BATSWANA-BAROLONG, BATLHARO AND BATLHAPING HISTORY (PT 2)
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- KGOSI LETHLOGILE O TLHALOSA KA BOGOSI JWA BAROLONG LE BOGOSI JAAKA BO IKADILE KA TATELANO. MAHIKENG FM 96.7MHZ (PHAFANA YA SETSO) LE MOSIRELETSI KGOSIYAGAE (P-FACTOR)
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Rra ga wa tshwara kgosi Mororolong
Batlhaping ba ga Moduana bona?
Barolong ba ile ba thusa ke kamano ya bone le maburu ka kgosi moroka kwa thabantsu yo le ena o neng a le ka fa tlase ka babalesego ya kgosikgolo moshweshwe wa basotho boo Ratshidi e rile go amologana le boo moroka ba leba mahikeng mariba a leba pultfontein
Ha o bona Barolong ba sena Kgosikgolo jaana. Go dirwa ke malepa le kgweleagano e dirwang mo lephateng la tatelano ya bogosi. Fa ke bua ka Boo Ratlou. Ngwana wa ntlha wa ga Ratlou ke Seitshiro, eseng Mariba. Kantlha ya tlhakatlhakano e nnileng teng ya polotiki ya ntlo ya bogosi. Ga tlhalosiwa fa mmagwe Mariba a ntsheditswe bogadi pele, fa mmagwe Seitshiro go jelwe mokwele. Mme hela ka tsalo, Seitshiro o motona. Selo seo polotiki. Ga ikarabele ko Ganyesa rona Boo Ratlou Boo Seitshiro.
That's correct. The Kgosi has grossly misrepresented the genealogy and narrative of thr tribe. I am afraid the versions are grossly glossing over facts. We need recalibration and corroboration of this narrative
Amogela gore Batlhaping ga e sa tlhole e le Barolong ke Batlhaping ba ikemetse.Jaanong se tlhakantse Batswana tlhogo. Batlharo ga ba sa
tlhole ba le Bahurutshe.
Bahurutshe le Bakwena ba a lekana ba tswa mo Baphofung morago ga loso lwa ga Kgosi Malope a Masilo. Baphofung e sa le e le bomogolo a Barolong ke ka ka moo Bahurutshe e leng ba bagolo mo go Barolong.
Maiba a Ratlou ga a mogolo mo go Seitshiro. Ka moo gee, Barolong ba batona ga se ba ga Mariba, ke ba ga Seitshiro kwa Khunwana e seng kwa Ganyesa. Kgosikgolo ya Barolong go raya gore ke Moswete.
barolong can not be the oldest bone le bahurutshi. Based of tales similar to those you have that are told in other royal circles.
The interviewee's historical events advances the house he belongs to above others who are legitimately ahead of them.
The Letsapa royal family is the only Barolong royal family that is royal in terms of biology, custom, and tradition. That is because it is the only dynasty whose lineage can be traced back to legitimate heirs and principal wives (the King and Queen).
-King Tau and his principal wife, (The Queen) issue = Ratlou
King Ratlou and principal wife ( The Queen) issue = King Seitshiro
King Seitshiro was heir apparent because he was born from King Ratlou's royal house, Mariba traditionally was Kgosi Seitshiro's uncle as he was born from the house of Kgosi Tau's last wife.
Making Mariba not only the most junior child in status (not age) of King Tau's house but also younger half brother to his own biological father(King Ratlou) because the same traditional succession laws that ensured that Ratlou becomes King still applied to Ratlou's household meaning the eldest male from the Queen's house becomes King and that was Seitshiro the first.
King Seitshiro and principal wife,
Issued first heir named Kgosithebe, second heir Moshoeu and last heir Mokoto.
Kgosithebe died without issue but had a girlfriend (please note this girlfriend was not royal meaning had Kgosithebe lived and married her she wasn't going to be a Queen and a chief wife was going to be found from royal or noble relatives)
So the throne went to the second son Kgosi Moshoeu who had married a relative who became his chief wife in accordance with tradition.
Meaning King Moshoeu 's first born = Seitshiro ii became the eldest royal heir biologically and traditionally.
Kgosi Moshoeu took his late brother's girlfriend who already had Matlhaku as her eldest child, this girlfriend gave Kgosi Moshoeu Sekgoro as their first child.
Sekgoro issued Kgosi(not to be confused with King Seitshiro i s'first son), Kgosi issued Moffat(his descendants are now known as the Moshoette)
Succession war started between the Seitshiro ii (Seitshiro ii's descedants are known as the Letsapa and Matlhaku (who wanted the regency on behalf of Sekgoro, oral history indicates that Sekgoro was not male hence the need to claim regency by the siblings, her non royal brother Matlhaku fought for the throne with Seitshiro ii so that he can be regent for Sekgoro.
The Seitshiro ii left and settled in Dithakong were Letsapa was born.
The Barolong were left with numerous regency regimes (regents Matlhaku, Masisi, Mongale, Mokoto, Gontse, e.tc) until the boers strategically installed a laborer from a farm in potchefstroom called Moffat(now know as the Moshoette) claiming he was heir to Kgosi when there was a land dispute between the boers and the English an event that resulted in the formation of British bechuanaland( Barolong lands in South Africa) and Bechunaland protectorate (Botswana).
This is why biologically and traditionally the Letsapa are the legitimate heirs of the Barolong throne and all others are chiefdoms are just relatives or rebels.
Interesting... Could you please share your source?
Sentleeng setlhabetsi
Ke morwadia setlhabetsi ke kopa go botsa kana rona re wela kafa kae ga re bua ka bogosi
Nna ke makatswa ke gore gatwe Batlhaping ke ditlogolo tsa Barolong, gape gatwe Batlhaping ke Basotho ba gorogetse ko Taung ko Manthe morago ga go lwantshiwa ke maburu ko Lesotho baya ba setse maruo a bone morago.
I have heard this before as well.
wai yo o batla bogosi
If Kgosi Kgolo is King then what is the meaning of Kgosi?
Kgosi Kgolo is King/Paramount Chief like King Goodwill Zwelithini of the Zulu Nation and kgosi is chief/village king.
CAn I get this vedio lenna ke Morolong kea kopa tswe tswe
Knowmyroots.co.za
Was speaking to my Great Granny, she's 101 years old, I asked her about our lineage and she said re Balehe/Balihe (hope im pronouncing it right) batlhaping ba ba tona. I was hoping you can share some light on that because i cannot find anything.
with due respect to your granny age does not mean an accurate holding of history. do not use her age
just state she told what she told which may be true
Molehe ke Phuduhudu, one ale motona mogo phuduhutswana..
Reetsa bagolo ba gago, ha gona o tla latlhega
Le Rramogolo o rile re Batlhaping.And I can confirm that because even us ga re ipoka rare re Balehe...So yes your Granny is telling the truth
Oumama o ne a bua sentle. Re teng Batlhaping ba ga Molehe. Many of us are in Kuruman, with links and ties to Taung, therefore to bana ba ga Tau. You may want to take a trip to Kuruman, and to a village called Maruping (about 17km north-west of Kuruman town). You can pop in at the local Kgosi's house, at the royal kraal, and let them fill you in.
Ke kopa o kampolellang sengwe ka Seema assomnlief
Madume nna ke tshotse ko ga Molaolwa bare bona ke bakgopa maar ga baitse sereto sa bona
ke morolong and my sir name is Leatswe / leacwe .where can i get infor on my lineage
boago leatswe gawitse sereto sa ga Matjila,,,le leneage ya bone?
Knowmyroots.co.za
This is brilliant, I love learning about my roots and culture.
Dumelang ke batla goitse gore barakile bona ba tswa kae
Bahurutse ke bona ba tona go barolong ke bo maloma thotse
Nna tota ke Motlhaping waga Maidi oo Malaopane, morwa Koometse le Budumele, mo tlhapa ka lebese a ba a phorolla ka tlhoa... You cannot say what my father taught me, that was taught to him by his father and his father before him is wrong and that we don't exist!
A ke nnete gore Batlhaping ke ditlogolo tsa Barolong, le gone Barolong bafeng ka gonne ba farologane goya ka maina a bone jaaka Barolong Boo Ratshidi, Boo Ratlou...jalo le jalo?
pdfproc.lib.msu.edu/?file=/DMC/African%20Journals/pdfs/PULA/pula001002/pula001002003.pdf
ke rutegile tota
Kgosi Kgolo, Tau Tona, The Great Lion Khama. Bow down to Bangwato
Nnyaa Kgosi Letlhogile wa nkakabatsa. Ke ne ke ithaya ke re o tla rulaganya matsalo a dikgosi.
You cannot convince me better if you cannot take me back to Mohurutshe who is the first born female child of Male. I would encourage Kgosi Letlhogile to do more research.
Mohurutshe ke ngwana wa ntlha wa ga Maele. Please Kgosi zoom into this one to enlighten Batswana
He's not answering the questions, you cannot say Barolong le Bahurutshe ke bana ba batona, ha o bodiwa gore ba tswa kae.
They surely didn't appear from nowhere. It sounds like there's an agenda just from that point.
Not all groups came to be because of they called themselves according to things they identified as.
There's a complete leanage and you cannot leave anything blank. You have to answer completely where all groups come from before we can recognise you, or else you're just taking chances.
He was asked about top 10, and he didn't even fill in his missing gaps of his own top 5 to 7, he went straight to his two big kings of North West.
He doesn't explain how the borders of North West were decided upon, but he already knows who is the king or kings.
If we want to go back in history then we have to be frank about it and do that entirely, without gaps, then the questions will be easier to answer.
Nnete
True... Se ke se itseng ke gore Mohurutshe (daughter) e ne e le ngwana wa ntlha wa Kgosi Malope in the first/big house ya mosadi o motona, mme Kwena (male) e le ngwana wa ntlha in the smaller house ya second wife.