WEST HAM TO LOSE KUDUS THIS SUMMER? | RELEASE CLAUSE EXPLAINED | PREMIER LEAGUE FFP IMPACT
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- WEST HAM TO LOSE KUDUS THIS SUMMER? | RELEASE CLAUSE EXPLAINED | PREMIER LEAGUE FFP IMPACT
Are there dark clouds looming over our 2024 summer transfer window business?
With a release clause revealed in Mohammed Kudus' contract, might he also leave West Ham as well as Lucas Paqueta?
On top of that, what do the new Premier League FFP rules mean for West Ham? Are we to be restricted in how much we can spend? Will that affect our ability to rebuild the squad?
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Selling kudus is a big problem....if westham wants to be a top 6 club, they shouldn't be selling a player with this big potential
I don’t think he will be sold… not this summer
With our chairman, we’re never going to keep our best players. The release clause story was probably leaked. I remember reading there was no release clause when we signed Kudus.
Yeah I remember reading the same to be honest mate. So it came as a bit of a surprise to hear that kudus now has a release clause in his contract
We aren't GUARANTEED to have Kudus with us next season Stel. A release clause activation date doesn't prevent anyone coming in with a normal bid. It's then up to WHU whether we accept it or not (hopefully not). But Bowen is the one that concerns me most in terms of desirability for other clubs. I'm thinking that he's become rooted in the Dier family though :)
I agree Phil.. I did say that despite release clauses, clubs can still make bids. But if the bid is not reasonable / acceptable we do not have to entertain it.
You’re the second who has mentioned Bowen. I’ve got a feeling Bowen will want to stay at west ham and become a club legend
@@WESTHAMVOICE That is my hope and belief Stel. He is on the trajectory to become a club legend.
We probably wouldn't be able to sign players like Kudus and Paqueta *without* agreeing a release clause. Players of that calibre have the potential to attract champions league teams and massive salaries if they do well for us.
Yep, that’s a good point.
Good point. If you re a top player rising up the game, like Kudus or Paqueta, you would be daft to agree to a contract that ties you to a non Champions League team for any longer than is necessary. Obviously you are ultimately trying to get a move to a bigger club, a bigger pay day, more acclaim and hopefully some major trophies. The appeal of West Ham is, not that we can provide those things, but we are able to offer a pathway to them.
You are spot on with that comment.Kudus did not sign for Brighton because they didn’t want him to have a release clause and we got him by allowing it.
I heard the release clause for Phillips at Man City is £1.50 ! 😂
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Overpriced!!
Phillips will be given away and playing for govt. minimum wage.
@@grahamhenry7327 😂
If I was a quality player I certainly would not want to play under Moyes with his tactics and gameplay.
But yet all these players we’ve recently signed have been happy to come to West Ham with Moyes in charge
@@WESTHAMVOICE you know my answer …..‘until they realise that he will play them out of position and expect them to defend to protect our frail back line…..why not play Brazil’s number 10 on the left ????’ That’s Moyes for you !
So we sign good players and then lose them. What is the point? We will never break the mould of being a mediocre team.
Not necessarily mate
If the money is reinvested to buy two good players with potential by selling one excellent player then that could be progress
When we bought Alvarez and kudus, we weren’t sure what we were going to get but they both have demonstrated just how good they really are
@@WESTHAMVOICE Then they get good and want to move on. The days of the likes of Brooking, Bonds and Noble don't exist any longer. I usually agree with you Stel but beg to differ on this one.
@@hi-tech55 unless we get regular success alas we will continue to see that pattern happening at a club like West Ham
I would much prefer to keep these players but at least a release clause means we will get decent money for them if/when they move on
Not as long as that Dildo Barrow Boy is at the helm.
I am making a bold prediction:
Paqueta - man City,
Kudus- Liverpool, and
Bowen- Newcastle
This is simple buisness, Brighton have grown their club massively following this principle. No reason why it wouldn't work so long as you have the scouts to find the talent.
This is where Saint Tim gets to proves his real worth.
This is another leak by the board letting the fans know gently that he’s up for sale,,, another money spilling opportunity instead of building our team
Could be …let’s hope not
Let's face it Stel, every player has his price and any of our squad would be justified in wanting to move to a CL team if they got the chance. Obviously any top team would fancy having Kudus in their squad, or Paqueta, Bowen, Alvarez, Emerson etc.
Let's just hope that the next manager is demanding guarantees that we keep the talent before he takes over.
Absolutely agree mate. Of course we’d love for all these players to stay so we can build a successful team. But the reality is that whenever a player comes good at West Ham, other clubs will be circling to sign that player
@@WESTHAMVOICE As is the case with 99% of clubs in the football pyramid. What we have to hope for is that we get a charismatic manager/coach at West Ham who can offer promising players a place in 'a project', allowing good players to shine on their journey to bigger clubs, bigger wages and some trophies.
I think our European run helped secure Kudus and Alvarez, probably Paqueta too, but next season, without European competition, we are going to need someone with 'a clear vision' to lure the next wave of top youngsters to join us. I can't see the combination of Mr Moyes and Mr Sullivan doing that.
@@PWMoze totally agree with you.. European football definitely lured those players in. This summer without European football it could be slightly harder to get calibre players in
Been the West Ham way since I have been a fan - we get great players and then they depart - Tevez, Lampard, Ferdinand, Cole, Di Canio, Payet, Scamacca, now to be Paqueta , Kudus and Alvarez possibly ? list goes on - I could weep
Let’s hope it’s different now where if we have to sell, we get a decent profit in which we can reinvest in players
Hammers chat mentioned that Brighton did not sign Kudus because he insisted on a release clause and we allowed it to get him.At least we double or more,the fee if the clause is activated.If Tim is getting players like Kudus and Alverez cheap then along with the right coach,a better squad playing better football then they will stay.
Brightons loss is definitely our gain
Let’s hope Steidten continues to find decent players for fees that will double or more over time
@@WESTHAMVOICE Fans should not panic..Tim will be the catalyst that gets us the West Ham we’ve been crying out for.
Release clauses are essential in any player’s contract, regardless of who that player is. Wheels need to continually turn and be oiled, all we have to hope for is those wheels don’t come off.
Totally agree, Bill. If only we had similar release clauses in contracts for the likes of Haller and Scamacca
@@WESTHAMVOICE this I think Stel is the unprofessional side of WH as a business, why release clauses, and more importantly a sell on clause, did not get applied to previous sale contracts. Was it because players were brought in towards the end of their careers and sell on’s didn’t apply?
@@billclarke7893 I think you’ve hit the nail on the head mate… we have had our fingers burnt far too many times before and should indeed have had release clauses in player contracts. No one would have complained if we had release clauses in Haller, Anderson and scamaccas xontracts … they were all top quality players when we signed them
As long as the buy-out clauses are at least double what we paid, then I have no problem with that.
As you said, it's about time we started making money with transfers. I suspect this is Steidten's work.
I think Steidten certainly has influence for players we bought last summer onwards
But fair play to whoever at West Ham ensured a release clause was added to Paqueta’s contract before Steidten was at the club
Same old West Ham selling club for the last 30 years ….
These players and their agents use clubs like ours as a stepping stone to the so called big 6 why can’t we see that
The unfortunate reality mate… hence why I think release clauses are a good thing
It's moneyball
Agree mate I like it when you said the vultures gather ! Hopefully we can hold onto these players going forward!
I think it is more likely Bowen goes this summer, rather than Kudus (with Paqueta). This makes perfect business sense. Bowen is 27 and if we get a bid of £75 million for him, then sell. His value will only depreciate from this season onwards.
Really good point Paul. To be honest, I think only Paqueta will leave alongside aguerd - all the other players who might leave would be considered as squad players
You make it sound as if it’s a shopfront buying and selling, but everybody is saying we’ve got a five-year plane two rebuild going on
@peterjones2903 No, not at all, its the Steidten Modal. Sell at the most optimum and then reinvest. All this Danny Dyer business shrouds the fact that Bowen isn't a WH fan and is looking for Champions League. Cash in now and protect the investment.
Please tell me all the noise about this five year rebuild ,,with all the players and the training ground with building permission for dwellings at Rush Green are up for sale
I think we discussed this before… it’s highly likely that the Chadwell Heath and rush green sites will be sold off
Hey stel if you believe the article on the sky scores app paqueta has all ready agreed personal terms with man city apparently city contacted the player directly and he agreed a multi year contract and I know that there was another story on the sky scores app saying that paqueta was happy at west ham I got a feeling that Lucas paqueta will not be a west ham player next season that's the thing about west ham we bring great players to the club but we cant hold on to them for as long as we want to
I don’t believe the rumour mate. There’s no way that Paqueta can agree to anything without the clubs consent. There’s no way of knowing if Man City even still value him at £85m and without that, they cannot approach the player or his agents.
Then there is still the issue of the betting investigation which could still affect any Paqueta transfer this summer.
Having said that, I do actually think Paqueta will leave this summer but it might not even be to Man City… PSG would be the only other club who could afford his £85m release clause
I think with the state of play regarding FFP/PSR means we are more likely to keep players with high release clauses.
Good point… it’s one way of stopping other teams from buying our better players if they can’t afford the valuation because of FFP
Is there a release clause for Moyes??
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I don't think we will get 85 million for Pacman two reasons 1 big drop in form and attitude. 2 Still has betting scandal not resolved
I agree to be honest … I don’t think we will get that much for him either
Club will have player names on with velcro.
Lol you have dragons den pitch there 😂
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Stupid question. If someone meets the release clause, can they refuse to go
Not a stupid question mate. Yes, the player doesn’t have to accept it
@@WESTHAMVOICE 👍
Remember Orasteain is an Arsenal fan at hart and he taps player up fir them
Good point Daniella
@@WESTHAMVOICE he was the one that said Arsenal could get Rice for £75 M last summer
would kudus have signed if the release clause had not been put in there?
Good question and not sure to be honest
He wouldn't,cos he refused to sign for Brighton cos they won't put release clause in there
This is what happens with the Moyes effect, how many more players have to leave before the clown owner see's Noyes is now doing more harm than good. Why would players want to play in this style anymore, especially now we are winning nothing. Thank you Moyes but goodbye.
This wasn’t really about Moyes to be honest mate. It’s more about whether kudus really has a release clause - which we have yet to get real clarity on. It’s also about whether release clauses are a good thing. I would suspect that whoever is in charge of the team at West Ham, we will still have similar issues with release clauses in contracts ..
Neither are good at doing basic passing. Everything has to be flash. That's ok but if you keep doing it, opponents expect and it and double up on them. They need to know when to show off & when to just do an accurate pass. If they they showed all the missed shots and miss passes & disposessions they wouldnt be worth half the dow.
Good point. I think kudus is learning. First season in the premier league he will have worked it out and adapt for next season.
As for Paqueta, can Moyes or any other manager get him to change his way? Will be interesting to see what pep does with him IF he goes to Man City next season
@@WESTHAMVOICE I think paquetta has really messed up our chances of getting into Europe. We waited patiently for him to come good in the prem & now he dosent give a toss about our success. Eaten bread is soon forgotten.
@@Hammers.grandad yeah I wouldn’t disagree with that. His unnecessary yellow card in the first left against Leverkusen wasn’t great
Having said that, we seemed to play better without him
stel here we go again the merry go round 4 the next 3 months get t hese 3 games over and it all start again good 4 the chats shows free spice rum all around hope all well wake me up in time 4 the new season
At this rate mate it’ll be a bottle of spiced rum every day 😂😂
If unfortunately Moyes stays, it wants to be in BLOCK CAPITALS, in indelible ink on his contract, that that he is nowhere near any form of transfer dealings. The losses incurred in his faili ngs amount to about three top players.
I do agree Nick. It’s funny how a few years ago Moyes talked about spending the clubs money as if it was his own, yet, he has allowed decent players to leave for very little monetary return
Sorry But we spent Rices money on Alvarez,Kudus . We sold players for loses. Do you think we will be better with selling our best players and getting better players in . I doubt it. Especially if Moyes is still in charge
Ironically Moyes has proven that we can reinvest our money on good players
Players such as Areola, Paqueta, Bowen, aguerd (although I don’t think he’s lived up to his reputation) we’re all signed under Moyes and before Steidten arrived
But Steidten’s influence would be to ensure we no longer lose money on players such as Anderson, Haller, Scamacca
@@WESTHAMVOICE Can't think of a player Moyes sold and made a profit.
@@user-gw8fg7lz4q Rice but other than that, no one else
@@WESTHAMVOICE I should of said bought and sold
@@WESTHAMVOICE I should of said bought and sold
The real issue is though we had 2 top 7 finishs , won a trophy been it the top half all season and been in Europe for 3 back to back years, everyone thinks we a small relegation club. We're Brighton and Villa do it for one year and there the bees knees. Are is that there big 6 club are really sceard we one date get our act together and kick one or two of them.off they high chair
You’re right daniella … if a team like Brighton achieve this everyone is praising them
Our status now means we can attract better players to the club
@@WESTHAMVOICE I'am with. You I don't see Kudus or Alvarez leaving and I think Paqueta is only 50/50 of that
What is the point of bringing in these players. We might as well play with 11 youngsters.
So long as the money keeps getting reinvested to improve the squad then I see the logic.
If the money is squandered then I’d agree with you
@@WESTHAMVOICE and to do that we need new owners. We can't keep buying these players for big money and sell them for peanuts
@@garyrutter3163 I think that we’re finally seeing a different model in our transfer business mate, hence the release clauses added into contracts
@@WESTHAMVOICE I hope so.
We will NEVER be anything but a feeder club
As hard as that pill would be to swallow, it is possible that this is what we will become