Through-hull replacement and other fun things, part one
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- I normally schedule my annual haulout for the month of September, but a failing through-hull fitting--even though successfully repaired--persisted as a source of anxiety and I wanted to get it replaced sooner than later. So the first task was to figure out how to remove the old through-hull. After consulting fellow cruisers and the experts, I concluded the best method was to cut the outer mushroom flange with an oscillating tool, break off the segments with a hammer and big flathead screwdriver, and then drive the through-hull into the boat. Of course the through-hull was likely held in with 3M 5200, a very powerful adhesive ...
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Great sequence of a typical experience I have when a multitude of things goes wrong! Brush lands in the dirt. Brush broken. Drill bit breaks trying to fix brush. Meanwhile paint is drying and the day is getting hotter. Now you have a project on top of another project on top of another project. I speak lots of French during projects such as these!! LOL.
I quartered the mushroom with a grinder and knocked them off with a hammer, then banged out the threads with a socket wrench/extension just smaller than the hole. It’s some hard work!
Your way sure is a lot cleaner than what I did :)
I think it's a hard job no matter which method you choose, if the fitting has been in for a while and is held in with 5200
A big flat head screwdriver makes a fine chisel. A wood chisel, makes a fine screwdriver...sometimes. Whatever it takes to get the darn thing out.
You are the greatest sailor out there....
You need that wonderful universal tool, the flat L shaped pry bar. It's really handy in tight places. Have a good one.
Now I like a log puller
Really enjoying your channel. S/V Brick House suggested checking out your channel. I met them in Trinadad back about 9 years ago. My first sailboat was kept at Deltaville, VA. Before sailing south. Sold my last sailboat & living on farm now. Wanting another boat but smaller & no engine. That is why I am drawn to your channel. Thanks for sharing your journey. Fair winds : )
Thanks for stopping by, have fun looking for a new boat!
Great work Cap'n! Have to admit, brought out the sadist in me watching you wrangle with that through hull😁😉!! Hallelujah indeed! 👍👍
Ahh fun, through hulls, our main 2-1/2" dump port had to be changed out when I surveyed it and found it loose. Old brass, just applied some heat and inserted square stock pieces and sprwader wedge against flange ears and then after a few tries and som french dressing vocabulary and one of us on each end with 16" pipe wrenches voila we unthreaded it and the pipe from flange.. A good cleaning. Lubrication and it was back in.. Od course with 5200, because until next time I can sleep at night knowing the 5200 will hold.. And si ce it was original i stall from 1973, not half bad.. About a thousand dollar valve if we had to replace it.. But just a maint service and back in action. Love your dedication and patience Kevin.. Thanks foe sharing.. Hope to see you out there some time . maybe you might see uss pass by your port side horizon heading south soon.. Fair skies and happy sailing..
French dressing vocabulary, ha! Safe passage south ...
F-bomb fit well in that situation. Good to see that repair. I’m sure you’ll sleep better at night! She looks great out of the water. Love that full keel.
It seems like an expansion reamer would work well to shave out the old existing part. You'd need to be carefully and go small increments per turn. Soak in acetone and rinse the reader with water when done.
Had to chuckle at the “French”. Boat work brings out my French at its most fluent.
Well, I don’t speak French but I suspect your comment about working in confined quarters was appropriate and well deserved.
likewise, I learned that phrase in high school...but, it wasn't in my french class. appropriately, I think my shop teacher taught me that bit of linguistics...ah, the halcyon days of youth....
A far quicker way to change through holes is with a hole saw. Cut a dowel or flat batten and hammer into the orifice. Pick a size of hole cutter that will cut into the external flange at the body flange joint. The dowel centers the pilot drill as you cut. When you are through the flange thickness of brass, use a blunt tool (think old chisel with rounded corners) to pry the flange off. With a bit of practise, it's about a 5 minute job to get the through hull cut and out.
That sounds like a good way to remove composite throughs. Cutting through an inch of bronze seems like it would take a while.
Just did this job on my boat. I might add, to avoid the bendy chisel part which could damage some fiberglass through prying, just use a Dremel with a cutting disc in the center of the flange to cut the flange where it meets the seacock threads. Do this cut from outside the boat, so the flange will eventually just pop off. As to the bolts, just drive them out from the inside, nothing holds them but some 5200 outside. Hope this makes sense!
Hadn't thought of trying to cut around in a circle, though that sounds like it involves more skill. It looks to me like the bolts are embedded in the wooden backing plate, but perhaps they go into the hull.
@@howtosailoceans1423 You"re right about the bolts, I had no wooden plate, mine were just recessed into the hull.
making them easy to pop out. Amazing how through hulls can be installed in different ways.
Seems like someone told me that 5200 was invented to hold the tiles on the space shuttle.Its kinda permanent.Good video!!
You have the patience of Job!
Once again, good stuff. I really like the ambiance in your videos. I've used a step drill bits to remove old thru-hull fittings, they seem to work well. It takes just a couple of minutes to get rid of a flange of a 1" - 1 1/4" fitting.
Wow you are patient. I would have sworn like a sailor.If 2 things break the same day...done for the day. I say...new day tomorrow. Wow. Hard worker
I'm sorry to admit this Kevin, but I was quite amused by watching you struggle with the through-hull fitting. I only laughed because it brought back memories of my own exploits "back in the day." Congratulations! You have now been indoctrinated and inducted into the exclusive club of through-hull replacement veterans! Hats off to you!
Hehehe - "excuse the french"... first time i've heard you swear in situations i'd be cursing.... like a sailor ..... xD
Hallelujah !! Another great video!!
Love the French and wow, great work in keeping the language confined to a fitting located under a bunk..... love the notifications when they pop up, great work.
Looks like your getting it out without any damage to the hull. That's super good.
Great soundtrack Dire Straits!
So satisfying to watch someone with as much patience as I attack a problem. LOL.
Nice job my friend!!
Thanks for the example Kevin. I've got to do mine as well this year. As mine are only 11 years old, they should be about 1/2 as difficult to remove. :-)
You will probably still be swearing in French ha ha ..
Thanks for this interesting episode
Another great video.. I like how you do all your own maintenance and upkeep on Ruth..
Great one, even though its a bit short.
Thanks M8! I prefer to err on the short side, like playing at an open mic, never play for too long ..
Glad to see this job getting done!! french said in the boat yard stays in the boat yard.
Ok that was the mandatory pain. Now comes the pleasure of fitting a nice shiny new one!
Patience and perseverance conquers all. Check out the little flat bar that bee keepers use, it’s one of the handiest things in my tool box.
Great video and works !
Hallelujah! s/v ...Waves
The most casual paint job I' be ever seen! Back and forth, up and down ... no rolling, tipping etc? What grit for your prep sanding? Your boat always looks great, next haul out do a focus on your technique. Been up the Potomac by the way?
Generally: first coat, 150 grit; then 220 for the second; 320 for the third. Only been to the mouth of the Potomac, up the St. Mary's river. I may stop there again on my way south to check in on a fellow engineless sailor.
@@howtosailoceans1423 oh yeah, no engine ... twisty river. Still though, Arlington, Washington bassin with free anchorage. Thanks for the paint advice, deck and doghouse this fall ... I'll try brush alone and Petite.
Man that felt good!
Great boat - great sailor - I hope I will get there . Your boat reminds me of a Harley Knucklehead :) Simple beauty
Jerry beat me to it! Yep, a flat bar is a "must have " . Welcome back to the Chessy
A good video. 'Sailing Britaly' shows a great way to remove skin fittings. I followed the method with mine and it worked a treat
Just finished replacing 6 on my boat an can appreciate the cursing 😁. I can recommend an angle grinder to remove the mushroom and Multisolve to soften and dissolve the sealant, gleaned from another CZcams channel "Sailing Britaly". Worked a treat for me. Thanks for uploading.
Multisolve... did not know such a thing existed!
Special words always work best in these situations hehe. Thumbed
Good tunes in the background. 👍
Ahhh..5200, the devils glue.great video
kudos to you for the excellent videos
a small segment on your "old girls" bell perhaps?
I would very much like to hear its ring!
That came with the boat, and it does have "Ruth Avery" faintly inscribed on it--on reason I kept the name. It can ring quite loud.
I love it, French and all.
Legend... love the vids as they are real life.
"Beyond All Seas Is The Boatyard"
Tom Waite
That feeling when it gives loose with a mighty bang. >:)
Have you considered just glassing it over so you don't even have a thu-hull? Just put a jerry can for the sink to drain into and empty it from time to time?
Only one F word....I would be Ding every other word along with all the rest of the expletives!! A sledge hammer might have appeared too causing damage!!
Good vid - We speak the same French only I would be using a whole lot more of it. C'est la vie
My god man. Take the hose off the thru hull valve before attempting to remove. You would have saved yourself so many headaches. It was driving me mad! And next time, it there is a time, use bigger prybars instead of screwdrivers. Uhggg.
Yeah, removing the hose may have made it a little easier, but then it did give me something else to grab on to.
Valuable lesson! I would of used all the swear words
Why is there a tap in the bottom of the boat that let's the ocean come in? It seems an odd choice.
get a pry bar it will come in handy
That job requires a long list of short words to complete!
A lot of four letter ones ...
@@howtosailoceans1423 bang, push, pull, turn, grab, flip, chip....just to name a few! :-)
@@just-dl LOL
I suspect many people who have to work in tight spaces could benefit from associating with you on a regular basis. 🙋♂️
"Hallelujah.......". That's just what I said before the music played. LOL
💪😇👍
Why did you have to take out the entire throughhull assembly? Wouldn’t it have been enough to replace the elbow?
No, the tapered plug was badly pitted, time to replace the entire thing.
I will be in deltaville next June to haul boat. What yard are you in? Looks like friendly to dyi
Chesapeak Boat Works. There's also the Deltaville Boatyard, both are DIY.
ever thought about getting a diesel? And do the great loop or something?
No, I prefer to keep her pure. Besides, I don't have room for a diesel.
No, I prefer to keep her pure. Besides, I don't have room for a diesel.
turn hammer 90 degrees when bad access
I'm trying to imagine that ...
Did you consider using a " Thru Hull Installation Step Wrench, 1/2" to 1-1/2" , not to be confused with a "Groco Thru-Hull Installation Tool "
for removal and installing new through hulls
Goggle will help source vendors!, typically $60
I looked at one of the those, but the advert said not to be used for removing old through-hulls, but perhaps I was looking at the latter. I'll revisit when it comes time to remove the other through-hulls.
@@howtosailoceans1423
Yes there is a difference and the first item
" Thru Hull Installation Step Wrench, 1/2" to 1-1/2"
is a removal wrench as distinct from a assistant to install a through hull, which is the latter item you referenced.
😊 After all these years I had no idea I was speaking French… I speak a lot of French 😊
On the basis that ones gone should you not change all of them, my tubes of j b came in the post today whoop whoop!
😯! You said a French!
😜 Apparently I speak fluent French… Or at least I know the one word you used 😜
So what you're saying is, the sailing life is not all romance, fun, yo-ho-ho, and a bottle of rum? ;)
Not if you own the boat, at least ...
Not sure. I thought your boat is wooden? Is it fiberglass? Awesome the music at the end. ☺
Good question, I was wondering the same thing.
Brian Stevens, I bet it's wood, covered on outside with fiberglass.
@@crismoore6811 Must be, why else would he paint it every year?
Brian Stevens. Well a lot of boaters pull their boats out 1x a year. The boat gets too slow unless it's bottom is clean. And paint wears off. Hurricane season a good time to redo bottom. They coming out with various new paints to make things better.
@@crismoore6811 Yeah. I can totally see cleaning the bottom, but he also painted topside.
Precision engineering 🤣🤣🤣
So THAT'S why everyone HATES 5200,.. unless they don't think about it at all because it's working perfectly.
..kind of a "no gratitude for YOU" situation from the 5200's perspective, isn't it?
Anyway, nice MacGyver work on your part,.. and, uh, WHO breaks a PAINT BRUSH!? Only guys named Kev, apparently, 'though I've still got that "occurrence" to look forward to, I suppose (as I'm a Kev too).
:) Aloha y'old seadog, you! (ʻīlioʻaukai = Sea Dog [ʻīlio = dog, ʻau = swim(mer), kai = sea]) Mahalo!
Yes, 5200 is great except when you want to remove it ... it seems there may be a faulty paint brush out there with your name one it--my number already came up, ha ha
@@howtosailoceans1423
Do they make 5200 out of processed barnacle butts?
I'll never understand why people use 5200 for through hulls. Misguided.
It is advertised as an underwater sealant.
That's not French. As I heard it, it is Kings Own Language and acronym for the license of said King... Fornication Under Consent of the King... Taxes payable to the Shire Reef. LMAO