HiBoy S2 MAX Scooter - How To Remove Rear Tire And Change Flat Tire
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2022
- This video shows you how to remove the rear tire, tire tubes, and replace a flat tire tube.
It also shows you how to prevent flat tires and stop flats.
NOTE - Due to multiple questions about this. KEEP THE OLD TUBE CAP AND USE THAT ONE ON THE NEW TUBES.
It's shorter than the one they give you with the new tubes and won't hit the frame.
FVRITO 10x2.50/2.75 10 Inch Inner Tube for Smart Self Balance mobility Electric Scooter 36v 48v 400w 500w 800w Hub Motor Mijia M365 With TR87 Angled Stem 2 Pack a.co/d/6JA04GA
BW Bike Tire Liners - Inner Tube Flat Protectors for Road, MTB and BMX Bicycles - 12”, 16”, 18”, 20”, 24”, 26”, 27.5”, 29” and 700c a.co/d/12B3LIZ - Zábava
Thanks for the video. I had a flat on my Hiboy S2 Max, exactly what you said valve stem leak. I did not disconnect the wheel , but taking off the tire was a pain, reinstalling was also tough. The tube you recommended worked great. Thanks!!
No worries. Just trying to save some people some hassle.
What size would I get for the s2 . The green sealer ? They don't have size 10 wheel ?@@DarkMindsdotBIZ
Hello I recently had a flat tire on my Hiboy S2Max and I watched your video. It didn’t seem correct to have to take apart the wires just to change a flat. I noticed the tires have a split ring / hub design. All you have to do is loosen the tire and take it out of the cradle and rest it on its side on the bottom of the frame with tube fill up. Remove all six Allen screws on the hub ring and the tire and tube will pull right off. Replace tube and tire then push down evenly so the center tire ring is just below the lip. Replace hub ring, fill with air and put tire back on and tighten nuts. It’s very easy and no messing with bottom plate and wires.
That would be a great improvement! I will check this out on our next model!
I noticed on all our new model Hiboys, there have been a lot of changes that make replacing parts much easier.
The throttle is a nightmare replacing, BUT the new models have a plug and play design.
So, in short, if they have split hubs now, that sounds much simpler. If all ours have split hubs too, I wasn't aware and apparently, neither is Hiboy since their support said you have to replace the entire thing in order to replace the tire.
Thanks for the link!
Hey man, I just replaced the tire tutorial that you made was pretty decent, but I feel like you made it more complicated than it needs to be. You do not need to open the bottom of the deck to replace the tire. You can slip it off of the side that does not have the cord.
Where do you get the innertubes? Great video!
Hey. Thanks for the video. Quick question if you don’t mind. I lost the rubber piece when I opened to fix my tyre. Do u know where I can get that replacement please.
The rubber grommet between the tire and the inside? If so, the best I got is fill it with a weatherproof silicone or something like that. It's just to keep the water out. Over-do it.
Thanks for the video! Do you have a link for the tires you used?
Same tires... just different tubes and added the flat guards. Both links are in the description. ;)
The video is helpful. Thanks for that, however, I didn't see the part you disconnect the cables and putting it back, so I am still nervous about it. I got my first flat tyre today. Do we have to change the outer tyre? I will buy those recommended items you put on the description of this video.
Like i show in the video, there are only a few wires and they are all color matching connections. No need to cut any wires, just the harnesses over them to get them to disconnect. You'll have to add new sleeves over them and just reverse the process when you put it back together. There isn't anything complicated about it. Don't over think it. Replace the tire and reconnect everything you disconnected.
@@DarkMindsdotBIZYeah i appreciate this follow up comment because after watching I’m still afraid of messing something up. i just caught a flat and i think it’s going to be a tough but i’ll try
So I bought a set of the inner tubes you recommended it looks like the exact inner tube for the front tire. As far as the angle that it bends?
They are both the same. Front and back
Thank you for this video! Go figure, I've had mine about 2 weeks and first puncture was the rear wheel! UGH!! Can you tell me where you took it to have the tire changed? Who could do that? Thanks.
Just got to some smaller tire shops and you'll find one that will help ya. Don't go to the big shops. You'll have less luck there.
How do you actually take out the tire?
Do you think a product like fix a flat would work on these tires since it has worked on car tires?
I've tried a few kinds... but... fix a flat type products require a lot of air to push the product into the hole. These tires don't have that much air in them. So.... it's never worked for me.
Just took care of my s2 Max flat. It’s pretty simple. Almost self explanatory. When you get to the split wheel hub plate. That must come off prior to the actual tire coming off. You’ll need a wrench, needle nose pliers, screw drivers, and Allen keys. I have a jump box so I aired it up at home.
You can simply set the wheel on its side right where you took it out of.
Question... if you used the split method, may I ask how did you get past the permanent lock tight on the 12(?) Star bits?
I went right out and grabbed my new hub/rim set they had sent me and every single screw but 1 just stripped out. Yes it's the right bit, and no I wasn't using a hammer drill.
And yes I flipped it to the other side and stripped 3 of those. All soaked in permanent lock tight.
So... what's your trick?
@@DarkMindsdotBIZ that may be the difference. Mine were hexagonal first and foremost. And they used moderate hood threadlockers. It was blue rather than red. Once I got the wheel itself detached, I took out my Allen key set and used that to remove the hexagonal bolts that kept the face plate for the split hub tightened. After those came out (all had blue threadlocker on it) I used the needle nose for the nut around the air valve.
I did notice that a nut that held the wheel in its carriage had red loctite on it. That was a nasty process to get it off. Ended up using a wrench to pull the washer off.
@@DarkMindsdotBIZ that was pretty wordy but I didn’t have permanent loctite in my hex-bits. They used the moderate one on my model. I think that’s careless of them to use permanent hold on parts that will need to be serviced at some point.
@@DarkMindsdotBIZ by the way, your video helped a bunch. I appreciate you even taking the time to explain. Can’t find much on s2 max here.
Hey bud, thanks for this. I will probably figure it out by the time you see this question. But I should for the same scooter, just remove the reflector stickers, then remove Allen key plastic axel bolts then do the split wheel casing? Finally do the tire change? Then reverse the order?
How did you get the wires with the 2 rubber protectors part. I’m at that step but I’m afraid to break it
Did you apart? The two wires coated with a rubber connector?
If that's what you mean, ... very carefully slice the rubber cover with a razor blade... slow and careful. Its just a cover. The the wires can be separated. You'll need to replace that cover with another one. Heat shrink rubber cover. Put it on the wire BEFORE putting the wires back together.
In the end... it's just a wire. It can always be spliced back together if all else fails.
Don't overthink it to much. Just go slow and think about what you're doing. Take apart, and put back together making sure everything is protected from water in anyway you believe will work best. These are not Teslas. Frame, motor, wires... after you accept that... all the worries go away.
Have an important question and i hope u can give me an answer to it. Well i went to a repair shop and guy took out the damaged tube and put the tyre back together without the tube in it. He said its better this way and i will have no problems with it, to just make sure to put air in it often. But when i left the shop the scooter started vibrating and sounding like a jet engine. So is it ok for it not to have a tube in it and do u think thats what is cuasing the noise and shaking ?😮
Well, it's not a tubeless tire. So, no dout, that's the problem. I wish I could help out on that one, but I've never went down that road.
Hey boss. When you took the second layer of covering off of the yellow, blue and green wires, what did you use to recover them?
You can just use normal wire connectors. Preferably a crimp type connector. Then, if you have it, use heat shrinking wire cover. (I forget the name) It's not critical at all. Just connect the wire securely. So it won't come apart with vibration.
If you are going to use the shrink wrap over your connector, make sure you put it on BEFORE you crimp the wires back together. Lol
The very best thing to use are these melting connectors... but it's a whole other deal. If ya have them, ya have them. It's not a necessity.
Link
a.co/d/279Rhte
@@DarkMindsdotBIZ do I need crimping tools to disconnect the wires at all or is it straightforward to disconnect and reconnect.
@@DarkMindsdotBIZ or did you pull them to detach it
@thegreatd3860 Honesty, don't over think it. Most of it, under the sleeves, are just connectors , depending on the model, and they just unplug. Just plug it back together. Just reverse the process. Don't be scared of it. It's just wiring. But try and get it close to how it was before.
@@DarkMindsdotBIZ thanks. Almost done now. Replaced the fender and rear wheel/motor. Told them they both malfunctioned and they sent both replacements free of charge. Already bought my heat shrink,heat gun, and zip ties. Should be done within an hour
I have the S2 pro. Solid tires are the way as long as you are on flat smooth surfaces.
My only issue is the half life you get on the S2 pro. Unfortunately the max battery life is significantly longer. I have both and with the flat plate in my tires, I'd take the max any day for the longer and smoother ride. BUT if you are 150lbs or less... the pro may be the way to go?
Any idea how to complete this process with a Hiboy Max Pro?
I'll be ordering one shortly... but, honestly, they made things slightly easier in the new versions, and the worst thing your gonna run into is wires. So follow them where they go and disconnect if ya can vs cutting. Don't let it stress ya. It all comes apart. Might have to play inspector for a bit to sort it out.
Just dive in and remember... it's just a frame with wires and an electric motor.
@@DarkMindsdotBIZ please i need it thanks 🙏🏽
I had a front flat tire and was able to replace the inner tube without much trouble as you can take apart the rim and have access to the inner tube.There is a qr code on the manual that links to the instructions.
Yes, this video is for the older version. They've switched to a better, plug and play version. Lots of changes
Did you encounter any clearance issues with the valve stem and the front wheel? I just installed a tube from the link provided and it ends up hitting the front wheel axel holders 😢
Just sitting here and couldn't figure out why... but I think I know!. Did you use the stem CAP from the old tube?
Some NEW tubes have steal stem caps and they are longer.
If it's just nicking it, try the old caps.
There are a number of solutions here... I just woke up though. Lol (no glasses yet)
@@DarkMindsdotBIZ Having the same issue, ordered so many inner tubes and same problem, i no longer have the original stem cap, any recommendations.
Have the same issues, did u find a solution?
@@TB0605 I purchased the tube directly from HiBoy for the front wheel. The back wheel changed perfectly but I guess the front just has less clearance!
@@marisa1150 can you send me the link? I’ve looked and can’t find any innertubes for the S2 Max
now if only if there were videos on the max pro
Got 3 coming in this week
What size tape and tube should I buy? For the s2 max
Same size tube as the tire... the tap... as far as the tube... the link is in the description.
The tire is 10 inch so tube 10inch,but the tape starts at 12 inch, would that fit? I don't see 10 inch tape
@@Jasonb617 Always buy the longest if you can. That makes sure you can do both tires. You want to overlap inside the tires by 1 to 2 inches anyway. OVERLAP for sure.
Excellent video, thanks for making this. I have a flat rear tire, I am having trouble finding a tube replacement. Do you have any suggestions?
FVRITO 10x2.50/2.75 10 Inch Inner Tube for Smart Self Balance mobility Electric Scooter 36v 48v 400w 500w 800w Hub Motor Mijia M365 With TR87 Angled Stem 2 Pack a.co/d/6JA04GA
a.co/d/5LQ31pt
Make sure to line the tires with these too... prevent a flat before you have to de it all again
BW Bike Tire Liners - Inner Tube Flat Protectors for Road, MTB and BMX Bicycles - 12”, 16”, 18”, 20”, 24”, 26”, 27.5”, 29” and 700c a.co/d/12B3LIZ
@@DarkMindsdotBIZ You have been super helpful. Way more help than Hiboy customer support haha. Just purchased both, thank you!
What’s the exact tire measurement I want to put solid tires on mine
The first tire I tried to repair, I ended up replacing with a solid tire. It's the same measurement as listed on the side of the tire. BUT, as I've stated before, you'll need a tire shop to put it on. Try it yourself if you like, but it's going to be very frustrating, and in the end, you'll PROBABLY end up at a tire shop.
The current replacement of the throttle is a nightmare (if you watch thier instructions for replacement).
Hiboy - to eliminate the extreme measures needed for this simple replacement.... all you need to do is add a couple inches of wire, and connectors for the wires in the handlebars right near the throttle. This way you could simply remove the handlebar, pull off the grip, remove the brake and throttle, pull the extra wire out of the handlebar, unplug and replace... then put back together.... vs the extreme disassembly shown in your videos.
If anyone hasn't watched the instruction videos.... they appear to be filmed with a toaster and the tech doesn't even do the job properly, nor show you what he is doing. Just rushes through it and does not replace wire protective parts.
I thought there was a "Change Flat Tire" part in the video....
On the older versions, like this one, you CAN NOT change the tire yourself. Well, you can, but your going to give up on that pretty quickly. This is how to take it apart to have the tire tube replaced at a shop. They won't take it apart for you. That's on you. Take it apart (see video), take it to a shop, and have them change the tube. Then just put it back on.
I see. I just did it myself. Its super easy due to how they made the wheel. On the side where the pressure gauge is, when you unscrew all the bolts, theres a ring that comes off then you can remove the tire without the pliers@@DarkMindsdotBIZ Ima make a video myself next time i get a flat.
@@Atmarixx Please do. I'd be interested in that video. If it's a pain, I'm going tubeless solid tires.
@chago21920 it's not that much of a pain. It's simpler than I thought
Looks like a candidate for the solid tires they have on their other S2 scooter,... Taking that rear tire off was a nightmare.
That would be nice, but then there goes the smooth ride. There is a big difference when you go from solid to air.
ugh!!! looking to replace tires for the 1st time
This maybe a great scooter but their customer service is nonexistent. No matter how good the product is the lack of attention and response is appalling for todays day and age.
All 3 companies I've bought from are the same way, BUT Hiboy has improved over the last year. I'll give them that.
I have the same complaint. I used to have an S2 before the base of the handlebar broke. I was putting too much weight on it. Now I've got the Hiboy Titan. Smoother ride for my bad back. Got flats on both tires after a month. The original tires say Tubeless on them but they have tubes inside. Is that normal? I was so confused when they sent me a tire with a tube. And the tire they sent me has a flat surface that touches the road instead of a rounded surface like the ones that came with the scooter. 2 repair shops said it was too hard to take the tire off the rim. This sucks.
@@scattjax3908 Yeah, just all around better. I think almost all companies dropped the ball on customer service during COVID. It stayed that way. I will say... Hiboy did a good jump though and theirs is much better now, than 3 years ago.
@@scattjax3908 They say no because they're lazy. I found a side shop that will do it every time. Don't give up. You can take it off by yourself with a little effort. Put the flat protector in and the tube and then find someone to put it back on for you. Don't even bother trying that part.
Most companies went in this direction after COVID. No service at all from most.
This is an insane procedure necessary to change a flat tire! Do any manufacturers simplify this?? For this scooter, you need to remove a bunch of little screws (more than 20?), cut away all the water-tight seals on all the motor wires, unplug all the wires...and finally remove the tire/motor assembly! THEN you can actually begin to change the tube and tire. How user UN-friendly can you get??! I was going to buy this scooter, but not now!
So... the good news is... they have been switching over a lot of thier products to Plug and Play. Obviously, for exactly this reason. I agree 1000% with you.
BUT... I put flat guards in them as soon as I get ANY scooter. Then... no more flats. DONE
"Not now" - well, here's the problem. We've had a LOT of Scooters, brands, models, etc. And every single one has SOMETHING IRRITATING about it.
I am hoping this new S2 MAX PRO took all the great things about the s2 MAX and just improved everything, including Plug and play. If they did that.... they will have nailed it. 🤞
I have since done more research on scooters. It seems most scooters use this lengthy procedure to remove the powered wheel. So, I guess the S2 Max really isn't such a bad choice! Either deal with the procedure, or not get a scooter! And I fully agree...gotta use those flat guards or other technique to minimize flats! (I think solid tires would give too rough a ride so I wouldn't get those either, as on the S2 Pro.) Thanks for your video, and I appreciate your comment! --Roy
@@RoysViewingChannel Yeah, I've had a lot... they all have crazy downfalls... but the S2 Max and S2 Max Pro seems to be my favorite
@@DarkMindsdotBIZdid you get the max pro?
I'm trying to figure out how to get my rear drum brake wire back in place after changing a flat.
I literally just bought this think. This video os making me send it back. What kind of crap engineering made them make tires this hard to change????? And why tf would I want to remove the waterproof protection on my scooter?????!!!!
No idea. Maybe they fixed it in newer models? Idk. But I do know I haven't had a flat since I did all that. Those flat blockers work great.
Gotta swap out the rear tire of my wifes Max pro and im scared shitless lmao
Don't be... just follow the steps in the video and then put it back together the opposite way. They are really basic inside. All good man.