Skateboarding in a storm drainage channel in San Diego in 1986
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- September 2, 1986
A storm drainage channel along Imperial Avenue in Encanto made for the perfect skate park. Most of the parks were shut down due to liability issues so skateboarders were looking for new places to practice their craft. The city was worried they could be sued by injured skaters and were planning ways to deter them from skating in this unauthorized location. Skaters were frustrated that they had little options as Del Mar Skate Ranch was the only park still open. Our reporter Dave Cohen suggested that they contact their council representative Gloria McCall to try to find a solution to their problem-they said they would.
Original half pipe 1977: • Tom Stewart's Half-pip...
This news show did a great job destroying stereotypes and the common narrative, just by letting a couple of skaters to speak a few sentences.
ikr this is the true spirit of journalism
It's the news what do you expect lmao
@@JR-po5vs I usually expect biased opinions and propaganda.
@@randyralls9658 that’s because you watch news that’s based on politics.
Watch news that deals with everyday funny scenarios
The kids back then were quite articulate.
Cities always come up with bogus reasons to keep skaters away. A skater will never sue the city due to injury, it's a full risk-assumed sport. Skaters get injured all the time at spots in the streets, and sometimes the owner of the spot is nice enough to let them continue, and the skater will thank them. Ask any skater. If a city really thinks they'll be sued, just place "owners are not liable for personal injury" signs.
As a person who's not living in the US it baffles me how people over there will sue you for any minor inconvenience just because, well, they can.
But yeah, skaters know the risks and they won't blame and sue the owner of the spot if they get injured. That would just be ridiculous.
So true man. The second you throw that board down and hop on it's your fault if you get fucked up but nobody wants to truly acknowledge that without assuming blame will be placed lol. But imposing laws and creating limitations based on pure assumptions/insinuations is something us skaters have faced for decades. Shred on!
White people.... plain and simple
For real.. the ONLY way I see that happening is if the kid is underage and they have douchey parents whom have no morals and see a quick cash grab opportunity. And even in that case I'm sure the kid would be totally against it. Skateboarders aren't petty, it's almost like a tool that could be used to weed out the petty.
@@Remu- If you don't live here, why would you say people constantly get sued? I don't know anyone that has been sued or anyone that sued someone else. Suing someone is a nightmare and expensive. My step dad was almost sued a couple times but he used to beat people up in the street all the time when we were growing up lol
This kid was ahead of his time shredding it up with some fresh #1 J’s!
Nahh he was just a common skater shredding it in that era... its well documented that the Air Jordan 1 was one of the first sneakers that became universally adopted by skateboarders as a "skate shoe" before their were skate shoes... The AJ1 has such a significant history with-in the world of skateboarding that Jordan brand actually released a Lance Moutain limited edition AJ 1.
Still always gets me hyped though to come across old footage of skaters wearing Jordans... because it is such a hype beast thing by todays standards, but back then it was actually common to see skaters in the streets wearing Jordan sneakers.
what homeboy said they were pretty typical skate shoes back then
Best grips at the time. They weren't $200 either
No... people are going back in time today. And the rich are making money off of dummies who will pay $200 for an ugly pair of shoes that cost $10 in material, and a hungry 13 year old boy in China is paid $0.30 to make the shoe. Nike is disgusting.
@Austin NightEyes yes. They are huge on sweat shops.
Fast forward 35+ years and every city has multiple federally funded skate parks with designs and quality built by commercial contracted skate park builders surpassing most of the privatized ones of yesteryear!
@@Owjdnskoakansbskk I've seen some here in minnesota that look good and are used.
My city doesn't have one..
And the storm drains are filled with trash and debris
Sadly not every city including some places that definently qualify as cities (I know new orleans just got there first legally built one) without a doubt and frankly many European and Latin American countries are ahead way ahead of the US in terms embracing skateboarding outside of strictly defined skateparks
And they're overrun with toddlers on scooters there with their parents with zero tact in regard to the skaters rights to be there too
A great part of skateboarding as a teen was exploring the city, going from spot to spot, looking for cool places to skate. The threat of being kicked out or chased by the cops added even more fun to the experience.
I still see places through the lens of spots
And mocking rollerbladers
What’s your IG?
Yes, but there should be decent places for people to skate without worrying about all of that. Im a girl and skateboarding alone I'd much rather be at a designated spot where there are lights and people. Sometimes when I'm with my friends I can go look for spots and stuff but it can be dangerous and I don't always want to be worried that pigs will come hassle me and shit. And sometimes you just wanna get stoned and do some light stuff at the park.
There should be decent parks and if there aren't they shouldn't be trying to push us out of everywhere.
@@sjk7467 I agree there should be parks, and also we had very little money at that age so I think the skateparks should be free / public. When my friends weren't around I would stick to the safe spots in my immediate neighborhood, like the high school on weekends, all the exploration I'm talking about was in groups of like 5 kids, and we were in a safe town back in the 90s.
skateboarders are the most resilient and determined types of teenagers you’ll ever meet, so to assume they’ll SUE for practicing a sport they love (and knowingly can get injured in) is insane and bad generalization
One kids parents really talked about suing the local shop after an injury (broken thumb). Yeah the skaters exiled that kid lol
us skateboarders have to be because if we aren’t every place to skate will be gone, it’s kind of funny that skateboarding is in the olympics with how much everyone seems to hate skateboarders
I think that's a fair statement... but there only has to be one person that ruins it for everyone. You would hope a judge would just toss it but it still creates a legal headache.
Usually its the parents too, not the skater.
Little did they know that this style was gonna come back.
It never went away
@old man strength yeah. Makes em look like they got a pooch. Not flattering. Yoga pants on the other hand.....
@old man strength its cuz they all became too fat for their 00s low cuts. it would be muffintop city if those were still in style.
Does anyone else watch old videos just to remember and see how the world used to be? Sure there have always been troubles, but these strange days have a full on spirit of fear and cold hearts.
This is California, San Diego to be exact. It's a whole different world out there. They are so opened minded and always have been. Just go visit now, it's nothing like where the rest of the world lives
lolwut. SoCal is pure commie totalitarianism. It's why everyone's fleeing the state.
People are over sensitive and are full of virtue signaling
Yes
@@ThePeacePlant lmao your arabic fucks my reply up
The Ditch where I grew up is gone. There is something about skating stuff that wasn't made for skateboarding.
Street skating finds an unintended application for all sorts of urban construct's.
@@davidchevez4690 They paved the paradise, so we adapted. Cheers.
I grew up skating in Santa Ana in the 80's-90's and we had "The Lip." It was a big concave drainage ditch with a mini-spine and a concrete drainage drop-in. You'd skate down into this long drop-in, hit the side with no vertical then set up to do a trick off of the mini-spine on the other side. I remember trying to do an invert off of it. This took me back to that. So many good times
Bit different but we used to hang out at a big water tower in the bush on the top of the mountain, we built heaps of dirt jumps and tracks for the bikes, once we got older we had dirtbike and 4wd tracks, use to camp there, make big fires and get up to mischief, lasted years until houses started getting built closer and cops were getting called....good times
Flower Street , Loyd Bank , Sadland BackDoor.
Sounds like Flower street ditch. Learned f.s. airs there. I wish I had some pictures of that place.
Bums lived in the orange trees and critiqued ,,,,,, heckled our skating.
Yup, I grew up in the same time period and area in Santa Ana, Fullerton & Irvine. We really witnessed the birth of skating culture. There were tons of spots we'd skate & some business owners let us, others called the cops. Skaters we're just having fun but we were treated like pathetic gang bangers. I got into BMX and there used to be an awesome track in Irvine (that city gave us kids spots to practice our sport) but now it's a damn parking lot for a baseball field.
Sounds like damn good time
back when the news covered cool stuff
Nowadays it would be a hitpiece on the white supremacist roots of skateboarding and the suffering it causes bipocs and "the trans community."
@@CompassIIDX who owns the media?
ever 100 or so years they try to repeat things... world trade center struck by false flag as pretext for war 2001... 1899 USS maine false flagged as a pretext for war... both inflated by the media. The morning of the 11th of sept, there were a seect individuals who received *ODIGO WARNING MESSAGES* about the impending attacks. the irsraelis did it.
@@CompassIIDX *Bruno Baum 1949 MEMOIRS* he brags about sneaking a camera into the shower rooms at the camps to label them as gassling chambers to use as propaganda for the world. pages 33 to 36
When you realize that people like this are the targets and not people causing real crime
That Encanto ditch is still skatable to this day!
Where is it?
@@Penafilm imperial ave and 69th street south east sandiego
This is a treasure.
Bonelesses , Front side disasters , reverts , shredding for real the surf way yknow , just to think gonz was grinding rails at this time , wild .
I think the most interesting part of this video is how much skateboarding had evolved. From boneless and disasters to crazy surreal flip tricks
This is rad👍Skateboarding kept me away from gangs and kept me out of trouble.
i would skate to school and spend my bus money on beer after school. lol.
This is amazing footage of 80's skating. That was a rad time.
This skateboarding resulted in zero deaths.
Exactly, they all were indeed skating, hence the phrase: Skate or Die!
they would rather have you skating in the streets with traffic. Then they can have their blood.
I had my Powell Peralta Caballero back then, if we all knew of this place, we’d have been there everyday during summer. Looks fun
I grew up in Clairemont during these years, me and my buddies would skate at Marston Middle school, they have a huge bank on the side of the school next to the softball field at the recreation park, it was so fun
Cab is still at it and still killing it. 40 years as a pro, beats laying brick or roofing for a living.
@@buckodonnghaile4309 absolutely
Still here in CLMT! 🤘🏼
Remember that school! We probably skated it together 🤘🏼
WE NEED MORE SKATEPARKS
But apartments!
In the 30 years that I skateboarded and the hundreds of people that I know that skateboarded never did I ever hear a story about somebody suing a property owner because they were injured skateboarding on said property.. not once. But every property acts like they've been sued multiple times by skateboarders in the past.
We built our first backyard ramp in 1985. We had everyone who skated, sign a release waiver. I agree though. Never heard of it either.
Never heard of someone suing a property owner because they hurt themselves. But here is a very unusual story from about 2003 in Vancouver.
We were skating downtown Vancity and a random pedestrian jumped in front of my buddy rolling up to a stair case and about 2 feet away. It was 9am on a Sunday, in a spot that even on a weekday would have had low foot traffic and wasn't a security guard risk. The guy gave no indication that he even had a problem. We didn't even see him come up to us at this spot. It wasn't in a walkway or anything.
So my pal got spooked by this random dude psyching him out and had to bail mid jump. Not difficult. I don't remember what trick he was doing, probably a kickflip though, because he had them down. Any was he kind of hippy jumped when he bailed instead of ollying and kicking the board away, and landed on the board awkwardly. Broke his ankle. We were all surprised, cause like I said we hadn't even noticed this guy.
It's at this point is that the pedestrian guy begins bitching about skateboarding being illegal, that some skaters damaged his property, typical skate-hater putting all skaters into the same pile. Meanwhile my pal is writhing in pain literally right below this guy.
So the dude decides that we aren't going to skate there anymore and continues blocking the stairs. At this point we're basically stopped because buddy is clearly badly hurt, and we're considering going to hospital. When the guy hears us talking about it, he thinks we're bullshitting so he calls the police on us. Cops show up, start giving us shit for skating on private property, the usual. We explain our situation, why we chose the spot, the fact that it was a Sunday morning and how this guy contributed to our friend breaking his ankle.
We were all ticketed, undersrandable. The guy was also ticketed and written up. But the kicker was, this spot was on se uriry camera, and my pal sued the pedestrian for lost wages, expenses accrued and pain & suffering. He ended up winning, and he was awarded fully for the lost wages but only half of the amount for pain & suffering because he was doing an activity that was inherently risky and also on private property.
Nevertheless it wasn't a small amount of money. Maybe less than 10 grand for the lost wages, but for the rest it was up into the 20 thousand dollar range. That could have been that dudes entire income at rhe time for a year.
Moral of the story; if you feel like stepping in on something in public that maybe is bothersome or illegal or immoral, just don't. Because realistically it ain't affecting a single person. It's just you're ego. Sometimes being right costs more than you can afford.
"Implied assumption of the risk"
Some states do have attractive nuisance doctrines as to minors though, California is not one of them.
I grew up skateboarding in the 90's in San Diego. We were the Mecca of skateboarding for close to two decades and I have never ever heard or nor thought of suing anybody when I hurt myself. The 90's baby, when the whole city was a skatepark! It was an amazing time to be young. So stoked the kids have a large amount of skateparks to ride these days. Back in the day we had the Encinitas YMCA skatepark and the long closed down Missile Park (RIP).
Same here, in Clairemont with the Voice/Shorty's crew! 🤘🏼
We just called it the aquaduct .I was lucky enough to to skate it in the 80s' and was so bummed when they killed it with the trolley . RIP Imperial Aquaduct !
I remember when that happened
How cool would it be, if one of the skaters recognized himself and did an Interview on how the story went back then! :-)
80s, 90s and very early 2000s this was how teens, kids use to play outside, no phones, also the internet was still new, these times have long gone by :(
No way! How did you figure all that out?
lmfao @ the idea of any skater anywhere suing anyone over an injury. 🤣🤦♂️
My elementary school was one of the best skate parks ever! Thanks Palmer way Elementary, National City CA. We skated and rode BMX there all through the early to mid 80s. I moved in 85 to a rural town in New Mexico and there was no pla r to skate. A lot of the roads still weren't paved. The bigger city 12 miles south of us had some great places to skate. I gave it up in 85 and concentrated on my guitar instead. Now I play music we used to skate to and write music I would be willing to skate to now. I miss the San Diego of the 80s.
Oh man you are from the exact same area as me, the Harbison tunnels were turned into skate spots. The schools were always good though.
@@jackofalltrades5904 Yes! Harbison and on Plaza Blvd. The tunnels to the right just passed Palmer Ways lower field across from the Plaza Appartments. Back in the 70s and early 80s there was a dirt half pipe there. It was awesome back then.
@@roosterj2599 I'm pretty sure it's still there, I don't know if Texas liquor was there back in the day but behind the liquor store had v shape tunnel/water way. Me and my friends started putting concrete making it a skate/bike able and as time went by a bunch of other kids kept doing it. We made it into a half pipe and afew ledges, they just kept going.
@@jackofalltrades5904 Yes. I remember the channel by Texas Liquor. I used to buy my cigarettes there back in the early 80s. There was a BMX shop by the Jack in the Box back then. They sold a lot of GT and Kashimax and Shimano parts and complete bikes.
@@roosterj2599 that jack n the box was my spot. I never seem anyone online that knew about all those spots. I was there in 90s and early 2000s before I moved to Chicago.
Those Jordan 1 Chicagos worth like 30 grand now 😭 crazy that he bought em for 65 retail
Who cares what shoes he is wearing you guys all sound like females.
A completely different world and society then. 36 years gone by in the blink of an eye. I wonder where Dave Cohen is now.
dead
Weird seeing history repeat itself with new generations picking up the same hobbies
I'm over 50 that's what we did in az skate the streets smoke some weed and did a all day skate with friends what a God time in life that KS for posting the video
I had a vision board in 1986..i was only 6 years old and i was a beast..its wierd how the body works ..cause im 42 now and i can barley stand up on a board..let alone drop in on a half pipe like i was able 2 back in the days ..
I like how the kid says "It's either I skateboard or do drugs and steal cars. "
Glad all of us 80's kids lived through the dark times of skateboarding that have lead to all the amazing skateparks kids have today.
Good to see someone actually using a pair of Jordans to do something other than stand around looking cool.
These guys are hella right with what they say 🔥
I loved the drug’s statement.
@@4uffin yeaa that was fr just a great fact . Skaters like us aren't always drug- taking junkies .
This is my old neighborhood. I grew up skating this exact spot in the late 90s. That whole imperial ave street that fallows the trolley tracks was full of good skate spots.
Thanks for the info.
We built the extension
This has always been a staple in our street skating we love places where we can be creative.
Ooo that spot looks or was perfect. Thanks for posting this little gem of a time and Era when that last park was holding on. Years later you probably have at least 2 in the city.
80s were tough. Ditches, Homemade ramps, shovels and brooms.....2 skate parks...upland and Del mar. Such a small community. looked at as someone being immature riding a toy. It was beautiful in it's effort required and humiliation of ego to session a photo mat curb
Some of those ramps were huge. But usually owned by a dick.
These kids are old men now, mad how quick time flies
I was a professional BMX freestyler and skater in the 80s and we were run out of every place we rode/skated. In all of my years of knowing and being just like these kids, I never knew a kid who got hurt and sued someone...nor did their parents. Getting hurt was just part of the plan and we had to respect it. Now in my 50s, I always stop to watch groups of skaters and make sure they know that there are some of us out there that really want them to keep riding. My son skates now, too. He's broken his wrist and one collarbone, but watching him get back on the board while in a cast or sling (while giving him the obligatory "you're not supposed to" with a wink) makes me very proud.
LET! THEM! SKATE! ✊
SKATEBOARDING IS NOT A CRIME ...aww I miss the 80's , such a great time to be a kid
Man, that front side boneless at 0:01 was soooo smooth.
Nice, SD throw back. The good ol days.
Those clothes still rock!!! Lol brought back some great memories 👍😊
Kids find something fun to do that's a physical outside activity that's not bothering or hurting anybody. And what do you do? You shut them down. Then you wonder why kids start using drugs or get there 15 year old girlfriend pregnant. You should have just let the kid skate.
Not that i disagree but at least in my area the skate park was where you got drugs. The older kids or adults hooked you up
We had a spot like this in Columbus OH in the 80's & 90's too. The Itch Ditch (surrounding area was covered in Poison Ivy LOL).
lmao
Sounds fukkin awesome 😄
@@beemelonhead1 I wonder if it's still there...
@@theheartofablackbird2109 scope it out dude!
This was the funnest time period in skateboarding in my opinion… skating ramps and just having fun with your friends all day. Right up until “street skating/tricks took over in the mid late 90s. I remember my friends and other skaters standing at the top of stair cases and trying tricks that made them miserable and usually ended with them screaming at the railing or literally falling 100x in one day…. I walked away from skating at that point I still don’t get the obsession with stair/rail and street skating. Skating use to be like surfing just flow and have fun to bad street skating took over like it did.
OKAY MICHAEL BOOMER
@@usingtubes errrrr good one I would imagine you’re younger than 30 which makes you part of the most laughable and pathetic generation to ever walk this planet:) Call me whatever you want it’s better than the pathetic young generation that exists today
Actually he would be Gen X.
I like both. I think more extreme street skating can be less about fun and more about accomplishment, satisfaction, and overcoming which are just as valid as feelings of simple fun. Its not for anyone but I assure you that most street skaters also like to cruise around on transition and do simple fun flowy tricks aswell and I'm sure its just as enjoyed now as it was in the past. it's all a matter of personal opinion but thanks for understanding my perspective!
I mean... big half pipes are just as dangerous and frustrating as a stair set to be honest...
Some serious shredding in this
Just people playing in a drain. Meh. Looks like fun to me. I wonder what it looks like on Google maps now..
It’s still there. Higher walls and very ruff. Not skateable.
I dont think I can see exactly the same area but close by
@@notyetskeletal4809
I live down the street, remember when people used to skate there. They changed it probably a couple years after this but not to stop skating. It collects a lot of rain and would flood all the time.
Wow so this is what reporting and news were like back in the day. Ah the good ol days
Soooo sic! We used to sk8 this ditch all summer long, as well as Sefton baseball ditch next to the 8 freeway and Taylor st exit. And mini Wallows on the south side of 8 east next to Ally’s Beef In. Best years ever!
That looks like a sick spot! Oh and those Jordan’s are worth 💰💰💰 these days.
This generation of kids grew up to make the beautiful skate parks we have today. Cheers 🍻
This was the vibe bruh
Me and my friends in high school turned an abandoned paper mill into a skate park. They have pools out back for a water reservoir that made great vert. We even repaired a few sections with quickcrete.
He’s wearing Jordan 1’s. Who would’ve thought how important and expensive those those would be 36 years later. They’re more popular now than they were back then.
The year I was born at Grossmont hospital. El Cajon, Santee, Cardiff, lakeside, San Marcos, Vista, Encinitas, Ramona. I love SD.
The search for animal chin! One of the best skate movies ever!
I'm sitting here, raspberry on my knee and elbow from this mornings fall still drying up, cracked heel from last weeks fall aching from this mornings fall, and not once did I say, this was the cities fault, I got up feeling like a dumbass, cause I'm the one who hops on a peice of wood with wheels for fun
And now San Diego is like Skatepark Mecca 😄💕👍
Back in my day we had a slogan, skateboarding is not a crime.
Sure miss the 80s.
That was awesome footage
Alot of people bash on skating and bmx because they know the skills the time and effort it takes to do these tricks. Unlike League sports that doesn't take any real skill and they get paid millions. But to action sports guys it's not about the money it's about the love a passion for the spot. Like in basketball or football or baseball or soccer. If you break a leg or a ankle or your knee that's it your done. But in action sports. That's all part of it. Your never done
I had that colorful hat and skateboard! Grr I wish I still have them
Jordan 1's and HAMMERHEAD boards the good ol bad days lol.....gotta love it!
I never understood that like when has a skateboarder ever sued
Edit : I sprained my ankle jumping off a stage at a park did I think I’m gonna sue nope I thought well that hurt got up and left
Lol so true!
I really want to see a single time a skateboarder sued for getting hurt skating city/corporate property. No skater is gonna do that. I feel like that was just a made up fear because older unhappy people can't stand to see youth actually having a good time in a perfectly innocent and non threatening manner. It's pathetic.
Policies against kids skating in a ditch is the most Karen crap ever.. "oh they're having fun not hurting or bothering anyone else! We absolutely cannot let this happen! Now how do we go about it without looking like the uptight, sad pricks we are? LIABILITY!"
You’re either not to bright or younger than 10 years old. Parents use to sue cities all the time back in the day when kids would get serious injuries. And I’m not talking broken bones. Kids use to have near life ending head and brain injuries in the 80s 90s. I’m all for skating but you sound dumb.
If that is the case than those are some weird people, with weird minds
86 was a good year for neon dye salesmen. There was gold in them there hills.
That news camera guy was a skateboarder for sure. He knew all of the gnarly angles.
Imagine how little problems there were in the 80s suburbs for this to be an issue.
it feels weird knowing all those teens are around the same age as my dad now
Imagine telling the adults back then that this would be an Olympic sport in a few decades.
Imagine telling the kids back then? I would have told you were nuts as we were getting hounded by the police everywhere we skated. It was fun though
Those Breds in the beginning are fresh af.
Ha thats Billy skate boarding telling Max to go home.
Jam's boardshorts. Memories.
“It’s better than doin drugs”
*pans to the guy doin both*
Now this is some good throwback content. Nice
Pioneers of the sport!
Wish ppl could skate 1985 jordans like this now
they'll fall apart
@@entertainme7523 Not true its just expensive
The good ole days
The funny thing is if this footage was more HD this could be a modern video because skaters look exactly the same today
Damn. Almost 4 decades now and aint shit changed.
Big issues in 1986😂
The world was different then.
@@damianstachelski775 Yeah I’m aware, I’m 48.
Man Imperial Ave sure has changed.
Awesome reporting!
It sucks all the canary palms are dying in SD.
Why do people hate on skaters so much all we do is mind our business
Was born 1986, would of loved to live in this era rather than what's happening now...
Born in 77. Man, you are not wrong. I wish every kid could have grown up in the 80s. It was the last great time to be a kid.
almost 30 years later and skaters, bmx riders, and everyone else still using dried up riverbeds
I wonder how much those beautiful red & white Nike Dunks would go now & days if they were still pristine🤔
East coast here.....I used to skate during this time frame. The skateparks went out of business not only due to liability but also because the skateboard industry was in a decline at that time. Simply put most kids were not interested anymore so the money slowed down considerably. There were always a handful of hardcore skate companies in business but the skate industry at this time was NO way near the money machine it is now. I find it amusing that as skateboarding became more mainstream and non skateboarding companies cough cough* (Nike) started to notice then more and more parks started to pop up. Where were the public parks in the mid to late 80's? Simple answer....no financial backing. It's kind of bittersweet now that I am old and there are public parks all over the place even here on the east coast. As a kid in 1989 I would have sold my soul for 1 park.
I still have my Santa Cruz Corey o’brian from 1987 with venture trucks and Powell peralta wheels and still has the SKATEBOARDING IS NOT A CRIME sticker still there👍😁
That guys OG Jordan highs 🤩
Those shoes are worth over 20000$ in good condition now (air jordan 1 chicago 1985)
Back when San Diego was respectable
Now they are making 8 year olds wear masks at school. California is a failed state.
It still is. Its paradise out there, coming from the south of USA is so much different
man back than summer use to feel so long...
That boi got them Chicago 1s!!!