Who Would Have Won The Ballon d'Or If Messi And Ronaldo Didn't Exist?

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  • čas přidán 7. 10. 2023
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    Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi have dominated the world of football for nearly 20 years now and between the two of them, they’ve won the Ballon d’Or 12 times. That’s insane dominance; football duopoly at its finest.
    So far, only two men - Karim Benzema and Luka Modric - have been able to shake up that dominance. But hey, what if Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo didn’t even exist at all? Yes, football would not have been this great, but who would have won the Ballon d’Or all these years? Come with us as we take a deep into the alternate universe where the GOATs don’t exist.
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Komentáře • 475

  • @wandilekhuzwayo2466
    @wandilekhuzwayo2466 Před 7 měsíci +283

    But remember if Ronaldo wasn’t there in 2016 griezmann would of won the champions league and euros so Griezmann would deserve the ballon d’or

    • @user-xc7tt4fj3w
      @user-xc7tt4fj3w Před 7 měsíci +5

      I mean ucl no man real would have won it anyway
      Others things griezmann could have won euros and ballondor

    • @tajamulkhan4209
      @tajamulkhan4209 Před 7 měsíci +5

      ronaldo carried madrid to the final

    • @Quipie
      @Quipie Před 7 měsíci +30

      @@user-xc7tt4fj3w lmao no, madrid would’ve 100% lost against wolfsburg without cr7, & portugal would’ve been knocked out in the group stages of 2016 if cristiano didn’t score the brace against hungary

    • @ChromeYT9234
      @ChromeYT9234 Před 7 měsíci +6

      still suarez would have won the ballon d'or

    • @user-xc7tt4fj3w
      @user-xc7tt4fj3w Před 7 měsíci +2

      @Quipie- I mean it's not like I watched the 2016 ucl or euros. I'm just saying 😒😒

  • @ntdn627
    @ntdn627 Před 7 měsíci +47

    In a world where things go the way they should, i would totally agree
    But the Ballon D'or has always been a popularity award

    • @justinsm
      @justinsm Před 6 měsíci +16

      Well, my question is why Beckham never win one? He was the most popular athletes before CR7 and Messi reach their prime. CR7 more popular than Messi why Messi wins more? Neymar is the most popular athletes after CR7 and Messi. Why instead Modric and Benzema win in 2018 and 2022?

  • @dsimi415
    @dsimi415 Před 6 měsíci +87

    It's honestly insane that these 2 men held on to their positions for so long. You have the all time greats that are obviously really good for most of their careers but for these 2 to have been constantly compared to each other for close to 2 decades with very few even coming close to their level and dominating the Ballon D'or the way they did was something special. We all have our pick for who is the better player but I think in pitting these 2 against each other, the world of football took for granted exactly what was happening in front of our eyes

    • @alexzero3736
      @alexzero3736 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Well, if you did some research you ll see that Ballon d or changed its rules at the start of this domination, a lot of non- football countries were included as voters. So Ballon d or went from players and coaches votes to viewer votes, and basically became the Ballon of popularity.

    • @thomasmccurley7666
      @thomasmccurley7666 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@alexzero3736 Well ronaldo is more popular than messi, no?

    • @goodlad8166
      @goodlad8166 Před 6 měsíci

      @@alexzero3736 people play football in non footballing countries too, the coaches and those captains have enough knowledge to judge the balon d or. Its like saying a whole country doesnt play football. USA plays american football but that doesnt mean there are no genius footballers in usa. so whatever the country is , the people with far more knowldge only vote. infact they know much mooore football than you. so its a flawed logic.

    • @goodlad8166
      @goodlad8166 Před 6 měsíci

      @@alexzero3736 Its like saying poor countries dont have rich men.

    • @goodlad8166
      @goodlad8166 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@alexzero3736 how do footballers become popular? by playing good football. so its obvious the popular footballers win it because they are good. benzema became popular for his super performance in ucl and won it, so that doesnt mean he won coz of popularity , he won coz of ucl performance.

  • @AlbinoMutant
    @AlbinoMutant Před 6 měsíci +39

    Their rivalry no doubt inspired both to even greater heights of performance.

    • @justinsm
      @justinsm Před 6 měsíci +1

      We would never see they would be on top for more than a decade if just one of them exist because it would be just solo domination like other sport and era. Let alone if these 2 not exist Football would fall from their top spot of popularity because they have barely outstanding player for all of us to enjoy.

  • @auretor
    @auretor Před 7 měsíci +26

    Griezmann deserved a mention 2018-2019 he was at his prime and world winner but yeah we camt deny modric deserved it more but with thaat logic 2016 was Griezmann without the 2 wild aliens obv.

    • @justinsm
      @justinsm Před 6 měsíci +1

      I just can't believe after Griezmann transferred to Barca he became a flop. Same with PSG Neymar when he can be in top 3 twice too like Griezmann.

    • @auretor
      @auretor Před 5 měsíci

      @@justinsm yeah they say he was flopped because Barca was made around Messi so he couldn't fit in to the winger role...
      He also a can or CF and not a lw so yeah that tooo counts

  • @brohdez8857
    @brohdez8857 Před 6 měsíci +13

    Griezmann was different gravy in 2016. He was everywhere on the pitch

  • @elijahwakili9784
    @elijahwakili9784 Před 7 měsíci +23

    Realistically speaking ppl should take into consideration that ronaldo and messi's teammates performed well then partly because of them, so without them it wouldn't have been the same

  • @Sp3k0
    @Sp3k0 Před 7 měsíci +17

    lets be honest here, most of these people in the video are teammates of ronaldo or messi that year, so without ronaldo or messi existing some of them may not have won it

  • @budhydarmawan4949
    @budhydarmawan4949 Před 7 měsíci +12

    Its kinda unfair to say some players cant win Ballon D'or just because they didnt win something with their national team, considering not all players are lucky enough to have a solid national team..

    • @justinsm
      @justinsm Před 6 měsíci

      Ok, here's the thing. CR7 for example because he win 5 ball on d'or with Portugal just won 2016 Euro in his national team career. So, by your logic he only deserve the ball on d'or in 2016. But, no. He win 5. Why? his performance in 2008, 2014, and 2017 was insane. Clearly not a human. Even in 2013 he win nothing. But 69 goals in 2013 calendar year with 60+ goals for 4 calendar years in a row (2011-2014 before his injury) and 50+ goals for 7 calendar years in a row (2011-2017 as both LW and ST) is outstanding. I still say he deserve 5 because he deserve 2018 over Modric by stats even though Modric bring Croatia to WC final. But, of course just because his 2013 are amazing without any trophies he didn't deserve the 2013 one over Ribery.

  • @daddyscatcher1990
    @daddyscatcher1990 Před 7 měsíci +39

    But if 2016 ronaldo didn’t exist griezman would have won the euros and the CL

    • @donny-su5bd
      @donny-su5bd Před 7 měsíci +2

      but maybe he would still lose in the euro final because ronaldo was injured

    • @Prestongames5
      @Prestongames5 Před 7 měsíci

      Don’t forgot Ronaldo was coaching basically

    • @Username-mn7pc
      @Username-mn7pc Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Prestongames5yeah he was also portugal goalkeeper and defender😂

    • @samirahman8054
      @samirahman8054 Před 6 měsíci

      Suarez better shut up griezz fan

    • @zeo4481
      @zeo4481 Před 6 měsíci +2

      How was Cristiano stoping Griesman for the Euro?

  • @davidvictor4469
    @davidvictor4469 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Nice video guys,Just showing us how good the goats were to deny so many great players of Ballon D'ors they deserved

  • @lethudlamini233
    @lethudlamini233 Před 7 měsíci +14

    The Barcelona and Spanish dominance is crazy

    • @justinsm
      @justinsm Před 6 měsíci

      Meanwhile people said Bundesliga is a farmer league

  • @kaaskronk2314
    @kaaskronk2314 Před 7 měsíci +12

    the fact that neuer would have been the only goalkeeper to win since yashin if messi and ronaldo didnt exist

    • @justinsm
      @justinsm Před 6 měsíci +1

      Buffon in 2006 also deserve over CANNAVARO. CANNAVARO only great in WC while Buffon great in both club and WC. Goalkeeper barely have no places in ball on d'or other than YASHIN.

  • @AidenMessi6886
    @AidenMessi6886 Před 7 měsíci +121

    Suarez deserved more ballon d'ors on this list he is truly underrated

    • @YasnaJalil-us4jz
      @YasnaJalil-us4jz Před 7 měsíci +4

      But messi robbed 4 ballon dor he is a robber ronaldo is better

    • @Shayan49741
      @Shayan49741 Před 7 měsíci +20

      ​@@YasnaJalil-us4jz🤡 penaldo robbed neuer, messi ribery and suarez

    • @Shayan49741
      @Shayan49741 Před 7 měsíci +8

      ​@@YasnaJalil-us4jzRonaldo doesn't deserve a single ballon dor

    • @elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633
      @elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633 Před 7 měsíci +7

      @@YasnaJalil-us4jz Good God no! Ronaldo fan.

    • @user-xc7tt4fj3w
      @user-xc7tt4fj3w Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@YasnaJalil-us4jzronaldo fan shut up ok

  • @InjectionOfYou99
    @InjectionOfYou99 Před 6 měsíci +5

    (Sneijder finished second in 2010), Goal90: "Iniesta". Is this video about straight facts or simply your barcelonic opinion?

  • @freakerfaker3711
    @freakerfaker3711 Před 7 měsíci +28

    There an alternate universe where Xavi and Iniesta didn't play together, one goes to United and one stay at Barca till the Madrid sign the one who went to United, both become GOAT midfielder rivalry...also Cristiano and Messi plays together at Barca they didn't managed to win ballon dor despite being at the top list favorite but instead, its Xavi and Iniesta race against each other at winning and being the best

    • @Dev_dom6996
      @Dev_dom6996 Před 7 měsíci +3

      bro is a midfielder rider FR

    • @justinsm
      @justinsm Před 6 měsíci

      @@Dev_dom6996 Messi and Cristiano wouldn't be as great we saw without Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets, Fabregas, Rakitic, Scholes, Keane, Carrick, Alonso, Modric, KROOS, PJANIC, Matuidi, BENTACUR, and Khedira.

  • @panda4lifevr
    @panda4lifevr Před 6 měsíci +28

    Fun fact Lewandowski actually was higher than Messi and cr7 he just couldn't claim it due to COVID(it's true)

    • @joan89s
      @joan89s Před 6 měsíci +7

      they should give it to him, since they have not give to someone for the year of covid.

    • @justinsm
      @justinsm Před 6 měsíci +2

      We all know. He's totally amazing in 2019-2020 season. That's his prime for sure. COVID and France football ruined and robbed him

    • @zeliatembo248
      @zeliatembo248 Před 5 měsíci

      Very true

  • @ifeanyiobioma8892
    @ifeanyiobioma8892 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Schneider supposed to win ballon in 2010

  • @OrangeEdits_
    @OrangeEdits_ Před 7 měsíci +13

    Griezmann actually would have won the Champions League final and the Euros if there was no ronaldo

    • @kursimon7998
      @kursimon7998 Před 7 měsíci

      Not just Ronaldo but Valverde

    • @Username-mn7pc
      @Username-mn7pc Před 6 měsíci +2

      Ronaldo didn’t do anything in those two finals against Griezmann

    • @Susanoo1016
      @Susanoo1016 Před 6 měsíci

      @@Username-mn7pcdoesn’t matter if he didn’t play during the finals Portugal without Ronaldo are nothing they wouldn’t have left the group stages, and Wolfsburg match sealed the deal in 2016

  • @RANDOMCLIPS894
    @RANDOMCLIPS894 Před 7 měsíci +10

    If De Bruyne didn't exist the robot wouldn't have scored all them goals last season

    • @kursimon7998
      @kursimon7998 Před 7 měsíci

      Just look at the amount of touches he got nowadays 😅😅

    • @mumandubula1788
      @mumandubula1788 Před 6 měsíci

      He was scoring goals at RB Salzburg and BVB before that.

  • @z.m.d.t
    @z.m.d.t Před 6 měsíci +1

    Lewandowski 69 goals and 15 assist 58 games 2021. Vs messi 41 goals and 17 assist 65 games 2021. Lewandowski deserved 2 ballon dors 2020,2021. Lewandowski 3rd best player this generation and best striker this generation.

  • @thetrenchmedia57
    @thetrenchmedia57 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Bro what u on about man 2016 griezmanns atleti best Barcelona on the way to finals and without Ronaldo he would have won ucl and euros

  • @farisattia6646
    @farisattia6646 Před 5 měsíci

    good video

  • @obiadohemma4148
    @obiadohemma4148 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Please for your next video make it (8 tranfers that did not happen for riduculous reasons)
    Like de gea to real madrid
    Or lewandowski to blackburn

  • @beni_6309.official
    @beni_6309.official Před 7 měsíci +6

    Nice video again❤

  • @LG-jn5fx
    @LG-jn5fx Před 6 měsíci +3

    Xavi and Iniesta both deserved a Ballon d'Or but they were playing with Messi in his peak so was hard to look past his insane numbers. Lewandoski was robbed of at least one ballon d'Or if not two but the award I am most upset about is Virgil Van Dyke. The guy was just incredible for a 2 year period and as flawless a defender since Maldini, he deserved the award over Messi who by his standards had an average season. He has not been the same since Pickford's stupid challenge took his leg off and I doubt he will ever get back to his peak.

    • @Br0wnie34
      @Br0wnie34 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Huh!! Messi was average for his standards in 2019?. That was arguably one of his best seasons he absolutely carried that Barcelona team. I assume you are saying this based on the one game at Anfield

    • @justinsm
      @justinsm Před 6 měsíci

      Yes, Liverpool doing great at UCL and win it. Plus Van Dijk is the reason they can won. But don't forget how Barca did in 2019 and how he carry. Only 2012 and 2015 Messi can defeat 2019 Messi. And don't say 2021 robbed. You can't deny Messi's performance in Copa America. Same with 2009-2012 they're the reason Messi great but he's standout there. I can say that Ribery deserved 2013 over Ronaldo or Torres in 2008 Euro, NEUER in 2014 WC, and Suarez in 2015-2016 season

    • @NtaniDaniel-rx4ze
      @NtaniDaniel-rx4ze Před 6 měsíci

      You by his standards means he was above normal standards

  • @Averagespaniard
    @Averagespaniard Před 7 měsíci +4

    Spain would have 5 more Ballon Dors

  • @EnkhtulgaB
    @EnkhtulgaB Před 6 měsíci +1

    You did not mention Griezmann Euro 2016 best player and top scorer.

  • @Lionel_Ronaldo1
    @Lionel_Ronaldo1 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Hi bro goal 90❤

  • @Steveennn
    @Steveennn Před 6 měsíci

    Robben deserved one. He was unstoppable.

  • @frouzanr2355
    @frouzanr2355 Před 7 měsíci +1

    For me
    2010 snjider
    2017 hazard
    2019 alison becker

    • @midfielderlounge2592
      @midfielderlounge2592 Před 6 měsíci

      For me Xavi for 2010 he was better than both snjider and Iniesta
      Was by far Spain best player in that world cup
      From midfield his goal contribution was 28 that's insane
      His performance against real Madrid that year is easily one of greatest midfield performance ever
      So was his performance against Netherlands in final

  • @diikamar
    @diikamar Před 6 měsíci +2

    2008: Fernando Torres (Liverpool)
    2009: Xavi Hernández (Barcelona)
    2010: Andrés Iniesta (Barcelona)
    2011: Xavi Hernández (Barcelona)
    2012: Andrés Iniesta (Barcelona)
    2013: Franck Ribéry (Bayern München)
    2014: Manuel Neuer (Bayern München)
    2015: Neymar (Barcelona)
    2016: Antoine Griezmann (Atlético Madrid)
    2017: Neymar (PSG)
    2019: Virgil van Dijk (Liverpool)
    2021: Robert Lewandowski (Bayern München)
    You're welcome...

  • @Mpb17-Music-
    @Mpb17-Music- Před 7 měsíci +2

    Do a video what happened to haaland goalscoring

  • @Kupa-pu2iw
    @Kupa-pu2iw Před 7 měsíci +1

    Do a video that if you could only win one ballon d'or

  • @GoalGetter22598
    @GoalGetter22598 Před měsícem

    Iniesta, Xavi, and Neymar would had been the goats of football if Messi and Ronaldo didn't exist

  • @asandamapukata2067
    @asandamapukata2067 Před 7 měsíci +2

    2015 should have went to Neymar

  • @cestiagaming
    @cestiagaming Před 6 měsíci +1

    "golden shoe"💀💀💀

  • @Kinobeast1
    @Kinobeast1 Před 7 měsíci

    Lucas Maura on 2019

  • @entertainmentbuster3099
    @entertainmentbuster3099 Před 7 měsíci +12

    Cristiano deserved in 2018

  • @Vegeta_2
    @Vegeta_2 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Watching it at 5 mins

  • @mayapage2707
    @mayapage2707 Před 6 měsíci

    Honestly this shows how much help messi in all his year gets and ronaldo not as much until later

  • @Proplayer54321
    @Proplayer54321 Před 7 měsíci +1

    83 G/A in 54 games 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮👽👽👽💯💯 that is crazy why didn't you give this man ballon for 😢😢😢😢 FIFA whyyyyyyyy

  • @gaminggrrenbeast240
    @gaminggrrenbeast240 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Im pretty sure griezmann wouldve won one

  • @TommyAtkinson-xn6bs
    @TommyAtkinson-xn6bs Před 3 měsíci

    I think Mohamed salah ,Manuel never , van dighk and Suarez should all have a balloon d'or

  • @zeo4481
    @zeo4481 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Spain and Bayern players be like:

  • @user-bc1el7hg2w
    @user-bc1el7hg2w Před 7 měsíci +2

    If neymar won in 2017 he would of stayed at barca

    • @ave-6130
      @ave-6130 Před 6 měsíci

      he left because Messi would have always been ahead of him because of the media

  • @MilanSarkaar
    @MilanSarkaar Před 6 měsíci +1

    The video could have ended in 2 seconds by writing whoever came second in those years

  • @oliverlotanna3563
    @oliverlotanna3563 Před 7 měsíci +9

    So Barcelona players would have cleaned up the Ballon D'or's without Messi and Ronaldo?
    Incredible 😱

    • @wh1sp3rr
      @wh1sp3rr Před 7 měsíci +7

      to be fair, Messi is one of the greatest playmakers of all time, so it could be argued that both Neymar and Suarez's numbers would not have been what they are should Messi not have existed.

    • @justinsm
      @justinsm Před 6 měsíci

      @@wh1sp3rr how about Xavi & Iniesta? they were still great in Spain which we knew Messi is not Spain. Plus both of them are assisting Messi in 2009-2012

  • @Simon-A.-Tan
    @Simon-A.-Tan Před 6 měsíci +1

    "Xavi won this, Neymar won that...." Dude, as if Barcelona would have won just as many trophies without Messi....
    Who knows.... Suarez and Neymar might even have signed for other clubs.

  • @juannygordillo3502
    @juannygordillo3502 Před 6 měsíci

    Suarez couldn't win the Ballon d'Or without Messi´s Assistances...

  • @Cartiisking
    @Cartiisking Před 7 měsíci +7

    But if Ronaldo never existed griezmen would have won ucl euro and ballon dor

    • @Username-mn7pc
      @Username-mn7pc Před 6 měsíci

      But Ronaldo did nothing in those two finals in 2016

    • @kpsahoo8000
      @kpsahoo8000 Před 5 měsíci

      But he did every thing in the knockouts

    • @kpsahoo8000
      @kpsahoo8000 Před 5 měsíci

      Without ronaldo real madrid would have lost against Wolfsburg

  • @arnerosenvold3595
    @arnerosenvold3595 Před 6 měsíci

    now its 13

  • @8xGizmox8
    @8xGizmox8 Před 6 měsíci

    It's not if they Didn't Exist.. it's if it was fair. some years other players deserved it more than Messi And Ronaldo.

  • @sony5526
    @sony5526 Před 6 měsíci

    1:35 Why it has to be Iniesta?
    I think Sneijder more deserve it. In 2010 Iniesta played with peak Messi and Xavi. At that time Barcelona was the most feared team, but still lost to Inter with Sneijder. In addition, Sneijder huge contribution not only for Inter's treble, but also how he helped the national team progressed to the final WC.

  • @user-oo8dw8vz4y
    @user-oo8dw8vz4y Před 7 měsíci +1

    1Hour gang

  • @badguy9828
    @badguy9828 Před 6 měsíci

    If Ballon d'or was fair:
    2008: Ronaldo
    2009: Messi
    2010: Iniesta
    2011: Messi
    2012: Messi
    2013: Ribery
    2014: Neuer
    2015: Messi
    2016: Suarez
    2017: Ronaldo
    2018: Griezmann/Modric (I can understand Modric but still think Griezmann deserves it)
    2019: Van Dijk
    2020: Lewandowski (Canceled duo to covid)
    2021: Lewandowski
    2022: Benzema
    2023: Messi
    We get:
    Messi: 5
    Ronaldo: 2
    Lewandowski: 2
    Rest: 1

  • @pepejr10king
    @pepejr10king Před 7 měsíci +1

    I would give the ballond dor to kdb or rodri over haaland. Messi deserves anyway

  • @jeromebesnaud3030
    @jeromebesnaud3030 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Actually this video could be: who would have won the BO if votes were rational and consistant ? I love Messi and CR7 and enjoyed witnessing this era, but as BO is not just about pure talent, those 2 monsters should be worth 3 or 4 BO each, not 13! (yes no fake suspense about this year's robber ;-))

  • @emmaf8772
    @emmaf8772 Před 5 měsíci

    Lewa deserve that one in 2020

  • @josueguillen4111
    @josueguillen4111 Před 7 měsíci +1

    It’s hard to say that any of the Barcelona/Madrid players would’ve won it cause they for sure wouldn’t have won all those trophies without their GOATs.

    • @justinsm
      @justinsm Před 6 měsíci

      So, from this list only Torres, Ribery, NEUER, Van Dijk, Lewandowski, and HAALAND that deserve their ball on d'or if they're not exist? i would argue the 2009-2012, 2018, and 2022 though. Why? in 2009-2012 Xavi and Iniesta are the strongest reason Messi can get his ball on d'or that time. Plus they're doing amazing in Spain too. For 2018 this is a tough debate. But 2017-2018 Madrid squad are the strongest team in UCL get their hattrick UCL too. Plus Modric did amazing in 2018 WC carry Croatia to final with Perisic and battle current prime France which we knew the strongest nation today. That's why he won 2018 above Ronaldo that time even though Ronaldo have far better stats. And lastly 2022. No question needed. Ronaldo already leave Madrid for 3 seasons in Juventus and already going downhill since his comeback to MU. And Benzema totally on fire in 2021-2022 seasons. You could argue Vinicius is the reason why Benzema can take that ball on d'or. But not every assist can easily make goals and Benzema nailed it that seasons. Only Mane and KDB can challenge him but not quite as great. So, he deserve.

  • @tokyoramen2120
    @tokyoramen2120 Před 6 měsíci

    About to be 13

  • @ZeroZeke-
    @ZeroZeke- Před 6 měsíci +1

    If Messi wasn’t playing, France would of win the WC, Mbappe would’ve won the Award for 2023

  • @shashigobozi5442
    @shashigobozi5442 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Next time what if real madrid and brca never exist

  • @darthstamperius
    @darthstamperius Před 6 měsíci +1

    I don’t understand how you think 2016 Suarez beats 2022-23 Haaland. The Prem is infinitely better quality in every way. Players, Managers, Big stars, etc. La Liga is a borderline farmers league

  • @tinofaratinashemukakaso5632
    @tinofaratinashemukakaso5632 Před 7 měsíci +1

    2010 and Schneider come on man

  • @fasihscraft8240
    @fasihscraft8240 Před 7 měsíci +1

    If ronaldo and messi didn't exist in 2016 ofc griezmann would have won it man it was ronaldo the reason why griezmann lose euros and ucl finals so griezmann should have won it

  • @DDDxxxDDDxxxDDD
    @DDDxxxDDDxxxDDD Před 6 měsíci

    2010 should have been Wesley Sneijder, no discussion.

  • @guillogarcia7226
    @guillogarcia7226 Před 6 měsíci

    If Ronaldo didn’t exist, Rooney would have been the key player in United’s PL and CL double. That puts him above Torres for me.

  • @marikg7890
    @marikg7890 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Neymar deserves

    • @Username-mn7pc
      @Username-mn7pc Před 6 měsíci

      Yeah he deserved 2017 ballon dor like Ribery in 2013 but Perez 🤮🤮😊

  • @thatonerandomdude6501
    @thatonerandomdude6501 Před 4 měsíci

    2012 should’ve been Didier Drogba

  • @Rvf840
    @Rvf840 Před 7 měsíci +1

    2010 Samuel eto

  • @poetrycave77
    @poetrycave77 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I'm a Manchester city fan and I beg to differ, I believe that Julian Alvarez deserves the ballon d'Or over Messi and haaland

  • @jordanatkin2998
    @jordanatkin2998 Před 6 měsíci

    My questions are, How many would they have won if the other didn't exist, would they have won over 10? would they even be close to as dominant as they were for 10+ years if the other didn't exist

  • @denislavdochev3783
    @denislavdochev3783 Před 6 měsíci

    Forgot about Lord Bendtner?

  • @LuisHernandez-cd4in
    @LuisHernandez-cd4in Před 6 měsíci

    08 torres was not 3rd 😂 it was xavi Hernández

  • @liamwilliams6651
    @liamwilliams6651 Před 6 měsíci +1

    If Messi wins it again over Haaland its a fix

    • @queenbrightwingthe3890
      @queenbrightwingthe3890 Před 6 měsíci

      just watch. its all scripted just like Argentina winning World Cup was scripted for Messi all way through.

  • @Kafei01
    @Kafei01 Před 6 měsíci +1

    If Messi didn't existed in 2023, MBappé would have won the world cup, and PSG would have been way better without Messi who bring bad energy and no motivation for the club, so who knew what would have happened.

  • @kotzatops
    @kotzatops Před 7 měsíci +1

    Lewadowki left the chat

  • @Cow_God
    @Cow_God Před 7 měsíci +5

    Barcas dominance back then 🥶🥶

  • @tijsmulder9597
    @tijsmulder9597 Před 6 měsíci +1

    vvd deserves the ballondor in 2019

  • @rednaskela4830
    @rednaskela4830 Před 6 měsíci

    Too much focus on team performances and trophies. Individual performance should be 2/3 of the award

  • @EGT445
    @EGT445 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Messi won the ballon’dor

  • @goalie09
    @goalie09 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Ballen dor sucks cuase it inly goes to attackers never defenders or goalies. Football fans only focus on attackers. Also if a defenders make a mistake everyone gets really annoyed but when an attacker misses a shot everyone claps. Van dight deserved it in 2019

    • @__rogue___
      @__rogue___ Před 7 měsíci

      There should be a separate category for defenders and Goalkeepers

    • @Username-mn7pc
      @Username-mn7pc Před 6 měsíci +1

      Messi was 20 times better player than Van dijk in 2019

    • @goalie09
      @goalie09 Před 6 měsíci

      ​​​​@@Username-mn7pcWell you don't know any thing about football. You only know how to base football on goals and assists. Van dighkt went an entire season without being dribbled past won pfa player of the year and carried liverpool to the champions league final and uefa player oftheyear. Bro Football is not just about goals and assists. Defender stats are just as good as goals. Cleen sheets interceptions and tackles

    • @queenbrightwingthe3890
      @queenbrightwingthe3890 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@goalie09 There is a reason why no defender since Cannavaro won it in 2006 has won it since. Ballon'Odor is only about who scores the most now. They dont care about goalkeepers or defender stats.

  • @MamadouDiallo-ws1yv
    @MamadouDiallo-ws1yv Před 7 měsíci +1

    Inesta 2010 ribery 2013 cr7 2018 and lastly lewadowski 2021 in the year where other plays should have won it

    • @Username-mn7pc
      @Username-mn7pc Před 6 měsíci

      Ribery 2013 Ballon dor
      Neuer 2014
      Suarez 2016

    • @redo5552
      @redo5552 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@Username-mn7pc ah yes lmao, getting rid of all of Ronaldo's ballon d'ors because you're salty 🤣🤣

  • @nashanestewart5830
    @nashanestewart5830 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Messi wins because he is kind

  • @Lion72320
    @Lion72320 Před 6 měsíci

    Problem I have with this is Balon d'Or would have been dominated by Barcelona players but would they have achieved as much without Messi ...

  • @SnakesRC00L
    @SnakesRC00L Před 7 měsíci +1

    Suarez deserves more ballondors

  • @user-dk9vq9dq9h
    @user-dk9vq9dq9h Před 7 měsíci +1

    2023 Alvarez deserves

  • @kangchem
    @kangchem Před 6 měsíci

    Nah dude 2017 should be Buffon

  • @bradleysands1758
    @bradleysands1758 Před 6 měsíci +1

    If we didn’t give it to iniesta in 2010 we shouldn’t have given it to messi

  • @danieldesiire4418
    @danieldesiire4418 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Neymar

  • @george_papanik
    @george_papanik Před 6 měsíci

    Guys even thought u will think that who is tuis guy talkin to us look at what l am gonna say pls first lets take the 2015 neymar as a player if messi wasnt there he wasnt gonna get the treble or anything because leo was assisting neymar all year so u had to do better research even thought its boring cause u made several mistakes but it was an 8/10 video for me respect

  • @louie5671
    @louie5671 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Man utd jersey please

  • @Li_Mn
    @Li_Mn Před 6 měsíci +4

    Xavi and Iniesta may have been shells without Messi up top. They'd have put up decent numbers but wouldn't have had anywhere close to the stats they had now.

  • @danielafarcas8647
    @danielafarcas8647 Před 7 měsíci +1

    1 hour gang

  • @Berserk-vj8kz
    @Berserk-vj8kz Před 6 měsíci +1

    As we found out by now, Messi would have won anyway.

  • @atefhashmi2683
    @atefhashmi2683 Před 7 měsíci +1

    NAH NEUER BECAME 2ND GK TO WIN BALON D’IOR

  • @keviok638
    @keviok638 Před 7 měsíci

    2012 falcao??

  • @Kosjkaa
    @Kosjkaa Před 5 měsíci

    even if messi and ronaldo didnt exist messi would still rob it 🤣

  • @fpldirectory6753
    @fpldirectory6753 Před 6 měsíci

    Is this genuinely if Messi and Ronaldo didn't exist (remove their trophy winning goals etc) - or just who was the 3rd best player each year?