That lone shot of the wave taking him as he is still trying to get to the ship. I think the harshness of this scene is we know all what will transpire for this kid over the next coming moments...but we won't see any of it. So its left to our imaginations just like the crew... and it's terrifying and tragic. His hope of surviving was fading before our eyes even while he still was struggling for his life on an instinctive level. His knowing that his life was over... but he still had to drown once he stopped trying. It just gets me and I gotta say...this was shot fantastically.
Yes. I was reminded of the song by Styx titled Man in the Wilderness and this line: I'm a lonely sailor lost at sea Drifting with the tide, never quite knowing why Sometimes it makes no sense at all….
the fact that youre trying soo hard to get back to the ship , giving everything youve got and then when it comes to the point , you know you have to let yourself go and drown. Every over board scene in any film like this has be speechless and in awe . Just imagine being that poor sailor and watching your life sail away from you as you are left to the mercy of the open ocean .. And yes shot absolutely beautiful this scene was which added to the dread.... that last wave rising is just a sight to behold.
@@engasal I'm sorry you don't know what an ellipsis is, but that's actually one of the uses for it - to indicate cutting text out of a quote. It's not pretentious. You're just dim.
Same here. Saw some hellacious weather in both the N. Atlantic & N. Pacific. We even sailed through the edges of a tropical storm off Hawaii. The thought of going over the side…and especially at night is beyond terrifying.
I was on board the Eisenhower when a rogue wave took 3 ordinance men and a rack of missiles off one of the aircraft elevators, we only recovered 2. The thought was that the 3rd may have got tangled up with the missile rack, and it took him to the bottom. It's been over 30 years and I still remember that night as clear a yesterday.
I'm a green fisherman, not too long on the job, I've had brushes with death on land, crashed my car last March, but that didn't scare me nearly as much as the as the mere thought of going overboard, especially if you get caught on a line, there's no getting out of that. I've been told the stories and do my best to drag my feet when walking on deck, so as not to tread on lines by accident.
It’s like the doctor says in the next scene. When you loose men in battle, you can say that the enemy killed them. But when you make the choice of sacrificing a man by your own hand, the guilt lasts longer.
I toured an old tall ship and it had a story. When it went through this same area during a storm up to three times a man went overboard despite the netting. Each of the three times the captain tied a rope around his waste and dove in after them to rescue them but he, the captain, denied doing it because technically it was abandonment of the ship.
Worst part of being a Captain and a Leader is having to make hard but necessary decisions. It was either they risk losing one man or risk losing the whole ship and hundreds of men.
He was told that that mast wouldn't hold. To have a man up there....THAT was where he screwed up. The right choice was made to cut rope and run but it shouldn't have been a choice that killed a crewmate.
@@mistermonologue2442 What he meant that as Captain of the ship it is his job to command and since he was trying to catch that French ship do everything he could to achieve that. Sometimes that means putting some of his crew at risk of dying. Their was an episode on Star Trek TNG where this was shown during an exercise and Cdr Troi had to make a decision to send a crew member to do something but would end with them saving the ship but dying. Being a Commander of a ship is never an easy task.
@@chestersleezer8821 This is different. He wasn't saving anything and to hunt the privateers in fog to have a guy up there was as pointless as it was reckless. For instance in the time travelers episode where they find Data's head Data is supposed to accompany the away team and Picard (knowing the danger is more than usual) tells Data to stay on the ship to protect him and only allowes Data to participate when it was 100% necessary. Data tells him "you can't fight fate" and maybe not, but as Picard said you can damn well try.
That lone shot of the wave taking him as he is still trying to get to the ship. I think the harshness of this scene is we know all what will transpire for this kid over the next coming moments...but we won't see any of it. So its left to our imaginations just like the crew... and it's terrifying and tragic. His hope of surviving was fading before our eyes even while he still was struggling for his life on an instinctive level. His knowing that his life was over... but he still had to drown once he stopped trying. It just gets me and I gotta say...this was shot fantastically.
Yes. I was reminded of the song by Styx titled Man in the Wilderness and this line:
I'm a lonely sailor lost at sea
Drifting with the tide, never quite knowing why
Sometimes it makes no sense at all….
Why is there a pandemic of people flooding their comments with ... these days? So pretentious
the fact that youre trying soo hard to get back to the ship , giving everything youve got and then when it comes to the point , you know you have to let yourself go and drown. Every over board scene in any film like this has be speechless and in awe . Just imagine being that poor sailor and watching your life sail away from you as you are left to the mercy of the open ocean .. And yes shot absolutely beautiful this scene was which added to the dread.... that last wave rising is just a sight to behold.
@@engasal I'm sorry you don't know what an ellipsis is, but that's actually one of the uses for it - to indicate cutting text out of a quote.
It's not pretentious. You're just dim.
I was on 3 ships in the USN. Wasn't afraid of Fire or Flooding but going over the side made me very cautious especially at night.
Same here. Saw some hellacious weather in both the N. Atlantic & N. Pacific. We even sailed through the edges of a tropical storm off Hawaii. The thought of going over the side…and especially at night is beyond terrifying.
I was on board the Eisenhower when a rogue wave took 3 ordinance men and a rack of missiles off one of the aircraft elevators, we only recovered 2. The thought was that the 3rd may have got tangled up with the missile rack, and it took him to the bottom.
It's been over 30 years and I still remember that night as clear a yesterday.
My uncle disappeared on watch in the bay of biscay at night1972
I'm a green fisherman, not too long on the job, I've had brushes with death on land, crashed my car last March, but that didn't scare me nearly as much as the as the mere thought of going overboard, especially if you get caught on a line, there's no getting out of that. I've been told the stories and do my best to drag my feet when walking on deck, so as not to tread on lines by accident.
It’s like the doctor says in the next scene.
When you loose men in battle, you can say that the enemy killed them. But when you make the choice of sacrificing a man by your own hand, the guilt lasts longer.
The guys below deck cheering when the ship rights itself, not knowing that they had just sacrificed a crewman.
The lesser of to evils.
@@carlosricardosilvavera638 Weevils.
right in the feels that moment .
I toured an old tall ship and it had a story. When it went through this same area during a storm up to three times a man went overboard despite the netting. Each of the three times the captain tied a rope around his waste and dove in after them to rescue them but he, the captain, denied doing it because technically it was abandonment of the ship.
Worst part of being a Captain and a Leader is having to make hard but necessary decisions. It was either they risk losing one man or risk losing the whole ship and hundreds of men.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
One of the few movie scenes that made me tear up.
Vaughan Williams ‘Tallis Fantasia’ is perfect as used in this scene. Wonderful music….and cinema. WHERE’S THE SEQUEL??!!
It deserved a sequel.
Maybe the most heartbreaking scene I’ve ever seen
The worst part of being a leader. Even he doesn't know what and how to do and he looks for an approving expression of an older and wiser sailor
Man what an awesome detail, it was so intentional also. Only by looking at the older sailor captain knew what is it to be done.
No, he knows what he has to do and so does Mr Allan as much as they don't want to, the order is given unspoken.
You need a hardened veteran to make the tough calls sometime.
It is rare films like this are released nowadays.
Tired of Fast and Furious type movies.
Actually that far south anyone who went over board would probably be dead very quickly due to the temperature of the water.
Thats what it was like international travel in sail days, people think to get to America and Australia was a cruise first class
Somewhere in the distance, Tom Hanks is on a raft shouting, "WILSON! I'M SORRY, WILSON! WILSOOOOOOOON!"
Just like Wrath of Khan.
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."
“…Or the one.”
KHAAAAAAAAAANNNNN!!!!!!
Fukk that's got to be hard...I think the captain should have given the axe to someone other than the guys buddy though....that's rough.
No because he knew that by doing this that individual who went over board was a dead man and being Captain his responsibility.
He was told that that mast wouldn't hold.
To have a man up there....THAT was where he screwed up.
The right choice was made to cut rope and run but it shouldn't have been a choice that killed a crewmate.
Good call on you admiral worthless
@@botulismcasserole9832 What?
@@mistermonologue2442 What he meant that as Captain of the ship it is his job to command and since he was trying to catch that French ship do everything he could to achieve that. Sometimes that means putting some of his crew at risk of dying. Their was an episode on Star Trek TNG where this was shown during an exercise and Cdr Troi had to make a decision to send a crew member to do something but would end with them saving the ship but dying. Being a Commander of a ship is never an easy task.
@@chestersleezer8821 This is different. He wasn't saving anything and to hunt the privateers in fog to have a guy up there was as pointless as it was reckless.
For instance in the time travelers episode where they find Data's head Data is supposed to accompany the away team and Picard (knowing the danger is more than usual) tells Data to stay on the ship to protect him and only allowes Data to participate when it was 100% necessary.
Data tells him "you can't fight fate" and maybe not, but as Picard said you can damn well try.
@@botulismcasserole9832 actually sir i am admiral worthless and i command on the ss imagination
A Iconic , underrated Movie.
The good old days
Not a mobile phone in sight. Just the lads enjoying the moment...
@@Spacegoat92 that comment has been up for three months and you beat me to the reply by less than 12 hours
@@Glopdemon Don't you hate it when that happens! LoL
Rum,sodomy and the lash.
Brutal