Modhouse Argon Review (Best T50RP MK3 Mod?)
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You can also purchase Modded Argon Mk3s from Modhouse without sending a pair -in. Starting at $245.
Can I get these if I don't live in the US?
@@mohamedshuaib2424 yes
with a 12 week order time.
I have the Argon Mk2s, and I love them as much as I love my AKG K240DFs.
Something about how they sound feels right. The bass, while being really impactful, has it's own space and is SO well separated from the other frequencies. It has like, a Sony Z7 bass but everything is so well separated.
They're almost like the "evil counterpart" to the HD800; REALLY separated mids just like the HD800, but with the emphasis on the Bass instead of the Treble.
How would you compare the Argons soundstage against HD 800s?
@@v.i.l.o. Argons soiund like a definitive bubble around your head, whereas the HD 800 is quite a bit llarger with sounds that appear out of nowhere
I game with these and they are among the best. Obviously my Audeze LCD-2 best them, but not in soundstage, nor treble clarity. The Argons hit well above their price and Ryan is a great dude to top it off. Solid review my dude.
Hazi59 _ I've been thinking about these for a while now. I had the LCD-X but got rid of them and got the hd800S. I didn't like the weight of the LCD-X for long listening sessions. Since I got rid of the LCD-X I've missed the bass and looking for something to compliment the hd800S. I have the hd650 and He4xx but want something that's quality but has some bass. You think this checks that box?
@@rhodey2952 Absolutely
@@rhodey2952 hi i know this is super late, but i prefere overall my mk3's over my lcd-x idk why ..
What amp do you use with them?
@@whipsor I don't own them anymore, but qhen I did own them I used a JDS Labs El Stack.
I purchased these and they're just a joy to listen to. I've tried many high end headphones(lcds, final audio, HD800S, Stax etc) and those are detailed and analytical. These headphones however, just put a smile on my face. The sound stage and bass are just phenomenal. The sound signature is lush and warm in a comforting way. I've tried A B testing with other planars and although these may be the slightest bit less detailed, they surely are so much more enjoyable to listen to.
Could you compare the Argons SOUNDSTAGE against HD 800S? Thanks
Are they good for music? (Classical)
@@v.i.l.o. no not good for classical 4xx and lcd 2 are good with clasical
Are yours balanced?
@@ca77721 Yes, I've got them balanced.
My next pair of headphones, I've been eyeing them for almost 2 years. Finally getting new stock since before the pandemic. Since then i purchased sundaras, a few iems, and focal clear pros. I also own shp9500s which were my first headphones.
I feel like these will fill the soundstage and bass gap for me plus they are semi closed/open. Hope they don't disappoint. Thx for the rundown.
Did you end up getting them? I too am eying them, and I own sundara. If you did purchase, how are they compared? did they live up to the hype?
I put on the pads from a vintage 1990's AKG K240 and - WOW!! profoundly perfect sound signature
This one of your best reviews.
Especially the music in the background.
But i still prefer the lambskin pads for smoother highs
ORI pads or oval?
Josh! I just want to swing back and say THANKS!!!! I did a lot of research and found myself purchasing the Argons on your Recommendation, THEY ARE AWESOME! and i concur The sound is truly diff very pleasing and fun! gaming movies and bass forward music shine with these Argons, I got my pair a few days Argon and haven't taken them off!!! My new fav. (i also own Senn 6xx, Folcal X and Koss) Brilliant work Josh
That's the TRP mod I would like to buy.. thanks for the review..
Have you bought it? Can you compare the SOUNDSTAGE and openness to any other headphones?
verticality IRL is normally achieved because your ears block and interact with incoming sound in different ways depending on what direction they come from. My guess as to how the headphones are simulating verticality is that they simulate the effect of having ears by modifying the response curve so that it produces sound that sounds like it's passed through ears already.
Any plans are reviewing the t60rp argons??
I’ve got the Argon mk2’s and they are KILLER. Mine are fitted with a TRRS in the cup so I mainly use them on my schiit jotunheim. I’m in the presses of finding a tube amp
Great review Josh! Its my first time seeing your channel and its very informative and clears a lot of things up. Subscribed! I think I'll be getting the protein pads with my Argons. I just goy one question for you. Will you be purchasing these for personal use??
Most likely not anytime soon. Pretty much making purchasing decisions to help the channel atm. After the channel picks up, I don't see why not!
Awesome man. You definitely need all the subscribers. Making sacrifices like that for the channel is one hell of a devotion you got there. Good luck with the channel! I'll see you around in the comment section.
Thanks Chris!
What is the intro music/background, please? It's so good!
Smooth Sailing
-Dylan Sitts
Your face while you said "Able to do it" at around 6:55 made me shit in my pants.
Why ?
I kinda wish I got the protein pads. I sent in my mass drop T-x0 for the argon mod because the T-X0 were sooo blehhhh. I got my argon mod back and thought it sounded so much better but I never thought they were bassy. Probably because I kept the stock pads from the T-X0 which I have no idea what they are.
How would you compare these to the TR X00 Ebony? Those were my favorite headphones because they were fun sounding. Most of my headphones lack some bass extension like the Sundara and HD650. I like to listen to Lana Del Ray, Florence and the Machine, 80s and some bass heavy songs. I love your channel, I've been stuck in a hospital bed for around 5 to 6 years and I'm updating all of my equipment. Id appreciate the advice.
Kyle Stevens These will be darker by a lot compared to the Ebonys and I realize that’s saying something. Deeper bass too. Both headphones great but use cases will different because sound signature will be very different, Ebonys are brighter compared to these (and I’m not saying the Ebonys are bright headphones at all, but just in comparison).
Thanks! How would you compare them with CA Cascade?
Are these still worth it in 2021? Or would you mod the T60 instead?
Wonder if modhouse would start doing the t60rp.. I think it looks promising.
Tehy accept them, but the result is very similar to the normal Argon MK3 from what Ryan has told me.
dnalekaw Hmm, I heard the T60 are slightly less dark, more treble focused (relatively to the T50 Argons). But I’d didn’t hear that from Ryan, so...
Hello there, great review! I play electronic drums via midi. I currently have the m50x and an ifi zen dac. I want to upgrade my headphones but i'm a bit cofused between these and the dt 1770s. I like bass and deep sound. Which heaphones would you recommend?
Same
Hey Josh. I thnk i found the best way to describe what you mean by verticality as I have just received my argons. Simply if you split the planar driver into thirds, the bottom third delivers bass, middle delivers mids and the top third delivers highs. I know this sounds really stupid but this is how my ears hear them and I think its the best way to describe the verticality.
This is an old video so not sure if i'll catch an answer, but I really like the background song that's rolling here, which one is it?
Did you review the single ended version or the balanced Joshua?And how much amplifier power does it need?Does it need more power than the Sundara?
do you have any dac/amp recommendation for these headphones?
Fostex T50RP headphones love power. A Schiit Heresy or Asgard 3 are a great pairing. DACs are more personal preference, but you can get a matching DAC from Schiit too.
@@edwarddodge7937 Hi Edward! Do you have experince with Argon Mk3s and drive them with a Schiit Heresy?? DMS says in this viedeo you need a lot of power like 6 or 8 watt.... Iam thinking about to buy and drive them with Schiit Heresy but i dont know if it will fit well... Maximum Power, 50 ohms: 1.6W RMS per channel
czcams.com/video/Nr1uU71xk8E/video.html 6:00 minute
@@edwarddodge7937 is that enough power tho?
@@schattenk If I were you I'd plunk down the extra cash for an Asgard over a Heresy or a 3+. The more power the better.
@@thisisbeanton It is for me! But who knows what's I'm the future?
I‘m using the DT1990/1770 right now. Been very happy woth the 1990, the 1770 is fine with EQ, but I‘m not satisfied. Might the Argon Mk3 be an option?
Do the Argons ever go on sale? For black friday, etc?
Great Sound Mix! Bravo!!! Great stuff.
This is definitely the best argons review
is a SMSL SP200 adequate for powering these?
Is there any portable headphone amp that would be able to power these headphones properly? I've seen people mentioning the Topping NX4 and the xDuoo XD-05, but I'd like to get a few more opinions on this.
Z said the newer xd-05 will power them.
XD05+ will do it. Haven’t come across a portable solution that can do Argons justice aside from them.
@@mensrea1251 I've done some looking around and I might go for the ifi idsd micro black label. That thing has more than enough power to drive them, but it's a pricey piece of equipment.
Daxtarious Yes, the iFi has even more power than the XD05+, so definitely go for it if you can afford it. I currently own the 05+ and used to own the iFi. The iFi was pretty revolutionary when it first came out, and I think it may still top all other portable solutions as far as pure power output is concerned, but as you noted it is extra pricey and the XD05+ does everything the iFi does without compromising on anything and it has more updated interface (usb C), so I can’t recommend the iFi. Personally, to my ears, the XD05+ simply sounds better. The iFi is known for its treble harshness which I can’t stand so that’s why I no longer have it. That won’t be a problem for the Argons of course and may indeed benefit, but just sayin. Good luck. You can’t go wrong either way.
Great review. Thanks mate.
great review, a the b roll, and I also like how there are no dislikes on this video, your channel is untouched,
also where do you buy or download flac files, I want some new songs so ya, maybe you should do a songs you like video or something.
Sniper Pro nerf mods my files come from quite a few different places. Download, rip, other sending me files etc. google search and you can find some good ones.
What pads and strap is the best, bets sound and comfort ? Does balance makes a difference in sound quality ?
No need for balance but i still looking for the best pads
The deerskin is the best strap
I love them but I'm selling my Argon Mk3s on ebay right now. Offer ends on April 11th 2021.
I'm sort of a beginner in audio but would the e10k be enough to power these bad boys?
I have them with the Lambskin Pads. I am not too amazed about the sound, I noticed the strange veil with some sounds jumping at you. And nothing I have besides the NFB-11 is powering it.
I am into neutral sound, as I don’t want my equipment to color anything and these are just good if you consider the price point and that they are closed (which is why I bought and use them, for the sound isolation). My hd650 are on an entire different level, for not too much more.
Hey Josh, which would be the best buy for gaming, music, movies? Phillips x2, m1060, argon mk3, or something that I didn't mention around the same price?
Have you heard any of them?
@@JoshuaValour Well, I have the x2 currently, just wondering how that stacks up to the argon or m1060. I haven't heard either of those. Wondering if in a similar price range if there is an upgrade to the x2.
@@abus3iv3 the m1060 and the argons are definitly better than the x2
Even the 400i are better
Is there any cheaper and simpler way I could mod fostex t50rp and make them sound nearly as good as the argons? Fostex headphones aren't available here, but, I can ask my friend who is traveling from US next month to get one for me.
hey guy im wondering if u can link me to a video you or someone else has that explains all things sound. where to get your music amps dacs etc. i just plug my sennheiser 569s into my phone and use youtube music with highest quality and adaptive sound on with bass eq on it. i like bass and was lookong to getting a pair of sony xb900ns or the xm1000s and the skullcandy crusher ancs but some of the problems with the skullcandy crusher ancs like the hissing lack of eq are making me thinj i should wait for next gen. then i keep watching videos from you and other headphone reviewers and ive realized how little i understand about them. dacs amps tube amps mods damn man. how do these stack up to the headphones i mentioned and where should I start
No point of other T50RP. Argons are some of the best-valued ones and actually has a use. There isn't necessarily a headphone just like it around its price. Most people have a neutral pair of headphones anyway, a good upgrade to DT770 too. And a good complimentary/secondary headphones to the likes of HD600/650
Janer Agreed! I sold my Argon mk2 on head-fi. The guy I sold it to was extremely surprised how good they were. He even said that they are better than his ZMF ORI's lol. Mk3's sounds even better to my ears.
I thought they would be practically the same? What's different about MK3 and do you use Protein or Lambskins, seems like most people chose these the most
Janer I'm using the Lambskins. The first big thing i noticed was the bigger Soundstage with better imaging. There was a 10k peak in the treble on the MK2's to my ears which is no longer in the MK3's. Finally, the mids are a bit forward. Bass remains the same.
SAF 93 Well the Argons are still one of the best cans under $1K despite other good options available. Everyone pretty much knows at this point about their efficiency so it's not a problem i think. I have not tried the TH-X00's or TH900 but i do own the HD 800's and the LCD-X's. They are obviously way more expensive and have their own pros/cons but after hearing the Argons, I can't seem to recommend anything else that performs so well under $1000. I also own a HD 6XX which is a different kind of beast.
SAF 93 i guess the new t60rp is better than the mk3 and no distortion n stuff. I didn't own them but have read good reviews.. I'm wondering if they'll be a good buy. I don't own a plannar so want one.
Cant wait for mine to come in.
Hey Charles, you didn't happen to work for a German automobile manufacturer in the Detroit area did you ?
Lambskin or protein pads
arrived yet?
Do you prefer it over the m1060 and 4xx ??? And for what
Hey Josh, what headphones sound the most similar to these?? I can't try these out and see if I like them but if there are other headphones that sound similar or share characteristics with these then I can get an idea of what it's gonna be like. There is a massive Audio store downtown and I can try out pretty much anything.
Nighthawks are the closest i have tried. It isn't exact. and there are some differences, but, it should give you an idea.
@@JoshuaValour Gotcha! Thanks
Joshua Valour Yes, completely agree. Good suggestion.
Can anyone tell me what kind of amp
Should I look at to drive these? Also should I get the balanced option?
TheDanielmeeks you can go with one of the $100 champs like the Monolith Liquid Spark or JDS Labs Atom.. or step up to massive power and clarity with the SMSL SP200. Shouldn’t need balanced with any of those. Good luck :)
David W the smsl is balanced to take advantage of it wouldn’t I need the balanced argons?
Whats your opinion about Emotiva A-100? Is it enough to drive MK3 properly? Thanks! I looking for an answer for this question forever. I hope, you can help me.
Combo John The A100 with jumpers off drive more power than any headphone amp I know of, so yeah they will power this. FYI Argons scale incredibly well, better than any headphone I have tried, so they need and can take a lot of power.
A100 ideally to get the absolute best out of these for almost all listening scenarios (“almost” because the A100s are originally speaker amps so have a noticeable noise floor. The darker signature of the Argons help cover it up but it’s there, so wouldn’t recommend for super quiet tracks where quiet subtlety required). The XD05+ will do as well. I use both depending. Strangely I tend not to pair Argons with AAA 789, not sure why...
Have you tried brainwavz xl pads with 668b's and if so how do they sound compared to those cosmos pads that you mentioned
Erkmen Önen actually, yes. I have brainwavz on. I will make a more in-depth video on this actually, at some point. But, less treble, more bass, and slightly less soundstage. More details later.
Joshua Valour thank you for the answer I'll be waiting for that video keep up the great work
Do you think it would break my bank to send my T50s from europe (and back) for this mod...?
Wich song are you referring to in the the video? The one you use to describe Soundstage
Enigma - The Lost Ones (Pretty much that whole album)
Would the balanced version be good for gaming?
what's the name of the song at the beginning?
Use shazam or Google Assistant
6:53 that scared me XD
what's the name of the background music?
The Best T50rp mod? ZMF Ori w/ Blackwood cups and cowhide pads.
pre ordered for balanced
How are they? What amp do you use?
this or dt 1770?
How do these compare to the dt1990?
It's different in everything
Closed vs opened
Planar vs dynamic
Fun vs clinical
Warm vs bright
I was curious to know what would be a recommended amp to use with the headphones?
Amp would help, but it would be very possible to drive these without an amp. I'd reccomend jds atom or monoprice liquid spark
@@ryanhannan5522 No you cannot drive them properly without an amp please delete your comment.
Yes you need an amp unfortunately not many people seem to be directly recommending one besides Z. I wouldn't buy the Xduoo as mine had to be returned after a week cause it died.
@@Osprey1994 everyone I've talked to in one of the audio discords I'm in says amp is helpful but not a neccesity. I'd reccomend getting the argons with no amp at first, seeing if you are happy without the amp, and only getting one if its not loud enough. Zeos is nuts, 3/4 the stuff he says is batshit crazy
Ryan Matthew No. Of all headphones, these need amping the most. Like as much power as you can. The XD05+ minimum, but Emotiva A100 with jumpers off, that much power. Argons scale better than any headphone I’ve tried.
Hey josh how do you think these would pair with a darkvoice? Looking for a good pair of headphones that aren’t Senns at this price range ( I own a pair of senns and the clamp force is a bit much for me). I just snagged a darkvoice on Massdrop so that’d be my only amp at the moment, also have a Modi Multibit. Thanks
IMO darkvoice doesn't have enough power for these guys. :/ They require a LOT Darkvoice is a great little tube amp, but, simply doesn't output enough power. I would also avoid planar on tubes. They generally do better with solid state amps.
I recommend M1060 (even though it is a planar. they do respond well to tubes oddly enough - sorry for the contradiction). Save a bit of money as they just dropped in price ($237) and are easy to drive, so the dark voice is plenty. Here is a link if you want to check them out - amzn.to/2MFgSNC
If you want a dynamic that can really take well to tubes - I assume you want a dark sound since you went with tubes - Look at Nighthawks - amzn.to/2C99be1
Nighthawks are actually like mini Argons, oddly enough.
can i power them decently enough with a micca origen g2 and then maybe grab an emotiva down the road?
No you can't
yet another phone to watch out for.,,,
Argons out of stock. .... What is the guy really modding? Can what he does with T50s to make Argons be done by myself?
I am so surprised that I havent heard any iteration of the fostex t50's yet.
Chris Bair you’re missing out man.
Joshua Valour oh man, I really dont want to become that guy with the wall of headphones haha cx
then don't :) ..listen to others, you're gonna enjoy your new headphones for 1 week, then you'll realise every other headphone you'll buy is just a bit different than the other and all of them are good, yet you keep changing them. Unless you have the money to lose like you would be losing at gambling, don't!
Șerban good point, now I just need to find some audiophile friends who live near me...
Its even harder because I am only 20, so most people I meet in this hobby are well above that age.
Chris Bair hard, hard..I'm 24 and I can't convince my gamer friends that also listen to music on a daily basis to change their fukin razer phones haha
Can i send T20RP ???
In the modhouse page says you can send T20/T40/T50RP...
@@davido810
Sounds logical thanks
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