The Role of Process with Parts in DID/OSDD part two
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- čas přidán 10. 11. 2023
- In this video from The CTAD Clinic, Dr Mike Lloyd (Clinic Director) continues looking at what processing is in trauma therapy. In this part two video, Mike focues more on process with parts/alters within Other Specified Dissociative Disorder (OSDD) or Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) systems. This is a technique recommended within therapy settings. #otherspecifieddissociativedisorder #osdd #dissociativeidentitydisorder #did #therapy
Brilliant! Your whole matter of fact demeanor, your clarity, simplifying esoteric concepts, is an enormous gift to the community of providers and sufferers of complex trauma. Bravo! Very heart-warming and inspiring.
Wow, thank you!
Also, we need to think about the impact of all this on the body. For example, I might have an instantaneous physical response, such as abdominal cramping or a sudden headache or my head starts to buzz. At times I’ve even lost my sense of hearing and to some extent my sense of sight. At other times, the emotions that some part of the system is feeling can lead to actual physical paralysis or clumsiness. So the clumsiness might not come first, but after. For me, there is almost always a physical response of some kind. Quite often, the body’s response to the internal emotional upheaval is fatigue. We have to lie down… or fall over. That’s pretty common for us. I hope these comments help the conversation.
That sounds a lot like how our FND presents!
Thank you so much for these videos!!! It’s so hard to find good and compassionate professional info on DID/OSDD! Thank you for sharing your expertise!!!
You are so welcome!
Please do more videos on practicing stabilization skills in therapy with the intention to use it in daily life. My opinion is that both adults w/DID and their therapists BOTH don't do enough practice so that these strategies can be used effectively. Everyone knows they will be triggered during everyday events. Being able to return to a regulated state quickly could make the difference between self-harming or amnestic switching. Please explain why practice is a valuable part of more therapy hours than is evident on the surface.
Amazing follow up from part one. Thank you for sharing so much information.
This stuff is scary to hear.
We have a part who for years all of us, including the part herself, thought she functioned completely separately from feelings. Only this year has the part herself, and another part who is our inner communicator, started realising how this part is and functions is actually a reaction to fear, is a way of trying to make things safe, and this part is having extremely difficult time starting to know this. As are we all, coz it’s showing how many of each of our ways is because of scared. Massive, massive scared. And as we don’t have a therapist at present, we can’t and don’t want to go further into the rest of that.
Anyway, hearing this helps it not feel so weird. And also not feel so bad for it taking so long and constantly being labelled “complicated”. We are complicated. Not just because every human being is, but also because this is complex, it does have layers (even once you think there’s no more onion, there’s still another bit to peel), and that doesn’t make us stupid for not being “fixed/better/more in control/insert whatever you want this to look like”.
To be able to reflect on these mechanisms in hindsight is already a step in the right direction because it means that certain levels of amnesia have decreased or that there is enough cognetive energy available to register these dynamics in the moment and reflect on it afterwards.
Very helpful video thanks. Timing was good as I've been struggling all day with pain and trying to ignore it! You've explained how that's not very helpful,so I'll try to dialogue with the parts feeling the pain...
Emotions. Thats where i notice things for us.
Often the case, hope it’s ok for you.
@@thectadclinicthats why we are in therapy lol. And getting some medical stuff handled. But its helpful seeing it here too
Can you make a video on: "Do the parts need to integrate to heal from DID? Or need one to learn to live with their parts?" Thanks for the good work 🌷
From my experience and as a therapist it’s a combination of what your system wants-forcing gets no where and if the alters/parts are stabilized they all work to support the system and distress is greatly reduced and are often no longer an issue on a day to day basis.
Thank you, this was brilliant!
You're very welcome!
A frightened part listened to this and perhaps we can have these different ground values for a debate for a while. Another part has to stop destroying memories before we start telling the story/content of past events. And it is very skilled in that...
Four months later..we might have had some progress in the process... the "memorydestroyer" more relaxed, and the frightened one has allowed me to talk to our therapist. That was kind of one part giving voice to another one with whom I disagree.. but it was about trauma and I knew nothing about it. Hopefully that will be more clear in the future... confusing? Yes, and I understand, at least, why the frightened one has been so scared...
Again thank you for a great video. I recognize a lot from my therapy but by your videos I get the concepts and a perspective on what goes on or has been going on. I have spend a lot of thoughts trying to understand what went on inside..
Many thanks Dr Mike for another brilliant video, I recognise a lot of this from my sessions, this is incredibly reassuring for me.
You're very welcome
This is so important. Thank you. Could you please include in a video the process that a therapist should be doing to help us process? Stuck in a situation in therapy and wanting to move forward.
Thank you, hopefully you can both find a way forward!
Would you be able to do a video about reenactments in therapy? Like what a therapist needs even more to do to prevent retraumitizations from this when working with dissociative clients? This is a huge struggle for us, esp bc most therapists get defensive. I read a book titled treating adult survivors of emotional abuse and neglect. It listed all the things I've noticed with therapists, and it mentioned that therapists can pick up emotions stronger from dissociated clients, so there's more potential for reenactments. That's all that happens when we go to therapy. It's exhausting. Esp when the therapist isn't aware and lashes out or responds in another harmful way.
When the Defense Is Death: What can we do when we have parts who encapsulate the Deathwish? In childhood , this made sense as a protection against Again. This also makes sense now because the present circumstances are neither safe nor viable. We are literally dealing with survival once again. More trauma, more discard. More pain. It is truly too much. Death keeps coming up as more than just an option. It seems like the only way out of the pain. What can we do as a system to relieve this part’s burden?
I really really feel u. 😢 Stuck in this deathwish too, that makes progress impossible
When things get like that for us it is because we have not allowed ourselves or have been unable to identify our needs for too long. We get burnt out and full of hopelessness that things can change. Recently I watched a podcast and the therapist on it said shame is arresting, but self compassion is motivating. When the hopelessness and ideation comes, it's like an internal weather report that we need to attend to our needs with compassion. At first it felt unbareable, but doing something at night before bed, just to make morning us feel better changed us. Then soon we were thinking about needs more often and now those longing for non existance feelings are quieted.
don’t have words good enough for a response - but will say, felt the bigness of this post. Hearing you.
How do you convince an angry alter, one who carries a traumatic memory, that it wasn't your fault. And certainly not their fault. It was just a terrible thing that happened?
Does it matter which part does the processing? Like wether an ANP or EP does it? And is it okay to switch while doing it or should the same part do it every session?
It all depends on the individual circumstances, which can vary between parts!
Would you say IFS therapy is good for understanding the defensive system or is another therapy better?
clearly this video completely overwhelmed this system!! so many traumas
so much input
and
different responses..
it feels like too much so often and especially rn.
i threw up half way through (sorry) ..
That picture on the wall is traumatising.
I thought the same thing
you talk a little too fast
there’s a setting to slow it down to suit your speed preference