This is my all time favorite Indurain a 6ft3 80kg climbing pure climbers off his wheel ALL except one, i believe this is the greatest performance ever seen.
my favourite climb/stage ever!! still remember the shock of seeing Rominger dropped..then Indurain destroying everybody! and somehow LeBlanc survives and wins...great memory
@@uberkloden some of these riders had to sleep with HRM on and had to be woke up if their heart rates got too low and had to do 20mins on a static bike to raise the HR so they would not die
What a race ... watched that live coverage and almost fainted because holding my breath watching those two great riders fighting to the finish line ... one of the best caption of Le Tour 💪💪
That's what's missing today great commentary Phil Liggett , Paul Sherwin RIP , commentators today talk more shite instead of concentrating on the race 🏁
1994 stage 17 the day i fell in love with MP he crashed wanted to quit the tour 3 times 3 hours later he finished 2nd and climbed the mountains like a eagle
@@ignacio2763 He did dope just take that as a certainty. His results are the proof. No mortal can do the times they did back in the mid 90's And we are talking about 2-4 minutes slower on the big mountains today than they were in those days. Epo is expected to give 10% or more advantage. 1 top rider on EPO will smoke all the others so noone on the top could go without doping. He just stopped right riding before they started saving the bloodsamples, so it could never be tested when the EPO tests came out around the year 2000. You were not able to test for EPO when indurain was in still on the bike. Cycling is down to a science, today, we know what the absolutely most gifted can do in watts per kilo. Noone above 70 kiloes can follow the lighter climbers today. You have to be built for climbing or loose the weight to be able to perform on the mountains. Back then the general classifications top were full of people above 70 kiloes. Because epo made them have the ability to feed their bigger muscles the oxygen needed to run a heavier body up the climbs. All the winners from at least 1990-2010 and probably up to mid 2010's if we are realistic had used epo or blooddoping. I myself dont believe believe the winner of 1989 greg lemond was clean either. But he claims to have been and lost the ability to compete with the top in the 90's. I doubt it and the EPO probably started in the mid 80's.Number 2 fignon is an admitted doper and he came 8 seconds behind greg lemond in 1989 in the closest tdf ever.
Was a bit more entertaining when it wasn't that easy to communicate. The riders had to take more decisions themselves and it made funnier and more exciting races.
I kinda disagree that cycling in the 90s was more epic. Sure that stage was epic but indurain and also guys like riis and ullrich would often just sit on the wheel on climb stages and win it in the ITT. Sure they rode some epic attacks but it was also a lot of sitting on the wheel and waiting for the TT. I feel pogacar and vingegaard are actually closer to the days of eddy merckx, especially pog is really relentless, wants to win every stage and even wins the classics in spring. To me pogacar is the new merckx, he probably won't quite match merckx wins but he has a similar killer instinct.
indurain che , in montagna , tira il collo a Pantani e , lo stacca pure ... ahahah , rido fino al 2052 ! L' anno dopo , al mondiale colombiano fara' uguale
What I immediately notice is how big these riders were 'back in the day'. What's the smallest rider here? Like 145 pounds? The biggest rider looks like he's about 2 hunge. Huge pro cyclists. Fast too! And yes, juiced to the tilt. Hey, I'm not hating, we all did it. Well, the one's whom admit it anyway.
El mejor escalador de todos los tiempos fue Federico Martín baamontes o llamado también el águila de Toledo era tan bueno que coronaba los puertos y espereba al pelotón comiéndose un 🍦
Pantani nel cui corpo mai hanno trovato tracce di epo in salita non aveva rivali da bambino a professionista,considerato da tutti i piu'grandi il miglior Scalatore della storia.
Which came first, Channel 4's Tour de France coverage, or the Mitch Docker podcast? 🙄. The music was composed by Pete Shelley (lead singer, Buzzcocks). He died just a couple of years after that podcast started
@@abegusovs Actually they are not faster. This is the era that was fastest of any of the years 1993-98. All the unbeatable records are from there. The only one to come in top 30 climbs of all time and actually maybe up to top 10 in watts per kg since that time is JOnas vingegaards stage 5 and his TT on stage 16, but its on short climbs not the long ones they are truly unbeatable by todays cyclists. Bjarne riis 96 has the craziest 35 minute watts per kg 6,9 watts per kg climb in History, Pantani has the absolute most insane climb ever of a 7,5 watts pr kg, for 23 minutes From 1994. So no they are not going as fast as this. They were really heavy dopers in these years. The best climbs ever are all done by a small club of the best in those years that is: Bjarne Riis, Pantani, Jan Ulrich, Miguel Indurain, Romminger, And Lopez who has a 6,3 watts per kg for 1 hour climb. They cannot compete with that in modern days, the records they break are the mountains that wasnt raced in this period of TDF. 93-98. Doping started to be wide spread from 1990- and less so after 98. There was obviously still cheating in armstrong era and after but the level of cheating/ level to which they boosted their blood was definitely lower. Except maybe in 2006 with Ivan basso doing an insane time also in the giro. The fact that the whole peleton who was on the dope pretty much since the 90s made the best dopers pressure eachother to the extreme and so the doping went up and higher and higher hemotocrit values were achieved, far beyond what would ever be natural achievable. So thats why we see all the records from this era.
Who ever though that an elephant could ride a bike and climb hard mountains stages, and winning tour France !! To happen 1 time would be bizarre, but 5 times is a total absurd!
Cardiac output 50 litres per minute Lung capacity almost 8 litres Resting pulse below 30bpm so heart was not put under any real strain. With physiological body stats like that taking any form of performance enhancing drugs would do more harm than good. Those numbers aren't made up.
@@luismiguelgarronrevaliente51 He was my hero too - but he doped 100%. Yes he had extraordinary physiology, an advantage - but he's up against probably 150 other doped riders who are also amongst the best in the World. It wasn't the case that Mig won 15 Tours, 10 Giros, 10 WCs. He wasn't a robot. He lost often - as all cyclists do. He lost the 96 Tour to Riis. He won the Tour on his 7th attempt. He was incredible but to stay with a 60Kg rider, who was one of the best climbers ever and doped, needed something extra. He had that - doping. He was 6' 1'' - 78-80Kg. He needed gargantuan power to ride up climbs at that speed, probably 480W+ 500 even. I'm sorry but he was a doper 100%
kim jessen Totally clean, they have analysed hundreds of his blood and urine tests and never found anything. Not the case of Armstrong. Sometimes there are men or women who can deliver more, in ex Usain Bolt, Michael Jordan, Rafael Nadal, Michel Phels... without being doped.
Big Mig deserved that stage but that's cycling. Leblanc caused him and the other climbers to work to hard on that final climb to Hautacam. Respect to a true champion and gentle giant. Got to meet him and Pascal Richard in Atlanta during the Olympics of 96.
@@BagManPL But they weren't and money and connections play an important role, as does the individual body response to the illegal supplements quite often. Something, a lot of doping supporters never seem to understand.
It's such a pity as a kid listening to PL commentary (esp 87 tour and as an Irishman Roche's epic win) the rot set in with the Lance love affair and from that point I can't listen to another word from the man...Lance destroyed more lives directly and indirectly and yet he's still podcasting about cycling..a sport he has no place in. Also Gary Imlach's take on Rominger's science was too funny to listen to...altitude, rich blood change...er Gary...sorry to disappoint you...TR...he was doped to the gills buddy!
uahahahahaha! A 80 kilos cyclist who climbed as he was a feather may be “talent absolu” only in taking twice the doping of the rest of the peloton. Dreamer
This is my all time favorite Indurain a 6ft3 80kg climbing pure climbers off his wheel ALL except one, i believe this is the greatest performance ever seen.
ulrich MOGGS bro
he was 6ft1 though.
Big Mig at La Plange the year afterwards was truly an ET performance as well
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1Yep. That was epic - he just rode the whole TdF off of his wheel without looking over his shoulder. 😊
Indurian was juiced to the eyeballs.
my favourite climb/stage ever!! still remember the shock of seeing Rominger dropped..then Indurain destroying everybody! and somehow LeBlanc survives and wins...great memory
Amazing to see Indurain again. I watched this coverage back in 1994. Indurain was a locomotive on that bike. 28bpm resting heart rate, amazing.
Superior genetics, with a healthy EPO cocktail, Indurain.
@@uberkloden some of these riders had to sleep with HRM on and had to be woke up if their heart rates got too low and had to do 20mins on a static bike to raise the HR so they would not die
Extraordinary powers of recovery from Leblanc there. Strike that from the record.
What a race ... watched that live coverage and almost fainted because holding my breath watching those two great riders fighting to the finish line ... one of the best caption of Le Tour 💪💪
I had completely forgotten about this theme song that boy did it bring back memories the moment I heard it.
Great tune that. Up there with "Aztec Gold" from 1986 world cup.
Grande Indurain.
Grande uomo è soprattutto
Grande professionista..
The amount of hemoglobin on that climb was off the charts!
Highest cumulative rbc count in the history of any sport ever
You’re brainwashed
Not to mention the amount of Epo…
I loved watching the 30 min tour highlights on channel 4 years ago. At 6:30 in this upload there's a horse neighing... Random!
SOID! THE! MIG!!! THE! TOUR! DE! FRANCE! (G,O,A,T)!!!
You know something is afoot when it's 1994 & Gewiss are getting dropped
truth
Ah! The original chanel 4 theme music and Phill L!
👌
Grande Pantani!!! Sempre nel mio cuore!!!
The profile showed just one mountain with a summit finish. It seems the mountain stages now have a lot more climbs
Most hills climbed ever in the history of the tour this year so yeah you're right.
@@thenextcr7 how you know that?
That's what's missing today great commentary Phil Liggett , Paul Sherwin RIP , commentators today talk more shite instead of concentrating on the race 🏁
Pretty sure Phil does like every tour still lol
Indurain was a nice guy but this is ridiculous. Beating Pantani and Virenque on a mountain finish...
Yep. Doped to the gills. But a nice, self-effacing country boy who went back to his farm every season and never tried to ruin anybody’s career.
@@TesterAnimal1 The Cincinnatus of cycling, but with a bit of help from science
@@TesterAnimal1 Unlike a certain American we could name
Wow I can’t believe this is 30 yrs old and Indurain is now 60yrs old 😮
Yes but strong and climbing mountains like always
This was Floyd’s inspiration for stage 16
Make Cycling Great Again: give these guys drugs again and cool little cycling caps so we get these great battles anew
This. I miss the old days before moderately effective doping controls and mandatory helmets.
They still dope plenty. Different stuff though.
Haha
😂
6:58:04 time of the winner...
37,8 Km/h
What a monsters !!!
What a farce. A 175lbs man catching and passing a 125 lbs man on those gradients
To be honest he only got caught cause he attacked too early. If he knew how pace he would have flown away from him. I'm not sure about leblanc tho.
@@abone2pick I agree. Plus, Indurain was determined to revenge his trashing by Pantani in Giro
@@kidpagronprimsank05 Regardless of motivation it's completely unnatural and so obviously doping.
Somehow the doped times were more exciting. Its kind of exciting seeing them being able to go 110% threshold for 15 minutes straight in the big gear.
It is amazing to look back and watch these guys like Indurain, Steven Roach, LeMond, and Fignon and to know they were all doped 100%.
@@ijonicus I doubt lemond was. And that's why I think he's the goat.
when were they not doped? Did you SEE the 2022 tour?!
@@ijonicus Roche nearly died in the Tour in 1987 trying to beat Delgado you twit. If he was doped up why did he collapse. Delgado didn't.
Roche retired and so did Lemond because they couldn't compete with drug addicts.
a guy as big as mig outclimbs those tiny climbers..haha epo makes it so
20 kg difference. Impossible without his inhaler.
Not every rider was a Lance Armstrong. Do some physiological research on Miguel Indurain before posting comments.
@@luismiguelgarronrevaliente51Bro you still believe in Santa Claus?
They werr alll using epo so what then?
What a crazy EPOch!
1994 stage 17 the day i fell in love with MP he crashed wanted to quit the tour 3 times 3 hours later he finished 2nd and climbed the mountains like a eagle
Not a single name mentioned who wasn't on the "questionable" list.
... Мог ли тогда кто-то предположить , что спустя 26 лет велосипед, на котором сейчас едет Индурайн , будет продаваться на EBay за 59000 $.
Don't kid yourself. Doping is still big even if if they have new drugs that don't show up.
Greatest demonstration of cycling for such a big rider to destroy the rest except for one pure climber.
Yeah because he was drugged up to the max, but Indurain fanboys pretend like he was clean.
@@blackmamba3060 any proof he was drugged or..?
@@ignacio2763 He did dope just take that as a certainty. His results are the proof. No mortal can do the times they did back in the mid 90's And we are talking about 2-4 minutes slower on the big mountains today than they were in those days. Epo is expected to give 10% or more advantage. 1 top rider on EPO will smoke all the others so noone on the top could go without doping. He just stopped right riding before they started saving the bloodsamples, so it could never be tested when the EPO tests came out around the year 2000. You were not able to test for EPO when indurain was in still on the bike.
Cycling is down to a science, today, we know what the absolutely most gifted can do in watts per kilo. Noone above 70 kiloes can follow the lighter climbers today. You have to be built for climbing or loose the weight to be able to perform on the mountains. Back then the general classifications top were full of people above 70 kiloes. Because epo made them have the ability to feed their bigger muscles the oxygen needed to run a heavier body up the climbs.
All the winners from at least 1990-2010 and probably up to mid 2010's if we are realistic had used epo or blooddoping. I myself dont believe believe the winner of 1989 greg lemond was clean either. But he claims to have been and lost the ability to compete with the top in the 90's. I doubt it and the EPO probably started in the mid 80's.Number 2 fignon is an admitted doper and he came 8 seconds behind greg lemond in 1989 in the closest tdf ever.
No entiendo por qué reproducen estas imágenes en un formato moderno cuando fueron grabadas en el clásico 4:3. ¿Por falta de cultura de la imagen?
Was a bit more entertaining when it wasn't that easy to communicate. The riders had to take more decisions themselves and it made funnier and more exciting races.
Che nostalgia 😢
Marco Pantani era il migliore di tutti 😢😢
Highest doping values ever recorded for any rider.
@@Klont123highest values was found in Bjarne riis
@@sandrozenti7186 I can’t easily find it but you’re probably right
I kinda disagree that cycling in the 90s was more epic. Sure that stage was epic but indurain and also guys like riis and ullrich would often just sit on the wheel on climb stages and win it in the ITT. Sure they rode some epic attacks but it was also a lot of sitting on the wheel and waiting for the TT.
I feel pogacar and vingegaard are actually closer to the days of eddy merckx, especially pog is really relentless, wants to win every stage and even wins the classics in spring.
To me pogacar is the new merckx, he probably won't quite match merckx wins but he has a similar killer instinct.
Pogacar is no Merckx.
indurain che , in montagna , tira il collo a Pantani e , lo stacca pure ... ahahah , rido fino al 2052 !
L' anno dopo , al mondiale colombiano fara' uguale
That was thrilling!!
Yep, nothing to see here. He is totally clean🤣
la storia poi ha parlato per loro......
Nail bitting..edge of seat stage
What I immediately notice is how big these riders were 'back in the day'. What's the smallest rider here? Like 145 pounds? The biggest rider looks like he's about 2 hunge. Huge pro cyclists. Fast too! And yes, juiced to the tilt. Hey, I'm not hating, we all did it. Well, the one's whom admit it anyway.
Ypu can say whatever you want, Pantani is the best climber of all time
Charly Gaul, Bahamontes, make your pick
El mejor escalador de todos los tiempos fue Federico Martín baamontes o llamado también el águila de Toledo era tan bueno que coronaba los puertos y espereba al pelotón comiéndose un 🍦
No he’s not
@@finscall1068 yes, he is
@@finscall1068 yes he is
Pantani nel cui corpo mai hanno trovato tracce di epo in salita non aveva rivali da bambino a professionista,considerato da tutti i piu'grandi il miglior Scalatore della storia.
Arrete la drogue.....Pantani était plus drogué et dopé que 8 Armstrong
L'unico dopato sei tu. Pantani per sempre@@pascalschwachhofer5502
Federico Martín baamontes o llamado también el águila de Toledo fue el mejor escalador de todos los tiempos
Purtroppo invece nessuno come pantani,i piu'grandi del passato lo hanno ammesso non io,i suoi record durano ancora oggi e non per il doping.
Non è esatto ,usando si è fratturato la gamba aveva l ' ematocrito fuori scala oltre il consentito .Vai a vedere i documenti .
Gewiss and Festina - a rolling Pharmacy...
That's the Mitch Docker podcast music in the intro
Which came first, Channel 4's Tour de France coverage, or the Mitch Docker podcast? 🙄. The music was composed by Pete Shelley (lead singer, Buzzcocks). He died just a couple of years after that podcast started
Those 👦 guys were a bit more beefy, still fit but heavier than today.
Sim verdade! Eram mais fortes e as etapas eram mais longas. No triatlo também , os atletas de antigamente eram bem mais robustos do que hoje....
Correct
Just imagine how Miguel would have climbed if he had had Aicar back in the days...
You mean they were real men not soy boys like today.
La caméra en ligne d'arrivée sert pas à grand chose.😂
Tu dire "camera" en francais? J'etudie francais et je pense le mot etais "l'appereil photo"
You don't see stages like this anymore...
What's wild us they are riding faster now than ever before.
@@abegusovs Actually they are not faster. This is the era that was fastest of any of the years 1993-98. All the unbeatable records are from there. The only one to come in top 30 climbs of all time and actually maybe up to top 10 in watts per kg since that time is JOnas vingegaards stage 5 and his TT on stage 16, but its on short climbs not the long ones they are truly unbeatable by todays cyclists. Bjarne riis 96 has the craziest 35 minute watts per kg 6,9 watts per kg climb in History, Pantani has the absolute most insane climb ever of a 7,5 watts pr kg, for 23 minutes From 1994.
So no they are not going as fast as this. They were really heavy dopers in these years. The best climbs ever are all done by a small club of the best in those years that is: Bjarne Riis, Pantani, Jan Ulrich, Miguel Indurain, Romminger, And Lopez who has a 6,3 watts per kg for 1 hour climb. They cannot compete with that in modern days, the records they break are the mountains that wasnt raced in this period of TDF. 93-98.
Doping started to be wide spread from 1990- and less so after 98. There was obviously still cheating in armstrong era and after but the level of cheating/ level to which they boosted their blood was definitely lower. Except maybe in 2006 with Ivan basso doing an insane time also in the giro. The fact that the whole peleton who was on the dope pretty much since the 90s made the best dopers pressure eachother to the extreme and so the doping went up and higher and higher hemotocrit values were achieved, far beyond what would ever be natural achievable. So thats why we see all the records from this era.
Who ever though that an elephant could ride a bike and climb hard mountains stages, and winning tour France !!
To happen 1 time would be bizarre, but 5 times is a total absurd!
leblanc above 60% here...
Very interesting to see how the riding style changed.
130mm stems and 46cm bars as far as the eye can see !
In ya vein was great.
Yet some even think he was clean!. 18kilos heavier against the best and most doped climber? Come on
Cardiac output 50 litres per minute
Lung capacity almost 8 litres
Resting pulse below 30bpm so heart was not put under any real strain. With physiological body stats like that taking any form of performance enhancing drugs would do more harm than good. Those numbers aren't made up.
@@luismiguelgarronrevaliente51 He was my hero too - but he doped 100%. Yes he had extraordinary physiology, an advantage - but he's up against probably 150 other doped riders who are also amongst the best in the World. It wasn't the case that Mig won 15 Tours, 10 Giros, 10 WCs. He wasn't a robot. He lost often - as all cyclists do. He lost the 96 Tour to Riis. He won the Tour on his 7th attempt. He was incredible but to stay with a 60Kg rider, who was one of the best climbers ever and doped, needed something extra. He had that - doping. He was 6' 1'' - 78-80Kg. He needed gargantuan power to ride up climbs at that speed, probably 480W+ 500 even. I'm sorry but he was a doper 100%
You must be delusional to believe in natty 500 plus watt ftps, even at 80kg. Some people never learn.
Amazing how these 2 legends were 100% clean, unlike Armstrong. 😤 Just let them keep all the medals and glory why not.
😂
I love sarcasm!
Amazing how Amstrong is still alive and Pantani is not. You could show some respect if you knew any !
LOL, the sarcasm there is almost as high as the hematocrit counts here.
Armstrong wasn’t the exception .
the only one still today..: EDDY ...?
steel bikes
And steel balls😅
Big Mig crushing souls.
A pharmacists dream. 😀
Indurain was a beast, and was always clean. Not like others.
Indurain was a beast, but with all of respect do you really believe he was clean?
Spain was at that time full of doping...
kim jessen Totally clean, they have analysed hundreds of his blood and urine tests and never found anything. Not the case of Armstrong. Sometimes there are men or women who can deliver more, in ex Usain Bolt, Michael Jordan, Rafael Nadal, Michel Phels... without being doped.
What a man of faith you are. I wish I had 10% of what you have.
You can't possibly be serious...
@@pablitooten his doctor was Michele Ferrari man. the one that doped armstrong to win the 7 tours.
Leblanc le méga dopé
Big Mig deserved that stage but that's cycling. Leblanc caused him and the other climbers to work to hard on that final climb to Hautacam. Respect to a true champion and gentle giant. Got to meet him and Pascal Richard in Atlanta during the Olympics of 96.
epo fog
epo poso vs epo ++++++ lol
Le Tour de Juice.
20:54 "Well I've never seen Indurain in all his tours ride like this" 🤣🤣💉💉
They’re all cheating but it was fun to watch
Is an unenforced rule really a rule?
which means technically noone is cheating if they're all on the same stuff.
@@BagManPL But they weren't and money and connections play an important role, as does the individual body response to the illegal supplements quite often. Something, a lot of doping supporters never seem to understand.
💉💉syringe
Don't think it was a necessity for Indurain given his unusual body physique
Armstrong invented doping
He was the only one in the history of cycle races... ;)
Ha ha… really😂😂😂😂 . He perfected it but all these guys since 91 were doped to the gills.
Merckx made it populair
@@marcospeekenbrink9725 Balony…riders were jacked with EPO from approx 1990 onwards. Prof Conconi had Indurain’s blood radioactive here.
@@timdixoHalf of the peloton where on amfetamine (speed) in the early 70's.
It's such a pity as a kid listening to PL commentary (esp 87 tour and as an Irishman Roche's epic win) the rot set in with the Lance love affair and from that point I can't listen to another word from the man...Lance destroyed more lives directly and indirectly and yet he's still podcasting about cycling..a sport he has no place in. Also Gary Imlach's take on Rominger's science was too funny to listen to...altitude, rich blood change...er Gary...sorry to disappoint you...TR...he was doped to the gills buddy!
Lance Armstrong STILL SUCKS............... Greg Lemond, THE GREATEST AMERICAN CYCLIST EVER!!!!
Lighten up Francis
Are you silly. This was a heavily doped trio. Lance continued the tradition set by festina. Stop the dishonest lance hate.
It is almost impossible to name a clean cyclist for the last 100 yrs. I concur, lighten the F up, Francis
Nah Lance was awesome I do think he killed it with going over 5 wins shldve stopped at 5
Dopage et compagnie
Le dopé italien contre le talent absolu....
uahahahahaha! A 80 kilos cyclist who climbed as he was a feather may be “talent absolu” only in taking twice the doping of the rest of the peloton. Dreamer
Grande indurain.Pantani drogatoookkk
Tu sei drogato, Pantani fu l'ultimo vero campione.
Perché invece el Miguelón era pulito, pesava 78kg e andava su con gli scalatori...
delusional.
Drogati
Erano tutti dopati, ci mancherebbe altro. Bugno, Pantani, Indurain, tutti i corridori di classifica.
Rominger doesn’t prepare by doing the races because there are controls at races. 😅
Lotta EPO and oxygenated blood there. 😀
Presten Atención
🗣️Pantani
Rey de la Mentira y la farsa
Rey
De la trampa
Induran
El mejor.de.todos.los.tiempos
Poverino te
Un corredor de casi 80kg subiendo como una moto, esa es la mentira mas descarada que vive hasta el dia de hoy