How ‘Isla Bryson’ broke the spell of trans ideology
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- Andrew Doyle, Ella Whelan, Tom Slater and Fraser Myers discuss how the ‘prison rapist’ scandal exposed the dangerous delusions of the gender lobby.
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It was the fact that reference was made to “her penis” in court that got me. I think, had I been one of this brute’s victims, I would have been driven out of my mind by a system which leans over backwards to avoid
“offending” the trans community rather than chasing justice for victims of SA.
It’s not a factually correct statement and I thought the court was meant to be about facts and evidence?
I would have asked if the court wants me to lie on the stand. Don't forget, the chair of the rapecrisis Scotland is a man who tells women who've been raped that they need to work through their bigotry
I think that's actually the point of this whole mess. This is an attack on women and children.
THIS is one of the very issues and points I’ve been saying to women and even men who aren’t considering these issues and why language and facts and biology and science matters!!
If a 6’2”, 195 lb man assaults a man or woman or commits some other crime, are we REALLY going to care about or describe them as whatever sex they self-ID as and call them a woman, or are we going to go with the plain ol’ truth??
@@TooCoolforCardi they are believing them and putting them in women's prison cells. They are handing them condoms as they go in. I know of at least one case where the women in the prison were told the guards would not intervene in the case of rape because they didn't want lawsuits.
I didn't realise until quite recently that I am now apparently right wing. It has come as a shock to me after 60 odd years of being a lefty, vegan, right on bleeding heart liberal softy. I can't take any more of the bullshit so I'm going to spend my last few years watching videos of kittens while the world burns.
Snap! I was just bemoaning this very fact yesterday to a young person whose eyes literally glazed over. (Being a 67 yo OLD, I'm ergo a right wing conservative with nothing important to say apparently). Well, they may be right that I have nothing of value to say, but I'm still a lefty idealist who simply won't buy into the emperor's new clothes crap. Hmmm., you're right .. kittens are cute.
I brought this up with a close female family member at the time and was so shocked when she said that this person should be allowed in a womens prison because that's how they identified. They also said any male rapist should be allowed to be moved to a womens prison if they changed gender because some women sexually assault each other in prison so what difference did it make. It was one of the most shocking and surrel conversations I've ever had. It was eye opening to realise that some people people really think like that.
I went to the protest about this in Glasgow and it was such a relief to meet so many people that still had some common sense.
I will never understand women who have no sympathy for vulnerable women in prison but have enormous amounts for violent rapists.
You should ask her then do we make trans men with female body parts go to a male prison.
Sorry but I think that's a lack of good parenting. A parent taking on the responsibilities of parenting does not hand their children over to others thinking that those others are actually going to do the parenting and teach FUNDAMENTAL VALUES.
One time, talking with a girl, she admitted her stepdad abused her. She said her mother didn't care.
The woman in your family reminds me of that mother, the one that wants/needs a man's validation with such fervor that she would throw her own daughter to the wolves.
So, of course she's fine with sacrificing unknown women to coddle the feelings of a perverted man.
@@outoforbit00 Are you responding to the correct comment? I can't see how it's related to what I said.
This whole saga has shown the total cowardice of politicians, police etc. Recording men as ‘female grape suspects’ and putting men in women’s prisons shows how lacking in courage and character our public servants are.
It's a recreation of The Emperor's New Clothes. Nobody wants to be the first to tell the truth.
Yes, weak people needing to belong to the pack. They chose the wrong pack as well. The other pack id is much larger. Our pack.
Yeah even the ex CEO of Stonewall is now working for Labour
Kellie Jay Keen is the kid who shouts, "He's a man!!!"
it shows how little society thinks of women, actually, not just politicians, police etc.
A backlash? It's about time. I hope it's true.
It’s true re that people know it’s bull. But the trans lobby still make the decisions
It is.. trans is reaching that critical mass where enough people are forced to face it's existence and nonsense like the populating of Women's sports
All I’m seeing is double triple and quading down
@@HalflingPaladin exactly. The common man is now seeing it more for what it all is.. propaganda. But companies won’t lay off the HR departments.
And every year presidents know if they cut the budget for HR they may get canceled.
And the HR and DEI people know they are basically the KGB. They hold all the power, they won’t give it away,
Airlines are lowering standards to get women and brown pilots as we speak.
It is not going down. It’s going up.
Colleges are dropping SAT requirements as racist left and right
So now its just LGB?
I am concerned that we protect truth rather than any delusion. Women's rights should not be put to oneside in favour of transsexuals either.
its not even real transexuals. its female safety being put aside for male desire.
THIS. 💯💯
Ohhhhh......women
Even adults who transition often regret the surgery and wish to return to their natal sex. Therapy not surgery is the answer.
I work in health and remember seeing a large scale study of every single person who has ever had gender reassignment surgery (this was published in around 2005 or something like that) which found that none of them were happy. There was an initial excitement but then slowly the fact that these are people who are ultimately not comfortable in their own skin will come up again. And they were in a worse position that before. They were still not happy with who they were but had to content with the fact that they were also in a body that had been butchered.
"return to their natal sex" - They never left it! Sorry, I know what you mean, but the language is woo woo bananas insane.
@@L_Martin you are right. No one can change their sex. They can only change their appearance.
@@ktwashere5637 "And they were in a worse position than before". So true. Isn't it sad how these people have been lied to?
@@ktwashere5637 Yes. And a lot of the pain is internalized homophobia. They think if they are the right sex then their sexuality would be okay. It's self-hatred.
It's George orwell's 1984, 2+2= 5
The Left mistook that book for an instruction manual.
@@anthonymorris5084Most of us leftys are 100% against this insanity!!
@@grunge_surf_witch_uk9130 I would tend to agree with you, but we don't hear you folks speaking out. There is a radical Leftist element but it's growing larger and louder. It wields a lot of power and influence.
The gender thing was to see how many obvious lies they can get away with. It was never meant to be kind it was meant to control.
Bingo!
Canadian here... *sigh* yeah okay, we are pretty much lost
The parallels to the days of lobotomisation are striking.
Not really. No one asked to be lobotomized. It had nothing to do with sex and gender.
@@ls-l1518well it was framed as a solution to a problem and a form of medical care but it irreversibly broke physiology
@@etherspin I don't know how much medical history you have read. I am a psychologist, and have read some. It was in order to make aggressive psychiatric patients more manageable. They knew, the person would become a vegetable, more or less. So no, the parallel is not striking.
@@ls-l1518it isn't particularly about whether one asked or not, but about the physical surgery being believed to solve a mental /psychological problem, of which neither did.
Never knew so many doctors, nurses, psychiatrists and other medical professionals spent so much time on CZcams! Can’t say how many times on this topic I have come across comments claiming to be X,Y & Z and they know more than others commenting! 😀😂🤣
This too will pass. It is ridiculous and eventually it will be seen for the complete bollox that it is.
How many children will be damaged before that happens, though?
Sorry, but that’s a very passive and ignorant belief. It’s OBVIOUSLY not dying down, and in fact, it’s becoming more and more widespread and seeping into EVERY part of society. NO, the ONLY way this madness will stop is if people ACTUALLY consistently speak up and fight back and vote against these policies and ideologies, maintain important language and its meanings and definitions of men and women instead of going with the whole pronoun and self-ID BS , and continue to bring awareness to the dangers as well as fire and not hire activists and extremists in key positions. Change NEVER comes with people sitting on their asses and being lazy and simply “hoping” things will getting.
@@Old_ScotToo many mate, too many.
How many women athletes will be permanently damaged before this happens?
Sexual orientation (hetero-homo) is completely different than the trans concept. Most all male to female as adults are heterosexual.
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They thought no one would care about women in prison and they were wrong.
Unfortunately, MOST people don’t care about people in prison and that includes women or this would’ve never happened to begin with.
@@TooCoolforCardi Have to agree. The disregard for the rights of prisoners is pretty shocking. However, to be fair, I think many people really believe that the only men being put in women's prisons are those who have had SRS...and that's if they believe it at all. I've had people tell me, quite seriously, that it isn't happening, it's a right-wing lie meant to stir up hatred against LGBTQ.
Why should people care?
@hydrohasspoken6227 the majority of women in UK prisons are serving time for non violent crimes such as benefits fraud. A staggering amount are inside for non payment of the television licence. People are disgusted that women are being assaulted by male s offenders, that they are not believed and are punished for complaining. I care because I've been in a situation where I lived with an abusive man for years and understand how hopeless it is being trapped with someone who is dangerous.
@@villeneuve1388 , women are definitely innocent.
push the woke civil servants out of their jobs
I've never been ashamed to be a Kiwi until the Parker Posy thing. For a guest in our country to be treated like that is appalling.
The silver lining is I think it was a watershed moment that peaked a lot of people.
@@clemdane I hope so.
Ok, what did you do about it though? Did you write your politicians who publicly stated that they were proud of her assaulters?
I hear that. I was proud that she was received well in Dublin recently but I think that PP went to NZ the year (and a half?) before this and the World was still in the absolute height of trans women are women mania at that point. The pendulum has swung back a bit since then.
@@SusanaXpeace2u Trans women have been accepted into women's boxing. I don't think that the pendulum has swung back much at all when it will take a woman dying at this point to get that rule overturned.
On a few of these discussions there has been talk of the erasure of young gay men and lesbians as there is pressure to transition. Can you please talk about how autistic children (particularly girls) are being told the reason they feel uncomfortable/disconnected in their bodies is down to them being the wrong gender, rather than as part of having autism?
It's so insidious that as the amount of autistic children increases year on year (thanks to social isolation, lack of skin/touch and bonding with mothers as babies/children, inflammation due to microplastics and pesticides, the degradation of the brain/gut connection, etc) society is telling them that it's their problem they feel "weird". It's not enough that they have this socially, mentally and often physically harmful disorder, they are also gaslit about it. It's so under discussed and we are failing our children.
Yes out here in Australia my friends thought they were getting government funded assistance for their ~12 year old Autistic daughter until they realised the teacher in the art therapy sessions convinced her out of nowhere that she was actually male.
Cessation of the therapy was all that was needed to undo the stupid problem
They are telling people there is only one way to be, and if you do not fit into a particular box, you are somehow trans. This hurts because I know how far I have come. I was diagnosed in middle school. It was hard enough for my parents who are black and from a small Southern town to get a proper diagnosis. I had a progressive teacher at the time , but she was progressive in the sense of having learned about different modes of learning as well as the belief that girls, students from lower income brackets, and children of color were being misdiagnosed if, at all. Believe it or not, THAT USED TO BE PROGRESSIVE MINDED for my small town in the Bible belt. As a girl who fit in with very few people, I shudder to think what would have happened to me if I had TikTok and the new type of progressive teachers back then. I was full of so much self- loathing because I saw myself as “not normal”. Due to one compassionate teacher intervening and speaking to my parents, I advanced quickly and got into a really great math and science focused college later on, but only AFTER we found a better suited educational setting in my early years.. I also married a great guy and I did it all after learning how to work and socialize better with my pattern of learning. These activists are simply spreading ignorance and age old stereotypes enforcing the idea that you have to be one way as a girl or else you are not really “normal”. This is painful to witness. Pardon my ramblings.
I believe that research would show a strong correlation between far left views and autism too.
@@jimdavis8391 Are you being disrespectful? Quite a few people with autism are very much analytical thinkers. Some fail to see the nuances that come with much socialization. That renders quite a few to be seen as dispassionate because they simply see things in black and white and in terms of outcome. Thus many are right winged or conservative.
@carrington2949
Well, speakin as a conservative autistic woman, jimdavis is kind of right.
Yes, we exist. But before I was conservative, I tried so much to be 'good' in the eyes of the world. And I was so open minded I was able to relativate almost any evil thing. Even if it happened to me.
I tried to belong so hard and formed myself after the culture. Still, it did not work because the world always knew I was different and did not want me, and I only hurt myself.
I still have this instinct to 'be good'. But it is way better used in the Catholic Church, where morals are a constant that won't change evers five minutes, they just can be explored or understood deeper.
What will happen with all these people who have had their sexuality destroyed? Who can't have an orgasm, don't even get horny? Intercourse is painful or impossible, lots of pain, endless medical complications. We haven't even seen how these surgeries will fare over time, like 30 years, 40 years. The pent up frustration, what will they do?
Such a pity your research is so wrong as all the bad results you believe definetly don't always exist after gcs .
@@FranceneJacques
No one said always. I have read the research. But many haven't. They have only read the Tavistock papers and the Dutch studies. Which have been shown to be very flawed and not up to scientific standards. The people at the Dutch center have even admitted this themselves. Most haven't read any science at all. I think you are the one not having read the research. But you know many who have been on puberty blockers who have a strong sex drive and who have orgasm? And you know many with a fake vagina or a fake penis, and they work well? They can have intercourse without pain and with pleasure? Please tell. You have perhaps undergone these procedures yourself? And you are happy and well, and have had o medical complications? I am very interested to hear, as it is very rare.
Chopping off body parts and other 'surgeries', will, most certainly, be painful and 'not something that is done lightly'.
But, I would contend, that acquiring the skills of self reflection, of learning how to understand yourself (and in doing so, understand others), is actually more difficult, and is not a path well trod.
Chopping off body parts is mechanical, and has that security of simplistic solutions.
Truly learning about yourself (the good and the bad), is, when carried through to the end, more of a poetical experience (which is not mechanical or 'scientific' or 'ideological') - - and consequently doesn't carry the same 'security'.
Choosing 'surgery', is, in fact, ruining a chance to learn what Life may be about.
It is this ruination, that has burnt all bridges, that creates desperation and eventually madness.
Once madness is legitimatised, then it contaminates everything.
AND, all this - - 'to look after the vulnerable'.
We are all vulnerable when we really start digging into who we are.
Agreed, also very well put. 👏👏👏
Quite right.
Counselling.
If that's not enough, mental hospital.
Points beautifully made!
agree and well written
You speak about Adam Graham and say nothing about Andrew Miller who while dressed as a Woman abducted a vulnerable girl and SA.
The young girl, before the police rescued her
Her, Before she called the police.
Andrew is absolutely right about the trans issue. There are many LGB people who would support what he's saying. I know I do.
Spell?
Harry Potter is more real than the Trans arguments!
Why should we have empathy for perverts?? No, absolutely not.
The stupidity and cowardice of these politicians is absolutely ludicrous !
"desperate to be liked by people who would never vote for them" sum it up well.
You're right (though I wish you weren't): Canada is lost. I haven't lived there in over 30 years, and hadn't visited in 5 years until a couple of months ago. I was SHOCKED by what I experienced, and the terrible change in such a short period of time. I was sitting outside with a friend who lives there, and we got onto this topic (caused by my surprise at seeing the rainbow++ flag plastered everywhere). She told me to keep my voice down, then whispered that it wasn't a "safe" subject to discuss in case I was overheard and upset others. I felt sick... is this what Canada has become???? I wasn't speaking loudly, and I was being very reasonable in what I was saying. Hell, I should have been able to shout my ideas in a free society! Btw, this happened in Halifax, which is supposed to be pretty tame in comparison to Vancouver or Toronto. I was thinking of moving back to Canada, but now I'll choose to stay where I am in Asia. I am so incredibly saddened by what Canada has become.
What an insane conflation to make, as a Canadian, please stay in Aisa if a Rainbow flag upsets you so. Also want to make it VERY CLEAR, I DO NOT support cohabitation r@pists with their victim pool, regardless of gender identity. But your comment isn't about that ,it's about being afraid of a Rainbow flag and discussing possible bigoted views. I'm sure your friend wouldn't have told you to "keep it down" if you were not saying hateful things. Why would you have to keep your voice down if you weren't saying anything hateful?
@@animebabe44 I'm not afraid of a rainbow flag. Your assumption is ridiculous. But seeing them plastered everywhere (the new, divisive ones rather than the original, inclusive rainbow flag) screams "accept this ideology". I'm uncomfortable with ANY flag being plastered everywhere (painted on streets, too!). And I'll tell you what I was saying, which may cause an ideologue like you tremble: "I'm shocked at how pervasive this ideology has become, and it's also pretty pathetic that even banks are cashing in on it by pretending to care by flying the flag". If that didn't make you cry, this OPINION will: I don't give a damn about anyone's gender identity. Identify as you please, but nobody should be obligated to play along (oh yeah, unless you're in Canada). Women's rights and safety are being trampled on by gender ideology, and we should be able to shout about that, rather than being cowed.
it is a horrible feeling not to be able to state objective truth because of an opressive regime.
Of course the rainbow flags are signaling everybody what they have to think and do. It is a very dangerous cult which is winning over the world by storm and the alphabetsoup is only one aspect of it.
I was not allowed in stores for months in my country because I did not want to take dangerous poison against a theoretical exercise. And I had it easy, in other countries they even could not buy food.
I hate what this world has become, or what it always was, but now this ugly thing is in the open. And STILL most of the people chose to ignore it
The result is that one cannot change sex, so the process is not a transition.
It’s a contagion I know three people in tiny population NZ whose young daughters have had surgery to become ‘men’
I think some people just have to double down because of all the ground they will lose if they admit they're wrong on the slightest thing. I see this a lot, these days.
A few days ago the SNP withdrew their intention to appeal against Westminster's block of Scotlands intention to impose self ID.
But they left the law on the table for Keir
Isn't housing men in women's prison against the Hague agreement?
Yes but if its impossible to define men or women....🤦
Elizabeth Fry must be turning in her grave
I believe the agreement you're referring to is specific to prisoners of war.
This is so insane, whoever approved this should lose their job and never be allowed to work in government again. They put women in prison in danger of being attacked by this rapist.
Misgendering shouldn’t be a hate crime because the person is making a assumption that the person they would be accusing the person without knowing if they have a medical condition that affects their memory and under the Equality act they don’t have to say if they have one . Also how would it be judged as a intentional act or just a Slipup .
It doesn't exist.
People who supposedly misgender are simply doing pronouns as their functional form that denotes biological sex... That's it.. that's really all.
People are demanding lies and nobody should have to do it.
It's kind of despicable that we say this nonsense around kids and confuse the crud out of them
It's also forcing somebody to lie.
Good podcast guys. I’m watching a lot more stuff to challenge what I’ve learned. I’ve always thought we have to balance what we believe, regularly check in with other sides so non of us forget to work together.
Sexual orientation (hetero-homo) is completely different than the trans concept. Most all male to female as adults are heterosexual. Most all of the female to male are young girls who are susceptible to social contagion (in the past the probs included eating disorders and self harm). These issues can be treated, and they do not constitute 'conversion". Sexual orientation does not change. No serious scientist, psychologist believes that a heterosexual child can be converted to having a homosexual orientation. The laws against conversion have been proposed by progressives who are promoting the trans concept and they deliberately confuse it with the destructive attempt to change sexual orientation. In fact, the trans movement is actually attempting to covert gay boys into castrated gay kids....
Tavistock woke a lot of the general public up. Also the Sandyford Clinic in Glasgow really needs an eye kept on it.
"Canada is pretty much lost" as a Canadian, I felt that 🥲
Tranada is indeed lost.
It was the final nail in Sturgeon’s coffin. The Scottish Greens got in her ear one time too many.
The emperor is slowly being undressed...
This is legal in CA thanks to Gov.Newsom. Most people in CA have no idea about this.
Earlier this year I heard on the woke BBC World service about Uganda 's oppression of LGBTQ people. They had an interview on the radio with a local man who " identifies" as a woman but is also a "lesbian". I thought it was a joke, but this was the BBC so it was serious. Also very ingenious. Not a man, member of the patriarchy, etc, but a sister who is TG and just happens to have a penis. Clever.
I am getting old.
Really enjoyed this. Great points all round
Begs the question, what did people with these body issues do in the past? Were there self identifiers in the middle ages?
At a guess I would say that there was no such thing. There may have been people involved in witchcraft who thought they could briefly become different animals or people but unlikely there would be a sexualised element.
This nonsense has occurred to people who have too much time and have been exposed to perverse sexual material from the Internet.
More than likely NO, there weren’t because people had REAL shit to worry about like survival.
@@TooCoolforCardi Lol. OK, what about in the 1920s.
Oh look, JK Rowlings had a balanced take all along in defense of women's rights and safety... what a surprise...
The level of stupidity that allowed this to happen is unreal
There is those of us in "the trans community" who are utterly appalled at the government control acceptance version of trans rights "the rest of us are just getting on with our lives" I myself have been a victim to a MAN that abused me (I am disabled with a brain injury, he was a social worker using drugs and alcohol to abuse me.....he got away with his crime then got a so called sex change and enveloped himself in the local trans community here, which obviously post said experience and another one or two verbalising their 'fantasies'.....is that the oh we are all friends trans umbrella is a diabolical insult.....
There always has been a good deal of tolerance in this island. I remember working in a computer shop in the last century and a quite obvious male in a dress would come in and browse but was never bothered by other customers and never caused any bother. Honestly, if you want to have sexual congress with a car exhaust pipe then carry on so long as it is not my car exhaust pipe and you do not expect me to applaud.
THIS IS THE CONVERSATION the Left needs to be having, not this ideological dick fighting (pun intended) that merely reacts to the Right's hatred. WELL DONE1 PLEASE KEEP THIS MINDSET GOING.
Non-crime hate incidents weren't invented by the College Of Policing, they have existed since the 2013 Home Office guidance on hate crime, which REQUIRED incidents that were perceived to be hateful to be recorded whether they were crimes or not. The College updated the guidance in term of format but didn't make any meaningful changes to the substance.
Which is why the College was puzzled to be reviled for their guidance being deemed illegal, when it was the Cameron government which came up with the whole idea.
And if you read the leaflet the police hand u when to explain to u what a hate crime when accused of committing one is its anything that anyone might perceive to be offensive which by its own definition in the leaflet makes it a hate crime by accusing someone of a hate crime 😂
Was Bryson a Rab C Nesbit fan? Theres an episode of Rab C where he decides to present as a woman to get one over on the DSS. Brysons story has a lot of similarities.
Was thinking of that episode when I read about the case months ago. Glad I’m not the only one who sees the similarities
The UK needs to take the lead and stand up for civilization. Hopefully the commonwealth will follow suit.
UK, civilized. Alright.
I'm not even British and yet I got Keir Starmer's "Christmas message" in my feed on X. I replied, "What is a woman?"
Give them an inch and they'll take a mile. Have you noticed in police arrest videos that every black person being arrested starts screaming they can't breath?
You are FULL of it comparing police brutality and racism with this trans nonsense. STOP IT.
@@TooCoolforCardiif someone is pointing out a blatant discrepancy why should they stop it? The point is valid.
Who knew this would turn out badly? 🤔🤔🤔
I honestly think it's naive to think that Bryson brought down Sturgeon. Operation Branchform was probably a much more significant factor. It wasn't Isla Bryson who arrested her and her husband shortly after she resigned.
Oh agree with you. But the whole pushing through the Gender recognition act just before she resigned and the obvious clash with Westminster that everyone knew was going to happen was meant to distract from Operation Branchform. It isn't hard to see that the act was meant to be passed and Sturgeon was meant to walk and then she would look like a martyr as the SNP probably would have spun the arrests they knew were coming as Westminster getting its own back at her because she stood her ground over a 'civil rights' matter.
But then along came Isla to be the poster child for everything that everyone who even just questioned self idea had said was going to happen. And it is sad that women said that this was going to happen and it took a man doing it that made people listen about women's safety But as I have been told - I'm just cynical
I totally agree with you. It shows how little English commentators know about Scottish politics.
@@Old_Scot I think some GC folk want to believe that was what did it. It kinda looks that way from outside too. For most politicians, a humiliation like that could have been career-ending.
@@XKenny77 Yet, they don't realise quite how much of a brass neck our "feminist to her fingertips" FM actually had.
i don't agree. What brought down Sturgeon was the suggestion of financial irregularity in the family, whether that turned out to be true or not. Bryson was the distraction.
Honestly in my opinion, the whole handling of the situation was complete BS, I hate to admit it but its safe to say that Posie parker was right about most of the things she said in 2018 on this morning, especially regarding trans women in women's spaces. Its also tragic that incidents like this creates misinformation about good trans folks too.
There are days when I wish the handmaids tale was a documentary.
The civil service needs sorting out
Very insightful!
XX or XY, there’s almost never a trans woman.
There never is
People with chromosomal anomalies are not trans, the two are unrelated. One is biological, the other is psychological.
The SNP will not let it drop in Scotland. No way.
It has very little support among Scots. I hope it is another nail in their coffin.
I think it could be helpful to have a third category. And support it and recognise it as we do the other two. Shame we are still having to have categories.
Andrew, you're right about Grindr, too.
This is sad, but it's true, I am an Aussie because I am a woman. I am a woman.
ideologies always result in tyrrany.
we say there is a backlash, it's difficult to say since we still have the entire younger generation who are likely to be way more hardline. the rapist was a step too far but look at the murder of Brianna Ghey, the same media outlets calling the trans rapist out have been running the Brianna story as just 100% fact that she was a schoolgirl, it is all the beautiful young girl, even the mother talking about her beautiful daughter as if its completely normal even though he had been living as a girl for a matter of months, just now it is all acceptable because he was a skinny boy, what would happen when he was 18 looking for hormones and surgery. politicians kept totally out of it knowing it would be career suicide to state the facts. basically probably a young gay boy giving make up tips to adoring teenagers, it was quite obviously a boy in a wig and no different than the rapist case as far as the fundamental issue goes
"Brianna" was obviously a troubled young man, with severe disciplinary issues in school. Karen Davis covered it recently.
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The sky is not falling
Catch up a little on the NZ situation, the new government has made moves to get rid of the ideologies.
Any link or something?
A google of new NZ govt. policy should bring up a shortlist of 40 odd things they plan to fast track as they take over. A govt. made up of 3 parties, so it is a mess, but hobbling along. @@jibberism9910
I still am so surprised we find ourselves here... but so grateful people are speaking up. I strongly agree that in the West, it's a dangerous lot in life to be born a potentially gay kid. ❤
Spiked really don’t have their finger on the pulse do they? Could have had this conversation months ago. This guy was on GB news arguing with Andrew Bridegen. Does he still hold the same views regarding COVID and Lockdowns?
Spiked have been challenging this stuff for years. They are also leading the fight for freedom of speech and the right to offend
There will be no meaningful backlash or examination of this incident that results in policy change.
logic has left the building
I think people forget and kids just don't know that trans is an acronym for the word transition which is a noun. You're transitioning to be something else. It's not a form of self expression in the conventional sense which I think people are using the word for today. But language evolves. Traditionally it's like body dysmorphia only it's gender dysmorphia and can be diagnosed. I don't think kids should be exposed to that until they are into puberty because that's when it'll likely become more apparent as to how the person really feels about it, being a kid is confusing enough. However, the younger generation paves the way for the future, I'm sure people were saying the same thing about gay marriage back in the day or women voting, or people getting more rights in the workplace. So I'm in two minds, on one hand I'm excited to see how things evolve and on the other hand have heard that people who transitioned in the 80ties and 90ties do not like what is happening with the LGBTQ community. But I myself am happy being the gender I am and feel also that having an opinion of something I'm not going through is ignorant and entitled. I don't know how they're feeling.
Took a break to look up Jennie Watson! 👏
LGB ✂TQI+
woke! woke! woke! all of these people!!!
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Using prohibited words
@@OrwellsHousecat even “good discussion” got removed
It's just CZcams being jank. The comment system is really broken and comments randomly don't show up.
They're after me for 'hate speech', which really just means 'speech that irrational Leftists hate', and includes the truth, evidently.
@@johnl5316 ouch. Got through this time though
Funny sky news has almost the same title from 9 months ago
Its a fad. The momentary fascination of the absurd. The dictatorship of nombrilist fantasy, ad nauseum.
It's far more embedded in the UK than Australia mate, not that things are perfect here. Although our left leaning PM is quite happy to define a woman when asked.
Lesbians can’t meet without men maaate. Australia is lost, Terf island is leading the way
I hope it's true
Bring back transvestite.
Stonewall is not anti-gay INADVERTENTLY, at all
"Isla Bryson", write HIS real name.
Agreed, lets stop calling shit brave when it's just stating the obvious. Feminism and all the other movements people followed like sheep used their platform and weaponised it.
It’s amazing how an ideology invented by predatory, homophobic & misogynistic males is criticized by other misogynistic men like you, who blame “feminism”. Actually, which Spiked said in this episode, & which the historical facts reflect, gender ideology is completely incompatible with the rights of women and girls. Feminism, At its core is the expansion of the rights of women & girls.
The attempt of men like you to blame feminism for an ideology that serves males, was invented by woman-hating males, & undermines the rights of females is completely incoherent, misogynistic, victim-blaming bile by alleged men- if you were real men, you’d not be sitting here saying falsely, “see? Women and girls had the nerve to demand basic rights? This is where that leads…male rapists stealing women’s rights”
What’s next? You gonna ask a rape victim what she was wearing to imply it was her fault instead of the male sex criminal? 😂incel vibes
Long overdue so sick of the cry bully victim pandering
I also had a hang on a minute moment when I listened to the lady talking and realized that whenever a former suppressed group is finally out of the line of fire they join their former suppressor to dunk on the the next underdog in line. Just as poor, underpaid workers native to any western country blame the so called immigrants instead of their fucking overlords for their poor conditions. How can we break this chain of misery?
its attention seeking , period . ffs
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If you can't laugh, you won't stay sane for what's to come
Isn't this considered hate speech where you're at? I hope the Gestapo don't arrest you for these crimes against humanity.
Shariah law and caliphate is not the way viva israel
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If adult women listened to adult men, it would’ve never gotten to this point.
Can you elaborate? I have no idea what you mean.
@@Ashgarify He is a mysogynist who thinks that women having some rights, has encoraged men to want to become women.
The great thing about the whoel trans situation is that it has laid waste to a lot of feminist assertions, which were just as plainly bogus.
My personal hope is we can now take a look at all the gender related dogma and come up with a model that is based on measurable facts and the same critical theory that bought us modern feminism.
It's hard to understand why everyone is getting upset about a social construct when every one knows that all genders are equally dexterous, strong, fast and have equal reflexes, or that there is room for sexism like single gender prisons when we know that men and women can live in the same facility without separation. The feminists told us that women didn't need separate facilities when they wanted women to be allowed to serve on naval vessels without separate ablutions.
The issue is simple.
It has everything to do with *language* and how it is used. Ideas become words... and as yet the idea is already here now... but the word doesn't yet exist.
Sex as a medical definition, as opposed to gender, as a self identification definition. They are *not* the same thing. And never will be.
More words need to be used. Accurate ones.
In physical aspects, biological males will *always* have the advantage. There have been enough obvious videos describing why, with varied levels of intentional offensiveness.
The word "Woman" has come to mean many things. As does the word "Man". And the levels of friction are obviously where the variances of those definitions meet.
Yes, a trans woman wants to be called a woman. A trans man wants to be called a man. That they expect everyone to socially nod and smile on this issue. And socially, that can be called fair.
On the medical side, such as who ends up in what prison, on what teams, what sports you can compete in, under what rules, etc. the only thing that matters is the physical.
Having the language *itself* define differences where limits are needed is the *only* way to make lasting and stable changes, that benefit BOTH sides.
The issue is not simple and you've vastly oversimplified it. Sex is not a medical definition, it's a reproductive strategy. Humans, as well as all mammals, develop along one of two reproductive lines - small gametes and large gametes, or those who can impregnate and those who can get pregnant. There are those whose chromosomes may differ due to an abnormality but there is no third gamete and mammals are incapable of changing their sex. Even intersex individuals are only capable of producing either small or large gametes, therefore they are always either male or female.
Gender, on the other hand, has always been considered a more polite way to refer to one's sex until activists decided to try to justify gender ideology by warping the language and making gender a "feeling". Gender, however the language is twisted in current year, is still a synonym for sex for the vast majority of English-speaking humans. Most people, including myself, are happy to accommodate people's desire to present themselves however they so choose, but I'm not going to call a male a woman and I do not accept that the word woman has come to mean many different things. Unless you're an activist, you know exactly what is meant by the word woman and that is adult human female, as distinct from juvenile human female, and as distinct from adult human male, no matter how he dresses. Socially, it is not at all fair to pretend that biological reality is secondary to someone's feelings, nor is it kind to go along with delusion. And this is before you look into the harm caused by gender ideology as a social contagion. There are swathes of detransitioners whose bodies will never recover from the hormonal and surgical interventions performed on them after society convinced them they were born in the wrong body. Self-deletion rates do not improve in gender distressed individuals after transition. Apart from anything else, that shows transition is not an effective healthcare solution for these people. As I said, I support the right of any adult to make whatever decision feels right for them and their body, but to pretend this is something that simply requires society to be a little kinder is woefully naive.
@@platypups Yes, as I said, changing some areas of the language would make things easier for many. Because neither "side" is speaking to the other in ways that that that other can understand, using the same words, but with *vastly* different language and definitions.
The thing is, you vomited wonderfully accurate science all over us all. But this isn't a science issue. It's a series of societal ones, psychological ones. And, in the end, also individual ones.
A language one, as all things are, when dealing with ideas.
Kindness is all well and good, but it doesn't actually make things change in any direction. Nor does it advance the understanding of the issue at all. Learning to talk to each other using the same words with the same definitions that BOTH understand and agree on is always the first step to understanding.
Otherwise we still have one group saying these words, and the other using the same ords... and each side refusing to understand.
Which I am fully convinced is what is happening, *deliberately.* Languages change. English especially. Those, like yourself who flat out refuse to see any changes to the language as they get older is not a new thing. Happens every generation. Yet changes happen every generation too.
And anyone who says they DO understand it is flat out lying. Even those within the processes of "transitioning" are gaining experience with it... but no one has that experience over a lifetime as yet. Stating things like "society convinced them" that this as a thing they wanted is awfully ignorant. And arrogant. "Showing them it as an option" is perhaps closer to accurate. That it may or may not be an option that actually helps them in any direct way related to the issues they are having, is a different story; one that should be far more heavily explored before changes are made that are irreversible. And is as varied as all psychological issues are, being rather heavily case by case differentiated.
Personally from what I have observed so far just like in most major decisions, it raises as many issues as it alleviates. It can solve *one* major issue, if they suffer from it... but will not be without consequences, raising new issues.
Australia and New Zealand aren't nearly as far gone as the US, the UK, and Canada. It's still uncontroversial here, for example, that there's a difference between men and women. Even in academia and so forth it's relatively unusual to see pronouns in email signatures.
I'm in Australia and this has not been my experience at all, re academia. Each one of my classes has at least 1-3 trans individuals in it and we are forced to share pronouns before starting each class. Pronouns are in every teacher's email signatures. And horrid erstwhile premier of Victoria Dictator Dan Andrews snuck through hate speech laws before he left office. You can be fined or jailed for misgendering now. I agree, the majority of the populace sees right through it, but in every workplace that's arts-oriented you can't escape it, and the same goes for universities.
@@platypups, I had no idea. Perhaps it's my field, which isn't particularly arts-oriented, at least "down-under". However, as far as I know, the fleld may as well be "arts-oriented" in Canada - where a (cisgendered male heterosexual) academic suggested to me that I change my "(s)he"/"him/her" references in a paper to "they"/"them" references, so as not to offend any non-binary readers. I didn't really mind, but the paper turned out less clear for it!
New Zealand?? Didn't it start there?!! I thought Johny Money who is considered the main proponent of this was from New Zealand.
@@9395gb, I'm not sure that I'd say that. Money was also a US national and US-educated. Plus he had a lot of views that you wouldn't describe as woke. For example, it was a given for him that there's a *biological* difference between men and women. Also, he was one of the first to suggest that gender's a matter of nurture, not nature.
Spike going woke
(spike is just a pressure release valve)
Tom and Jerrys dog?
They always have been, they are essentially woke lite.
? how?
Your comment on Nicola Sturgeon is wrong. It was the prison service who put the transsexual in a woman’s prison (in solitary). It was Sturgeon who had her removed.
Only because it became public knowledge and she had no other choice.
You...people understand hat rapists go to prison and commit sexual assault there, right? This is not a new problem, and it didn't magically become more dire because penetrative heterosexual rape was involved.
You realise that men are more equipped to fight other men off than women are, right? And that males who have been sent to prison for graping women are significantly more likely to assault others in prison if they are women than men as that's where the attraction lies? And that grapists in male prisons are significantly more likely to be beaten up by the other inmates for what they've done than be able to do what you describe?
Add on to that the difference in strength between trans "women" and natural born women, and it's like letting a fox into the hen house..