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- Ancient History: The Peloponnesian War - Athens vs Sparta - Complete
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Then alexios was hired by both armies to win battles for them
😂😂😂
AND RULED OVER ALL OF GREECE AFTER THE DEATH OF THE CULT OF KOSMOS!
Nah I think that was his clone from another mother living on the other side you know
You misspelled Kassandra**
What I think you mean is Kassandra was hired by both armies
Crazy how Greece was considered a world of its own at one time. Such a small country in the big picture of the world 🌍 so much established
Nvermind China named themselves the Middle Kingdom, they believed they were the center of the world, every great power have that centric view
Every ancient power saw themselves as the center of the universe.
Think about Japan
The thing is that Greece didn't even exist as a united political entity,yeah there were some hegemonic states like Thebes,Athens who managed to spread their power and influence over some parts of modern greece but back then there wasn't united greece.
In fact there was not greece at all because they called themselves Hellenes,and btw modern greek also call themselves Hellenes so they can express themselves as the successor of anicent Hellas which can't happen in any way however
@@aleksandarstoichev5463 In fact, they weren't even people from Greece, they're actually robots
There is a new-ish mode for AC Odyssey called "Discovery" and it is just one huge history lesson. Definitely worth checking imo.I missed out on so much on my initial playthrough , you can appreciate so much more about the game with it.
In time for Assassin’s Creed Odyssey
:)
- "This is Sparta!"
Those sorry ass Athenians are about to pay...dearly!
GRIMALDUS - They are indeed. I support Sparta, why not Alixios and Kasandra are Spartan. There mother is the daugther of King Leonidas.
I actually watched this because of AC Odyssey. :)
The greeks were notorious for their infighting. Internal conflicts and civil wars up until moden times.
Fortunatly Athens was spared the fate of being burned to the ground and its citizens enslaved when they lost the war. The Spartan King refused several demands to do so (which was common) from allied city states.
History would have looked very different if the greek city states would have learned to work together.
Thedeepseanomad they did, once king Phillip and his son united Greece, they took the fight to Persia.
@@contemporarymale While you speak truth, some united under fear, others under conquer. Remember what Alexander did to those arrogant Thebans and their city???
Also spartans did not. And they lost the glory.
Look at Rome and Carthage. Carthage faction was totally wiped out once the Romans beat them. Erased! Those Romans are nasty.
Basil II of Macedon the Vardaskan slayer greece is gay and rome is cooler. Greece got rammed by chad rome.
@Basil II of Macedon the Vardaskan slayer Like Eskimos have may words for snow, Greeks have many words for freedom.
Last history video I promise then I'll start studying.
We are cut from the same cloth bro
Me 3 lol
(3 hours later)
:What are you doing ?
:I got carried away.
Just say your studying for history!
most forbidden documentary.. Europa The Last Battle at archive . org
I'm currently playing out the Peloponnesian war right now in Assassin's Creed Odyssey
me too :)
Historicly Authentic ??? the next best thing.....
Yes where half the soldiers are women. ..... Very historical, you're just playing a fantasy game.
@@concretehippogaming Half the soldiers aren't women.... there are no Spartan women in the army in AC Odyssey..
@@dompdompdomp who cares if the game is 100 % accurate?? Why do you think we are taking the time to learn the ACTUAL history? If it wasn't for AC games i wouldn't know or give 2 shits about Egypt or the Peloponnesian wars. At least we are taking the time to learn the difference between what's real and what's a game.
This is how Xenophon, an Athenian historian and pupil of Socrates, describes the moments when the news of the devastating defeat at Aigos Rivers (i.e. the final naval battle described in the video) reached Athens: "...a sound of wailing ran from Piraeus through the long walls to the city, one man passing on the news to another; and during that night no one slept, all mourning, not for the lost alone, but far more for their own selves".
When I play Rome total war I always play as the Greek city states and always conquer every battlefield using the Phalanx formation
Playing RTW right now as the Greeks!.
Same
same. until those thracian armies that are entirely javelin-men...
Roman military strategy and tactics were better than the Phalanx.
The Phalanx was good, but was very inflexible when it came to terrain or a shift in the battle line.
Cough cough "dork" Cough cough
Thanks assassin's Creed I feel a need to study up on some real Greek history
Cosmic Drew AC has that effect. Love the series. Even the worst entries are educational as long as you understand many minor details are twisted to fit the templar/assassin narrative.
Ya what are you talking about real history. Assassins creed have historians and the like helping them. Also have to remember like buddy said they twist certain things to fit the in game story.
This was amazing fun! Yo, EPIC! THANK YOU! I look forward to your next cinematic display! Awesome!
Thoroughly enjoyed this from beginning to end. Keep up the good work :)
this was amazing, loved it! eager for the next!
One of my favorite historic moments. Thank You.
Lastly I've been really into Greek mythology and I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL😍😍😍
This is not mythology.
@@1971ekc well this video isn't, but some of the others videos are in this channel
Well done. Nice work mate.
Just came to check whether the Plague in Assassin's creed Odyssey ~ happened coz of my decision errors lol to my surprise ~ It was history who did it XD _Damn tht Phoibe scene hit me hard_ Malaka
I like how you used shots from the old 300 movie. Rather entertaining and fairly historically accurate.
Great video! It got me hooked
“For ourselves, we shall not trouble you with specious pretenses- either of how we have a right to our empire because we overthrew the Mede, or are now attacking you because of wrong that you have done us- and make a long speech which would not be believed; and in return we hope that you, instead of thinking to influence us by saying that you did not join the Lacedaemonians, although their colonists, or that you have done us no wrong, will aim at what is feasible, holding in view the real sentiments of us both; since you know as well as we do that right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.”
― Thucydides The History of the Peloponnesian War Melian Dialogue
I wasn’t really interested in this stuff then I played AC Odyssey and now I’m so addicted to watching these
Yea
The artwork looks amazing
Easy on the ads dam
This is the best way to start my day!!
It’s kinda sad that this was the end of Sparta as they went into decline after
No it was another war with the Boetian league led by Thebes that caused its downfall.
Very well done!
I LOVE THIS CHANNEL!
Dam Spartans. Destroyed Greek hegemony. If only those blithering Athenians had not gone to Italy..
Thats wrong the greek Hegemony just started with this victory of Sparta over Athen, since one of the allies of Sparta who has risen to power during the war was the small greek Kingdom of Macedonia in the north.
@@denniseggert211 Macedonia wasn't small Philip just inherited poorly trained infantry but their cavalry was already famed and they could field respectable forces, Greek Kingdoms were just looked down on. The Peloponnesian wars led to the end of Athens and Sparta as powers as chaos reigned over Greece for a long time, Thebes took down Sparta and Macedon swooped in to take advantage.
Athens abandoned Sparta; Greek's trump card against foreign invasion.
Raymond Gordon Sparta saved the Greek and the free world from Persia at Thermopylae tho if it wasn’t for Sparta the world would look very different than it is now
@@atomsmasher9279 we'd be speaking alot more Arabic for sure
U helped me so much on my ss project thanks
I really enjoyed the video. By any chance is it possible that I could get the links to your information? I'm working on a research paper pertaining to the War. Thank you again for the great video.
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Loved this vid, totally engrossing to watch
Very awesome video! Loved the detail and the pictures that went along with the stories! The only suggestion I was have is to leave out the chapter changes, they happened kind of abruptly. Overall, still a very very awesome video and definitely worth a subscribe!
thanks :)
Agreed
Where did you get these fantastic images for this vid?
Hey I loved the video thank you so much I wanted to ask you for a favor could you send me the links of were you got these incredible artworks of war please thank you
Love these vids
Superb documentary.
I remember one story where Sparta asked for help. Athens sent 4,000
troops to help. When the athenians arrived, the spartans told them to go
home. I think that is one of the ultimate insult... @_@
A pretty accurate account of what happened!
My suggestion is more emphasis should had been given to the three naval battles won by the Athenians after Alkiviades came back to Athens.
Another suggestion would be to pronounce the Greek names properly because the English pronunciation is confusing. A Greek native speaker could be very helpfull!
Another amazing video from See you in History! I actually recently uploaded my own summary video of the Athens vs Sparta conflict causes in 4 minutes if anyone wants the spark notes version haha!
I love your videos
Great summary - would be greatly improved if you noted years of events throughout
Incredibly ironic that Perisa helped Sparta to win a war.
No it's not ironic it's called politics.
The Spartans surely must have realised that Persia was playing all of the Greeks and wanted to keep Greece in a perpetual state of weakness and conflict by paying to support their battered fleet.
This is a textbook example of divide and conquer from Persia, if you are a great foreign power and you want to conquer a foreign territory that is in a state of war, you support the weaker side, now the Spartans were traditionally very strong on land but terrible at sea, so the Persians realised that once Sparta crushed Athens at sea, they would only have to deal with smaller powers like Chios, Mytilene, Corsera, Rhodes and Corinth to gain dominance in the Aegean Sea. The Spartans played themselves because within 30 years of their victory over Athens their land army would be eventually defeated by their former allies the Thebans, the Thebans would in turn be defeated by the Macedonians 10 years after the Spartan defeat at Leuctria( 371 b.c).
@John Saf Alexander is the son....
@John Saf The biggest and richest empire at the time was not a great power. I loled
It was because there was a treaty.
I'm Greek and I loved this video! Your channel is awesome!
Thank You :)
I’m not Greek and your Greek-ness irrelevant. Pay your taxes.
becaues the men that ran away from greece made rome , they hated greece but their kids loved their romanticism of greece just like today. They end up reverting just like today
Hey how you doing keep the good job up I will wondering can you send me the name of the clips of movies that you use on this video they look very interesting and I would like to know what are they for controllers see them the movies that you use for the clips of this video I will appreciate it thank you thank you
I am Greek you are doing excellent job thank u
Ty :)
My God. How many adverts? Ive counted 15 so far. Aint subscribing to this channel
In 394 BC with the Persian naval victory over the Spartan (allied to Egypt) fleet at Cnidius permitted setting up a fortified base at Kythera off the Peloponnesus and raiding the Spartan homeland at will. Thus Persia broke the Spartans ending the Peloponnesian War with a Persian victory and control of the Aegean.
What movie is that with the stills you used for Pericles in the beginning?
Why it's said mythology? that war happen and we have evidence...
But nice video
Idk humans are weriod lol
@Tomas Juarez The story about the 300 Spartans for example is for a big part a fabricated story by the Spartan propaganda machine.The truth is that they weren''t as glorious according to actual history. Maybe that's why some think that this war is mythical as well?
@@2009heyhow werent as glorious according to actual history?? You found some evidence no one else knows about? Nobody thinks either the battle of thermapolae or the peloponnesian war were mythical.
@@elguerojusticiero they are not mythical. It's just that things were not like in that movie 300. For some reaseon a lot of people think that movie is exactly how it happened
Universum The mass armies that the Persian came with was accurate even with the Immortals. The 300 Spartans is a debate since some allies did join them but later Leonidas told them to leave. The movie was overall pretty accurate but just not with all that fked costumes the Persians wears and all them animals
Watching this for class .....
same
will there be any story/movie after the Peloponnesian War?
I like the last of the Mohicans film score in the background
Really interesting also very useful in my history report lol
Will you do the hx of Iberia and the Mediterranean peninsula
See you in History / Mythology - I really like your content but glancing the timeframe of the video puts me off as I'm unable to keep up throughout . Is it possible for you to consider splitting the cake into chunks . As in four 6-minute video compartments instead of one long stretch.
It is because I need help on a project about Greek wars and I would like to use the website were do you get your beautiful artworks from
Is there a list of music used for this video?
Hopefully aced my exam today, thanks! 🤞
I really hope you make a video of the Viking invasions during the time of Alfred the great.
Because of Assassin’s creed Valhalla, when it’s released this year.
This is epic
Was gonna subscribe but an add kept coming up when I hit the button.
I can't hear you over the music.
Can someone please help with the English subtitles ( for every video)as there are alot of mistakes committed by the autotranslater
He almost sounds like George Takei.....
What's the name of the song track in 26:20?
İ do admire this video , i have read peleponnessian war history book from thukydides and this video is very true :)
6:06 Pericles from Civilization VI!
The grain for Athens did not come from Egypt but largely from the lands bordering the Black Sea.
You are wrong. That colonies are just for trading with locals in exchange for theyr citys and not for land agricultural gross uses. In exchange the Egipt it was an agricultural by default due to that excelent pozition. Belive me, I'm from Romania where it was 3 major greek colonies at the Black Sea: Tomis, Histria and Callatis. Your welcome.
you should do an introduction. You get that little intro... wind going on then BOOM.
Hard to imagine a civilization that didn't have electricity or an engine.
there are still those who live under the stars and sun. People who rely on fire and their own bodies.
So Sparta won on land and Athens on sea until italy
The spartan soldiers where the strongest soldiers of thier time anthens may defeat sparta at sea and wealth but not whit thier training thier skil thier hoplites and war was sparta s specialeti
@@lethaloutdoors001 Yep, the Spartan armies were wrecking Persia when they had to be recalled back home since other city-states were bought by Persia to attack Sparta.
"I've been defeated by 10.000 archers" Persian gold coins had an archer engraved.
8:04 repeat that again
This is a lovely public resource, thank you for making it! However, as a classicist myself, your pronunciations make me go absolutely feral.
9:38 what's battle of pay and edominay? I don't know the correct spelling
This is madness!!! ...
I turned my bass down all the way and could still barely hear since youre trying so hard to deepen your voice
13:50 ~ When the Spartans move back the same way.
How's that, now?
5:57 turn on closed caption
Ah yes, General Bursitis. He was quite a pain.
lol I see what you did there lol
You aren't funny lol
Good thing Athens BUILT THAT WALL!
What movie is that senator from?
Well Spartans end up being better at military technique and even diplomacy,I mean it takes a man to go to immortal Persians and call for aid.It shows the Spartans were not the absolute military regime with no working brain,they were defeated by Persians in past and they did also defeat Persians but still they have the RESPECT and HONOR for their Persian counterparts.Sparta recognize them as the Brave men just like them,
and I am pretty sure Persians took advantage of the situation and were ready to make moves in Asia minor and annihilate the greek colonies but the sparta knows,they will win instead they turn them against the Athens.
It's not exactly like that it's pure politics they didn't have other choice.
The Spartans just went to someone they knew would help.
Nothing could stop athens in Greece if it wasn't for Persian help.
Spartans knew that and acted out of need.
I hate to say it as a Greek, but Persia was the only one to play others in that war
@@markellospatras3039 You don't have to hate to say it Persia and Greece were both proud nations with Persians better of the 2 cuz they appear again and again in history and even have tendency to stand up to whole might of Roman empire.
Its not your fault nobody will tell you that Persian and Greek were pretty good trade partners and even Alexander have respect for Persian "Cyrus the Great" and when conquered the area.....he visited his tomb as pilgrimage the Tomb was looted by Greek Hoplites.
He was very angry and killed Greek criminals and repaired the tomb which include at-least 2 ton old Gold sarcophagus lid and very rare gems....he paid for everything and still to this day.The one of the greatest Persian cultural heritage site Naqsh-e Rostam have Alexander seal on it testament to old times and REALITY..when we use to respect eachother BUT then times changed and Greeks turned whole tail of 300 in to propaganda.
I am not saying he didn't damaged a lot of historical sites but even he respected us like we respect Greek.
The Spartans were not idiots they knew very well their forces are no match for Persian ground forces in Asia minor and Asia minor is not Thermopylae either with later being one of the best defensible places in entire planet.The were going to lose their Asian holdings anyway but used diplomacy and turned enemy in to good friend and manage to knock out Athens in process AND they did lose their Asia minor holdings but won the War in Greece.
I am against "Athens as smart kids with Spartans as mindless manics" cuz unlike Athens they showed it with their actions....
They did not recognize them as brave they recognized them as powerful seriously after being defeated so humiliatingly at Platea they did not consider them brave
My studies of university are on Greek era history now. Specially the Greek states. I need recommendations. Pls anyone! Mostly I’m hoping about the books
I recommend *A study of Greek History* By Prof.L. Mukherjee, M.A.
I'm studying this book for my Al's it will definitely help you! :)
Nice video just too many ads
Historic truth shatters the illusion of sparta saving the democratic west, they constantly fought against democracy. By the way, several thousand thespians fought alongside the meagre 300 spartans at Thermopolay. Have you read Thucydides on the pelopo war?
First of all herodotes speaks writes of what happened in thermopylae second of all thoukididis wrote the pelloponisian war that has nothing to do with the 300. Third there were 700 and not thousands of thespieis. Fourth the Spartans never saved democracy they had a different system. Fifth the Athenian Democracy is totally different of what you know today. If we could bring an Athenian here from the past and tell him look we have democracy he would have said no you have oligarchy.
To the ikariam game you have hellenic hoplites to fight against hellenic hoplites..
Man i love your content but it is difficult to hear the narration sometimes
love your videos but waaaaaay too much ads...cant truly enjoy it the way it's meant to be. Great video just try to keep ads to a minimum
I know trying to relax and enjoy the video but have to click skip ads every fuxking 3 minutes
If Greeks kingdoms unite from the beginning they would probably conquer the whole of Europe and the Persian empire.
The metaphor. The same country fighting each other wherein they could’ve instead conquered the world...
And in the present time, the same world fighting each other instead of prioritizing to conquer the solar system alone.
Actually later on Philip of Macedonia conquered all Greeks but the Spartans and then his son conquered half of Asia
And then Greece could rule the world that means the world will eat Souvlaki
Athens... ya'll got some grapefruits! I'm impressed.
Tanagra, you say...
TEMBA
HIS ARMS WIDE
I think the narrator is getting the First Peloponnesian War mixed up with this one.
Hahaha thank christ I'm not the only person who did a double take over that one ! Paul Winfield as a metaphor-spouting alien being hunted by the NotPredator ? Awesomeness.
14:23 you shamed Sparta.
Your pictures are from old movie about Thermopylae 300 Spartans.
That is hard to fight almost yue same country men with the same skill to fight with the sword and shield and spears.. I can only image how the fight would be a phearlous fight ehh..
i just saw an youtube channel that looked exactly the same, with a video just like this one, but in portuguese... does the guy owns both of them? or the brazillian one is just copying directly from this???
both channels are mine
@@SeeUinHistory that's cool man, hope you didn't feel offended or something, good luck with the channels
Your background music is significantly louder than your voice
Ac odyssey brought me here.
The Spartans were good. They were great warriors from a warrior society. Most of their success in their time was the discipline and ferocity of their phalanx. Breaking their phalanx was extremely difficult till Phillip came along. The Spartans failed as time passed because they failed to innovate and adapt. Unlike the Roman's who've changed their tactics and army compositions drastically to what would work.
Angel Garcia I don’t side with people who were know to sexually assault and rape children in the name of creating a soldier
The Spartans were adapting, all the Greeks used pikes by the time the Romans came along and different armor and tactics. Greece in general had declined greatly although it was still wealthy and had too many disruptive forces to align against. Rome only ever had Carthage and Pyrrhus as a major rival truth be told and hannibal didn't have the support back home to finish Rome when he had them on their knees, there was no roadblock once they started expanding, Seleucia was big but didn't offer resistance to much of anything. Macedon had subjects turn against it to side with Rome.
I honestly don't think sparta survived as long as other countries. Despite being an army power house they didn't really care for much else. Very single minded if you really look at it. For warriors and army you can argue their the best to ever do it. But outside of war besides the odd thing Spartans were very simple/single minded.
The Spartans simply ran out of man power. They failed at the society level, not at the battlefield level. They could not sustain their losses because they struggled with birth rates. No nation can avoid ever losing a battle. Defeat happens and the Spartans could have remained a power in the face of their losses if they had enough men.
AC Odyssey really did do a great job telling the story of the war