes, obviously. I can see how ugly it is.
I would like this design if it didn't have a boxer engine.
Plenty of those bikes about.
Stick to my Suzuki gsxr1000r for now.
I'll be 70 in 10 years time.Maybe then.
the Kawasaki Z900r is simply the best retro bar none.
I'd love to agree or at least have an opinion on that one. :(
Great bike, but it’s a rip off. And the shaft has its own set of tantrums when you owe it for over a year.