Harvard Professor Condemns GOP’s Jan. 6 Response
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- The co-authors of “How Democracies Die,” Steven Levitsky and Daniel Ziblatt, join Lawrence O’Donnell to discuss America’s antidemocratic institutions in an episode of our series, “A House Divided.”
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The difference between attacks on government buildings like the one in France and Jan. 6 is that the one in France was driven by the will of the people. The Jan. 6 attack was driven by the will of a rich guy who felt entitled to a second term.
That's a very big difference indeed. One would think it should be more obvious.
Or was it by a party that controlled the rich guy and use him as a scapegoat?
I give you credit for that, you right, I totally agree with your comment.
@@garyoa1 Yup. Trumputin was and is just a useful TOOL/FOOL who is now becoming a liability.
Not sure you're talking about the same attack in France.. The february 1934 attack on the parlement was led by far-right groups largely inspired by italian fascism & Mussolini's blackshirts... Similar but less important attacks happened elswhere in Europe during the 1930's, also inspired by italian fascism..
Not sure I agree with the interviewee about the fact that french democracy fell six years later: this was largely due to the nazi invasion... between 1935 & 1940, fascists movements largely fell out of favor with the general population
Until 2016, 44 presidents came and went. Some were great leaders, some not so great. However, not one of them was a traitor. Until 45.
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I am sorry they did not discuss the fact that our judicial system seems to be unable to deal with crimes committed by the highest level of people in the last administration despite the preponderance of evidence.
Is it still true that we are all equally accountable under the law, and that lady justice is blindfolded, or this is just another bill of goods that we were sold, just like that "American dream and American exceptionalism"?
Thank You LIZ CHANEY and ALL of the Committee Members 🙏......
GOD BLESS EVERYONE Working on the Committee 🙏.....AMEN
Amen....and thank God the committee is on the ball, because Garland's DOJ is as feeble as the Russian Parliament and the GOP.
To ensure this doesn't happen again; independents, GOP and democrats must band together to vote midterms blue 💙 🇺🇸 let's safeguard American democracy against anti-democratic GOP leadership
I like Kinzinger’s plan to elect anti-Trump republicans in Republican states . I.E Liz Cheney in Wyoming.
Thank God for our constitutional republic
@@Eric95372 the entire GOP needs to go the way of the wig party, totally extinct.
I would suggest all Americans have to work together to create a climate where there would be no more competing parties, only citizens, working together for the common good. And while it is all good and well to thank God, it is down to every citizen to do the heavy hauling.
Its all going to get white wash
Very interesting piece, Lawrence. I’ve had the same thoughts that the majority in the US will never accept a fascist dictatorship. The majority of the military would never follow Trump to authoritarianism. The person that seems to be ‘getting away with murder’ in this whole debacle is Rupert Murdoch. Someone has to ask him, ‘Why sir, why do you want to destroy American democracy?’
I wouldn't call Murdach sir.
@renideo Really?? Then who is it that sets the overall direction of FOX and his other propaganda operations?
It’s not just America he’s destroying for profit. 😕
@@coreyham3753 probably his son makes those basic decisions, and hands off the rest to his top managers. It’s all about the bottom line for them, and fear sells more than hope. 😕
Murdoch has already destroyed the UK with his media there.
I am all for getting rid of the electoral college all together. I'm also all for online voting, voting by mail, and having the ability to double check your vote after you've cast it.
Well, that would create other kind of problems. Better extend the period for mail voting, and change Election day to Saturday and Sunday, and double the voting sites.
I had dread in 2015 during Diaper Don's campaign rallies. He is a scourge on humanity. .
I watch and wait every day for justice to catch up with that evil narcissist - what happens in your country has a definite impact on the rest of the world. I wish you peace of mind as you live through this awful time in history.
@Danny Horworth the Orange One doesn’t need an easy ticket to martyrdom. He can better use a long stint of sitting in a cell being ignored after he goes bankrupt.
That's one thing that blows me away. It has been obvious since 2015 he would do ANYTHING to get power, and for years the left or the media wanted to give him a chance. The right knew what they were doing I think.
God screwed up when he invented Diaper Don.
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''If we slip into the spring without protecting our democracy, we're going to regret that probably for the rest of time.'' - David Plouffe
If we slip into Merrick Garland's DOJ fantasy world, we're screwed mightily. That guy is severely disabled.
This is an unimaginably dangerous situation. Garland must recognize that or his name will be in the same muck as Lindsey Graham.
I was thinking Neville Chamberlain.
Its all going to get white wash
History is breathing over Garland's shoulders. If he gets this wrong or delays too long the barbarians will win.
I'm thinking deputy Barney Fife.
Everyone wants to attack the guy that is actually working to do something, why not attack all the vile opposition that every investigation is being met with from the Right! Attack the vile, complicit GOP Senate that is in cohorts with Putin, (why did two dozen of them run over to 'kiss his ring'). We have 167 seditious, vile congressmen with their noses tightly up agains drumpf's butt, attack them!!!!! They are the ones that are vehemently opposing the truth, not the AG!!!
At a time when our democracy is under assault ..the US needs an ex-prosecutor leading the DOJ ...not an ex jurist ...We saw , in Mueller , what happens when someone is so overly meticulous in staying within the letter of the law .......
Not "overly meticulous in staying within the letter of the law," but overly adherent to the norms of _politesse._
Word: Oklahoma and McVey.....Merrick Garland....cut through the angst and red tape!
Exactly! And the Mueller Report went nowhere. We got a redacted version... we should have revolted then!
Thank-you we are long overdue to get rid of the Electoral College! We have tiny little states running us into the ground. Get rid of the filibuster.
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In Greek mythology, Casandra was gifted with the ability to tell the future yet was unable to convince anyone of the event.
Many people has warned us of the danger of Trump and the rise of extreme groups but too many just didn’t believe the warnings towards our democracy.
Well said. Too many people blinded by the bling and the bull...sh..t.
Far too few listening now. Even less doing something about it.
An outstanding contribution, this segment, Lawrence; well done. KEEP IT UP, because Americans NEED clear information, context, historical facts, and analysis targeted to support & inform our most noble yearning--for a truly democratic government in our nation.
The people who need it won't watch it, as they get all of their "facts" from Tucker.
Yes, well said. Unfortunately, the people that need to hear this information aren’t receptive to it. They’ve been gravely brainwashed by the GOP and right-wing fake media.
I used to have faith in the american people till Trump came along. Jan 6th is a reminder to me on how gullible the american people can be and how fragile our republic truly is.
Biden is far worse and I can't believe people were gullible enough to vote for him. If people paid attention his poor performance was obvious. With Trump it was obvious that the American people were being lied to by the media and Democrat's. For instance Russia was a ploy by Democrat's to smear Trump when all the investigations pointed to that. The Hunter Biden stuff was buried but now the investigation is approaching 2 years along with the origins of the Russia hoax.
@@shanetowne6530 Trump was a disgrace to the office an embarrassment to the nation and a laughingstock to the world. He behaves foolishly he says foolish things he's obviously a fool. Anyone and I mean anyone is superior to Trump.
@@seymourbutts4654 Trump did alot of good but most people never looked into any of it just believed what they heard. John Durham is investigating Democrat's for thier Russia lies right now. His bills on veterans reform, anti human trafficking legislation, donating his salary, all did good. I agree he had a big mouth but was good with policy. Biden is far worse from Afghanistan, economy, race baiting, he's senile, never been right about anything, he even got cought plagiarizing and had to drop out of a presidential race.
@@shanetowne6530 All a person has to do is listen to Trump himself. No media needed at all.
@@shanetowne6530 I find it funny how you dismiss one investigation as partisan and then embrace the next partisan investigation. You people make no sense.
Red stands for anger, R means reject, vote blue.
In some circles, red is also symbolic of communism. Consider Republicans' incessant projection.
Vote anything but GOOP!
Now THAT was an interesting conversation with some really credible guests.
Thanks for that!
Respectfully they're insulting everyone's intelligence! Anyone a brain in their head little grey cell in their head! Fully new Trump's plan of trying to be a dictator. Please don't get credit where credit is not due.
Who cares what he thinks. Oh, he on for his book. Haha.
Yes Cory, some hope from Mr. Ziblatt and Mr. Levitsky.
"The Rabble" sums the participants up quite well.
the commentator is a historian and a deeper insight into the present ... as a behavioral scientist it is good to see the historians included in the discussion ... we the people are certianly getting an education into us as a nation ... this is revolutionary in behavioral terms ...
You must be having a field day as a behavioral scientist. What interesting times we live in.
The GOP's response? I think we can say that the entirety of the Republican Party is worthy of condemnation. What's left of them to admire or extol?
What was Dem constituents response? Sitting on the COUCH eating popcorn!!!
Just as shameful!!!! 💯
@@dawnoceanside7300 that was dumb! Not 1 repub are doing there jobs or what they were voted in office to do! Looks like the dems are actually trying to do their jobs! You Amerikkans who are repubs have no shame. That’s even more shameful 💯
@@dawnoceanside7300 I think the Dems managed some outrage.
they are, at this point, worthy of extinction.
@@dawnoceanside7300 your off to see the Wizard Scarecrow!!! I hope you find a brain!!
…instability is exactly want Putin has intended. He will win. Thank Murdoch for his success.
I am ashamed that Murdoch was once an Australian - he is an evil old b...d who wields too much power, none of it serving for the good of anyone who is genuinely concerned about democracy, the destructive nature of corporate greed or the well being of the planet.
Or MSNBC propaganda.
AG Garland is frustrating to understand
Indeed AG Garland is frustrating 😠
Garland must be dating a Fascist.
they are not ELITE they are Privileged.
Are they Exec'd, too?
So the Filibuster, The Electoral College & The Whole Voting System needs to be changed ! - O.K. - Now that we've got that out of the way, What Next ? - See that was easy ! - Vote Democrat if you want to Live ... Free !
The USA is long overdue for some real reforms and make it a better democracy where the majority rule. And people are represented more fairly
We as americans should boycott every single instituion that doesnt condem the republucan party as a whole, and we should question every single one to put them on the spot.
I take your point, but how do you boycott an institution?
Do whatever it takes to vote Blue in November in 2022 or else America will face the same fate as Venezuela, Russia , and Hungary. Do we really want those kind of governments?
ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! EXACTLY 💯 %😱🗽🇺🇲👎🙏
Thank you, Professor's for your explanations of what's really happening in our country minus the emotions. The use of the filibuster by Senator's Manchin, Sinama and the Republicans for the suppression of voting rights and the nullification of votes duly cast was nearly if not a death blow to democracy, very devastating. We knew democracy was on life support after that vote. As redundant as it may sound our only hope is to still 🗳 vote in overwhelming number's to get the elected official's whose willing to revive and give America a transfusion of justice for all. ⚖️
TrueGOP leaders wouldn't let Trump make puppets out of them
GOP Senator's aren't all bad just the puppets
@@willardsimpson5461 name 5 gop senators that aren't?
It's funny how all the Dem's have used the filibuster. Including flip flop Joe. Don't forget all these guys are feeding you this to get thier own gains. Notice how both Democrat's and Republicans both say they don't believe in our voting system because of the other side. It would seem like tge people are getting screwed by the federal government and the current administration is doing everthing they accused the other side of doing.
following the administration before.. come on republicans and Dems do the same thing..bt blame the other and in the long run who gets screwed...we the ppl...
I read these fellas’ book. Scary stuff. We’re there.
Knowing and acknowledging we’re there means we can start looking for answers that’ll serve the majority of Americans when it’s all behind us.
The only country in the world left with an entire backassward political system that will ensure it’s own demise yet refuses to change!
N I C E!!
At least Argentina has a healthy democracy!
As a Canadian well aware of how parliamentary systems work, I could never figure out how the American model worked. How is it that the popular poll results (e.g. no wars, healthcare, etc.) never get voted on or proposed by your major parties or leaders? Why does it cost a $ billion to run for president and take as long as two years? (Our elections are 30 days.) How do you get laws passed? Somehow, it all works.
Democrats have stood by the poor, elderly and disabled through the years with social safety nets. Republicans cut food stamps and meals on wheels for the elderly and tried to eliminate Obamacare during a global pandemic with no replacement!
It is SO NOT WORKING!! I Don't know how 2 FIX IT? The Republicans r "Blocking" Bills so that Democrats don't get "a WIN"...even though a Lot of those Bills would BENEFIT ALL AMERICANS! 🗽🇺🇲😡😪😱❣
It’s a crap system I agree!
"Endemic Regime Instability": USA is there already.
That had nothing to do with it. It's been 35 years of not taxing the 1% since Ronald Reagan lead us finally to trump.
Making people get a vaccine for work or school is not wrong. We all had to get vaccines before we went to school.
Do what you can to help other Americans.
I don’t share your fear, but I can definitely see that path being explored by the opposition party, and that alone is a sobering thing to witness. We’re better as a nation of Americans than the GOP keeps telling their base, and we sensible citizens outnumber them by quite a bit. I like our chances of coming through this tantrum stronger as a nation. Not saying it’ll be easy, just that I have faith in our social core to do the right thing.
Endemic Liars in the GOP and a severely inept DOJ. THANK GOD FOR THE JAN 6 COMMITTEE. HOW DID THE USA LUCK OUT WITH SUCH A GREAT COMMITTEE?
Agreed from over here in New Zealand where we have made some big improvements to our electoral system. Ie MMP. and enforcing our founding Treaty of Waitangi.
What's happening with de joy, he should be charged with the destruction of government property, he's personally made sure ballots did not arrive in time. It's gone quiet in his neck of the woods. We all need to do our bit in getting our voting rights back on track and not let the Republicans destroy anything good.
Every time I see an XPO truck I curse him. He's literally trying to X out the P. O.!
Martinez is the new Chairman of the Board...and described as an ally of DeJoy's....Isn't THAT special? I thought changes were going to be made to the Board of Directors to dig out that fat tick DeJoy. What is going on?
Excellent observation Prof.
Very interesting listing to these professors this is why we need to get rid of the electoral college it is out dated and change the rule on the how many Senators a state Gets perfect example is CA versus SD&ND less than 2Million people in these two states but they have 4 senators and CA with over 40Million people has only 2 Senators how is that a real democracy when the minority has twice as many Senators as a state that has over 2000% more people like CA. Time to deal with these inequities give the states with more people more Senators or take away the Senators from the states with lower population. ND/SD each get one Senator that seems fair.
It's far, far worse than that. California's population in 2022 is about 39.66 million. The 21 least populous states have a total of 37.31 million. Those 21 states have 42 senators compared to California's 2. It takes a bit of nerve to call ourselves a representative republic. It takes unmitigated gall for the Republican party to insist that our system is rigged against it.
There must be a difference between the Senate and the House. The problem is that the Senate should only deal with domestic inter-states issues, not with Foreign Relations, and veto power over Budgets and Deficits; but at the same time the Senate is formed for more mature and supposedly wiser politicians, more capable for dealing with those issues. The real reason for the Senate is not explicitly said, because it would mean saying that The House has too many immature, sometimes loony, representatives. For two centuries the two-for-state worked because the polarization was not of most-of-the-little-ones in the minority of Popular Vote side, but now ....
The United States needs to modernize its constitution. It's older than its counterparts in most European countries. Canada's modern constitution was adopted in 1982.
I would like to have heard more of that - seemed to be cut mid-discussion
What's sad is there's a big part of the population that cares less about anyone being against Jan 6. There's little nuance remaining. There's few Trump supporters who can support him but also see that the peaceful transfer of power is everything
I feel like both of these gentlemen are more interested in convincing us that things aren’t as bad as they are than telling the truth. We are in real danger in the US.
I felt the danger.
Our whole nation is on the verge of splintering into factions.
@@camerondavis8356 only if we allow that to happen.
@@sweetsue4204 ...well, the problem is "we" ARE allowing it to happen. Garland is a very weak man.
Agree. Are we supposed to appeased with an unstable democracy?
At least Americans get to elect their senators. Here in Italy, it's the party that names who gets to be the senators that represent the party not the people.
I think it is the people that has a membership in the party that elect the leader.
For the Supreme Court to uphold democracy no more than it has,
made it extremely difficult to uphold a powerless position.
Hearing "we don't really have a democracy" is like hearing, in one's 30's for the first time, that one is adopted. Btw, I concur with the two sage professors.
*Vote America! Vote Democrat! Vote for Democracy! Vote 2022 + 2024 +....!🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊!*
Vote Democrat......just leave Munchkin and Cinnamon out!!
CLUE: When cash is speech and corporations are people, fascism is perfectly normal. You're welcome!
Citizens United is worse than legalized corruption.
Jan 6 was like back to Stone Age
A b s o l u t e l y !!!!
This is how democracies die, by not adapting to the times that they exist in. Evolution: evolve or die. The irony is that the amendments were designed to do exactly that, but they cannot change the basic structures. Here in the UK, perhaps one of the oldest democratic structures (I hesitate to call it one of the oldest democracies), we also rarely have a govt with majority rule. The term "democracy" in its basic definition means rule by an elected representative rather than a hereditary ruler. However, today is often taken to mean majority rule. Our earliest Parliaments simply had an elected (by the nobility) assembly that advised the king and held the purse strings. That's the important bit. Parliament was elected by the wealthy, those with the land and ability to raise money and indeed armies. Today, although we still have a monarch who still exerts too much power, our leader is called a Prime Minister. Our current one, our very own clown with no clothes, is grabbing power and sees himself as some sort of Roman emperror. Yes, that is what we are now finding out. Deluded and dangerous... much like your Mr Trump.
It seems this is a trend catching on around the globe unfortunately. Really hope you all are able to deal with your dictator wannabe better than we are here in the USA.
*It's pretty simple... as the RICH GOT RICHER our Democracy became Weaker!*
Garland.....Arrest Somebody !!!!!!
Garland should at least resign himself.
It is either America continues as democracy or not, but if it is going to die, why given the privilege to trump?
Yeah, why does the Electoral College still exists in the United States in this day and age?
Because the founding fathers were geniuses, States rights are what helps us not become a dictatorship
Seems like we’re pretty close to an oligarchy! Certainly the rich have a different set of rules and accountability!
Outstanding frightening summary 👏 👏👏👏👏👏👏
Get rid of the electoral college and replace it with national popular vote for president.
Yes. Yes. Yes. One Person, One Vote is Too normal for it to become reality but that would solve big problems and be a lot less complicated without a bunch of electoral scoundrels ruining the swamp even more.
Americans need help, support, facts, knowledge, education, awareness, cognitive thinking, meditation, peace of mind, and etc.‼️Hopefully some Americans will sober up and wakeup from their alternate reality‼️
They keep saying it’s not democratic, but aren’t we a Republic?
This is absolutely infuriating!!!
Once again, a big thanks to Lawrence and the Last Word team for this continuing series, which has really cut past the civil war and authoritarian predictions. It has certainly helped clarify my own thinking on the subject. In particular, this segment points out something that has been ignored or disregarded by the more fatalistic prognosticators: the strength of resistance to Trump and Trumpism.
Whenever some pundit or commenter remarks that "we are headed toward authoritarianism," or the like, I feel like it disrespects the many, many millions of people who vehemently oppose Trump and the dark path the GOP seems to be following. There seems to be an implicit assumption among the fatalists that, while they agree with the democratic opposition, they also assume that when push comes to shove, the opposition will roll over and accept authoritarianism. This is, frankly, insulting to the activists who continue to work, to donate and march and show up to school board meetings and townhalls, to fight this madness.
I continue to think that what we are most likely headed for is a long, drawn out nullification crisis, where red and blue states will refuse to acknowledge federal authority when it comes from the opposing faction.
Thank you professors for the class ! ! !
Agree. It's the poll worker, Secretaries of State, attorneys generals, electors, the Pentagon, the CIA, a Vice-President, of all political stripes, and many ordinary people in our 50 states.
And look whom GOP is replacing now!
If Everything Sucks So Bad, Have A Constitutional Convention
And "Fix" A Lot of Stuff At Once
Only if you do not have people who prefer trial by combat.
@@coenvanwyk1 That would be the problem
Fixed and True!
It is written perfectly!
American Justice system is questionable regarding Seditionists like Trump and his sycophants. Since one year not a single person in Trump's circle is arrested. Process is very slow, weak and painful.
We are due for an overhaul.
MELANIA MAKE PRETTY.....SO CHEAP. YOU NUMBAH ONE ALWAYS!!!
No pasaran.
No person shall ...hold any office...who, having previously taken an oath...to support the Constitution of the United States...shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof...United States Constitution, Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3
Just "don't look up"
Wise information.
Not if we all wake up. And not let this happen.
It's a great book that everyone needs to read!
More need to come forward...stand up, speak up, show up...see and be seen! Create a path to salvage and protect our Democracy!! NOW!
Well if HE says so...
This should be topic #1, every single day. As long as the electoral college exists, elections cannot be fair.
Italy has had an endemic unstable situation for decades. Now the Russian are firmly ensconced there
Healthy societies evolve. Let’s do that. 😊
Send the GOP to the Beijing Olympics . And keep them .
Anyone surprised that we're living In a minority rule Oligarchy?
Wrong.
Same people that gave ted cruz a degree 🙄.
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“Democracy under assault” ? 😂😂
America's brains are very assaulted ....HaHa. Funny.
You are not dealing with the key problem. Rabid inequality.
Is Merrick Garland rabidly hopeless, too?
Some of the Liberals I know are starting to chant let's go Garland. Or am I being too obtuse?
Open you eyes before it’s all over......bye bye cruel world............
"Endemic regime instability"? That's what we've been dealing with for decades. Quasi-democracy at best. filibuster? "citizens united"? Electoral College? Politicized Supreme court? (with lifetime appointments)
VOTE BLUE in 2023!!!
Reading these comments, people are turning on Merrick Garland, for Chrisssakes. STOP IT! He is a good man trying to dot his I's and cross his T's. We are all impatient..... ALL OF US!! Let him do his job. In the mean time, GET OUT THE VOTE!! how about that?? KEEP the congress. GET OUT THE FRIGGING VOTE!! It takes patience and persistence. KEEP GOING!!
House divided you got that right
Who is the audience for a piece with a title like this? Other Harvard Professors?
Way to energize the base, MSNBC.
Corruption is endemic in USA. Next step fascism...
The decline of US democracy began in 1812 when ithe governor of the Massachusetts, Elbridge Gerry, exercised his power to gerrymander one electoral district to favor the Democratic-Republican Party. The practice continues across America to this day
That is called : Hanging on by a thread. If our judicial system fails us going forward (meaning holding high officials to the same legal standard as the rest of us schlubs), our system of government will have failed our society. Our republican congress/ senate have already failed the test miserably, unless the Jan. 6th Committee really functions in the end.. No one person is above the law. That is the standard that holds this republic together.
Generals can turn the tables. Change the game up.
Is the Orange Freak The New GOP General?
The Electoral College and senate have to go, with that the Plutocracy will be greatly weakened.
"TRUMP IS WRONG"
DROP THE MIKE
TRUMP & HIS REPUBLICANS BULLIES NEED TO GO TO JAIL ALREADY
IT's the UNITED STATES , a REPUBLiC not a direct democracy. Each state may be a democracy and have a popular vote. Therefore the Electoral College and each STATE having two Senators is not undemocratic. State Gerrymandering and voter suppression does, however, make the States undemocratic
But, could letting go of the winner take all system of the electoral college and moving to a proportional allocation of votes, as done in Nebraska and Maine, be more representative of the electorate? Also might increasing the number of representatives in the House ( there have been 435 since 1913 [codified at that number in 1929]) allow for more balanced representation? I just wonder.
It is extremely antiquated, broken and undemocratic no matter how you want to twist yourself in a pretzel to claim otherwise. It gives some people and places outsized influence. So it is literally undemocratic on its face.
THEN LET'S MAKE DC A STATE!!! FREEDOM FOR ALL.
USA, yes, Jan 6,was no surprise to the outside world either. Hopefully [because in full view now] the gaping cracks and flaws in your Voting System, from ground level through to Congress and Senate will be addressed. USA you deserve better, after these chaotic 7 years,[still not over yet until Garland learns to walk and chew gum at the same time]!👋🙂💯🇺🇸
Our government and military 🪖 better stand with democracy and constitution.
Having grown up in a Midwestern state, with only two bigger populations in two cities. I do believe that the electoral college is good. This because otherwise, Cal, New York, Illinois, perhaps a few other state. Run the whole congressional aspects. Look how we are still working on voting rights. Etc. Having said, it was encouraging that other Democratic countries have adjusted some things. Good information. Thank you.
Six more years ,it appears .
Good thing we're a constitutional Republic and not Democratic.
OOH! You’re sooo smart! ROTFLMAO!