Ireland's Forced Adoptions | ARTE.tv Documentary
Vložit
- čas přidán 10. 08. 2023
- In Ireland, being a single mother was long frowned upon. In this very Catholic country, more than 50,000 women were placed in homes for single mothers, where their babies were taken away from them and given up for adoption. Many of these children are now looking for their biological mothers and are fighting to have their ordeal recognised.
Ireland's Forced Adoptions | ARTE.tv Documentary
🗓 Available until the 13/06/2024
ARTE.tv Documentary is here to tell you more about what’s going on in the world of culture, news and current affairs with powerful, refreshing and entertaining docs subtitled in English for our international fans.
Discover a whole world on #ARTE.tv
#documentary #artetvdocumentary #ireland
WATCH NEXT 👉 czcams.com/video/nn-VHPmeNMo/video.html / The Strangest Dream
You know about #Oppenheimer, but have you heard of Joseph Rotblat - the only scientist to leave the Manhattan Project in Los Alamos to build the atomic bomb?
I'd love to see you do a documentary on orphan trains. There's a museum here in Louisiana. We believe children were taken from other countries and brought here. Louisiana is mostly made up of Irish people. I think if there is something to find them you could find it.
We have forwarded your suggestion to our editorial team.
@@theoryofpersonality1420 qqqqaaAAgy
Charles Loring Brace devised the orphan grains to remove street children from New York City, I believe. It is known that they swept up healthy children with homes. There is at least one very hood documentary made in them, I thunk within the last 10 years. Search it out. Your Irish children may have come from New York or Bosto, the USA.
2
Catherine deserves a medal for all the time and effort she has put in to help make sure that we all know of the horrific going ons taking place in those mother and baby units. We should all remember what has happened in the past and remember the poor wee souls lying in a mass grave in Tuam. God bless them all.
We should all think about today and taking care of those who are left as orphans today, yesterday is gone/
We should remember history and work on what we can do today to help with those in need.
People always knew but they had no courage. I drove past the navan road home one day in the 70's and I remember my uncle telling how they sold children from that place.....same place I was adopted from. I think he might have been telling me without telling me if ya know what I mean?
@@Kev-son_of_kev they use to call adoptions selling
@@lhl9010 trafficking children is what they call it.
If single moms have committed a mortal sin, what about the fathers? Are the fathers not guilty?
MEN had control over the lives of women, and 'Eve' was blamed for everything, therefore men were always innocent???
Isn’t that the TRUTH 👍✔️.
It's a man's world and from the very beginning women have been the scapegoat.
Here here….I’m all for the abortion laws IF they first started a national penis registry and made the fathers take responsibility as well.
Many men were turned away from the mother and baby homes while being told that their girlfriends wanted nothing more to do with them. It worked both ways for the mothers and fathers who were denied the right to have a loving family. Stop blaming fathers, you are no better than the Catholic Church blaming the men!
They were not ‘unwanted’ children they were ‘not allowed ‘😢 Those poor Mothers had no choice..
You're right they wasn't allowed to bring babies home to their mum and dad they had no choice but go to one of these homes and leave when baby was adopted or whatever I lived near one of these homes in Castle pollard
As a retired Labor & Delivery nurse, I am appalled at the enormous high rate of “stillbirths”!!! I can only imagine the laboring mothers being left alone, with no pain relief, to deliver their babies unattended. These young mothers had no idea how to care for themselves, let alone a newborn. I suspect many of the babies were born alive but without care, died within moments of birth. And of course without baptism, the belief is that infant will live in eternal hell. Think about the guilt those mothers carried throughout their own lives.
This is disgusting.
If the babies died and were not in fact sold, they are in the arms of the angels now.
That was never the belief that they would live in eternal HELL, you obviously got your information from an ignorant source. What is disgusting is the spreading of LIES when one is assuming to know but has no clue!
Babies go to heaven regardless of baptism.
I grew up in the 1960's. The American Catholic Church taught( I went to the Catholic school) me that all unbaptized babies and children went into Limbo. After some time there and after a lot prayers had been said those babies and children would eventually go to heaven. This was very real for me as a child because Sharon Tate came from a good Catholic family and the nuns took us to the church next door to pray for her unborn baby's soul so he could go to heaven.
There is no hell. Fear not and trust in the one and only True God.
My great grandmother married on ship board on her way from Ireland to Boston, USA. Her husband deserted her as soon as they got off the ship. Luckily, her sister was with her. Catherine was put in an insane asylum for being pregnant while unwed! My grandmother was put in an orphanage. She saw her mother once when she was 11. Her mother was a sad shadow of a person, unresponsive.
The hand of the Irish church had reached across the ocean and ruined the life of a lovely lady and deprived her daughter of her mother.
It was totally evil!
Catherine Corless is an absolute hero. She never budged, kept working, collecting information, searching for answers. Meanwhile, in a time-honoured practice, church and state colluded to keep the silence. We can never thank Catherine enough for staying strong and stubborn in pursuit of the truth once she had discovered that this immense crime had been committed in cooperation of those who held most power. She has shown more compassion than the churches (turns out that it wasn't only the Catholic church, either) and those working in social work put together.
Sad what happened in old days in lreland sad to say parents kicked them out when they got pregnant so they went 😮tobaby homes no choice not ice that t
Some turned their backs on their kids and fathers to be fled many came to England.and never seen again I remember
She deserves some sort of award for her work!
I was adopted from Sean Ross Abbey in Tipperary Ireland by American parents. At 64, I’ve never had any contact or been able to find out what happened to my biological mother. I’m almost sure she had no choice ☘️💚🍃
My mother gave birth there in 1947 and stayed for six years. She never spoke of it , we knew nothing but she had a great sadness around her her whole life. She drank a lot in later life, trying to block the trauma she could not talk about. The church did so much harm to these poor girls and women. We found our brother after her death.
@@user-ig8fr5lx6b that’s amazing to hear 😊 I’m almost positive that my biological mom felt this way as well. Thank God you were able to locate your brother !!! I know we will all be reunited with our families, biological or not in eternity ☘️🕊️ HE never shuts a door without opening a window ! 💚 ( I struggled with alcohol/drugs for 40 years on and off. Sober again, I pray it never hits my lips again. One day at a time)
If you get a DNA kit it will give you a breakdown of cousins and maybe even halfbrothers and sisters or full.
And names so you can work out
❤
☘
I cannot imagine thinking a child as a product of sin and therefore worthy of abuse and neglect. It isn't even biblical. It's simply hateful.
How does this square with abortion?
@@salfromoregon4369 I don't understand the point of your question. Are you attempting to be clever and trap me? Do you think that I'm going to advocate for harming any child? Foolishness!
What about the parents/family of those "mum's??" USE YOUR BRAIN and think about that STOP these lies and slander !
@@mipbax9806 wow! Learn to extrapolate and not expect every facet to be spelled out.
It sure is Hatefulness 😂
What a blessing Paul must be to his adoptive mother. God bless him and give him peace
I'm an American Catholic and I do know from my mom (she's 80) that it was shameful to be an unwed mother in her time-no matter your background. One of my daughter's was a teen mom and our family had nothing but support from our church. It saddens me that so much suffering has been caused by religious. The result of clericalism.
The result of jansenist influence and masonic infiltration (Maynooth) into our Church and a lawless, corrupt "imported" or applied government and no legal protections for citizens.
I have to wonder how many of these babies had priests for fathers. I’ve watched other documentaries about people who were either taken away from their mothers and adopted out, or the mothers were relocated by the church to other countries, especially Australia.
Your mom is right - sadly times were different then
It was not b/c of “this very catholic nation”, this happened across the western world - being alone, having a “bastard” child caused great shame to the family. Same was in England, without any catholics there.
Not nuns, who in fact answered requests from grandparents or mothers, better or worse.
The true perpetrators were IRRESPONSIBLE FATHERS!
It wasn't about that females sin, it was used to make money,selling babies, and more money being made yet still.
So many nuns in so many countries committed so many unspeakable cruel acts against the most vulnerable over decades. And yet, not a single one was ever held accountable. They all died (or will die) believing in their righteousness no doubt. Same for a lot of monks. The Catholic Church has a lot to answer for and they still don't. Abusers are still protected to this day.
Yes and they say they follow Jesus they 32:18 are a bunch of liars he would never have behaved like then it disgusts me when people say they are Christian’s and behave like this !
Absolutely you know i had my first baby in hospital and i had married an Italian man who was slightly dark skinned so my little girl had the most gorgious dark hair and skin and right after a few hrs when i was back in the ward in bed this senior. Sister came up to me ( I’ll never forget it and said to me with an over bearing attitude Are You Married ?? ) it was 1965 and i looked up to her slightly confused but a bit annoyed and wonderd why the hell she wouldv asked me that I was actually getting a bit angry at the attitude of this over bearing woman and with indignation I looked at her and said curtly YES offcourse IAM and with that she took off and you know my italian husband was working at a construction site and couldnt get away straight away and when he was late turning up at the hospital He finnally did but another nurse came in to me and said well where is he and i remember thinking whats wrong with these nurses not thinking they mightv considered that they would take my baby and god knows where they wouldv taken her also she was such a beautiful and lovely looking baby it didnt strike me untill years later that babys were being taken away from their mothers for one reason or another and I started learning about these practices by the catholic church he was catholic but i wasnt and we married in the babtist church and then later i think i forgot actually but i think we went to a catholic church and got the blessings of a priest Iam now allmost 82 and my daughter is 58 this year in september but you know when i learned how many babys got taken the penny dropped that i knew that thats what those nurses had in mind And NO regard for these poor young mums or their grieving for their children i was actually so shocked and sickened and i was 24 but looked very young god and my daughter started nursing at the age of 18 and is still a dedicated nurse but i have never heard her talk about any incedent of taking children or babys away from their mothers in hospital thank god 💟☮️🕉️☸️💜🩵🍀🌻🌹🌈🌈☔️☔️🇳🇿🇳🇿🇲🇨🇲🇨🇺🇦🇺🇦🙏🙏🙏oohh and this was in Australia at the time funny enough she had her baby in the same hospital years later and she wasnt married at the time but there was no mention of anything like that happened to me she did have her partner though who she married later ❤😍🥰
I think they were selling babies, human trafficking as we call it today. The humanity is burdened by so many horrible events and caring a lot of traumas. We never learn, we keep carrying them to the next generations.
Reading this, asking myself who the actual sinners must have been, I think it must be the catholic church. The nuns must have felt so powerful, so entitled. I cannot help but thinking that some of them enjoyed treating the young mothers and babies with so much cruelty and destroy so many lives.
@cdeweijer12 They did, indeed. But I wouldn't stop myself only to the catholic church . They had the supreme power in the beginning, and they oppressed any nation that came on their path. I think of it sometimes as a different name for the roman empire , it transformed itself into the catholic church. Emperor Constantine as far as I know, killed his own son and wife, was no different from the others roman emperors. I was born in a christian orthodox country, Romania, mixed with Slavic influences as well as Byzantine, and today, all over the world, we see millions of so-called religions and beliefs, so I wouldn't blame only the catholics, there are good people among them and I met many of them as there are cruel people in all churches, beliefs, religions, countries all over the world. My biggest problem is the fear that one human wants to keep another human (animals as well) into and why we are still doing it, look at todays world , is hunger and war right away after a pandemic, we never learn. I see it as a mental disorder due to the way we were raised and continued to pass on to the next generations our traumas. I feel so sad for all the suffering humans endured in all times. But to look at the most helpless of all, babies and elders, is heartbreaking, they should be protected only. 😢
This actually sounds a lot like something that happened to my great aunt in a super Catholic Italian-American area of the states in the 60s or 70s. She got pregnant out of wedlock when she was 19 and my great grandma sent her to a monestary to have her son and then come back home and keep it a secret. My Nana said her mother kept saying things like "this is the worst thing you could have done to me" and my Nana said that always made her angry because there are so many worse thinga she could have done, saying that all she did was bring life into the world when she could have taken it instead. She spent years trying to track him down was she finally able to find him and meet him.
Yep, my sis got pregnant at 17. My mom took her to the priest and they made her get married or give up the baby. At least she had a choice in 1964 in the USA. But looking back and learning about this, I am done with the church. I knew they were full of it when they said I was born a sinner. And when they said my son would not go to heaven because he wasn't baptized. And when they told me practicing birth control was a sin. I am so angry about Ireland, about the native American so called schools, about the priests molesting children. 😢
Also when they came to Canada , they changed the children's name and Nationality .
The Nuns in Philomena sold the babies at 2k plus the mothers had to work for 2 years in harsh conditions to pay for their room and board . Many babies were in unmarked graves
Please state your resource when making these claims, so others can look them up, otherwise it is gossip, when repeating what someone else has said with no back up. Thanks
Yep, it’s the same orphanage I was adopted from in 1959. Born in 1958, but had to be over a year old to get adopted. Wonder why THAT was ?!?!
@@genevieverose931
Mother and baby home
A mother and baby home operated at Sean Ross from about 1932 to 1970. Babies born to unmarried girls in the home were put up for adoption, 487 of them in the United States, though the most common exit pathway for a child was to return to their mother or family (44%).[10] Although the number of babies born at Sean Ross declined rapidly in the 1950s, adoptions greatly increased due to the introduction of a legal process of adoption in 1953.[10] What records are available for Sean Ross adoptions are held by Child and Family Agency (TUSLA).[10] Martin Sixsmith's book, The Lost Child of Philomena Lee[11] and the film Philomena, based on it, concern the controversial adoption of Michael A. Hess, born Anthony Lee to Philomena Lee at Sean Ross Abbey in 1952.[12] The graves of an unknown number of mothers and babies are located in the unmarked area known as the Angels Plot.
In February 2018, the sisters put up for sale a large part of the campus, exclusive of St. Anne's school and the cemeteries, which will continue to be maintained by the congregation, and remain accessible.[13] On 27th July 2020, Journalist Alison O'Reilly, who broke the story of the Tuam Babies burial scandal in 2014, and Author of My Name is Bridget, the story of the Tuam Home, uncovered the names of the 1,024 children who died in Sean Ross Abbey. The story, was printed in the Irish Daily Star after the details were secured under the Freedom of Information Act. A total of 1,090 "illegitimate children" died in Sean Ross Abbey mother and baby home over a thirty-seven-year period The official death list, also revealed how 128 children died from "Marasmus" - meaning severe malnutrition. Other causes of deaths include convulsions and exhaustion, while two babies died from sun and heat stroke. One death certificate shows a child died from acute heart failure as a result of choking on porridge. The number of children's deaths in Sean Ross Abbey, is higher than the registered deaths in the Tuam mother and baby home where 796 children died, as well as the 817 in Bessborough in Cork. Historian Catherine Corless, who uncovered the names of the children who died in the Tuam home between 1925 and 1961 said: "This is horrifying. Those poor children, you wonder were they just putting down anything for causes of deaths, or did the children actually die this way? It seems that when a large group of children died, they said 'we'll put down cardiac arrest for those 15. It's appalling". The names of the children were displayed in the critically acclaimed Stay With Me art show, which is a group exhibition of an artist's response to the Tuam Babies story. The show can be found on CZcams.[14]
@@genevieverose931maybe you should look at the movie Philomena. It’s a true sorry of what happened to the character and her stolen son.
how about shame the men who rape those women into pregnancy or abandon them instead of marrying them? Why the f were they shamed and deprived of their choices
You're talking about a time very different to now. The choice would often be taken out of the hands of both the young mother and father. Back then, if a priest, a policeman or a doctor told you to do something, you did it without any question. A woman couldn't refuse or she'd be forcibly taken and the man might be shipped off to a foreign country by family (under the direction of the priest) if he objected. They had zero rights. Let's not go down the men-hate route, they were just as victimised as everyone else.
@blackcoffeee the men were sent off to slave labor? Beatings? Death? Doubt it. Men never and still don't have to take responsibility. Even now women don't report rape because they take the blame.
I wish Anna and PJ nothing but the best. I hope they are able to locate the family they seek ASAP. I’m blown away that there were no results linking PJ to anyone on his father’s side at all. I can’t imagine how hard this must have been for all the families involved.
These results get updated over time, hopefully someone on his father's side does a test and they can be put in touch.
As a woman who had to find better parents for her daughter, I REALLY want to HUG AND LOVE these poor kids.
I can't imagine having done a closed adoption, cutting my offspring off like a bud on a tree; not being accountable, and available to her so SHE doesn't have to feel abandoned like these. This is beyond the boundaries of The Beyond
The men were worse as they deserted the ladies left the woman all alone with no support
@@margaretpijnaker9922 Some of them didn't know about the pregnancies (or found out too late); some of them were told that their girlfriends wanted nothing to do with them anymore (the girlfriend didn't necessarily have a say in it); some tried to marry their pregnant girlfriends, but others intervened; some of them did sadly abandon their partners and children; some of them stuck by their girlfriends, grieved the loss of their children, married said girlfriends and went on to have more children with them. There have been stories of the now grown up children tracing their mother and finding that they're still with their father and that neither of them wanted the adoption.
Forced adoptions were cruel, but we shouldn't forget that each story had its own nuance and there were many victims of these mother and baby homes. We can condemn those who walked away or facilitated the abuse whilst also recognising those who tried to fight the system, even in a small way.
I was raised by the state in durban, South Africa from the age of 2. I am now 60 and I have only now learned the truth of the circumstances of my being placed in the welfare. I have answers finally but not relief because I learned that my mother neglected me and my siblings, who are older than me. She was never a mother to me and realising that has destroyed my ability to trust anyone.
life is full of choices, no matter what out beginnings were
I'm so sorry
I am so sorry for your loss💔
Can you imagine being rejected by the very person you’ve desired love from your entire life? Oh my heart is💔 for all these people.
It's absolutely abhorrent what happened to these people and amounts to abuse in my book. I don't care what your beliefs are, kindness should be at the forefront of our actions.
Also, everyone has a right to know their story. Adult care leavers should absolutely have access to their full records if they wish to access them. Any past records that are still being kept from the people who they affect should be made available immediately.
What about the children who were left in cots day after day with minimal care of being fed and nappy change? Babies were screaming and crying wanting to be loved and cared for, the damage to the babies was irreversible. This is very little talked about!
go to any orphanage in most countries, after awhile the children stop crying because no one comes when they do cry,. orphanages are not noisey they are quiet.. people forget that at least these children had a chance, in other countries mothers go into the woods or the fields have the child and walk away without the child
@@lhl9010 please send factual proof of your claim. Cheers.
I'm one of them but I survived
@@hinaynihorvath3926many blessings to you 🙏
@@seanirasach2512 you can research this ' developmental trauma ' this is when chronic abuse / neglect during the first five years of life causes changes in the brain structure leading to learning difficultys , inability to regulate emotions , inability to connect with other humans in a meaningful way , autism like symptoms , impulsive violent behaviours , inability to predict consiquences of actions , attachment disorder , PTSD ,many life long consiquences from type of systematic neglect and from forced removal from the mother's care in infancy .
Oh my God.....those nuns were horrible....threw them into sewage ! ?
I am so sorry for Paul.....'no contact desired'....God bless you sir !
A real mother is the one who's there to love you and be there for you, unconditionally.
I took my DNA test four years ago. I wanted to know if maybe I could find my biological father. I matched a first cousin who contacted me. She said that our fathers were brothers. Unfortunately my biological father had passed. She did tell me that I have two half brothers and a sister. That’s all she could tell me. So it’s always on my mind that she may have told them and maybe they don’t want to know about me. Sometimes I wish I hadn’t taken the DNA test. She did tell me their names but I don’t go on the website because I don’t know how. I hope everyone finds the answers they want. God bless. I too was adopted by my grandparents. I grew up thinking my biological mother was my sister. I wish you all luck 🍀.
What an owfull feeling… to know that they’re there but now they need to do the next step… so so sorry for you… God Bless You and give you good health and strength… ❤
The nuns are a disgrace, number one they are women too who should have empathy with helpless often very young girls who are children themselves, Instead of assisting and accepting them and their innocent helpless little angels made by god and completely without sin. They came into this world and just get treated so very badly , my heart bleeds when I consider how they must have suffered often alone , lonely unwanted and I’ll. How can anyone say they believe that God exists when they in the name of a Religion treats the weakest of god’s creation with such undiluted barbaric cruelty ? Often accepting large sums of money from childless rich American couples and pretending that they are dead. What an absolute disgrace ! everyone in authority within the church should ask to be forgiven; and forever hang their heads in SHAME, It is written that The Sins Of The Fathers shall follow those who knowingly took pare and contributed shall repent and suffer for the rest of their lives, due to the wickedness that they heaped upon these poor innocent and completely sinless innocent little tiny souls,” I feel physically. sick!” Rest in peace angels of god one day you will get justice, because religion has got to do better and atone for their sins and wrongdoing , especially one that is of Biblical Proportions. I hope the grownup children discover the truth and meet their families, if not , remember that you are loved by God and that you are more than worthy of love and happiness, because you are more than worth it, you are “Simply The Best” Love always 🙏🏽
😞 This seems to have happened in all countries where the catholic church had lots of influence. That's so sad 😢. Germany was also no exception to that. My mother also came from such a mother-child home and was eventually adopted.
This is so sad and no one is being held responsible for it.
The awful truth of missing children is world wide. Here in the USA babies were taken away from their mothers as soon as they were born. Ethnic native children born with blond hair were targeted as they were treated to Stalin's Gulags as suspect German reborns. I was one of these children. I remembered being in a gulag. Fortunately I was rescued, taken back to Detroit, given to an English couple and shipped from New York to England. I grew up believing I was with my natural parents. Life was difficult as my siblings were so hostile to me and I spent years as a victim. It was a very bad shock finding out I wasn't who I thought I was. I tried to trace my real parents but never found them. What I did find out was so atrocious that millions of people were repatriated to Stalin's death camps after WW2. They included Native American children, Polish, German, Japanese, French, Irish etc. All information is usually covered up. It's been a painful time for many people.
I would love to know more about this I'm aware of many atrocities including the theft of children from polish family's during Ww2 and the forced breeding of Russian and eastern European women with German officers in concerntration camps . Do you know the names of the programmes you were involved in . So much abuse and trauma seems to be lead by a small section of society . Much darkness that needs to be brought into the light at this time .
Not just the church it was the state also that should be made answer to what happenef
The Vatican had and has the State in their back pocket.
Wicked people stealing and abusing babies and mothers
Why are these nuns so above the law that they control access to personal information? Why are the personal records of the mothers and children the property of the state? The church is pure wickedness. This is horrific. I truly don't understand how anyone can choose to belong to such an organization.
The Catholic Church has too much power worldwide.
The Catholic religion was stolen from orthodox it's a new religion that was invented. Millions get pored into there from people who are Godly people and don't see the bad in this organization
Who is to say that they are dead, alot of them were sent to America, anyway the families of the women have alot to ans for as well. Putting them in the homes and it was upto the fathers or the brothers to sign them out but alot of them did not. You cant put all the blame on the nuns or the priests, you had the local councillors, the police and others involved.
@verali164 orphan trains.
At every step of the way, there have been officials, politicians, even cabinet ministers who have stepped in to protect the Church, even at the cost of their own careers. Were they hoping for a reward in the next life?
Pure evil, in God's name. Notice how the church put the stigma and blame on the women and children, never the men.
And especially not on themselves or the collaborating state... Church still has people in their grip in Ireland. On the bus old ladies still make a cross when the bus passes a church (which in cities like Dublin is practically once per bus stop) and notice how the word of the pope changed peoples minds? Not education, not the century movin towards more modern times? The damn pope... Soon all these mothers and fathers will be dead and the orphaned children as well. These long games the church are playing do tend to work, cause they have the resources and probably don't even feel ashamed.
That is the crime the church committed, it is not the fault of the men, and yet it is the fault of such men that knowing lay with women, that were not their wives....that act of sex, is only to be shared by a husband and wife...no matter how much love they have or think they have...both men and women share that guilt, for mocking the laws of God...I had one child , which I kept and raised, out of wedlock, I was raped, and left battered, almost died...the Catholic church, demanded I put him up for adoption...I refused , so I was excommunicated...and yes at the time I was attacked, I was a virgin, I was 16 and not looking for a boyfriend, and took my responsibility seriously. I was angry at God for abandoning me...until I met my now husband and he showed me, and taught me, that God did not allow this to happen, and he did not think of me as criminal, to be sent to hell, he also through the scriptures showed me a place of fiery torment( hell) does NOT, actually exist..it is a fictional place taught by the worldly churches.
lie
My wife’s mother was only 17 when she had her in 1951…it was known in the village who the father was but my wife was brought up by her grandparents thinking they were her real parents..in 2008 she inherited a large farm on a DNA test which proved who her father was..there was a suggestion she was nearly sent to the USA..so sad this awful affair…especially when religious people in authority ruined peoples lives..worst of all young children
they didn't ruin people's lives they were the only place to turn, the mothers could not support themselves let alone a child. without the church the girls would do like they do in Vietnam, go into a field have the child and walk away
😭😭
To be honest, your wife's situation seems to be the least worst (but of course still bad) outcome in a very conservative society.
Believing that your grandparents are your parents, and your young mother is your older sister seems a kinder fate.
A girl in on our street became pregnant at the age of 28 and while she wasn't put in home she was not allowed out until after dark during her pregnancy. Her child was tucked away in quite a decent home until she was old enough to take her to England where she married an Englishman.
To be fair the view was at 28 years old they said she was no child and should have known better.
@@freebeerfordworkers😊
As gut wrenching as this is to watch, I can not even begin to imagine what these mothers and children experienced - and continue to experience the after affects. Lord have mercy on these souls.
it's a fucked up life
What an amazing and strong lady. Your story is so inspiring. Thank you so much for sharing. Love ❤️ from Canada.
How anyone can remain in such a heartless church is beyond me? Nuns treated the mothers horribly and I shudder to think how the children were treated. NOTHING CHRISTIAN about any of it. Heartless and evil. There have been some shocking documentaries about it. Turns your stomach.
Catholics aren't Christian.
A lot of them weren't unwanted but had been sent there because they had fallen pregnant out of wedlock which was a taboo in the 60s and before. The Catholic church has a lot to answer for, they should be ashamed of themselves.
All about the money through “shaming” and scare tactics. Raised Catholic, now Christian, the Almighty doesn’t work that way, at all 👍💚
@@michaelfourie345 you are clueless because obviously you don’t know what a real Christian is. Your loss, so sad
@@michaelfourie345 you are so right. What a waste of time looking up that ridiculous bullshit. But, you are right…that’s what it is 🤣.
What about Daley having a child as a priest.
@@michaelpower4372 there was a lot of that nefarious shite going on with those liars. Nuns too. Abortions were hidden along with whatever else these criminals were up to
So sad... Catherine, you are courageous and brave, Thank you!
There is no such thing as illigitemate children, only illigitemate parents!
The true story 'Philomena' starring Judy Dench is one of the saddest movies I've ever seen!
Even "illegitimate parent" is an offensive term.
Yep, watched that years ago. I was taken from that orphanage - Sean Ross Abbey in Tipperary Roscrea Ireland. It’s on his headstone in the graveyard
Sin can be forgiven. Life must be respected.
@@izzyfury8126 sex between consenting adults is not a sin.
Disgusting that this ever happened.
Wow this is shockingly similar to what the Catholic church did in Canada to Indigenous children in the residential concentration camps, as well as what happened during the '60s scoop.
It is beyond disgusting to me that the fathers in these case had no responsibility. For generations the fathers of these children to unwed mothers walked away Scott free. The women and children were traumatized. Shame on the men and on the Catholic Church but particularly on the nuns. Their warped sense of Christian behaviour is beyond the pale.
Like much has changed in regards to the father's... To this day, the woman who chooses to keep her child is still looked at as less than. The men walk away without a care in the world.
I agree. None tried to find where the fathers are? Why would their names not be on the birth certificate? I'm sure all women knew the name of the man they slept with. Another attempt to conceal them and let them be free to do the same to other women or be free to marry and act like a decent man. Probably proud they slept with a woman too.
I wonder how many if any of those men have searched what happened to the girls and their kids and well done to those who stood by and married their girlfriend.
Boys need to be held accountable
I just wanted to wish you all the luck finding your parents. The shame belongs to the nuns and church.
& to the overweight white men with huge egos who "ran the catholic church" & many more countries with "politics". Bah, HUMBUG.
So true, shameful
And to the men .....it takes two to make a baby .....no doubt the
Male control again
My partner found out 2 yes 2 weeks ago she has a bother in New York. They only spoke for the first time on 2 weeks ago He only seen hes mother for the first time (hes 63) on a photo my partner sent him 2 weeks ago there mother died 10 years ago. There hoping to meet up in April.
I cannot fathom how one can claim to dedicate their lives in God’s service and profess to be a follower of Christ and yet do such evil and cruel acts. So sad. I pray that these sweet adult children find peace in their heart and love in their lives.
Shame, how terrible to meet your mother and then she doesn't want contact
I don't care if she wanted to know me or not. I just wanted to know who I was.
that's normal for us adopted people most never have that luxury
Even if you lose mother or father or brother or sister Jehovah will take you in. Jesus adopted those who put faith in true accurate knowledge about Christian followers
Happened to me. She was the one who insisted on giving me away. She and my birthfather were married when I was born, so it's hard to deal with that.
@@maryseman7019Sheesh! That is so devastating. ❤
I was growing up in Romania, living in Australia now, same thing happened in Romania in the past, no way to become pregnant before marriage, and in Romania you’ll find Catholics and mostly Greek Orthodox… but it makes no sense to me… you not aloud to have a baby before marriage, but they are aloud to take it and place it in orphanages!!!! How cruel!!!!
Those responsible for these horrific crimes may not have been held accountable here on Earth. They will be judged by God and they will be punished.
I pray for peace for their helpless victims.
God bless all these people who suffered/died ! May God's mercy surround you with His healing and His Light !
Thank you for this exposure 🙏🏼🌅❤️
I was born in the US and I was adopted. I can totally understand their feelings. I was fortunate to be adopted into a wonderful family but I still wanted to know were I came from. As for how these mothers and children were treated it is criminal.
The church murdered many hundreds, even thousands here in Canada also. Shame.
The church was there to do whatever they could, in vietnam there was no choice for single mothers they walk into a field have the child and walk away without the child
demons
And the got away with it why doesn't someone stop this now for once and for all shone this horrible evil that was done in god's name pure evil
The most horrible things were and still are done in the name of many religions. And it's women that suffer the most.
And children
Islam
It's the children that suffer the most at the hands of this evil. Even today, 2023, .. the children are suffering the most with all the evil pervading every aspect of life. Lord .. help the children .. they cannot help themselves 🕊🙏🙌✝️
You are obviously ignorant and a coward.
But why say so?
This was a nationalist project to make Ireland look like the land of pure traditional morality, unlike the corrupt protestant England. The Catholic Church just ran these homes. There were also homes run by the state and even one by the Protestant Church.
People who was abandoned feel emptyness
Heart-breaking. Children's Homes - places of horrific abuse and now this... just because they were born to unwed mothers. Glad some of the survivors have found solace with each other.
20:31 - Odd how so many children were labelled 'mentally defective'.
Thank goodness for what help they did get, before these homes women went into the fields had the chld and returned without the child
@@lhl9010 But it was only marginally better for those women - the nuns despised them and had scant regard for their offspring. Those babies fortunate enough to have survived ended up traumatised for life in their desperate search for their mothers. 'Tragic' is an understatement.....
This also set up a climate of secrecy and silence where young people, promising future leaders were "disappeared" and no one dare ask how and where, simply assumed they were "Magdalenes."
Please do a part 2 to this documentary, if that lady finds her brother.
Nice documentary. Hope these people get some peace. ✌🏻♥️
The absolute horrors committed in the name of religion will never be fully exposed.
I wonder if the Catholic Church is still doing this in Catholic countries like those in South America?
I don't think these activities will stop untill humanity gets together and calls it out .
Yes. Everywhere they go, canada, the US reservations, South America, the Marshall Islands, all over Africa. Mother Teresa was a known child trafficker.
Off course those satanic nuns want money
I expect they are still doing it in some countries,though I hope to God not so.
@@user-yz8pw9dv2n they are and much much worse. Look up Oprahs John of God
I've always been an atheist. It's hard for me to wrap my brain around how much influence the Catholic Church has to the point where people in their 80's still feel so much shame around illegitimate babies. The indoctrination must begin early and is so pervasive. I was watching a documentary on 'baby boxes' in South Korea. It's not uncommon for up to 30 newborns per month are left in the baby box. Most of the parents are quite young and some return to claim their child. There is zero financial support for these parents to raise their child. There is also a 'safe haven' law in the USA where children can be surrendered to police stations, hospitals & fire stations. Mostly the reason is economic and parents having little support to raise a child. The plight of single mums & dads continues.........
it's a fucked up world
I was born Catholic and baptized as an infant and raised with a lovely church and I cannot fathom it either. Life is a gift. We confess our sins and move on then and try to do better and accept god blessed us with another child. Killing children is not christian.
This is heartbreaking
During this time period.....unwed mothers were unacceptable...and parent sent them to many institutions to have baby & put it up for adoption....I do not think it was strictly a Catholic thing.
I’m one of them, put up for adoption. It was all about the money. Catholicism (Roman) is evil and ruled by the state not the Almighty ~ big diff
It wasn't just a catholic thing, it was all religions even non believers , ah well they wont have that problem now since they brought in abortion and you cant blame the catholic church for that. Look at poor sinead o connor whose baby was put into foster when she was in hospital after an operation. None of her family wanted to accept responsibility in looking after him.Thats what families do is get rid of the problem.
@@verali164 WERE talking about the CATHOLIC CHURCH. Your trying to Bursh it under the table.
I was done with the Catholic Church at 8 years old. A nun told me my mother was going to hell because she worked night in a hospital as a aide for us and missed church. At first my mom said what do you mean you’re not going to church anymore. I told her nobody condemns my mom and I wouldn’t have anything to do with them. I remember her tired smile and the pride she tried to hide, finally saying fair enough. She asked me to go back later for confirmation - just in case, I’d have one more sacrament under my belt 😂😂😂 it took years to be fully deprogrammed
Well done. Jesus said Get Out of Babylon the Great Harlots their father is the original liar.
A related movie illustrates the cruelty of the Irish Catholic society. The Magdalene Sisters is a fictional survival story of how three young women found themselves locked up in a convent. Two were sent by their parents as embarrassments, an orphanage sent the other for simply being attractive to boys. Unable to leave or have visitors, worked without pay, and lived in a psychological hell run by a tyrant, they managed a rare escape. Worth a see. The convent system story is based on survivor accounts.
This story is so very sad. However, Ireland was not the only country in which this happened. A child being born out of wedlock was a shame in many countris and societies. What I found amazing is that while the blame was placed on the Catholic Church and the govt. in Ireland, not one individual mentions the birth mothers and their families. Some of these women were in the 20's when they gave birth. These were woman, not children. Why werent they able to keep and support their child on their own. The blame also lays in their family, which turned their younf girls away if pregnant The docuu drama mentions, that some of these mothers had several children born out of wedlock, and therefore , 3 or more of their children were place in homes. Where does this blame lie?? And finally, without the mother baby homes established everywhere, not only in Ireland, but in America, one must ask what would have become of all the illegitimate babies ,if the nuns and govt had not existed?? The women would have been turne dout in the streets by their families.
Absolutely dispicable beyond comprehension.
An authoritarian regime not fit to look after a potted plant .
Lmao 😂 well said !!!!!
@@MoM-do7js 😆 👍
I bet you support abortion
Absolutely correct.
Nuns are forced to live an unnatural life by the church. It makes many of them angry and mean. I worked in a Catholic school for a year as a speech therapist. All the teachers were not nuns except one. I heard her screaming at her students daily. I never saw that behavior in the other teachers.
2023 and this is still going on??
Every thing continues as usual. Sad😢
Catherine is so brave, that kind of rot that the multiple authorities covered up is absolutely outrageous and scandalous, those responsible for those crimes should have been tortured for that kind of horrible behaviour, those nuns and church people are and were so wrong!
That is not what the lord wanted for these children,the churches all over the world let these young mothers down,(how do you believe rally) think about it😂😂
Catherine is doing a documentary with Liam Neeson soon on mother and baby homes
I think it is very wrong to say those children were unwanted you can best believe those moms did not want to give their babies up. They did that crap in Canada too they were put in orphanage if mom didn't want child or couldn't look after the child financially.
There was a rumor a few years ago that John Roberts (Supreme Court Justice) and his wife illegally adopted his two Irish children from an adoption service in South America. So much for honoring Irish laws if it is true.
It's Christo- fascism when a church becomes the morality police.
The Masons built Maynooth. Go figure the rest.
Such suffering is just heartbreaking.
I love these humans all supporting eachother !! America is with you !!!!!
How could parents send their daughters into these places. So obviously shame was more important then your own daughter. Ignorant people.
As an adoptee, I am disgusted about the role the church played in these peoples` lives.
Evil bunch. That's disgusting.
I’ve seen another video that dealt with this same story, only that was moderated from the viewpoint of one of the young mothers that passed through there. That was appalling as I never dreamed something like that could happen. I’ve aged a bit, come across similar atrocities and now know accepted that these atrocities did happen. God forbid it happens again.
I have an aunt that was stolen from the Catholic Church in the United States in 1948 or 49. Beautiful girl, they told my grandmother it's a time that she died. She didn't get a Birth Certificate or a death. Certificathey did our destination because it was not allowed to take the child whistle to Bury her. So we really believe that our aunt was stolen, and my dad believes. That she was stolen.
We Are the couch family. From Denton Missouri.
I just wanna play documentaries like this one for everything who always claims the world used to be so much better. The past is the worst.
This sort of thing was done by Protestants too, and also went on in England, Scotland and Wales. Irish girls who got pregnant in Great Britain were often sent by their priest to a mother and baby home in Ireland. Children's homes in both Britain and Ireland sometimes told parents their child had died when in reality they had been sent abroad, often under a false name. Children from the British Isles were sent to America, Canada, Australia, perhaps other colonies, for adoption, work or just abuse. The Christian Brothers were notorious for that, also Dr Barnardo's Homes.
As was mentioned in the documentary, all of this was paid for by the government, not the church. The nuns received state benefits for each woman and each child, so it was in their interest to conceal some of the deaths and deportations. State officials knew where the benefits were being sent. Local doctors, nurses and the Registrars of Births, Deaths and Marriages knew of neglected, sick and dead babies, and the high infant mortality in these homes was also recorded. The nuns' records show that they often falsified the names of mothers and babies.
As in modern times, the officials who had dealings with these nuns may have felt that they were doing "God's Work," and consequently turned a blind eye to misappropriation of public funds, in the same way that the nuns saw no "sin," mortal or not, in cheating the state. Those who work for charities today may justify their cheating their own staff in the same way.
People need to thank those that helped in whatever way they could instead of finding fault before such homes, women went out into the fields or woods had the child and walked away without the child
Thank you for that sad but beautifully written summary.
This is so heartbreaking 💔 😢
😢
Supreme court justice roberts and his adopted children.
Indeed! Not allowed to "adopt" directly from Ireland - had them "shipped" to Belize /Honduras and "adopted" them from there. Illegal and a violation of International Law and he is the Chief Justice of the USA - that explains a lot!
May God comfort those people who hávent seen their parents yet.😊😊❤❤
Bravo! Paul is A True Hero!!! Thank you so very much for Stopping the 'Mortal Sin' Bull Sht!!!
It was the same in Australia.
2:47 Nuns can be evil! They are absolute experts in humiliation, they enjoy it, they love it.
Then they don’t deserve the Nun Title
You are beautiful people. Thank you for letting us bear witness to that.
Hope there will be an update
God Bless you for researching must be difficult.
I met my half sister who lives in America in 2017 she was searching for me for 35 years, she was adopted in the 1950’s by the Catholic nuns because my mum was not married. Anyway I love my half sister but I can’t never forgive the Catholic Church for what they did in Ireland 🇮🇪
Oh I can cry about these people and so many others in the same situation…There are so many stories every where. I heard of one where when they had to open a wall …and then, they found bones of dead babies.
Maria Monk lives
Philomena comes to mind. How she could forgive them is way beyond me. But I’m so glad the film was made. I was raised Catholic and ran from it as soon as I could. (I was taught my nuns. nasty work ) So, Yes , I’d heard these stories.
Bullshit
Me too ! Ran from it at 17 ! Knew something wasn’t right ! 👍😁
My father never knew his father..I could see the pain in his face. His mom moved in with my dad's grandparents. I can only imagine how hearing what these nuns did just makes my stomach churn! Good luck with all your research
In every culture, time and place, women who have had out-of-wedlock pregnancies have been treated terribly. I know girls here in the states who were sent off to homes due to teen pregnancies, and they too were treated badly. No matter the religion or culture, unwed mothers throughout history and cultures have been reviled and shamed. Now, we have abortion, so...
My sentiments exactly. The Governments were always involved and the new way now is abortion and those children who end up in welfare homes etc, sex child trafficking is the way for these evil sickos.
Catherine Corless I thank you for your dedication and in pursuing this scandal Your the person who should be honoured for your research in finding the truth
This lady is an earth angel sent from god to help these people ❤
You are an amazing woman!!!❤
You are a wonderful person
ANOTHER HORROR STORY CREATED BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
Child abuse and neglect of them both. False morality.