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Slava means glory in all of the Slavic languages, it has nothing to do with slavery.
You are absolutely correct. What she was talking about is that the word 'slave' is derived from 'slav', so the other way around.
@@MrPauliCZ Yeah.. and Germs from Germans .. Cattle from Scotts (Scott in Russian means cattle) This can go both ways. Ohh and Turkeys are from Turks.. because, why not.
@@dimonddust4318 that's adorable... which is obviously from 'a door'... because, why not
@@MrPauliCZ Yeah..why not. It all works ;)
@@dimonddust4318 "slave" comes from Medieval Latin "sclavus" ("slave"), which itself comes from Late Latin "Sclavus" ("Slav"). She IS correct.
And the word "turkey" DOES come from "Turks". It is the old name of the guinea fowl, which was imported into Europe through Turkey. The name ended up being used for the North American turkey as well because of the resemblance.
Yes, folk etymologies are a thing, two words aren't necessarily related just because they look similar, but at the same time, just because it looks like folk etymology doesn't mean it is.
As a polish man, we definitely still have some pre-Christian traditions like "śmigus dyngus" which was incorporated into the Easter Monday or drowning (or burning) an effigy of a goddess of death Marzanna (Mora) on the first day of Spring as she was also a goddess of winter. Also, I'm disappointed that that guy is supposed to be a Slav, but used cirillic wrong.
"Cyrillic wrongly"-(!)
@@richardrichards9180 shut up u english joke
We have much more pagan traditions. Painted Easter eggs. All traditional Christmas Eve dishes originate from pagan magic, as well as the empty plate. The tradition of carol singers just died in last decades, but it also had prechristian origin. The way we celebrate All Souls' Day.
We can assume that every tradition that we consider our local Slavic tradition is prechristian.
Wanted to comment something similar but as i see this here, there is no need. Slovakia upholds traditions altho its more of an excuse to get drunk. Definetly christian in beliefs, we just uphold some traditions....shame that more isnt preserved.
Morana,among Serbs.
This whole theory that word slav came from slave is totally untrue. Its just similarity . In ancient Rome, romans used word "servus" for slaves not "slaves" . Word "slav" came fom slavic "slava" which means glory or "słowo" which mean word.
I found a treaty from Umyyad chaliphate, where they have Like whole chapter about slavs. How valuable they Are as "re-educated" slaves. And how you deploy them properly. The main reason for them,to be on high demand is their archery style.
And there is even a warning that dishonest traders (ginny i never thought that slavers were honest) Are calling any slave Slavic in order to get higher Price. The treaty is not in english though.
Yet IT seems to me, that because of slavs being on such high demand, the word slave is derivation of the name of our nation, And not vice versa as is often suggested.
No slave does come from slavs. Many people deny that. The slavs are the longest enslaved race in the history of the world also. You got ur history wrong cuz ur just racist against us slavs just like most of the world. Many slavs refuse to admit this truth themselves but once u come2terms w. It being a fact it's no longer such a crazy idea.
It's other way around. Slave came from word Slav as Slavs were in certain period of time most popular slaves in Arabic salve trade.
The word "Slave" does not come from Slav, it's a very common misconception. The Slavic ethnonym comes from the word "Slovo" which means word or letter, or possibly Slava, which means glory.
Oh boy here we go again. Someone who doesn't understand basic English sentence structure.
NO ONE is say that the word SLAV means, or comes from "Slave".
They're saying that THE ENGLISH word; "Slave" comes from "Slav". Which is true
Slavic mythologie is by far the darkest and creepiest of them all. Scandinavian, Greek etc seem even ridiculous at times while Slavs went real dark real fast. Perfect mainstream examples are The Witcher video games and tv show based mostly on Slavic mythology, some other video games, even music tends to be ridiculously dark and ominous. To this day a good chunk of Slavic people are the most pagan you could probably find in Europe, sadly most without even knowing it, a lot of Christian traditions and customs are actually old Slavic ones just repacked into a different look, which was helpful when trying to convert people. Harry Potter is nice but the selection of vile, magical creatures in Slavic mythology is on the whole new level, most original too, for example, Vampire is an original Serbian word and the homeland of Vampires are in the Balkans, Serbia/Romania, and in the more secluded villages people still believe in them, fairies, the whole shenanigans, to a point where in the medieval Serbia, Tzar had to issue a law it is FORBIDDEN to dig up graves and stake deceased hearts with it. Can't speak for east, did not travel as much there, but as I am of Scandi/Serbian ancestry, I traveled the south a lot and you can still find Slavic totems, gods and goddesses in the mountains, tho, as locals explained, most of those were built recently (past 50 years to now) by some peasants or even some of the more influential people, saw some in Poland too, and even Germany, old Slavic town of Arkona was in Germany, still got some leftovers, it's fun and at times terrifying stuff. Also, heard a myth in the Balkans, if someone dared to invade Slavic territories, Slavic warriors would use every single mean available to them and which might have considered cowardly by some other, they'd camouflage in the familiar ground, use poisons on arrows and swords, would use the terrain and retreat and lure which was considered shameful by most other people and the worst of all, when defeating their enemies, they'd gather the captured soldiers, roast and eat some of them, blind most of them and leave a couple to lead the survivors home who would then tell what happened to them, most did not try to return after such experiences.
Probably to late to this party beauty is everywhere- as a Slavic I invite you must live with fear and doubt never give your soul to the service of darkness this is a Slavic way of being but keep searching for many Slovania peoples enjoy a comfortable existence with past generations sacred relation to become Christian by our lord Ježiš Kristus and in also orthodox faith something that we all share is a common struggle of being human . while standing up to empires/ colonial oppression we rather share to free to enjoy a cup of tea with honey with our community Rodina we then define as specific identity but always ground towards sacred rituals that celebrate life this is our way
Here some present things some do but little modern in some other parts we call home land czcams.com/video/Ie4yYJ98es4/video.html
No it's not
15:45 Yes... your Christmas tree is an example of a pagan tradition that got adopted into Christianity. Granted it's a Germanic thing in that case but generally speaking there is more paganism in European christian holiday tradition than there are actual Christianity.
Here in Serbia we had before celebrations to pagan gods. Families took them as their protectors. But when Christianity was adopted people continued with some of the traditions, but with Christian execution.
Christian saints, for one example, were taken instead of gods and the celebration is more in line with Christianity.
That is still actual here in Serbia. Families have their own Patron Saint which they celebrate on specific days and people socialize. Hosts make feasts and family and friends come. And then someone else hosts on their Patron Saint, so on and so forth.
Can't believe that a history of 'Slavs' as an ethnic group didn't even mention the Slavic countries that were a part of the Ottoman Empire for centuries.
i wouldn`t say that this video was about history
history was mentioned only when it was useful for discussing mythology
This video didn't go beyond 1000AD.. Ottomans domination of the Balkans doesnt' really kick off until late 1300s into 1400s and 1500 conquests
And? It didn't have any significant impact on Slavic genetics
Yes! You came through again! Loving your commitment to learning! 👍🏻
Oh. Shame it didn't have more history. Ah well. Next time.
Really enjoyed this video. After history, I find mythology extremely interesting, which is why I am a big Tolkien fan as well. One thing that intrigues me most is the many similarities between the myths of different people groups. Example: nearly every culture has a flood myth. Another is the idea of the Tree of Life. It’s all very fascinating. The reality is, understanding a people’s collective mythology is as important to understanding them as is their history. In fact, one could argue it is even more important.
Try Max Adam's book,the King in the North ,Tolkein based Aragorn on saint Oswald, best wishes from the wirral ,last known whereabouts of sir Gawain and the green knight...E
@@eamonnclabby7067 and radagast on western Slavic god radogost or the Slavic medieval stronghold placed in todays eastern germany close to Berlin. Cuz the name is cleary slavic. Same with boromir. Based on Slavic names
Glad that you enjoyed the video. Of course there was little mistakes here and there but I generally wanted to introduce you to the very term of who slavs are, from where they are and what was their believes before christianity.
As of the Slavic traditions in the modern society, we still celebrate Maslenitsa in Russia, Ukraine and Belarus. Maybe they have it in the other Slavic countries too, but I'm not sure. You should look into the celebration of Maslenitsa, it's pretty cool!
Dude , go to Serbia ;)
They still use the old slavic calendar
(Year 2022 = 7530)
@@puppetmasternostringsonme8293 it`s cool
@@puppetmasternostringsonme8293 There's nothing as "Slavic old calendar". Hell, Slavs did not even exist 7500 years ago - they were still part of the Proto-Indo-European tribes. So what are you on about?
Pretty chaotic video, not gonna lie the one you reacted to about Poland wasn’t the best either. Maybe ask people about good videos on the topic you want to react to, I’m sure the viewers will give you good recommendations.
What good video on Slavs in English do you know? Lets exchange
I searched a lot on YT and most "slavic" related videos are not very good and often misinformative.
Here is what I found well-made, about my nation and his country and states: czcams.com/video/pJmSl148p_I/video.html
Alongside this: czcams.com/video/aN73N9EjoM4/video.html those are only English-language videos I can honestly recommend about Poland.
And here is some honest, but little exagerrated documentary about modern Poland czcams.com/video/mNg02F6FY_0/video.html
PS. Here is some good video related to main topic of SoGal channel - military history: czcams.com/video/ZEJak1DDm6k/video.html
@@krakendragonslayer1909 Animated History of Poland parts 1-3 is very good though
Tracians,Illyrians,Dardanians are Slavs tribes
Tracians you hear from Troy
The Romans captured many Germanic peoples as they attacked Rome from across the Danube. The Slavs were known to the Romans as the Veneti, who inhabited the north eastern reaches of Italy and parts of the Balkans. The term ‘Slav’ to mean slave was not coined by the Romans per se as their Latin word for slave was ‘servus’ (pronounced ‘se-wuss’) where we derive the modern term servant and the feudal term ‘serf’ in Germanic parlance. Many of these peoples originated on the Russian Steppe and Carpathian Mountains region and they moved west as they were displaced by the warlike Huns who originated from the Far East of Russia and Mongolia.
I believe the term Slave for Slav, came from the Teutonic side of things in like 1200AD, dealing with the final pagan frontier. The word slave only comes into the English dictionary after that time.
"What is the Old English word for slave?
þeow
More common Old English words for slave were þeow (related to þeowian "to serve") and þræl (see thrall)."
@@MarkVrem I believe you are correct. I just know it wasn’t the Romans 🙂 Nice use of font characters for the Old English. I am not a scholar of OE and know very little Middle English. Many words in the Middle Ages in Saxon times were borrowed from Latin due to the influence of Roman Catholic missionaries to the UK where I am from. Serf is a Saxon derivation of the Latin word ‘servus’, though it’s meaning changed somewhat. Serfs were bound to the Noblemen and worked the land under the feudal system as vassals, just as the lords were in their turn vassals to the King. Unlike Roman slaves a Lord could not simply murder serfs with impunity as the Lord bore a responsibility to protect them.
I still have a book of Slavic Demonology it's bit older but it's a good reading and says a lot about how people thought about their environment and others.
Hi, could you possibly do a section on the north west passage and the ill fated Franklin expedition? P.s keep up the wonderful work! David. :)
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Epic History: History of Russia next
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Yes, though still need Bismarck Extra Credits (WWI related).
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3:34 AD did confuse me too,
Just wanted to comment about then you reacted with the same thought :)
Ok, let's watch more and see what else comes up.
I think he was referring to written records (writing) from the Byzantine perspective. Although Croats are already written about 600ADish. Other tribes like Alans and Roxoani are mentioned in the BC era. But I think the heartland like Russia itself and going deep into cultural aspects/religion, like a deep dive probably around 1000AD. When Byzantine acknowledges it as a power to have focus on. At least that was my interpretation of that 2000-1000AD quote lol.
@@MarkVrem Oh, sure, you are right. He used the number in the order, first 2000 and then 1000 AD instead of saying 'between 1000 and 2000 AD'.
But listening to it is still wierd, my brain could process "between 2000 BC and 1000 AD" better.
Well, might be my little ocd when it comes to numbers :)
@@raythevagabond3724 I think you're right. I think he was referring to the time period we find lots of archaeological records, but no written records until 1000AD, when the Slavs start writing themselves. Anyways lol
Very interesting video on a topic I know almost nothing about. I don't know if it's related the proto-Slavic religion, but Animism was practiced by some of the more remote Siberian tribes as late as the 17th century. I'd also be interested to see some of the Bronze Age archaeological finds he mentioned, and if they resemble those from the Hallstatt Culture further west.
The Slavs are the ancestors of the Hyperboreans. Hyperborea is a mythical pre-apocalyptic civilization, development of which was incomparably higher than development of modern humanity. Hyperborea was famous for spiritually and mentally developed people. Hyperborea was also called the land of magicians and sages. Of course, the existence of Hyperborea is not seriously considered in official science, but there is a lot of information in alternative history. The word "Hyperborea" is Greek. Most likely Hyperborea was located where the Arctic is now, as well as in most of the north of Russia. Russia has a long territory, along the Arctic is not accidental. In the north of Russia there are many megalithic structures, pyramidal mountains, ancient cities that were covered with sand and ground, and they are tens of thousands of years old. The Arctic Ocean in many places has a shallow depth of 5 to 10 meters, which looks like some kind of flooding
Hello SoGal and Roger. I learned something there. The Thracian and Illyrian people were about with Alexander's Macedonians, but I remember asking an Archeological graduate about where they went as the Romans took their lands and fought the Dacians on the Danube, who used a weapon I thought similar to a Thracian one.
The video failed to mention Huns, Scythians and Alans. I always wondered if such steppe peoples were pushed into the Roman Empire because of the westward push of China at the other end of the steppes.
My old neighborhood had Ukrainians and Yugoslavians and I went to school with and worked with Poles, so very interesting.
There was a very bloody war between Romans and Illyrians and others living in that region. This happened 6AD. This is the war where Arminius earned his stripes. Arminius being the German Prince who betrays Rome 3 years later, at Teutoburg Forest. So that area at that point is very unstable, and later the Goths will get settled there after the Huns push them into Rome. From there the Goths organize and eventually carve out their Italian kingdom after taking Rome.
Oh yah as far as Dacia is concerned. Illyria was probably still recovering from it's failed bloody war with Rome in 6AD when Rome attacked Dacia in 100AD. Rome held Dacia until 250AD. The Sarmatians and what remained of Dacia made Rome retreat out of Dacia in 250AD. Then the Huns show up and push the Goths and Alans across Dacia and across the Danube into Rome eventually.
The American Santa Clause is a modern version of Wodan/Wotan/Odin, the king of the gods in the Germanic/Scandinavian pantheon, who would descend from the heavens once a year, near the end of the year, and ride across the sky on his 8-legged horse Sleipnir to reward people who have been good and punish people who have been bad, so that everyone can start the new year with a clean slate.
That means Santa Clause as a mythological figure is more than 3000 years old.
Slavs have something similar, Ded Moroz/Dziad Mróz, which roughly translates to Grandfather Frost which is basically what Santa is like today.
In Russia and Ukraine there are still "cults" that worship Slavic gods, mostly they carry a nationalist and neo-fascist sense!This is usually expressed by certain tattoos in the form of the Black Sun and the Kolovrat. This is especially common among MMA fighters and the military.
For example, a couple of years ago in Russia there was a scandal that among professional athletes and power structures of Russia worship of pagan symbols flourishes.
"Inaction on the part of the Church leads to the fact that the promotion of a healthy lifestyle and physical activity often leads to the revival of a pagan attitude towards the human body," His Holiness Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Russia expressed concern at the first meeting of the Patriarchal Commission on Physical Culture and Sports. When we began to receive information that pagan views are becoming popular among athletes, we initially treated this as a kind of oddity, as an exception to the rule. the sports environment, and among the military, especially those who are involved in special operations with a risk to their lives, are becoming popular ideas stemming from the pagan attitude towards man. "
Archpriest of the Church Vsevolod Chaplin - Basically, we are talking about elite units, special forces that are associated with special military and military training, with a closed way of life, which implies an awareness of one's own elitism and the emergence of a certain ideology as a result, Chaplin said. "In such closed groups, the role of the commander and the leading groups of senior citizens is very important, and if they profess neo-pagan views or wear symbols related to this religion, then it is not very accepted to contradict them."
“In general, these are people with an extremely limited outlook,” explained the source of Constantinople in law enforcement agencies about the reason for the choice of such an exotic religion by these people. - There are intellectuals in law enforcement agencies, but there are simply killing machines. Many of the latter are impressed by the warlike spirit, emphasizing their elitism (the Vedic caste of Kshatriyas), which can be found in neo-paganism ".
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Nice vid. Kings and generals have a great series on Russia it'd be great to check it out
You should watch the Epic History series about: the History of Russia. It also touches on the early slavic people
Any chance to put a 'Sabaton - Defence of Moscow' music video reaction to the list?
16:00 We are Christians ,but there are elements of old Slavic Gods in every country of Slavic origin. May it be a place or a plant named by a God or ceirtain celebrarions that we kept as a souvenir of old times.As I said we are Christians (there are also muslim slavs-Bosniaks),but there are some traces of ancient religion of ours.
We are Viking slaves that broke free or got left behind but couldn’t go back to the other place we are from and settled other areas
FROM THE DEPTHS OF PREHISTORY (63'). Script and direction: Zdzisław Cozac You might try this one out
2.39 in video about Slavic writing, not sure because I hear that some people from Bulgaria and Russia claimin that first Slavic writing been Črty a Rezy ( vinča civ. Cca 5000 Bc)
In Poland we have still many of old customs, even the Church doesn't oppose then anymore as it did 800 years ago. czcams.com/video/BN7wfuh6zy4/video.html - burning the Marzanna, which is a sibling custom to the Indian custom of burning of Asura Ravana - invisible underworld god. Marzanna was a wife of invisible underworld-god. She is equivalent of Greek Persephona wife of invisble underworld god.
In Slovakia we have tradition burning of Marzana too but we call her Morena
Very much so. Polish celebration of Christian festivals have plenty of older- pagan traditions included. I believe it is so with other Slavonic nations.
Eagerly waiting for hannibal
By the legend, Razin threw Persian princess to water, because other pirates (Kazaks) were jealous that he has a sex, but they don`t, however, initially, they agreed to divide and share all robbed things equally. To avoid a rebel, he was obliged to do so. Pagan motives were added later in the 19 century, during the epoch of romantism.
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Many Bosnian muslim communities in rural areas practice ancient pegan rituals. Even I did as a child. Sometimes we just add touch of Islam in it. A little bit. Also Magic is still big deal.
Yeah exactly, these were really a thing among Bosniaks. Even in our old heretic christian religion
An interesting video about their culture and empire reach. But how did Slav become associated with the word Slave? I'm guessing something bad happened?
Look at India with their thousands of different divinities, some assimilated from other religions and some important people even became part of the Hindu pantheon.
Nearly all religions raking over the formers took something out of them and integreated those, somehow into their dogma. Polytheist religions in particular always added others civilizations gods to theirs to facilitates foreigners integrations into their society, Egyptians, Greeks, Romans... Later the Monotheisms also integrated some aspects of the former religions to facilitate conversion.
The Slavs as we know them today are kind of a mix between local tribes and Vikings invaders.
Side note, since you like aircraft tech and are also interested in slavic things, the series of documentaries Wings of Russia on CZcams will interested you, their English accent is very understandable and you will learn tons of things on Russian aircraft designs from the beginning to pretty much now.
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Yess
To answer your question. We are Slavs 1st everything else is secondary. Many people aren't even aware just how much of old tradions is still incorporated into whatever modern day religion that we may be practicing. By the by Slav do not mean "slave" but celebrate. This was nice,I appreciate the content. I may get some hate for saying this, but both Jesus & Muhammed are new kids on the old block. Slava Rodu!
In Germany between the Elbe and Oder there are many Germans who have Slavic ancestors. The Germanic tribes pushed towards the east and were superior with their weapons. The Slavic King of Brandenburg signed his kingdom over to the German tribes in exchange for peace. This gave the Slavs the same rights as the Germans and the peoples mixed. Today you can recognize it by the place names. Some German words also have a slavic root.
Slavs (the word) doesn't come from Slave, it is just weirdness of English, because very first mention of Slavs is from Greece and started on letter H. In Slovak, slave is "otrok" and Slav is " Slovan". So Slavs weren't slaves, it is just mistake in translation.
interesting. in Russian "otrok" means a young boy.
SoGal, I note from the other comments that I was not the only one who felt s bit dizzy with where this was going.
It reminded me of where most of my Ukrainian neighbours were from. In Great War video it was shown as Lemberg in Austria- Hungary. It was then Lvov in Poland. Then it was in Soviet Union, then German occupied, then back to USSR. Now it is Lviv in Ukraine. Borders not as set as you or I are used to.
Is Roger planning a coup?
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Though there are a few earlier possible mentions, e.g. from Tacitus, real historic evidence starts in late antiquity. But we know by the names of rivers and by relations to other languages regions, where they dwelled. And therefore we have some archaeological finds. There is much speculation on myths and they don't give a lot of important information on history. You should view a video, which does more justice to the history of the Slavs and to what modern scholars say. They have done some investigations on mythology, but not on history. And the mythology in this video has a strong 19th century touch. Well, the foundation for its modern view was laid in the 19th century, but there were some developments in science since that time.
River Sava in Zagreb Croatia is one example.. Sava - which means to take liquid. Like Slava would mean to party, to drink, get drunk lol
Slavic pagan tradition were combined with Christian celebrations, by that you can get non-Christians to convert over time by letting them keep some stuff
Hi, can't add anything to that other than I learnt alot, I knew none of that. I was also surprised when he said AD, I really don't think he meant that.
There is an interesting video about Slavic warriors. It is said : "even the birds would fly away if they saw him". :) They have some similarities with Vikings. Perun is similar too Odin. Slavs defeated: Romans,Greeks , they even defetead the Vikings couple of times,they refused to pay them a tribute,and "they chassed them back too the see" . They destroiyed one off the most important Viking city . No offensse i love Vikings too,just saying :) Btw we deserve a fantastic series like "Vikings" too :)
Prečo je vynechaná doba Veľkej Moravy?
3:45 No he means AD, proving this guys know what he's talking about, the slavs rose into the power vacuum left by the collapse of the Huns. It's possible the slavs may have come to be through a mixing of cultures between the indo-iranian semi-nomadic tribes such as scythains and sarmatians fleeing the rising power of the huns and combining with the local Balto-slavs to bolster their numbers and teach them new ways to fight.
Christianity had to absorb local gods and customs to be accepted. The obvious ones are the pagan winter festival of light, which became Christmas, and the spring fertility festival named after the pagan goddess Oestre. There are a lot of others. Many parallels can be drawn between the life of jess and the Roman God Mithras. In essence they are all telling the same story.
I thought that would contain more of the peoples history too. But was interesting. It's a pain when they snap the maps off quickly before you have time to peruse them. Have to go back and pause....
You're right about Christmas, but the festival of Easter is not derived from a pagan festival, but was celebrated by Christians from the very beginning (originally at the same time as Passover, of course.)
(And it's only called "Easter" in English, so there's no general link there.)
@@donaldb1 Christmas also did not derive from any pagan holiday, Christmas began as a pan-Mediterranean holiday during at least the third century and would have nothing to do with any Slavic custom (or Germanic, since some are under the impression Christmas comes from Yule) whom the *Roman* Christians would have probably not known much about and still considered to be barbarians.
"Many parallels can be drawn between the life of jess and the Roman God Mithras"
Wow, this is fascinating, what are some of these parallels?
@@ArdensSedVirens1 Ok, people aren't certain about Christmas, but it is much more likely influenced by a pagan holiday (Roman, I agree not Slavic or Germanic) than is Easter. It wasn't celebrated until at least the 3rd or 4thC. There's no biblical basis for dating it to 25th Dec. It became associated with the pre-existing celebration of the birth of Sol Invictus (the unconquered Sun).
But, alleged parallels between Jesus and Mithras (or Dionysus, or other cult figures of the time) are often pretty dubious and I don't think are taken seriously by many scholars now.
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Sooo, slavic culture today is much more different. Slavs aren't only Russia and the countries next to it, you have the rest of the Balkans and Europe as well. The culture though similar has its differences in each country but to point out the simmilarities they are dancing, singing, food and alchohol. They're the most prominent and characteristic, especially the dances. Folklor is in Bosnia(where I'm from). When looking back at the history for a sec you'll also have to take into concideraton Yugoslavia, the Ottoman empire and all other major events that shifted the way culture developed. Bosnia now is a mostly muslim country however it's also a multicultural country, meaning people from all around live here and there's no problm with that(politics and some systems are the problem but neverthelee).
Have you ever heard of the Indian custom of Suttee?
Interesting video. Not something I know a lot about.
Next time you go on date you ask what’s your ancestors they enter Slavic you are not going to have dull date hahaha
In Serbia we celebrate "Olalije" burning of an efegy depending on the part of Serbia and that's for good luck and prosperity also we use cooled charcoal from the efegy and smear all over the body, also for good luck and that depends on the part of the country. We also jump over the fire several times yelling Olalije! But its not as common as before..Its so normal for us we forget its a pagan ritual..
The Thracians (and before that the Scythians) were a Steppe people from whom the Greeks got the idea of Amazons. Spartacus was probably a Thracian. They were tough warriors and Herodotus correctly noted that they would have been the dominant culture if they had united and stopped fighting each other.
You mean Sarmatians right because the Thracians were not steppe nomads.
Meanwhile Greeks became the dominant culture while fighting each other non-stop.
I always get mistook for being Slavic by Poles too!!?.....Weird as I'm mostly Welsh bloodied! Work hard and Drink hard which is always a good ethic to live by and I've known quite a few Eastern Europeans who've lived by that tenant so.......
Iechyd da! & na zdorovya, cheers, or in Yorkshire "Is't thy round?"
@@alansmithee8831 Ha Ha You right though mate! Live in Brum Lol
@@JackRabbit002 Bostin
I make question for author or original video. I will repost here cause following of official history not gives much true aboute Slavs. "This is not even close to the true history of Slavs. Question for author of video.
If informations that you provide in video are historical facts, how do you explain that in Xanthos ( after hellenisation, previous name of city was Sirbin) exist obelisk with Slavs Low written in cyrillic, dating from 800 years b.c.?
Thanks in advance for explanation." We have to many winners to rewrite history back in time. You want to know true story about Slavs?
If Slav does come from the word słowo, which means word, because they spoke a similar language and understood each other. Polish people call Germans "niemcy". Maybe derived from the word "niemy", which means one who cannot speak.
😂 Serbian people call Germans "Njemci"and it has the same meaning.
@@milicajankovic9422 In Russia we call Germans немцы/nemcy and this word has the same meaning as in Polish and Serbian
@@user-tn9ze4tm5y yes Slavic languages same root almost same spelling in Cyrillic.
Hello. About what you said about external influences on the Slavic brand of Christianity here’s what I can say. The Eastern Orthodox Church as well as the Roman Catholic Church have gained considerable numbers over the many centuries of their existence by syncretizing the pagan deities and practices of most of the people they reach with Christianity. One example I can think of is how Mary the mother of Jesus is actually seen by the Catholic Church in the same way ancient Egyptian pagans view Isis: an eternal virgin mother. Idol worship is still being kept alive because of the two institutions (e.g. statues, relics, and icons). Liturgy is very formalized. However the one thing that remains consistent in both Slavic paganism and Eastern Orthodoxy is that every adherent must do something in order to attain everlasting life or forgiveness from God. The Apostle Paul did go to Eastern Europe and could’ve encountered the early Slavs and preached the Gospel to them. That’s all I can say. God bless you.
Catholic Churches you mentioned didn't "syncretizie" anything. People/believers did. And then from that it becomes a custom in some area or country and if popular enough or if there are migration it spreads further until it becomes just tradition.
And the point about Isis is very mistaken. Isis was no virgin. She was married to Osiris, like an actual life, and she conceived with Horus by having sex with the Osiris' dead body.
Mary was always highly regarded and that has nothing to do with any pagan religion.
@@Wlof25 my bad, but still the concept of a mother goddess is still present in the veneration of Mary who did consummate her marriage with Joseph and had children with him. She wasn’t an eternal virgin as is commonly held by Catholics. She also wasn’t a good candidate for a mediator as she herself offered two doves for a sin offering (meaning that she had acknowledged herself to be a sinner needing a Savior). I do think that this ties more closely to the veneration of a deified woman named Semiramis from ancient times. She was depicted as both a mother and a virgin. However, throughout the centuries her name had been changed to fit the pantheons of different pagan peoples.
@@ethankaryadi37 There is no concept of mother goddess in Catholic Churches. She was never regarded as a goddess of any kind.
And if I may add also that we can not forget that some nations on purpose spread propaganda about Slavs even in those times for example the name Slav. I mean c mon in this video they made Slavs look like some ungodly creatures like all the other nations are sweet and kind don't make me start talking about the Eastern Romans how they conquered most of the Mediteranean, again, like ancient Rome.
15:30 Note the similarities to the Norse gods. For an example the axe wielding thungdergod Perun and the hammer wielding thundergod Thor, these can either be because of cross pollination that happened after the vikings conquered Russia but it could also harken back to some earlier indoeuropean pantheon. Or both.
The worship of sacred trees were also big in the Baltic religon, and to some extent in the norse religion.
9:03 How could someone in the 7th century call the Volga "Russian" , if the term "Russian" didn't exist until the 9th century und the Volga wasn't russian until the conquests of Ivan the 4th in the 16th century?
PS: Cossacks didn't exist back then either.
Modern translation I would guess. He also called himself a Zaporozhian cossack which is also an anachronism.
He meant 17th Century.
In Serbia, Serbians are Christians in name only. To this day you can witness priests fighting the villagers about how they should celebrate holidays. Reading Bible is not a religious routine in Serbia, but eating and drinking instead. That's the reason why we celebrate so many holidays.
5:00 That's not quite correct, the Sarmatians and the slavs may have coexisted temporarily but not at the rise of the Sarmatians but at their fall, the sarmatians were destroyed by the huns, the slavs rose in the powervaccum that became apparent once the hunnic empire collapsed.
If the Sarmatians pressed into Slavic territory and we don't know that for sure (but Polish cultural tradition holds that the Polish nobility are the descendants of Sarmatians), they did not do so and conquerors but rather fleeing the rising power of the huns.
On a lighter note ,how about the rise of merseybeat ,and the second wave with Frankie goes to Hollywood and Pete burns RIP, and of course Declan McManus aka Elvis Costello?.peace and love from the wirral
Yes, we still have pagan holidays we celebrate, like Ivano Kupala and Kolyada in Ukraine
In Poland (and probably most other slavic countries) there are a few traditions that have their roots in slavic religious practices, but they are either transformed to fit into a Christian narrative or are simply traditions without any religious significance. As far as I know, noone seriously believes in the slavic gods anymore, though you never know, there may be crazy groups who want to revive the old religions (haven't looked into it).
There are absolutely groups reviving it.
And there are places where it never actually died out. In my area it was not "a few traditions", it was the whole damn old holiday cycle celebrated alongside the Christian one, with the holidays holding their ritual significance and their power was (and is) still believed in. And the worship of many of the gods survived as well, most disappeared in the 19th century but a lot are holding up.
Religions are complicated. In the past, there seemed to be 2 varieties. The difference tended to orient itself on lifestyle. Agricultural vs. Pastoral. Some ancient African agricultural societies tend to have an Adam and Eve type of beginning (Pre-Christian Ethiopia). On the other hand, Indo-Europeans came from a traveling pastoral lifestyle. So old Roman, Greek, Slavic, Nordic, and Persian start with a person sacrificing an animal to create his universe, then that animal becoming holy. Judaism and Christianity are in a way the most unique because they might be the first genuinely modern 3rd variety, the "Urban-life?" based religion. Focused on people and not the sun, plants, or animals Just quick thoughts.
Well, this video is semi-decent mithology primer but the guy is TERRIBLE with dates. "2000 and 1000 AD" instead of BC (I assume, because he said larger bigger number first as is usually done with BC dates, and mentioned Herodotus that lived in V centiry BC). Also Stepan Razin is 17th century, not 7th (and the entire story about the Persian princess is a total myth that gets mainstream 200 years later).
I suggest you to also watch this video by M.Laser History about slavic origins as known by contemporary history. czcams.com/video/eLrMjNtAy8M/video.html
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I suspect the real story is a bit more nuanced, at least us Scots and Irish like the Baltic tribes have been the unhappy recipients of Roman crusades, hence the declaration of Abroath...we ,re still functioning..
why video ab slavs superstisions named rise of the slavs
when u see video for example "rise of Rome" its not ab jupiter and company - its ab Rome
Could you react to the video on Polish-Soviet war czcams.com/video/Dilc5-Yt2ZQ/video.html or the Swedish deluge czcams.com/video/buu6r09B9h4/video.html
Sleviyanin (rus) translation - the one who is glorified.
First Of all… Slavs does not mean slaves babe…
Meaning of Slaves in slavic language is completelly diffrent than in ‚English’ language
@@RobertoPol710 You're right, but also wrong. Slave doesn't mean Slav nowadays, but they come from the same origins. Meaning Slav people were called Slavs because they were slaves in ancient times.
OMG The comments are full of explanation about origin of the word for Slavs
No matter how hard you try to prove, we non Slavic people really dont believe it at all. We are just politically correct not to use it, but it doesnt mean we are not aware of the awfull destiny Slavs had to go through by the so called civilized peoples. There should be a excuse to all those countries which had slaves since the modern time, as Slavs were also traded by Venetians and Ottomans late to the early modernity.
Slavs were doing their thing before ruzzia was a hole in the ground.
People are pretty secular today, at least in the cities, maybe in the countryside some of the traditions and rituals are kept but I mean i don't think americans playing the piano and dancing in churces is representative of christianity rituals =)) I guess every country and culture has their own way of mixing religion with their own traditions and customs let's put it that way.
Wife had to follow her dead husband, no questions, in India in some regions she has till now. Of cause nobody buried her alive, no such cruelty, they just burned her alive, no problems. Men could have a lot of wifes during life.
Slavic not slave it means glory ... Why would they use Latin 😂
Yes he should have said BC. Christian missionaries realised early on that it would be impossible to stop an ancient peoples cultural festivals so instead they hijacked these festivals and Christianised them. The ancient Yule festival - to welcome a new year - was set as Christmas to instead be a celebration of the birth of Christ.
No, he should not have. The slavs emerged in the wake of the collapse of the hunnic empire, likely by a mixing of Iranian steppe nomads fleeing the huns and slavo-balts. This all happened in the 5th century AD.
@@DaDunge 1000 -1500 AD ? This video did leave out a lot of information as to early origins. Byzantium fell to the Ottoman Turks in 1453 AD, where were the Slavs at this time? The video was rather confused and spoke too much about myth and little about fact. There was no mention of Rome’s clashes with the Veneti. This is why I questioned the AD appellation to the date. To me the video appeared more like Slav propaganda with loose fact tacked on. All the original tribes coming from the east from the Russian Steppe and the Carpathian Mountains were intermingled with the Persians and the Sarmatians which happened in the time before Christ. The reason our western languages are called Indo-European has much to do with these interactions. The much misunderstood term Aryan originated in the east and includes Slavs, Germanics, Persians and Indians. The video was a poor introduction to the history of the Slavic peoples and I was expecting better.
@@markkettlewell7441 Not is should obviously be 500-100 ad. And we really don't have much info on early slavic culture. It seems to have emerged from a very limited region.
@@DaDunge Well that makes more sense.
Who are Slaves, Slav,, Slavjani, Slavni?
Thay are actually Macedonians and their an ally (Dardanians, Illyrians, Thrachian, Epirs, Thessalyans...)
How the name coming from? After Kingdom of Macedonia is conquered under Roman Empire all the gold, slaves, parade through Rome it's kinda of practice that time. For the Macedonians thay are exotic examples for the people of the Rome, because they are famous (slaven - nativ name) by the Alexander the Macedonian. The only famous people on Balkans (Macedonian peninsula) are Macedonians. Even today all who is named Alexander as a short name is called "Slave", and the name Slave is synonyms to Alexander. "SLAVEN" (famous) as synonymous is given for slave in English and all ex-Latin world, but it it not a case in all Eastern "Slavik" languages. Slave in Latin is "Servus", and in the centurys that followed some latin historian in the place of Macedonia are replaced with Servus and later Serbia, that is how is Serbia (Servus) created just latin name for Slaven.
After Kingdom of Macedonia is conquered by Rome a lot of people flee away the region as refugee in North, North-East direction, OPPOSITE and also outside of Rome lands and thay settled there. From 8th century AD there was moving of that same Slavic (Macedonian) people to their home land. And only because their language is not very different or some kind of dialects they made it to settled back.
Academic version:
The terms "Slaves," "Slav," "Slavjani," and "Slavni" historically refer to a diverse group of individuals predominantly associated with the Macedonian populace, alongside allied groups such as the Dardanians, Illyrians, Thrachians, Epirotes, and Thessalians. The etymology of these terms can be traced back to the period following the conquest of the Kingdom of Macedonia by the Roman Empire. During this time, a notable practice involved the procession of gold and enslaved individuals from Macedonia through Rome, wherein Macedonians, distinguished by their association with Alexander the Great, served as exotic exemplars to the Roman populace. Consequently, the designation "Slaven," derived from the native Macedonian name, became synonymous with fame or renown, particularly in the context of Alexander's legacy. This linguistic association extended into the English language and the broader ex-Latin world, where "Slave" acquired connotations of renown akin to "Alexander." However, it is noteworthy that while "Slaven" attained this significance in the Western linguistic sphere, its equivalence to "Slave" is not universally applicable across all Eastern Slavic languages. In Latin, the term for "slave" is "Servus," leading to subsequent historical shifts wherein Latin historians replaced references to Macedonia with "Servus," eventually contributing to the emergence of the toponym "Serbia" as a Latinized rendition of "Slaven." Subsequent to the Roman conquest, a significant exodus of individuals from the region ensued, with many seeking refuge in northward and northeastward directions, ultimately settling beyond the confines of Roman dominion. From the 8th century AD onwards, a gradual migration of these Slavic (Macedonian) populations back to their homeland commenced, facilitated by linguistic affinities and the relative similarity of dialects, culminating in their resettlement.
Whilst the word slave may have derived from slav, but to label slavs as slaves is misleading. Slavery and serfdom was common throughout Europe. Any conflict resulted in the enslavement of the concurred. People in all areas in Europe were taken as slaves including France Britain Germany etc. In fact most slaves in Rome and Greece were Roman and Greek.
Bog, raj i svet doesn't come from Iranian Jesus Christ it came from Indo European the mother language of both Slavic and Iranian languages
The Thracians are the ancestors of the Romanians and Bulgarians! In ancient times Bulgaria was called Thrace, and north of the Danube lived their cousins Daco-Getae, ancestors of the Romanians. There are similarities and differences between the two groups but they are the same people says the historian Strabo, who visited them. You can react czcams.com/video/aRP0fh1IrPw/video.html and czcams.com/video/44vY_Rwc13k/video.html
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Many saints are actually incorporated pagan gods. From Brighid in Ireland to the incorporation of many of the greek, roman and germanic gods. it made the conversion of people to the new faith less troublesome. But Christianity has destroyed thousands of faiths this way.
What you've described there is called "syncretism" and isn't unique to Christianity. In fact, the Romans regularly did it prior to the arrival of Christianity; hence why Roman gods seemingly all having a corresponding Greek god for instance. This was a common practice in ancient times as a means of improving cohesion between different areas, by convincing them that they actually worship the same gods and so have things in common and aren't so different from one another.
*Also, rather than having "destroyed" those faiths, another way of looking at it is this:*
Prior to the arrival of Christianity, many of those societies did not regularly document or leave clear records about their beliefs. It is incredibly common for knowledge to be lost with time - e.g. how so much about Sumerian, Mesopotamian and Ancient Egyptian culture has long been forgotten, never mind the countless other smaller cultures or those that lasted for a shorter period of time that we know little to nothing about it due to their having left no record behind. By having incorporated such "pagan" beliefs into its system, Christianity has actually helped some of those beliefs - and the knowledge around them - to survive; albeit in somewhat different form.
Destruction of demonic pagan religions, epic.
@@googleaccount4471 Christianity was so destructive, it killed the western roman empire
@@Panteni87 Yes, it was definitely Christianity, not the centuries of civil war, economic mismanagement, and barbarian invasions.
@@ArdensSedVirens1 fair enough, it was more the straw that broke the camel's back
Funny ,Romanians use to be called vlahs.
Slave is not slav .... That's incorrect... "Slave" is Latin the word "slav" come from the word "Slava" meaning "glory".... 😂.
Słowianie to nie Rosja tylko
"Slav" does not mean "slave" ..🤯😂🤯... "Slav" is short for "Slavic" = "Slavic" comes from the word "Slava" meaning "Glory"......
Also "slave" is an ENGLISH WORD !!! It's "раб" or "rab" not slave😂😂
Why would a people name themselves slaves !!!!
Now you have to do a video on Russian history...
Except slave is not an English world, but a Latin one.
Except it's not ... Russia has zero connection to latin ... The Romans knew them as the venedea and never made war or actual contact ....
Like the Norse it is its own branch of indo European language ....
It's like saying Scott means cattle since that what it means in SLAVIC languages .....
Also why would a people call themselves slave or cattle ?
It's a coincidence....
Slavic means people of glory .....
@@cornpop7863 It's not about Russia, but about Slavs. And Slavs had many connections with Romans, in Southern Europe. And it's not a matter of how you would call yourself, but how others call you. Back then there was not many choices in terms of national/personal preferences.
@@cornpop7863 Slave comes from Latin "sclavus" so indeed is a Latin word.
Only western etymology relates Slavs to Slaves.. idiotic, if you know history you will know that most slaves were muslim during Byzantium when the areas was recaptured by the Slavs.
wow you can really tell your american 😂you don’t even know what AD means 🤦♂️common i learned that at age 7
It means anno domini - year of our Lord. I learned that too, but schools now use CE - Common Era because they feel AD is too religious.
@@SoGal_YT yeah i know but she only knew what bc meant 😂
I am she?
Древнеславянская этноязыковая группа сформировалась в северо-восточной части среднеевропейской общности на основе лужицкой культуры. Около 550 года до н. э. из области Польского Поморья на эти земли начинается миграция племен поморской культуры. При этом местное население не покидало мест своего обитания. Поначалу могильники носителей лужицких и поморских древностей сосуществовали на одной территории, но очень скоро начался активный процесс смешивания пришлого населения с аборигенами, чему способствовали одинаковые уклады жизни и этническая близость. Возникают общие поселения и могильники, в которых преобладали лужицкие традиции. Постепенно все большее распространение получает обычай накрывать остатки трупосожжений крупным колоковидным сосудом - клешем. . В зоне смешения поморской и лужицкой культур складывается новое образование - культура подклешевых погребений. Имеются все основания отождествлять эту культуру с ранними славянами.
Таким образом, славяне как отдельный этнос сформировались около середины I тысячелетия до н. э. в условиях взаимодействия части древнеевропейского населения Висло-Одерского бассейна, представленного лужицкой культурой, с расселившимися на той же территории балтскими пламенами поморской культуры.
Среди населения лужицкой культуры были носители протославянских диалектов, которые в середине I тысячелетия н. э. развились в раннеславянские.
Областью культуры подклешевых погребений первоначально были бассейны среднего и верхнего течения Вислы и Варты, но очень скоро ее носители расселяются до среднего течения Одера на западе, до Волыни и Припятского Полесья на востоке.
Культура подклешевых погребений соответствует начальному этапу развития общеславянского языка В это время язык славян только что начал самостоятельную жизнь, постепенно вырабатывалась собственная языковая структура и лексика.
Древним названием славян были венеды. Этот этноним восходит к древнеевропейской общности и был, по-видимому, широко распространен в ее среде. Он фиксируется в разных местностях расселения древенеевропейцев -венеты в Северной Адриатике, венеты, покоренные Цезарем во время походов 58 -51 гг. до н. э. в Галлию и др. Очень вероятно, что венедами именовалась и часть племен лужицкой культуры. Если это так, то этот этноним мог быть перенесен соседями-германцами на формирующийся славянский этнос.
Результатом широкого расселения славян стали членение единого славянского этноса на отдельные народности и дифференциация праславянского языка на отдельные славянские языки. Формирование народностей протекало в разных местах славянского ареала неодинаково. Так, сербы, хорваты, карантанцы, сорбы и лужичане складывались на основе крупных племенных образований предшествующего времени; чехи - путем объединения небольших родственных племен при главенствующей роли одного из них. Становление болгар стало результатом синтеза разноплеменного славянства с расселившимися в его среде болгарами-тюрками. Самые крупные раннесредневековые славянские народности - польская и древнерусская - складывались в условиях интеграции различных племенных образований праславян.
West Europe was influenced by Romans. Eastern Europe was influenced by Greeks. There is no such thing as Slavic people or Slavs... Its just Greek culture. Same people same tribes just different culture, language, alphabet and names because of Greeks. Germany is also just Roman name for the land. There never were germans and slavs until nineteenth century.
That is like saying there is only American or Chinese today. Depending on where you want to sell your goods. You're going to take on some of their appearances. You're talking about two of the major markets at the time in Europe at least, and what influence they placed on others to make those markets available to the other people.
you are high?