After 25years on HD with couple of years gap in riding, just got extremely lucky and pick up my first Indian challenger elite and I’m blown away by technology and performance, never go back to HD again 💪🏻👍🏻
I’ve had 3 Victories and rode them for 15+ years. Currently I have a 2019 RGS Stage IV….as it pissed me off when Polaris dumped Victory for Indian. But I get why they did it…to get more HD riders to cross over. That being said…. The Victory/Indian bikes are built better and come standard with more features. I love my RG, but had to pay extra for heated grips, satellite radio, a decent windshield. Not to mention the cost of the stage IV to get a bit of power. I could certainly see my next bike being an Indian. Great bikes with nice standard features…as yes they will stand out a bit more than a Road Glide for sure….as great a bike as they are. Maybe I’ll have one of each….why not!
Just picked up a Challenger Elite and had the dealer add HomeLink, saddlebag guards, Stage 1 intake, Stage 2 cams, and Rinehart slipons. Looks and sounds great.
Got mine 1 week ago and love it owned 5 Harley’s will not look back . The only problem with the elite is everyone gathers around to look at every time I stop to have a cold one
Good evaluation of the features. I just upgraded from a Shadow 750 that I rode for 10 years to the Pursuit premium limited which shares most features with this bike. I have had it for about 2 weeks and have been blown away. This bike has met and exceeded every idea I had about what a bike can do. I am not rich, this was probably a once in a lifetime thing for me. I compared point by point this bike and others to more bikes than I can count. I have watched hundreds of videos on competitive options, talked to owners of every other bike I considered against this platform. I test rode at least 6 other bikes. The only bike I didn't get to test and I suspect is it's strongest competitor is the goldwing. Like you said CVO was a lot more money and offered little in return side by side for the price. You really have to have a lot of brand loyalty to HD to choose the CVO. I think they are awesome, and there are reasons other than the spec sheet to choose a bike. I think most of Indians short comings are in the ride command software, and a few fit and finish issues. I think these days it's actually hard to make a wrong decision when it comes to buying a bike. There are so many amazing option from Harleys, Indians, Hondas, BMWs etc that I would be proud to own.
Looks and sounds like you're a few steps ahead...lol I've been riding a VT750 deluxe and looking to upgrade. Very reliable little bikes but not much comfort for longer trips. I've been able to get it narrowed down to Road King Standard or Challenger... I just wish they didn't have all the computer stuff on the newer bikes. They are nice, but I can't come to trust the reliability of electronics and software.
@@alp3781 I got my bike about a month ago in the middle of July. The temp has routinely been over 100°f if it's hot the fans come on, and at stops the rear cylinder deactivation kicks in. I can't compare it to an air cooled engine because I don't have one but I don't consider the heat excessive. I feel more heat on the right side but I have been on bikes that are worse. Riding in the heat in stop and go will always suck but to me the bike is on par or better than most liquid cooled bikes I have ridden. I imagine the heat would be even if I removed the catalytic converter
I laughed when I saw the HD CVO prices. Then I watched this video. I gotta give it to IMC on this one for diving into the custom factory world and selling at a price more people can afford. Now, there's only 200 of these. Bummer.
I really hope Harley is paying attention to the competition because I for one will definitely be test riding an Indian before I buy my next bike. I have a 2020 Road Glide Special the I love but this is the first bike from Indian that finally caught my eye.
So agree with you. Between the BMW, Goldwing and now Indian, HD needs to stop taking ZZZZZ quell. I think Indian really listen to riders and abuse its engineers to create just the right bike for all.
I test rode several Indians when I was ready to go bigger from my Harley sportster. At the time I was looking for a possible alternative one of the Harley Soft Tails. The Indians I took out were great, but I just couldn't get over the disparity between the 2 company's when it came to customer support. 199 Indian dealers in the US . . . 681 Harley dealers. So I bought a 2018 Harley Deluxe and was very happy. Here in Salt Lake, I've got 3 dealers within 20 miles of my home . . . 1 within 5 miles. In 2020, I also bought a CVO street glide with the 117. When the supply crunch happened to the industry, it sure was nice to have 3 dealers close by that had a combined current inventory that fulfilled all of my needs. On another note, every time I went into the Indian dealership, I had to walk through all of the other vehicles made by Polaris to get to the bikes. When I go into a Harley dealership, it is crystal clear what they're all about and who their customers are.
From dealer to touring. Unlike Harley where I realized I needed a passenger backrest,Passenger floorboards, and a taller windshield before I even got it home.
I am one of the lucky ones to get this bike from Gregory Polaris in AR. I'm 65 yrs old and have rode triumphs and Harleys all my life. I bought this bike,loaded it the next day and left for Sturgis. It is the most comfortable ride I've ever set on. Handles so well and it's a Joy to ride.Will out perform most baggers.Drew massive crowds everywhere I went. Cruised it at 85 in the Badlands and no buffering behind shield. Awesome stereo sound. I'm sold on this Indian. Thanks for your story on this bike it Does not disappoint in anyway. Jerry.
I pass a Polaris dealership from time to time. I even went in there once. Golf carts everywhere, some four wheelers and side by sides…but just a handful of bikes. A customer was talking to two guys in the service area for a few and left. The two guys saw me and didn’t say a word. The same thing with everyone else that worked there that were busy moving around golf carts and such. I’ll keep my 2019 road glide special.
Heated hand grips also I love it great power great ride and looks great. Took it to Sturgis put 2400 miles on it and no issues other than forgetting to put up the kick stand once and it dies when u put it into gear safety device.
I bought a 2021 road glide cvo.. had a road glide limited before that… I give Polaris a fair chance but it never come close to getting my choice… it’s a distant second at best
Yes but you are a harley davidson clothing company fanatic. Personally I think the road glide looks like shit. The fairing looks like an after thought. Cheers 🍺 🍺 🍺 🍺 🍺 🍺 🇳🇿🏴🇬🇧😁
@@stuwhyte479 everyone has an opinion… yours is wrong but hold onto it… maybe one day your wife will let you buy a Harley then you can tell everyone how great they are.. until then we will pretend you just don’t like them
@@stuwhyte479 it’s nice bike maybe even better but without a doubt tried to replicate every styling point from the RG even to the Harley colors… get over yourself and appreciate the HD for what it does for the motorcycle world
@@hanleydaleson954 I respect your opinion. But being the proud owner of a 1988 fxlr that I've had since 1989.. But some times in life you get tired of oranges and apples look like a good alternative.. My apples are a 2020 chieftain darkhorse. Best of the best as far as I'm concerned. Honestly Harry Davidson are slowly but surely getting their complesant take their customers for granted arses kicked.. Goodbye Harry Davidson hello Indian. Cheers 🍺 🍺 🍺 🍺 🍺 🍺 🇳🇿🇬🇧🏴🇬🇧🏴🇬🇧
You have to remember, HD has the benefit of never shutting down thanks to help from Reagan and many others over the decades. Love Reagan, but he should've stayed out of it. HD is like the failed child getting bailed out by daddy many times over. It takes a company (of any large product) many successful years before they ever consider opening a custom shop within their company. Indian succeeded and failed all on its own merits. With zero outside help. Indian Motorcycle Company is still a recent re-opening with Polaris, and they're slowly getting out more detailed paint jobs. The Dark Horse editions have been a success. Now, as seen with this video, they are getting into more custom styles of paint schemes. Your judgemental view of Indian being a distant second is really lopsided. Where would HD be right now if they failed during the Great Depression, or WW2 or post-WW2 without a lucrative War Department contact? What if they had to go thru with their bankruptcy proceedings? Where would Victory be right now if HD had to honestly earn their struggles over the years? I think we'd have three major American MC manufacturers right now instead of two. What if HD was forced to honestly compete with Japanese bikes in the 1980's? Maybe we'd have the Bronx line already, who knows?
This is the sharpest Indian produced; fantastic lines and features. The regular Indian technological features, power and suspension system are usually superior to HD. That stated, I had eyes only for my 21 CVO Road Glide….I paid Much more for it than a comparable Indian but a more practical rider should heavily consider the Indian
Been riding since 1967 ,5 years old on a Honda mini trail50. Rode many brands on street over the years,was a sponsored moto racer in late ‘70s. Love my current 88 and don’t figure I need much more than cams and a fuel pack/ tuner to make it a bit happier for me. It’s also a jockey shift set up that just messes with RUB heads when I can put it sideways, throttle hand on the bars, and go through the gears.
The problem with Victory was lack of marketing and support. Indian does not suffer that problem. Polaris learned from their Victory mistakes. Not for nothing Victory was not a bad bike but the problem was too few dealerships had techs trained to program them properly when upgrading or performance modding them. I rode several different models and found them to be quite impressive and comfortable for long distance runs. Again, the lack of support was the ultimate downfall for Victory IMO.
The $35,000 sticker price is not really a end price at all. Destination, setup, prep.. blaah blahh, blahh.. i found one on showroom floor and had an hour to decide to buy. Yes, its around $43,000 with all the extra crap. Does HD have same false advertising price ? I have a 20 challenger DH and needed $20,000 to trade for the elite. $20,000 for a different paint job... yikes.
I can barely breathe .... 🤣 If I was in the market for a new road bike, right now it would only be a Challenger or Pursuit. I'm still going to be lumping my ol' Victory Cross Country along for a few more years...But, I'm anxious to see what Indian comes up with around the Power Plus engine by the time I'm ready...
Polaris has Indian killing it in the world of motorcycles. I went to a Bike Night at a local Gun Range and was impressed by all the Indians and amount of them compared to any others. They all look great and sound so amazing. I would love to own this bike you detailed in your video. 💪😎👍
Amazing looking bike and incredible tech. I like H-D, but they are no where close on that tech...Price? CVO is much more as you mention. Those options/upgrades need to make their way into a regular production bike.
I'm completely impressed with this bike. The paint color match is sick, I have a 2022 road glide special and I wish my bike had some of this nice features on this bike.Nice video, thanks for sharing.
I own a 17 street glide and love it, I also looked at the chieftain and loved it’s features and was considering either, got a gredeal on a street glide and that’s where I’m at and love it. Personally I think they are both great bikes but I’m more concerned with the equity. I was considering buying a road glide and went to my credit union yesterday and they offer 3.75% loan on a Harley with 100 % value and 5.9 less than 100% on everything else At that point I had to ask myself why I would consider anything but a Harley. Hmmm. Then I also took into consideration how many dealers and shops provide service to Harley’s and others. I think for now I’ll stay with Harley. Just my 2 cents…
Dieselsmokef350 well said, it’s important to love the bikes we own, or owe on, if we don’t then we’re payin on something wishin we had something else. And that’s shitty. I own a 14 dyna street bob, love it. Test road the new road glide limited and loved it. But big decision right, 37k after all the bullshit. Plus they had me at 9% interest( credit is 728). Went up the road and test road the challenger limited and bought it, I love it! Like look for an excuse to ride it all the time love it. Plus it was 7k cheaper and interest was %4.8. Which is still shit, but that’s where we are at now with the fed raising the hell out of it… Good day man!
Indian dealerships are about as common as BMW dealerships. Meanwhile Harley Davidson dealerships are everywhere. And for a touring rider, it gives some peace of mind knowing you aren't ever likely to need your bike towed hundreds of miles to get to the nearest dealership.
I love your channel bud, but to call the front end of the Challenger a “Cyclops” is a “Harley Play”. The Challenger front end is friggin way better looking than the RG! Harley just makes the same old worn out stuff year after year without listening to their customers or investing in their technology. You’ll need to mention to your boys that they need to drop $10k on their new Gezzer Glide to keep up with a stock Challenger! My money goes to the Indian Challenger. I just had my ECU tune done and my rpm limiter is moved to 6500 and the speed limiter is moved to 150. And yes, she will do 150 with only a stage 1 exhaust! Cyclops my ass! The only thing you’ll see is the ass end of a Challenger and you know it!
A lot of people are complaining that a CVO doesn't justify the extra 13K. CVO's only advantage is the paint job. But when it comes to tech and performance, the Indian beats it hands down.
An American Motorcycle Rematch Indian Motorcycle was founded in 1901, and Harley-Davidson two years later. Both companies built groundbreaking bikes, delivering motorcycles to police forces, racing them on the dirt track, providing a simple alternative to the automobile, and serving in both world wars.
My 2009 Polaris Victory Vision required towing twice in the four years I owned it. My Harley on the other hand has never broke down. If it did I'm pretty sure there is a dealer a lot closer than a Polaris Indian dealer.
I pulled the trigger going from a Honda Monkey to a 2023 Indian Challenger. The Indian has waaay more power, and I am no longer being passed by overweight dump trucks. Plus, my girlfriend has a place to sit with no more contortion acts. All in all, a better ride.
I would be happy with the regular Challenger dark horse at this point. Of course I love this bike! I have two Indians already and would be tickled to death to make it 3.
I sat on it and looked at this bike in Sturgis. If I was up for paying that cost or going to a new payment, I would absolutely trade my RG for this Indian Challenger. It is a beautiful bike.
Lol. My Challenger is more exclusive. Riot Orange Smoke, it's an Icon. They're making less than 10 of these. During normal times, (pre shortages) Icon Indians were limited to 50 or less. But that elite is definitely the best looking one. Edit: it's actually on par with the 131, it exceeds the 117. Also, the puddle light, all the challengers had that, but they removed it for 22 models. You can buy it though 😆
How do they sound? Love the sound of Harley. Nothing better than pulling on that throttle and hearing the roar of a Harley, especially with upgraded pipes and cams
I would trade my 2017 M8 Harley Davidson for a Indian Challenger period. This bike/bagger is the modern motorcycle. One hole oil fill and oil drain, no pushrods, no lifters, full counter balancing, ride modes, locking saddle bags with remote and full liquid cooling. HD has a modern engine but their playing around holding onto their bottom end cam bikes for some reason while pricing people off their brand.
great looking bike, 200 is too little. I think they would have sold 500 of them easy. sweet bike with lots of extras.i am a HD guy but I would consider this .
I really like it it's a very nice motorcycle and the price range is way cheaper than the CVO Harleys by 15 to $20,000 cheaper if I had the money I'd buy that Indian in a minute
The Indians are a great motorcycle 🏍 i had a victory 20 years ago and that bike has 68k on it still goin,I was kinda bummed when they announced victory was shutting down,but hands down the Indian is a better bike ,but I would hope so its a newer bike and people exspect the best with today's technology theres no reason why the consumer can't get the best product 👍 if not there's enough aftermarket support now to build your own bike better than any factory bike .but I will say this,its not a harley davidson nor is it trying to be totally different ride power and ride comes on different. Its good that manufacturers push each other because that forces them to build a better product for 🇺🇸 us ,I honestly believe everyone should own a Indian and a harley, they are both fantastic products nothing is perfect and the aftermarket world will fill that niche for guys that want above and beyond what a factory engine can do.god bless America 🇺🇸 and the amazing America muscle cruising tour motorcycle 🏍 ✌
Awesome looking bike. They're way ahead of harley. Wonder why the suspension isn't automatically adjusted for you. My bmw 1250rt has auto suspension but does the preload by itself depending on weight of rider/passenger and is always adjusting. Their older bikes you had to tell the bike what kind of load you had. Figured they'd all be going this way instead. Regardless one nice bike.
Tell how and where they’re ahead, I’m genuinely confused when I read these fanboy comments and they always lack the detail with these baseless claims so I’ll wait bud…
@@humbleservant1294 no led turn signals, no electric windshield, indian powerplus engine literally eats the m8, fox suspension on indian. No need for upgrade. Yeah hd is rocking it. Smh
@@aarondeere You’re talking specifics and I’m not sure if the Cvo’s come with the specific things you mentioned because what you’re talking about doesn’t come on every model Indian it comes on their premium model cruisers. It’s not something found on every model. You fail to mention how Indians snap at the neck on their shit frames and how they also have a Chevy Malibu radiator stuck behind the front tire. Ugliest bikes on the market. The only model worth owning is the their Chief. It’s an actual Air cooled vtwin. Radiators don’t belong on Motorcycles period
Such a beautiful bike, I actually had the chance to get one but had to pass on it because of some previous financial decisions. Great looking and performing piece of machinery!! All Challengers have the same engine and all of them have all LED as well.
Absolutely, i do as well. I’ve had many brands of motorcycles over the years and nothing replicates the feeling of going down the road on a Harley. It’s a very special thing.
I just picked up my new st in gray 2 weeks ago. I sport tour more than long distance 500 mile days etc. I love the new st it's the best Harley I've had.
Lol… how do you get that? Because it’s not 100% water cooled?… when all of Polaris is not water cooled either… yeah my windshield doesn’t move 😂😂😂.. ride what you like .. Polaris never come close to being my choice it’s an ugly design.. Polaris has terrible engineering
For this Amount of money I really think it needs heat grips seat w cool option. needs to have the option of trunk too … they need options oh and the color option aren’t much like maroon is my favorite color … I’m not a chrome dude why can’t I get all blacked out? Idk
Sweet Ride! Fairing needs some styling tweeks to get it right though. Other than that Beautiful Bike! OH, Needs some chrome also😎 Thanks for the video👍
Excellent review and video! I have a 17 Road Glide Special and would love to find a dealer here in NY that has 1 of those Elite Challengers to trade up! 😉
Nice bike but the Paint quality / fit & finish of Polaris compared to a Harley CVO is not even in the same league . Farm league to Major League. I won’t even go into resale value .
Obsoletely beautiful !!!! I do think, the rear lights are too old school. It should have been sexier looking. Between old and new. I think this Infotainment system is better than my 2020 Goldwing's.
You must be legally blind ! The Challenger looks nothing like a road glide! And trust me you need all those dealerships Riding a Harley. Great looking bikes though.
i wish Indian would come up with a super stripped version of this bike. like a roadking. give me a bike without all the garbage on it. maybe abs and cruise control , oh and i like the lock feature.
This is what Harley deserves. I've owned 25 Harleys and I knew this was coming
After 25years on HD with couple of years gap in riding, just got extremely lucky and pick up my first Indian challenger elite and I’m blown away by technology and performance, never go back to HD again 💪🏻👍🏻
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I’ve had 3 Victories and rode them for 15+ years.
Currently I have a 2019 RGS Stage IV….as it pissed me off when Polaris dumped Victory for Indian.
But I get why they did it…to get more HD riders to cross over.
That being said….
The Victory/Indian bikes are built better and come standard with more features.
I love my RG, but had to pay extra for heated grips, satellite radio, a decent windshield. Not to mention the cost of the stage IV to get a bit of power.
I could certainly see my next bike being an Indian.
Great bikes with nice standard features…as yes they will stand out a bit more than a Road Glide for sure….as great a bike as they are. Maybe I’ll have one of each….why not!
Just picked up a Challenger Elite and had the dealer add HomeLink, saddlebag guards, Stage 1 intake, Stage 2 cams, and Rinehart slipons. Looks and sounds great.
Would love to hear what it sounds like. Can’t find any clips online
Damn!! Where's that dealer at? I'd like to get my Challenger from him. I'll fly there if I have to.
Englehart Indian of Madison WI@@marksmith9350
50 year Harley ultra man here. I would trade mine in in a heart beat.
Got mine 1 week ago and love it owned 5 Harley’s will not look back . The only problem with the elite is everyone gathers around to look at every time I stop to have a cold one
Eerily looks just like one of the paint schemes from a Victory Magnum 😳
Good evaluation of the features. I just upgraded from a Shadow 750 that I rode for 10 years to the Pursuit premium limited which shares most features with this bike. I have had it for about 2 weeks and have been blown away. This bike has met and exceeded every idea I had about what a bike can do. I am not rich, this was probably a once in a lifetime thing for me. I compared point by point this bike and others to more bikes than I can count. I have watched hundreds of videos on competitive options, talked to owners of every other bike I considered against this platform. I test rode at least 6 other bikes. The only bike I didn't get to test and I suspect is it's strongest competitor is the goldwing. Like you said CVO was a lot more money and offered little in return side by side for the price. You really have to have a lot of brand loyalty to HD to choose the CVO. I think they are awesome, and there are reasons other than the spec sheet to choose a bike. I think most of Indians short comings are in the ride command software, and a few fit and finish issues. I think these days it's actually hard to make a wrong decision when it comes to buying a bike. There are so many amazing option from Harleys, Indians, Hondas, BMWs etc that I would be proud to own.
Looks and sounds like you're a few steps ahead...lol
I've been riding a VT750 deluxe and looking to upgrade. Very reliable little bikes but not much comfort for longer trips. I've been able to get it narrowed down to Road King Standard or Challenger...
I just wish they didn't have all the computer stuff on the newer bikes. They are nice, but I can't come to trust the reliability of electronics and software.
@@Sport--willow I don't think the RK has too many gadgets. I added a mustang with backrest to my shadow and it helped immensely
Any issues with heat from the pipes by the legs at stop and go traffic? I quick the fan comes on, once she is hot in a warm day?
@@alp3781 I got my bike about a month ago in the middle of July. The temp has routinely been over 100°f if it's hot the fans come on, and at stops the rear cylinder deactivation kicks in. I can't compare it to an air cooled engine because I don't have one but I don't consider the heat excessive. I feel more heat on the right side but I have been on bikes that are worse. Riding in the heat in stop and go will always suck but to me the bike is on par or better than most liquid cooled bikes I have ridden. I imagine the heat would be even if I removed the catalytic converter
Been riding Indians sense 2017. Springfield and currently ride a 2019 Roadmaster. Best touring bike I’ve owned in my 58 years.
Wow suspension set up in screen !!! Harley needs to address Their suspension issues
I laughed when I saw the HD CVO prices. Then I watched this video. I gotta give it to IMC on this one for diving into the custom factory world and selling at a price more people can afford. Now, there's only 200 of these. Bummer.
I really hope Harley is paying attention to the competition because I for one will definitely be test riding an Indian before I buy my next bike. I have a 2020 Road Glide Special the I love but this is the first bike from Indian that finally caught my eye.
Harley is always paying attention. The Pan American proved that plenty. They're not a billion dollar company for no reason.
Just be sure to look closely at the bike. So much plastic, has a cheap look and feel to it. The salesman even agreed 😳🙄😄
So agree with you. Between the BMW, Goldwing and now Indian, HD needs to stop taking ZZZZZ quell. I think Indian really listen to riders and abuse its engineers to create just the right bike for all.
So why would you ever need another bike? If you got a 2020 road glide why in gods name would you be talking about getting another… 😬 🤦♂️
@@alp3781 Indian bikes are trash and snap at the neck on the frame… 😆 cheap garbage
I test rode several Indians when I was ready to go bigger from my Harley sportster. At the time I was looking for a possible alternative one of the Harley Soft Tails. The Indians I took out were great, but I just couldn't get over the disparity between the 2 company's when it came to customer support. 199 Indian dealers in the US . . . 681 Harley dealers. So I bought a 2018 Harley Deluxe and was very happy. Here in Salt Lake, I've got 3 dealers within 20 miles of my home . . . 1 within 5 miles. In 2020, I also bought a CVO street glide with the 117. When the supply crunch happened to the industry, it sure was nice to have 3 dealers close by that had a combined current inventory that fulfilled all of my needs. On another note, every time I went into the Indian dealership, I had to walk through all of the other vehicles made by Polaris to get to the bikes. When I go into a Harley dealership, it is crystal clear what they're all about and who their customers are.
Incredible Motorcycle. Indian is so far ahead of Harley when it comes to value and technology. Harley CVO'S can't touch this for the money.
The Challenger is a beautiful bike... IMO, it looks better than the road glide. But this Elite is sick!
I saw this one at my local dealer. It's definitely a sick color scheme. Great bike overall.
Top gun on this Challenger Elite! Harley rider since the early 90s and im done with HD. This might be my next bagger! Great video!
From dealer to touring. Unlike Harley where I realized I needed a passenger backrest,Passenger floorboards, and a taller windshield before I even got it home.
The only thing missing is the Victory logo on the tank and instrumentation.
I am one of the lucky ones to get this bike from Gregory Polaris in AR. I'm 65 yrs old and have rode triumphs and Harleys all my life. I bought this bike,loaded it the next day and left for Sturgis. It is the most comfortable ride I've ever set on. Handles so well and it's a Joy to ride.Will out perform most baggers.Drew massive crowds everywhere I went. Cruised it at 85 in the Badlands and no buffering behind shield. Awesome stereo sound. I'm sold on this Indian. Thanks for your story on this bike it Does not disappoint in anyway. Jerry.
I pass a Polaris dealership from time to time. I even went in there once. Golf carts everywhere, some four wheelers and side by sides…but just a handful of bikes. A customer was talking to two guys in the service area for a few and left. The two guys saw me and didn’t say a word. The same thing with everyone else that worked there that were busy moving around golf carts and such. I’ll keep my 2019 road glide special.
Been driving Harley's for 22 years now, so it's time to part with them and say hello to a new brand, man this bike is a beast!
Heated hand grips also I love it great power great ride and looks great. Took it to Sturgis put 2400 miles on it and no issues other than forgetting to put up the kick stand once and it dies when u put it into gear safety device.
I bought a 2021 road glide cvo.. had a road glide limited before that… I give Polaris a fair chance but it never come close to getting my choice… it’s a distant second at best
Yes but you are a harley davidson clothing company fanatic. Personally I think the road glide looks like shit. The fairing looks like an after thought. Cheers 🍺 🍺 🍺 🍺 🍺 🍺 🇳🇿🏴🇬🇧😁
@@stuwhyte479 everyone has an opinion… yours is wrong but hold onto it… maybe one day your wife will let you buy a Harley then you can tell everyone how great they are.. until then we will pretend you just don’t like them
@@stuwhyte479 it’s nice bike maybe even better but without a doubt tried to replicate every styling point from the RG even to the Harley colors… get over yourself and appreciate the HD for what it does for the motorcycle world
@@hanleydaleson954 I respect your opinion. But being the proud owner of a 1988 fxlr that I've had since 1989.. But some times in life you get tired of oranges and apples look like a good alternative.. My apples are a 2020 chieftain darkhorse. Best of the best as far as I'm concerned. Honestly Harry Davidson are slowly but surely getting their complesant take their customers for granted arses kicked.. Goodbye Harry Davidson hello Indian. Cheers 🍺 🍺 🍺 🍺 🍺 🍺 🇳🇿🇬🇧🏴🇬🇧🏴🇬🇧
You have to remember, HD has the benefit of never shutting down thanks to help from Reagan and many others over the decades. Love Reagan, but he should've stayed out of it. HD is like the failed child getting bailed out by daddy many times over. It takes a company (of any large product) many successful years before they ever consider opening a custom shop within their company. Indian succeeded and failed all on its own merits. With zero outside help. Indian Motorcycle Company is still a recent re-opening with Polaris, and they're slowly getting out more detailed paint jobs. The Dark Horse editions have been a success. Now, as seen with this video, they are getting into more custom styles of paint schemes. Your judgemental view of Indian being a distant second is really lopsided. Where would HD be right now if they failed during the Great Depression, or WW2 or post-WW2 without a lucrative War Department contact? What if they had to go thru with their bankruptcy proceedings? Where would Victory be right now if HD had to honestly earn their struggles over the years? I think we'd have three major American MC manufacturers right now instead of two. What if HD was forced to honestly compete with Japanese bikes in the 1980's? Maybe we'd have the Bronx line already, who knows?
This is the sharpest Indian produced; fantastic lines and features. The regular Indian technological features, power and suspension system are usually superior to HD. That stated, I had eyes only for my 21 CVO Road Glide….I paid Much more for it than a comparable Indian but a more practical rider should heavily consider the Indian
@WesPhly did you end up getting it?
Been riding since 1967 ,5 years old on a Honda mini trail50. Rode many brands on street over the years,was a sponsored moto racer in late ‘70s. Love my current 88 and don’t figure I need much more than cams and a fuel pack/ tuner to make it a bit happier for me. It’s also a jockey shift set up that just messes with RUB heads when I can put it sideways, throttle hand on the bars, and go through the gears.
After having 2 Victories, I would never trust Polaris enough to invest my money.
The problem with Victory was lack of marketing and support. Indian does not suffer that problem. Polaris learned from their Victory mistakes.
Not for nothing Victory was not a bad bike but the problem was too few dealerships had techs trained to program them properly when upgrading or performance modding them.
I rode several different models and found them to be quite impressive and comfortable for long distance runs. Again, the lack of support was the ultimate downfall for Victory IMO.
I just bought this bike 3 days ago. Lucky to get my hands on it, they go quick. It's quite the machine.
enjoy your Blessing!
How much was it, out the door???
@@alp3781 Can't remember exactly. Around 45 with all the warranties and extras I got.
The $35,000 sticker price is not really a end price at all. Destination, setup, prep.. blaah blahh, blahh.. i found one on showroom floor and had an hour to decide to buy. Yes, its around $43,000 with all the extra crap. Does HD have same false advertising price ? I have a 20 challenger DH and needed $20,000 to trade for the elite. $20,000 for a different paint job... yikes.
@@ta-tonka1175 If all the elite is is a paint job, why did you bother inquiring what you needed to pay to trade it in?
Nice review. Really nice bike. I'll still keep my Street Glide but it is tempting. From firearms reviews to motorcycle reviews, great job on both!
I can barely breathe .... 🤣
If I was in the market for a new road bike, right now it would only be a Challenger or Pursuit. I'm still going to be lumping my ol' Victory Cross Country along for a few more years...But, I'm anxious to see what Indian comes up with around the Power Plus engine by the time I'm ready...
Polaris has Indian killing it in the world of motorcycles. I went to a Bike Night at a local Gun Range and was impressed by all the Indians and amount of them compared to any others. They all look great and sound so amazing. I would love to own this bike you detailed in your video.
💪😎👍
Bike night at a Gun Range???? Sounds like my kinda crowd right there
Me too 👍🏻
Bike night at the gun range?
Murica!!!
@@Markotto09 They are having another one this Thursday with a band and BBQ. 🤘🤩👍
@@heystarfish100 love it!
Killer bike
Amazing looking bike and incredible tech. I like H-D, but they are no where close on that tech...Price? CVO is much more as you mention. Those options/upgrades need to make their way into a regular production bike.
I would absolutely love to own a Challenger. Period.
I really like that paint scheme, it looks really nice. I could see going across country on that. Price shocks me as well. Thanks for showing.
I'm completely impressed with this bike. The paint color match is sick, I have a 2022 road glide special and I wish my bike had some of this nice features on this bike.Nice video, thanks for sharing.
I own a 17 street glide and love it, I also looked at the chieftain and loved it’s features and was considering either, got a gredeal on a street glide and that’s where I’m at and love it. Personally I think they are both great bikes but I’m more concerned with the equity.
I was considering buying a road glide and went to my credit union yesterday and they offer 3.75% loan on a Harley with 100 % value and 5.9 less than 100% on everything else
At that point I had to ask myself why I would consider anything but a Harley. Hmmm. Then I also took into consideration how many dealers and shops provide service to Harley’s and others. I think for now I’ll stay with Harley. Just my 2 cents…
SOLID......thought the same, for now I'll stick with my RoadGlide.
Dieselsmokef350 well said, it’s important to love the bikes we own, or owe on, if we don’t then we’re payin on something wishin we had something else. And that’s shitty.
I own a 14 dyna street bob, love it. Test road the new road glide limited and loved it. But big decision right, 37k after all the bullshit. Plus they had me at 9% interest( credit is 728).
Went up the road and test road the challenger limited and bought it, I love it! Like look for an excuse to ride it all the time love it. Plus it was 7k cheaper and interest was %4.8. Which is still shit, but that’s where we are at now with the fed raising the hell out of it…
Good day man!
Indian dealerships are about as common as BMW dealerships. Meanwhile Harley Davidson dealerships are everywhere. And for a touring rider, it gives some peace of mind knowing you aren't ever likely to need your bike towed hundreds of miles to get to the nearest dealership.
The Pursuit has the same rear suspension setup.
Take my money, I want !!!
That suspension sold me alone
Man I love my road glide but harley really needs to accept the challenge
I will take this over a CVO any day honestly, so much cooler options and it looks a little better too
I love your channel bud, but to call the front end of the Challenger a “Cyclops” is a “Harley Play”. The Challenger front end is friggin way better looking than the RG! Harley just makes the same old worn out stuff year after year without listening to their customers or investing in their technology. You’ll need to mention to your boys that they need to drop $10k on their new Gezzer Glide to keep up with a stock Challenger! My money goes to the Indian Challenger. I just had my ECU tune done and my rpm limiter is moved to 6500 and the speed limiter is moved to 150. And yes, she will do 150 with only a stage 1 exhaust! Cyclops my ass! The only thing you’ll see is the ass end of a Challenger and you know it!
He meant it looks like a Kotex.. 😂😂
Saw one in person last weekend up in New Hampshire. Its better looking in person. But I still prefer my Chieftain DH.
If Indian could I believe they would try to say they made the Road Glide
A lot of people are complaining that a CVO doesn't justify the extra 13K. CVO's only advantage is the paint job. But when it comes to tech and performance, the Indian beats it hands down.
Love those Indian motorcycles!
They just keep getting better and better 👍
it is added into pursuit models
I love Harley Davidson! However, is Harley does not wake up Indian is going to surpass them and do it hard.
Well, when the Indian motors out there on the street reach 200k on there engine/operation I'll then consider looking at or buying one.
Screams HD CVO. Hey Polaris, try to find your own individuality!
I agree but not a whole lot you can do to motorcycles .
An American Motorcycle Rematch
Indian Motorcycle was founded in 1901, and Harley-Davidson two years later. Both companies built groundbreaking bikes, delivering motorcycles to police forces, racing them on the dirt track, providing a simple alternative to the automobile, and serving in both world wars.
I guess any bike with a fixed fairing looks like a Harley to you .
@@b4real100 Often imitated, never duplicated!😎
My 2009 Polaris Victory Vision required towing twice in the four years I owned it. My Harley on the other hand has never broke down. If it did I'm pretty sure there is a dealer a lot closer than a Polaris Indian dealer.
I pulled the trigger going from a Honda Monkey to a 2023 Indian Challenger. The Indian has waaay more power, and I am no longer being passed by overweight dump trucks. Plus, my girlfriend has a place to sit with no more contortion acts. All in all, a better ride.
I would be happy with the regular Challenger dark horse at this point. Of course I love this bike! I have two Indians already and would be tickled to death to make it 3.
That’s a great bike for the price.
I sat on it and looked at this bike in Sturgis. If I was up for paying that cost or going to a new payment, I would absolutely trade my RG for this Indian Challenger. It is a beautiful bike.
I love Harleys, always will be loyal, but that Jack Daniel's limited edition Indian did a few years back was pretty sweet!
RIP Harley
Lol. My Challenger is more exclusive. Riot Orange Smoke, it's an Icon. They're making less than 10 of these. During normal times, (pre shortages) Icon Indians were limited to 50 or less. But that elite is definitely the best looking one.
Edit: it's actually on par with the 131, it exceeds the 117. Also, the puddle light, all the challengers had that, but they removed it for 22 models. You can buy it though 😆
How do they sound? Love the sound of Harley. Nothing better than pulling on that throttle and hearing the roar of a Harley, especially with upgraded pipes and cams
I would trade my 2017 M8 Harley Davidson for a Indian Challenger period. This bike/bagger is the modern motorcycle. One hole oil fill and oil drain, no pushrods, no lifters, full counter balancing, ride modes, locking saddle bags with remote and full liquid cooling. HD has a modern engine but their playing around holding onto their bottom end cam bikes for some reason while pricing people off their brand.
Goldwing has that parking light..btw if anyone gets a chance take a challenger out for a test ride..its so much fun
I only have an Indian scout 60, but I love it just as much as I would love this Bike. INDIANS ROCK!
Seeing that Indian took the look of Harleys they had time to develop technology. Nice...but I'm still rolling with HD.
great looking bike, 200 is too little. I think they would have sold 500 of them easy. sweet bike with lots of extras.i am a HD guy but I would consider this .
I’m with you they should’ve made a lot more
…..Same
I really like it it's a very nice motorcycle and the price range is way cheaper than the CVO Harleys by 15 to $20,000 cheaper if I had the money I'd buy that Indian in a minute
Bike is ice cold bruh!!!! Only problem with Indian is their dealer network- some cities have some to none and if they have a dealer it’s hours away.
Great video, as always, and that bike is damn good lookin. The shots of it next to a quad and the little bicycle make it look like King Kong
The Indians are a great motorcycle 🏍 i had a victory 20 years ago and that bike has 68k on it still goin,I was kinda bummed when they announced victory was shutting down,but hands down the Indian is a better bike ,but I would hope so its a newer bike and people exspect the best with today's technology theres no reason why the consumer can't get the best product 👍 if not there's enough aftermarket support now to build your own bike better than any factory bike .but I will say this,its not a harley davidson nor is it trying to be totally different ride power and ride comes on different. Its good that manufacturers push each other because that forces them to build a better product for 🇺🇸 us ,I honestly believe everyone should own a Indian and a harley, they are both fantastic products nothing is perfect and the aftermarket world will fill that niche for guys that want above and beyond what a factory engine can do.god bless America 🇺🇸 and the amazing America muscle cruising tour motorcycle 🏍 ✌
All of a sudden I want an Indian Challenger lol
Damn I'm a Harley man but I gotta tip my helmet to this bike.
I have one and I love it, best ride I have ever had
also a harley thing (non led lights) u mean mainly a harley thing. 1 of my victory came all led, other all but headlight
Awesome looking bike. They're way ahead of harley. Wonder why the suspension isn't automatically adjusted for you. My bmw 1250rt has auto suspension but does the preload by itself depending on weight of rider/passenger and is always adjusting. Their older bikes you had to tell the bike what kind of load you had. Figured they'd all be going this way instead. Regardless one nice bike.
Tell how and where they’re ahead, I’m genuinely confused when I read these fanboy comments and they always lack the detail with these baseless claims so I’ll wait bud…
@@humbleservant1294 go ride one. And this is coming from a guy who owns a hd and bmw. No indian in the stable and no "fanboy" here.
@@aarondeere Yeah I didn’t think so…
@@humbleservant1294 no led turn signals, no electric windshield, indian powerplus engine literally eats the m8, fox suspension on indian. No need for upgrade. Yeah hd is rocking it. Smh
@@aarondeere You’re talking specifics and I’m not sure if the Cvo’s come with the specific things you mentioned because what you’re talking about doesn’t come on every model Indian it comes on their premium model cruisers. It’s not something found on every model. You fail to mention how Indians snap at the neck on their shit frames and how they also have a Chevy Malibu radiator stuck behind the front tire.
Ugliest bikes on the market. The only model worth owning is the their Chief. It’s an actual Air cooled vtwin. Radiators don’t belong on Motorcycles period
Awesome bike! This one is gonna be my "dream bike" for sure...Hope we can have an Indian Challenger Elite here in the Philippines, yeah! 🏍🏍🏍
Loved your review!
Such a beautiful bike, I actually had the chance to get one but had to pass on it because of some previous financial decisions. Great looking and performing piece of machinery!! All Challengers have the same engine and all of them have all LED as well.
Tested one in Daytona. And oh my Jesus.
Looks like a Victory XC
I prefer the Road Glide, even the new ST 😉
I did too until I road the Challenger. Better bike all around, no question about it. HD has alot
Of work to do
Absolutely, i do as well. I’ve had many brands of motorcycles over the years and nothing replicates the feeling of going down the road on a Harley. It’s a very special thing.
I just picked up my new st in gray 2 weeks ago. I sport tour more than long distance 500 mile days etc. I love the new st it's the best Harley I've had.
That ST is SOLID! 💪🏾
owned hd`s..bought an 2020 springfield dark horse with a few goodies..never going back.
Best looking Indian to date. Very impressive. Love love love! Would be proud to ride one. 👍🏻🙌🏻👀💯
Harleys are old tech. at a very high price.
Lol… how do you get that? Because it’s not 100% water cooled?… when all of Polaris is not water cooled either… yeah my windshield doesn’t move 😂😂😂.. ride what you like .. Polaris never come close to being my choice it’s an ugly design.. Polaris has terrible engineering
Game Changer!!!! Harley better wake up SOON.
Nice bike...I'll be keeping my RG Limited....!!!
For this Amount of money I really think it needs heat grips seat w cool option. needs to have the option of trunk too … they need options oh and the color option aren’t much like maroon is my favorite color … I’m not a chrome dude why can’t I get all blacked out? Idk
AWESOME !!!!!!
Sweet Ride! Fairing needs some styling tweeks to get it right though. Other than that Beautiful Bike! OH, Needs some chrome also😎 Thanks for the video👍
Excellent review and video! I have a 17 Road Glide Special and would love to find a dealer here in NY that has 1 of those Elite Challengers to trade up! 😉
Nice paint job on that Yeti they call a fairing
The "cream of the crop"!!
Nice bike but the Paint quality / fit & finish of Polaris compared to a Harley CVO is not even in the same league . Farm league to Major League. I won’t even go into resale value .
Yeah I’ve noticed that on some of their bikes too. Not this one but there have been some for sure
Obsoletely beautiful !!!! I do think, the rear lights are too old school. It should have been sexier looking. Between old and new. I think this Infotainment system is better than my 2020 Goldwing's.
So it’s a Road Glide!!
Looks like a knockoff RG but the tech is nice...I still would prefer HD for looks sound and dealerships in my neck of the woods
You must be legally blind ! The Challenger looks nothing like a road glide! And trust me you need all those dealerships Riding a Harley. Great looking bikes though.
Thanks for posting Love all bikes myself do a lot of long long distance riding dealer Network important Indian has none
i wish Indian would come up with a super stripped version of this bike. like a roadking. give me a bike without all the garbage on it. maybe abs and cruise control , oh and i like the lock feature.
I will keep my road glide special
That's anyway .😎
?? 🤔🤔☹ Hmmmm, wonder where 🤔 the styling came from???