Platform Ride on the NYC 3 at 110 MPH!
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- čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
- Take ride on the historic Pullman-built and former New York Central business car #3. The NYC 3 was on the rear of Amtrak's Lake Shore Limited coming out of Schenectady, NY to Albany-Rensselaer, NY on 09-07-2021.
Trains are authorized speeds up to 110 MPH between stations and our train hit the top speed this trip as we literally left the city of Schenectady in our dust.
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0:00 - Depart Schenectady, NY.
5:50 - Train speed 95 MPH.
6:18 - Train speed 100 MPH.
8:22 - Train speed 110 MPH.
16:36 - Livingston Avenue Bridge over the Hudson River.
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No persons were riding on the platform of this car while the recording was made.
Dang the hogger ain't wasting time opening the taps. Had you moving at a pretty good clip before you cleared the platforms and then he really opened her up.
Wonderful Video , Great Pullman passengers cars.
Thank you!
Great video! I cant wait to see the cars in Vermont this weekend.
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See America! It can be done!! Beautiful track!!!
That track on the right used to run along the river north, under 378, there were steel mills and asphalt plant and concrete plant, and back in the 70s, the whole downtown was train tracks down the middle of the streets.
Tracks went over the Hudson in Troy to green island and north through Cohoes NY and Waterford
There was Bendix brake manufacturer, Ford motors, like ts of factories, and the tracks went straight, over 787, and through Cohoes to the north, and through Latham and Niskayuna and into Schenectady
Tracks ran from Troy north through lansigburg, up to Valley Falls
The Cohoes / Green Island, Troy, Waterford area was super busy with trains round the ⏰ cl
And Mechanicville NY had 50 track D&H yard and 50 track B&M yard, with the Y connection and the XO tower
Lots of Mills all along the river from Mechanicville to Stillwater
Coal dealers used to get hopper cars that dumped right along the tracks
The Colonie Sub was double tracked the whole way with 2 main lines, and in Cohoes it became 4 with sidings off the 2 sides all through the city into Green Island. I remember just before route 2, there was a cross over and a double signal Tower with searchlight signals
The trains would be moved to whichever of the 4 tracks it needed to enter North Gate, which is CPO-5 now and the Watervliet yard was massive and they had many small locos and switchers for the local jobs
And they had passenger service still
And the trains would fly at 90 mph from Albany to Mechanicville
There were trolleys and I remember the diamonds going across all 4 tracks at Ontario St and the trolley went over 2 metal deck bridges, another diamond for the line along the Hudson and then over the 112th st bridge, which was a metal deck that raised both sides as a drawbridge
So much rail history and very few people remember and very few photos exist.
But people who were kids in the 20s, 30s, 40s, remember taking the trolley everywhere.
You could get from Troy to Malta, Saratoga springs, Ballston Lake, pretty much every town
And Waterford had a rail yard
Every town had sidings and yards
Box cars were made of wood and they had stairs they would put along side to unload
I really miss the simpler days
What's interesting is that the advertise all over the place that the top speed of the lake shore limited is 79MPH. And yet, I was on it and we did in fact reach 110MPH at one point
Yes we hit 113 last week It was insane!!!
The Lake Shore is limited at 79 Mph only after Hoffmans (just a little after Schenectady going West). I don't know why is that limit in effect, since the line is (or was) Rule 261-CSS , wich is the same for Hoffmans -Rennsselaer-Ny. Maybe it's related with FRA class track. If it wasn't for that, I suppose it could do 85 ( top speed in NYC times), 90, or even more
Some is the Mohawk and Hudson Route since 1831. Now for the rest of the way to Chicago!
We had Chicago to South Bend, but unfortunately the camera ISO was set way too low and it's terrible video. We'll get it together next time.
WOW!, kicking the dust up! The designated high speed line between Chicago & St. Louis was supposed to be rated @110 mph, but due to some safety issues, 90 mph is the max allowed. (80 mph for freights.)
Not 80 for freight. 70.
@@FFred-us9tw i have asked some railroad people about that, and they told me that certain freights are allowed 80 mph. But i dont think they will go that fast, even though the locomotives can do it.
There is absolutely nowhere in the US with ANY freight trains allowed 80. There aren’t even any modern 6 axle freight locomotives rated for 80. So it’s physically impossible. BNSF, UP and CSX have some divisions where they have intermodal speeds of 70 MPH. But that’s it. NS has a systemwide max speed of 60 for Intermodal. Ask one of these railroad people who told you this the name of the division and locations where they allow 80. It doesn’t exist.
@@FFred-us9tw well maybe not in your book, but i have a different one. Have you ever gone 70 mph on an interstate paralleling a railroad, and have a freight pass you like it was in a hurry? Most people go faster than 70 so they can meet their maker sooner, but i go the posted speed limit so i can live longer. Its been years ago, in Montana, my dad was driving on I-90, going 70, and this freight passed us like a bat out of ****. To give you an idea of how long ago it was, it had 2 GE U-25-Cs, and 2 EMD SD-45s up front. My dad kept up with it as long as he could, before all the idiot lights on the instrument panel lit up. By that time, we had reached Glendive, Montana, where we stayed overnight and let that 445 Wildcat Buick engine recover. That freight was gone by the time we exited I-90. So, yes, freights can move when they have to. And it was a pre-BN Northern Pacific freight that beat the ^^^^ out of my dads Buick. My dad said his speedometer touched 80 quite a few times while pacing that train. So, please dont say that freights cant go any faster than 70, because i know they can.
@@paulsmith5398 you literally just proved my point. You are talking about something that happened 40+ years ago (the last BN U25C was stricken in 81’ ). That was a very different time. Read my above post. See where I said “There are no MODERN freight locomotives geared for 80”. NONE. EMD’s are geared for 70 and some GE’s are geared for 75. NO US railroad has a freight speed above 70. I have a railroad issued tablet that has every timetable for every Class 1. I can see every speed on every line in the US. And if you understand what PTC is and how it works as well as what locomotive gearing allows you would understand that speed limits cannot be exceeded. At all. I’ve been an Engineer for over 20 years.
Talking about seeing a freight train going 80MPH 40 years ago doesn’t mean they STILL go that fast. Because they don’t. Not in decades.
Nice video, I have been on these rails myself not to long ago. I like the new train station at Schenectady.
Thanks!
This thing sure is kickin' up a lot of ballast dust behind it.
Amtrak had just dumped fresh ballast along the ties for track work they were doing a few weeks later.
Impressive doing 110+ MPH on wooden ties.
Nice fast stretch. The Hogger was really scorchin' the ties. The alignnent seems to be good for even higher speeds in eome places. That woooooo sound in places with wood ties is so nice. When the Hudson bridge in Albany gets a fix (it's presently limited to 15 Mph), trip time will shure be shortened
Maybe, but after the bridge is a fairly sharp curve and the station. I wouldn't expect to much other than more reliability from the bridge not causing delays.
I thought Amtrak halted hauling private cars few years back. Cool video !
The rules were changed and the costs went up, but cars are still running.
could have asked for a more perfect day.
Is there anywhere else that trains run that fast on rails with wooden ties? I would think wood wouldn't be strong enough to sustain the stress and to keep the rails in proper alignment for such speeds.
17:40 what is that antenna for on the building on the left ? It doesn't look like VHF, nothing I have seen before. These are CSX lines. There should be satellite dishes, but I don't see any. The signals being Reading style, I don't remember that either.
There was no over the air ATCS on that line 6 years ago. And as far as I know, there still is none
I don't see any 220 MHz antennas either
I remember when they did the track work for the trains to be able to do 100 mph between Schenectady and Rensselaer
I also remember when rail cars were backed into the cold storage building.
That building was a massive freezer and refrigerator. They used Ammonia in the cooling system
Lots of history
This is just a guess, but that antenna could be something PTC related.
The small antenna you saw is for a VHF radio in the bungalow. This is all ex Conrail which is why they still have the signals you see. And you don’t see satellite dishes out here because all of the communication out here is fiber optic based. Down south (south of Washington) is where the satellite and cellular communication is big. But on most of these lines it’s all fiber.
@@FFred-us9tw And the satellite connection is notoriously unreliable.
Should stick with the fiber-optic lines. They have the right-of-way to do it, why not do it?
@@kjrehberg because it’s drastically cheaper to use wireless than it is to install and maintain a fiber network. Especially when the majority of the data is intermittent.
@@FFred-us9tw Still, use terrestrial radio like the GSM-R they use in Europe. Satellite is too unreliable and a strong rainstorm will stop rail traffic for no good reason because the satellite signal is blocked by rain.
In different segments of the video , such as 12:21-12:25, it appears the railroad ties are approaching the train. Can anyone please explain this?
It has to do with the frame rate of the camera syncing with the ties.
Do we actually see this private car?
Here you go: czcams.com/video/xCH_ZaYbBkk/video.html
Do you know where it was exactly when it got to 110mph?
About 8:22. There's a chapter bookmark in the description if you want to skip to it.
nice empty train track LOL
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