How to Build a Hybrid Home Studio
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What is a hybrid studio setup and how does it work? Mitch Gallagher talks with hybrid enthusiast and Sweetwater Sales Engineer Chris Finton about how to easy it can be to enhance your DAW-based studio with outboard analog gear! Analog gear doesn‘t have to break the bank, and outboard options such as channel strips, EQ modules, and compressors offer up a much more visceral experience when it comes time to mix, master, and record! Watch Mitch and Chris tweak an old Sweetwater jingle using some of Chris‘s favorite outboard gear as they tell you everything you need to know to get started with a hybrid setup of your own. Check it out!
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Nice transition
thanks for this video Sweetwater! can you please make a video on OUTPUT levels from DAW => outboard gear ( in terms of db)
its important that we do not send a signal thats too hot into sensitive outboard gear (especially with tubes)....
there is hardly anything on youtube on this, so this would be a valuable learning experience for many home studio musicians as they start using outboard gear....
pls address
1) db level needed from daw => outboard gear
2) any difference between solid state vs tube gear in this regard (if any)
thankyou!
I use a Navation Peak with My DAW.
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Chris Finton is my sales pro and has been for a while. Cool dude who has helped me score some great gear at the drop of a hat. Kinda cool to see him showing off his skillset.
Yep, a big part is the pressing buttons.
And the limitations of old gear gets more music done.
Hybrid is definitely the best way to go for the home studio.
I’ve found using a 500 series lunchbox in the home studio really useful in building a chain/strip. Gives you so many options to choose from and mix and match to your exact taste… with a smaller footprint!
The worst part about all of this, is that these videos would've been handy years ago.
😭 true
Literally released weeks after I figured out how to set up rackmount gear + a mounted patch bay… it forced us to learn though! May arguably be a good thing, haha
@@wertymerm Yeah, patchbays are the key to a good hybrid setup unless you’re so opinionated and wealthy that you can set up permanent preamp-compressor-eq chains for each input
We will always be tone chasing and using any new gear that keeps coming out lol it never ends 😂
The part that never gets covered for a setup like this is the requirement that Focusrite Control be used when signal routing. (For the Focusrite interfaces, specifically!) I never see this topic covered in any videos related to using outboard gear. Avoiding feedback loops is such a common issue.
I still record on tape. I had already bought ART's Pro VLA II, and liked it so much for mic inputs/recording and then bought another just for mixing/mastering so I wouldn't have to repatch. Really great sound at that price. Warm, transparent and really brings up the parts I need more compression on for mixdown. I do a NYC-style compression on mixdown. Works really well.
Im dawless and looking forward to building my hobby studio in my house. I think Im going to go with the 500 series modules.
What do you use to record on tape?
I have a Mackie mixing board with midrange sweeps, a few outboard effects which include two of those ART VLA II limiter/compressors and a few others used mostly for reverb and mixdown purposes, and a few others I have I use for single channel effects on mixdown when/if needed. I use a two mic (one dynamic and one condenser) set-up to record my amps and use one of those Art VLAs for the mic inputs running it in dual channel mono to record amp, one side side of VLA goes to mic respectively, and I use the other one in stereo for mix down. This is all going into a 1/2" multitrack tape machine.
I didn’t know the ART could be used for mastering the final song. Interesting
@@BobbyGeneric145 500 series modules will only do 50db of gain theoretically due to the space constraints for the internal transformers. Most mics do better with up to 80db of gain. Go full size.
Good stuff, I love the Art VLA for tracking. I’ve been using two KT Eqps for their amber lights. Maybe I’ll try it on bass mix again! Mitch is good on the knobs. Refreshing to actually hear stuff instead of listening to someone’s philosophy.
I find this incredibly helpful, thank you Sweetwater!!
Here at Loonz Recording and Music Studio here in Nashville Tennessee we are a Analog/Digital Hybrid Studio and what Mitch is saying is very true. Andrew Plassmam at Sweetwater has been our go to source for over 5 years. Our entire studio is from Sweetwater. Thanks so much Sweetwater and all the staff for making Loonz Recording and Music Studio the Studio it is today.
The timing on this is impeccable because of the fairly complex hybrid setup I'm in the process of building right now.
This is such a great explanation and demo vid, thanks guys!
Like having a digital camera with analogue lenses that I have. Best of both.
lol
hahahahaha
This is my sales engineer. Good stuff!!
I was impressed to see the pieces you have, as basically that's my set up - although mine has a few more peices -
I have focusrite 18i20 and octopre dynamic stereo klark teknik eqs / going into my vla stereo - voice. Channel - as well as studio channel / that's my main rack and all i/o go through a patchbay / but it works sooo well with S1 that I've dropped pt / great units -
I recently built my hybrid setup. All of the analog units I bought have remote plugin control. I couldn’t be happier.
Hey man, mind sharing what your set up? I’m curious to know what gear you got that has remote plug in control. I use an Avalon 737 with for my vo work, but I’m in the first stages of having a house built and I’m thinking of adding some gear to be able to track local artists when I have down time in my business.
@@BUCKSHOTSTV I’m running a DANTE network on a Mac Studio. The heart of which is the Ferrofish A32 Dante. I have the Wes Audio Dione, RHEA, Hyperion and Protheus hooked up to the Ferrofish via ADAT from the Cranborne 500 ADAT chassis. Also have the Tegeler Manufakturn Crème RC, Bettermaker Mastering Eq, Bettermaker Mastering Comp, and Bettermaker Mastering Limiter running in/out the Ferrofish via the analog ins/outs. Lastly, I have the Eventide H9000r with the DANTE expansion card. I’m more comfortable ITB, so I decided to get outboard gear I could control like it’s all ITB. Hope that helps.
@@Maulleygxxx wow that’s a sick set up! Way above what I’m trying to do haha!
@@Maulleygxxx now can you explain that like you’re taking to a 5 year old
@@dangdrjay3011 lol. I’m not sure I could explain anymore simply. What exactly would you like to know. I’m more than happy to answer any questions 👍🏾
Routing my 828es with Logic has been a nightmare. Thank God for Sweetwater Tech Support!
Love these tutorials
bought the artII and swapped out the tubes and put some carnhills in there and it sounds sublime
Your doing the classic idea that there is Analog and software and that's what hybrid is however using digital gear and software is also hybrid. For example if I plug My Novation Peak into My laptop and use My DAW, I'm now using a hybrid set up.
I think the idea is more running a digital signal through an DAC to some analog hardware then back through a ADC to the computer. Your Peak is really exactly what an audio interface is in a hybrid setup. It sends a digital signal to the computer and can also send an analog signal out to an amp or powered speakers. I guess you could even mix through it so the hybridness would be in the Peak itself.
That sweatshirt is incredibly appropriate
still waiting for recall-able digital (remote) control of analog plugins, very few manufacturers (like Tegeler for ex.) do that
As someone who is in the process of opening my first recording studio I have gotten so much backlash from my peers for wanting to use analog gear in my setup. I always get told "There are plugins for that!" and I just think imagine a recording artist goes into a studio and only sees a computer, audio interface and mic? Would they even take me seriously? Analog gear also creates that studio vibe and I'm also the type of engineer that likes to get hands on with my work. Just clicking around on a computer is boring!
Analog gear sounds better too everything done 100% digitally sounds so flat
@@elnyoutube123 I keep telling my brother that. Mic to interface sounds dry as heck. This guy will literally
bypass my preamp then add a gain plug-in on the mic channel and crank it to max volume im like bro what are you doing…
The Pro PLA II is cancelling out the static in the midrange frequencies?
Thank you guys for sharing this!
Our very own studio will be nice
Personally, I run an analogue hybird system and I LOVE IT! Even bought all my stuff through you guys! However, just my humble opinion, Klark Teknik is just not something worth promoting in this video. I just went with the 6176 and haven't looked back. Ol' Glenn at Spectresoundstudios made a pretty good display at it's inability to function well. The VLA on the other hand was awesome!
What are they names of the 4 separate peices that are used in this video? Can I use a 8channel direct box to record into the Focusrite for extra channels?
I would purchase that bangin’ demo song @4:52
Chris can get you anything you need if it wasn’t for Sweetwater he’d be wanted by interpol❤
Can you do a video on how to build a hybrid studio using Cubase Pro 12?
Love his shirt lol
Nice video
Thanks for sharing but I´ve been doing it for years now I even livestreamed while I was making music 10 years ago. Today by saving all gear I purchased over the years I can put together three small combined Video and recording studios if needed. The easiest and cheapest way to record music is to use a cheap Behringer mixer in combination with pretty much any soundcard from the last 10 years. I got three Delta 1010 and three Delta 44 and a couple of other older soundcards that still work great.
Hybrid FTW!!
Mitch Gallagher has the dad trying to help his son with his trigonometry homework when it come to adjusting those analog units
Awesome
Really enjoyed this but still have questions... maybe somebody can help me as I am getting really confused:
I want to be able to connect two 19 inch rack pieces of gear, a Compressor and a EQ to my DAW master bus in Ableton through my M-Audio Air 192|6... will I be able to do it with this interface which only has 2 ins (already taken by my Korg Minilogue XD) and 2 outs (monitor outs, already used)... or will I need a mixer? and how to I go about connecting them? daisy chain?... thanks for any help!
Can i do a similar hybrid like this one with my Audient iD4 MK2?
Im wanting to add gear to my 18i20 but i dont know where to start
Cris looks a lot like Jessey Pinkman ??😀 Cool video 👌
Well i haven't been able to enjoy anything since the KT-2A is still unavailable on sweetwater. Can't cancel the order to buy something else because I lose my spot in the ticket. But honestly feel like taking back all my gear and just sticking to in the box now that all this is going on it really cramps my vibe to even want to record.
Same! Routing my MOTU 828 ES through LPX has been nightmarish enough but since so many new plugins are "almost" as good as the original with more features I've been going outside the box less and less.
@@professorjustinmedia2326 yeah man tbh even though it sounds bad I just have outboard gear to get clients in who don't know any better they see cool gear and want to pay to record lol I gotta pay for gear somehow
Would be nice to see around back..show and explain connection
Hi, which model of studio rack are you using? Thanks!
On-Stage RS7030 Rack Stand
Regarding compressors, on that Art Pro vla 2, it it possible to use channel 1 on the mic channel, then channel 2 for the mix, to “glue it together?@
Only if everything is mixed in mono or you mix entirely on your right speaker. A "mix buss" or your final output routes to a stereo signal, or a left and right channel giving the whole image of the song. If you send one output only to channel 2 on the VLA, you'll be missing any panning, stereo spreading, stereo reverbs and chunks of your midi instruments or wide mic'd instruments. The left channel will be gone from your monitors when you play it back. So you'd have to mix the song entirely on the right side or possibly in mono if you wanted the split the Pro vla between a mic and stereo buss processor.
Where do you plug in the speakers? The preamp or the interface?
Hello, mjbification! Speakers will connect to a device that can output audio from your computer or standalone recorder, if you have one. In most situations, you will connect speakers to a pair of outputs on an interface or a mixer, if that is what you have.
Thanks for the interest!
Cody Kraus, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1766, cody_kraus@sweetwater.com
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So the ART Pro-VLA doesn't need a preamp in front of it to boost the signal? I can go from DAW>Sound interface>ART>back to the sound interface?
Preamps are usually used to bring something from mic level to Line level. The outputs on most interfaces will output at Line level. So you should be fine.
I’m so lucky to live 30 mins away from Sweetwater
Hey folks, I wonder, is it possible to use guitar effects/pedals in such setup? I mean, directly looped for example from/to that Focusrite interface? there isn't much information on that topic online with clear answer, are reamp boxes required or can interface handle the guitar effects properly on its own?
Radial Engineering EXTC Stereo reamp box designed for this.
@@stevethebeeline44 yup I know, but I'm specifically asking if casual audio interfaces with line-level I/O work just fine with guitar fx pedals or not
hey man - i'm the dude on the right in this video. yes, you can, but you'd need to use a reamping box. the interface itself has no bearing over whether or not you'd need to use a reamping box, those are used to take a line level signal down to an instrument level signal, which most amps and effect pedals are "expecting." i've used Focusrite, Clarett, RME, UA interfaces...all need a reamping box if i'm sending audio into something expecting an instrument level signal. hope that helps!
@@hotdogproaudio thanks for reply Chris,
I'm still not sure,
there's even an Article #1719792 at Sweetwater comparing line/instrument levels, but then there is problem with impedance or just the output level of the line outs on audio interface? some have -10dBV option and also the send output gain can be adjusted in DAWs, so what exactly is the problem if sending lower level signal from line output into instrument guitar effect?
Absolutely
Now if you want something sweet, this is it.
Why do I get a heavy Rick & Morty vibe here?? lol
he has his setup as interface, compressor, eq, preamp
Mine is interface, preamp, eq, compressor.
can anyone explain why his would be the correct order?
im under the impression you boost the sound, eq it, then compress.
Hey, JDK! The long and short of it is, there’s really no right or wrong way to set up a signal chain. In the video example, I felt that I got the sound I wanted with that signal flow, but if you’ve had better success with another signal flow, by all means keep using it! It all comes down to personal taste :)
Christopher Finton, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3273, christopher_finton@sweetwater.com
Loving that Viagra Boys shirt!
In all gear videos mixing and mastering engineers mention you need aa stereo eq but this is a single channel one, this Klark . And so you are using it on stereo tracks / mix?! Could someone please explain before I make a purchase ?! I’m confused wld be really helpful !
that specific piece of gear you're referring to is mono, and in the video i believe i use it on a mono source. if you want to use it as a mastering piece of gear, you definitely have to get either a stereo unit (like the ART compressor we're using in the video) or get 2 mono units. you can use any of the analog gear on any piece of audio, it all depends on what your'e trying to accomplish in your workflow
@@hotdogproaudio got it ! Just reconfirming .. thanks for your response
Can u help me set up one?
@@hotdogproaudio Can u help me set up one?
My problem is I like gear more than I like making music….
😂
You got GAS brother!
4:22 is the breakdown
Ridiculous question: what product is that 19" rack frame?
Search On-Stage RS7030 Rack Stand
Going in works. Latency makes a round trip very questionable for overdubbing. On the mix/master bus this works. Overdubbing? Not so much.
I did this 22 years ago
Can anyone recommend a good DAW for a hybrid set up? I've got a sizeable hybrid set up now and I'm not happy with my current DAW and the way it routes things.
I like studio one pro
Reaper
Reaper
Any? Find one you can work with in free trials but Reaper is pretty much free to evaluate forever so might be worth getting a feel for a DAW with that. That being said, reaper excels at recording based workflows and not MIDI based workflows. But you can do most things with enough research. Reapers UI is a bit ugly but it's a good DAW.
So you don’t need a stereo eq ??! 🧐
Lmao
I LIKE ART TUBE
The A/B tho. I’m gonna go broke lol
Between the earring and the mustache, my GOD....those are strong choices...
Home studio .... something that my children are into , i have 10of children
What is “daw”?
"Digital Audio Workstation", or 'recording software' in layman's terms. Pro Tools, Logic, Reaper, Garageband, etc...
Digital Audio Workstation it's a software vertion of what is in a physical studio and over the last 20 years have become so powerful that you can now have the exact same ability in software for a fraction of the price of physical gear,
Sweetwater pls sponsor me I will create a cult around your business and make 500 songs a year with the gear u send me
I record hybrid. I mean the technology Is here and it's fucking good why not use it.
That said for people on a tight budget DO NOT waste money on compressors go for high end pres, mic and interface. That's the three pieces that makes your life so much easier.
For compression and eq I use my Daw
I acutally would say... acoustic treatment is far more important. I'd rather use a cheap condenser and interface in a well treated room, than if you gave me a TF-251 and a Neve in someone's untreated bedroom.
If you want to sell analog gear, don't go with "easy", there is nothing easier than selecting all the channels in your DAW of choice and loading and inserting a strip on them all at the same time. Those strips, or eq's or compressors, or whatever they are will be permanently there, no need to print them, easy to change anything you want whenever you want.
Now, is mixing hybrid easier than YOU THOUGHT? Maybe, depends how hard you thought it was. By comparison to plugins, it's a pain in the ass, let's not say otherwise.
A more compelling question is: what kind of different results can you get going hybrid? What are the sonic benefits that out-weight the trouble it causes?
BTW, saying "it's fun" won't convince anyone to buy a Tube Tech.
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Respect the Viagra boys Tee
Is a converter necessary to use when sending analog signal yo your daw?
Hi Lalocura, thanks for the question! You absolutely need a converter to get an analog signal into your DAW, or out of it for that matter. Even the sound coming out of your laptop or phone is first being translated through a Digital to Analog converter before it hits the speaker! When working in a hybrid work environment, having decent converters is also very necessary as you are expecting to route your sound in and out of your computer multiple times. Better converters distort the audio less, so your end result sounds better.
If you want to discuss hybrid workflows or just talk more about conversion, please give me a ring!
Drake Sobehrad, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3271, drake_sobehrad@sweetwater.com
@Sweetwater Thank you for the reply. Even when recording through a outboard preamp in series w a compressor?
@@lalocura1828 Yes, you would still need a converter and interface of some sort! Analog audio gear and the computer speak different languages, so you have to convert the analog signal into digital in order for the computer to be able to use it.
Drake Sobehrad, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3271, drake_sobehrad@sweetwater.com
He kinda looks like Jesse Pinkman's halfbrother
Why hybrid with hardware? More importantly not mentioned: because retailers sells hardware…
And it sounds better, if you know how to use it correctly.
An oscilloscope will tell you analog gear is indeed an actual vibration
Fluff and cheese
Fun? Hands on? Just buy a midi controller for your DAW. Buy this stuff for the sound quality.
Great conversation but a mastering engineer isn't supposed to have a "sound". Of course everyone is tho..
Firsy Comment, thanks Guys!
FIRSY
Huge congratulations on the achievement
You have a home studio? Just keep it all ITB. Cheap hardware won't help you. But hey.........that's not what Sweetwater wants you to beleive.
My mom had the same earring lol..you think someone would have told him take it off it’s very distracting whilst watching the video seeing that old lady earring swing around
Not the best fashion choice.
times changed old man
pls stop bullying me :,(
Plugins and hardware gear basically sounds the same so why would I occupy my space putting hardware gear in my room when I can achieve the same sound with plugins? Definitely not for a ''Vibe''
A lot of professional studios still use analog front ends to record. I don’t think they would spend thousands doing that if it all “sounds the same”.
@@Supernautiloid exactly.
you must have low end monitoring or low end ears. so ya, in your case, stick with the plug-ins
I've some of the analog gear that is emulated a lot in plugins and I can say from experience that it is not the same thing, the analog gear just has a extra potential, specially if you drive it hard.
it's only about workflow. if you like touching knobs and use the gear and can afford it, then you can get it. But "analog is better" is just not true. guys like Andrew Scheps and Tchad Blake are the best examples.
Kinda the worst sales video I think I’ve ever seen.. I expect more outta Sweetwater tbh…
Expect?
I appreciate they're not trying to sell us on stuff. Shows that they have integrity.
Ratio + Chris better
@@luxuriousfir I'm talking about how it was such a half ass video and explanation
That earring has to go
This is the worst setup breakdown I've watched
Why does this sound so scripted?
Wow, when the music came in . . . I can't remember the last time I heard anything so annoying.
Worst earring