Never Seen Before: African Painted Dogs Steal Pups From Another Pack- Virtual Safari # 230
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- Prepare to be amazed as we dive into an unprecedented discovery at Londolozi. Our team has spent years observing the complex behaviours of wild dogs, but what we've recently witnessed is truly groundbreaking. In this Virtual Safari, we capture an astonishing sequence of events around a wild dog den that has left even the most seasoned experts in awe.
What You'll See in This Video:
Unprecedented Wild Dog Behaviour: Witness the Toulon Pack exhibit behaviour never before documented in the Sabi Sands, redefining our understanding of inter-pack dynamics.
Dramatic Encounters: Experience the tension and drama as two packs of wild dogs interact in ways that challenge traditional wild dog social structures.
Incredible Footage: See exclusive footage of wild dogs engaging in rare behaviours, including daring rescues and surprising adoptions.
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First thought that comes to mind is that stealing pups ensures survival of the pack with a diverse gene pool.
They've been surviving all this time without having a diverse gene pool, so why do they now need to steal pups to survive?
I thought the same
Absolutely
Or no. Stealing babies is also seen in solitary animals like xats.
It may be just a coincidence. Not every behavior is evolution related.
It's not like dogs are aware of genes.
Many years ago, I saw a fascinating documentary (possibly BBC) on African wild dogs being sedated, and temporarily taken from their pack, to be vaccinated against rabies. What I remember most clearly, is the sheer joy of the pack members when the taken dogs were returned. They went wild with excitement, even doing somersaults. I would love to see that programme again but have never been able to track it down online.
I think I saw that BBC programme too!! 🙂👍
@@oneoflokis Don't suppose you remember the title do you? It's one or those programmes I found memorable and would love to see again.
@chrisstone8210 No! Sadly I don't! Only that it was by the BBC and all about wild dogs in Africa. 1990s/early 2000s?
@@oneoflokis Thanks anyway.
@chrisstone8210 Hmm. I think YT has deleted one of my comments. I directed you to look further down the comments page to look for the title of a similar documentary another commenter saw on the Discovery channel...Could it be the same one?
Amazes me how there is obviously some advanced communication between these animals where they are literally all on same page acting as one. Awesome video. Thank you.
Instincts
@buddyduddyful I agree instincts play a large part but dogs are much smarter than they're given credit for. (Depending on the breed)
@@JBo77But where for the instincts come from? Pre-programming of what to do if situation a, b or c arises?
@@Kim-lc3fvI saw a baby zebra in a video, who was born mere seconds ago, trying to run away from a lion. How could it know that the lion was a threat after its eyes opened for the first time in its entire life?
Millions of years of evolution hardwired its brain to do that after who knows how many babies who stood cluelessly in front of danger were wiped out of the gene pool. Instinct is fascinating.
I think the alpha couple calls the shots and the lower ranks just follow. How could it be different?
I have seen behaviour in Eagle nests where the parent will bring a live hawk baby to the nest to feed her chicks. The baby Hawk starts to beg for food and the maternal instinct of the Eagle mother kicks in leading to adoption. Maybe something similar happened with the pups begging for food, leading to instinctive feeding and adoption.
Thanks quite amazing!
Mammals dynamics are much more complicated than birds.
I'm certificated animal behaviorist, in birds this behavior is normal, birds rarely can "recognize" baby of their species. They can't recognize how much they had ect and their behavior is stimulated just by seeing and hearing baby begging for food.
In mammals, especially dogs such behaviors are rather unlikely. If alpha female is willing to kill beta's kids from her pack and it's not stimulated to protect them, then she will not protect youngs from different pack (with different smell ect)
Mammals are MUCH more complicated than birds.
I would assume that the two packs may soon marge together and become one.
@@aanimavilis1492 That is a really informative observation and I think you are on the right track. They will eventually merge or at the very least interbreed
@@aanimavilis1492 Also explains why birds fail to recognise brood parasites like cuckoos.
Possibly they looking for recruitments to increase the pack size? Very fascinating dynamics with 2 separate packs. Looking forward to update on this. Thanks for sharing.
Yeah, could be. You take the babies at 7 or 8 weeks and you have cut off 6 months of protecting pregnant females, nursing and raising puppies and instead have ready to go young warriors in training.
They may have thought, “These are some good lookin’ healthy puppies!”
Wow, that was very interesting, who would have thought that they would not kill them and "adopt" these pups. Thanks for sharing this amazing event.
Its almost unheard of
Makes me dislike them even more
@@carystorm1863why ?
@FfTheard hyenas & wild dogs are so brutal at killing their pray I guess that's the reason ,hyenas ,wild dogs & komodo dragons hard to watch those videos.
@@carystorm1863fair enough have a good day👋
WOW! As a Zoologist. I’ve never heard anything like this. You have to document as much of this unusual Painted Dog behavior.
Thanks for the work!
I watched a wild dog documentary that was somewhat similar on the Discovery Channel when I was little once. The show was called, "A Tale of Two Sisters," or something like that.
The show featured two packs that bordered close together, each pack had an alpha female and the alpha females were sisters. The one pack had more wild dogs than the other and that pack's alpha female seemed much more dominant that her sister.
Both sisters fell pregnant and gave birth around the same time. When the more alpha female from the first pack discovered her sister's pups, she "kidnapped," her sister's pups and brought them back to the more alpha female's den.
There was a whole lengthy story about it with lots of drama and heartbreak throughout. I've unfortunately never been able to find that documentary since then and it's been driving me crazy. Maybe someone here could try finding it? It's truly a fascinating story.
I remember that documentary. It was very well done.
Wild dogs are fascinating and this whole story has kept us on the edge of our seats. There is more to come.
I saw it also. Or read the book or both. I think it was done by someone that studied elephants at first. Maybe a husband and wife team. I could be mixing them up with a book they did about a little survivor. A pup that was smaller and younger than the others because he had been kidnapped. He was picked on by the larger pups, had a hard time competing for food and when the pack moved he was too young. The document makers couldn’t stand it and did interfere. They ended up bringing him to another group that had pups his age and they accepted him.
"African Wild Dogs A Tale of tow sisters, by Alan Root 1990" Spelling issue in the original makes it more difficult to find in searches.
Do u remember d story of i think a javkal that raised or adopted a wild dog ive forgotten d name@@ricmotta2495
Interesting behavior that may have ultimately saved those pups. Researchers must be fascinated with it. I am looking forward to that next video!
Us too!
Thank you, this reminds me of old Animal Planet. No added drama, just the excitement of a real set of events in the wild
My favorite animal. I so hope they never go extinct.
We need a few males to make friends with the red wolves…
@@aquireeverything9382 To breed with? That would make some interesting pups!
@@kellymichelley yes! They are huge desert wolves themselves, be a shame to lose em
the sounds are downright ADORABLE i love african wild dogs, theyre so unique and interesting. This video clearly showing that.
My hypothesis is that the pack has chosen a critical time in the pups development where most of the hard work raising the pups is nearly done theyre almost weaned but still young enough to learn to trust and become a part of a new pack so the pack that stole the pups have spent very little energy or effort raising these pups and boosted their pack numbers quickly while ensuring the smaller pack stays small with minimal bloodshed lol
Wow! Outstanding documentation of very rare wild dog behavior indeed. Social canids are much more complex than we imagined. Thanks for sharing.
These dogs are extremely smart wow. That's why they have such a high hunting success rate.
Makes tonnes of sense... increases pack numbers. And more importantly diversifies gene pool!
I remember this documentary from years ago where a lone female African wild dog tried to run off jackal parents and raise their pups as her own
They stole the other pack's pups! I have head of tribes doing that (with children) to help ensure the strength of their own tribe, too.
Excellent discovery, scientists today will be very shocked. I love African wild dogs and this has increased my love for them.
Absolutely incredible, thank you, Sean.
If you have ever been on safari you would know that it is the ranger's input that makes it so special.
Thank you so much, Marion.
Ground-breaking content! Absolutely amazing!!
I'm always finding more reasons to love my favorite animal more. We really have a lot to learn
I think they are weakling the one pack to strengthen theirs for survival. I am so looking forward to the updates on this.
Amazing! Many thanks for sharing! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you too!
I think it's basic economics. Bigger packs are more successful. Their hunting outcomes are better. They can resist other packs, etc. The pups have been weened, so they need just a few weeks to be useful to the pack.
That makes sense to me..The genetic advantages would seem to be a side effect .
Incredible. Can't wait to find out what happened later
So, has this never happened, or is this just the first documentation of it? It happened either way. This was so interesting. Thank you for the video.
My favorite animal on the African plains
Mine too, and hyenas.
Damne! Strength in numbers !
What a fantastic video to catch. Theses dogs have so much more to show. We really dont understand the wirkd of nature as we only think of ourselves. As in humans. 🙌🏻💚🇮🇪
That’s a truly incredible story. Ty for sharing
With the one male down it becomes pack of 2 with pups. That big pack does ensure the pups survival.
Very clever way of introducing new genetics into the pack.
What cute little wild pups! 🙂
Beautiful animals. Fascinating behaviors. Thank you.
Thank you too
I feel bad for the alpha male who sustained that very nasty injury
When there is enough food and resources, canines like wolves and domestic dogs will allow females who are in the lower hierarchy to have pups and even adopt orphaned pups. They are closely related to African Painted dogs, so this is probably similar behavior
They’re not closely related to wolves or dogs - side-striped, black-backed jackals and the dhole are closer to these African painted dogs.
The alpha female eats some youngins,
@@windtalker4191Can you cite a source?
What's your source?
You mean about Dogxim? I'm try to post a link, but CZcams keeps blocking it. You'll have to search "A Case Study of Pampas Fox (Lycalopex gymnocercus) and Domestic Dog (Canis lupus familiaris) Hybrid"
What a beutyful Discovery i love IT , Nature is cruel and unforgiven but she Always manage to surprise us.thanks guys
Glad you enjoyed it
Brilliant coverage and videography. Thank you so much.
Life is soooo hard for animals.
Thank you for this amazing video ! Please continue to share the pups story .. I was fortunate a few years ago to stay at the lodge and view the wild dog pups den .
Thank you! Will do!
People are over-thinking it. An influential member of the Tulon pack decided it wanted to adopt the pups, and the rest followed suit. Strange but true.
Name another species that would voluntarily take on parental care of another's young,
Besides gay penguins
@@lt7388 male eagle
@@lt7388 Elephants.
@@lt7388 humans
dogs
cats
@@lt7388I had a couple feral cat mama's move in under the porch and they took turns nursing each other's kittens. I saw my chickens share caring for their chicks too. Of course that's different. But I bet this isn't the only time something like this has happened. Primates will often steal another's offspring, but that can be deadly for the young if the kidnapper can't provide milk for them.
You’re a true master at this! Another brilliant video. 🎥
Amazing ! The wild dogs have eluded me on both visits to Londolozi, so it’s special to see the virtual safari. Thanks, Sean !
Sorry you were unable to see them on your visits but at least we can share this with you here.
How fascinating!
This is the GREATEST channel on YT!!! You are an AWESOME, AWESOME story teller. Thank you!! Keep em coming!
The big pack understands that these 3 pups were from another Alpha female. The pack kills off the Betas for reason. The big pack kept those 3 alive (adopted) because they are from a strong gene pool. Therefore, they will be of great value
Did the Tulane pack not have a litter this year or something? That’s the only thing that would explain this behavior. If the alpha female had her litter killed by the countless predators that may of been the reason for the adoption. Otherwise they would of undoubtedly been killed. Fingers crossed that the pups make it, but with the odds stacked against them we shall keep watching to find out.
The Toulon Pack have not had a litter in the last 2 years. We will share more in another video soon.
So amazing! Could they have felt that the other pack was having troubles feeding the pups and decided to help out the situation? Fascinating discovery! Updates should be interesting!
There are so many possibilities.
This is amazing footage of these dogs.. amazing job ❤❤😮
Amazing🙆🙆!!!
That's the African Bush! Just when you think you've seen it all something truly remarkable happens.
You are right!
Absolutely fascinating footage indeed. Wild animals will always teach us that we will never fully be able to predict their behaviour
I've heard of a tiger who fed his cubs when their mother died, because they were old enough to kind of survive a bit on their own.
I have a feeling these altruistic little beauties were thinking the same thing. The pups are old enough to become good hunters soon.
I had two females with litters at the same time ..the alpha did the same thing to the other pups back in 2010. #Wow #Champange
Thanks for sharing! Top channel from the sabi sands!!!!
Thanks so much.
Do the Toulon pack have their own pups at the moment? Or are they pupless right now?
No they dont
wow I had no idea dogs were that agressive towards other dogs and their babies it sad
First - an excellent video!
Then question: at 5:13 of this video - there is a white or silver shiny string around the injured male’s wound. Are you sure it is not a snare?
Good observation. There is one when you zoom in.
Pretty sure it's just dry grass. It moves way to "freely" and doesn't seem wrapped around
Very intriguing.
Theory--new DNA
That’s amazing! Species that assist each other with child-rearing know what’s up
Dogs are well known for adopting and caring for baby animals... Wild dogs are the most primal therefore it's logical to assume that instinct is inherent in them.
Amazing! Thanks for sharing!
The ups and downs this put me through!
Even solo those dogs are beasts at thriving . I also seen one a taking a cub which i think was a really small hyena
My guess is possibly since the larger pack was already familiar with the smaller one, they noticed the small pack on the brink of being snuffed out so they said "we have the space. why not" and started childnapping. And maybe the former aggression to the small pack was step 1 of assimilating them- "we were here first, so we're on top, you hear me?" Then if they submit, they'll be members (though I'm more doubtful of the birthmother being assimilated because of their matriarcal nature? Who knows)
I guess key information would be whether or not the larger pack had recently had any pups die or if they were caring for any of their own pups themselves. If there were pups already being cared for in the adoptive pack then these new pups would be competition, but if they have no current pups of their own then I can see why they might steal from another pack. In many ways pups are a resource, especially if someone else has put in the work of initially raising them and you get to swoop in when they're a little older.
I like to think they knew of the wounded male and so came to help take care of his pups. :)
I'm absolutely blown away by this never in my life have heard of this just wow 😮
It is fascinating
Excellent news and can't wait to hear more.... although I have not heard of this occurring with painted dogs I have with baboons stealing domestic dog puppies in Asir KSA.
cool footage thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching
Bao dia londolozi obrigado pelo vídeo parabem pelo seu trabalho bao domingo para vocês deu abençoe você e sua família
They are all unique individuals, just like us.
Wow ! This is stunning findings ! Great work 🎉
I remember National Geographic showing an TV episode about African dogs doing this in the 1990's.
What happened to pups parents?
Maybe I missed that?
Wonderful sighting. The wonders of nature. We are evolving so too must the animals.
Thanku ❤
Wow fascinating! Incredibly rare!
Thank you! Fantastic documentation and explanation!
African Wild Dogs have always been a fascinating example of team work and family among animal species. They're very coordinated, and it looks like they're even intelligent enough to not kill rival offspring, but instead choose to adopt them, likely to grow their own packs!
That's pretty amazing!
Amazing
Fascinating! Question: how do you know that one pup was actually the pup from the original 3-adult-led pack? Did you all tag them?
I would assume based on their markings. As each wild dog's markings are different than anothers
Hello LGR. That was such a very shocking and surprising video clip of the sneaky Toulon pack of 7 adult wild dogs take every single one of the unusually small litter of 3 pups from their biological parents and take them on as if they were their own brood. I'm sure that quite a lot of people would be left scratching their heads about as to why they did it.
But it's even more surprising that the bigger rival Toulon pack didn't kill any of the very young puppies there at all. I bet everyone there chewed their finger nails down to totally nothing, worrying about how the Toulon Pack adults would react to them. I know it is clear in the clip the parents of the pups made a few very valiant attempts to retrieve their own tiny brood and move them to another den somewhere else where they hoped they won't be discovered by rivals at all, but their attempts were all just very unsuccessful in getting the three approximately ten week old pups to more safety.
I'm also sure the three adults of the very small pack are very upset and distraught about the bigger seven strong Toulon pack stealing their own young puppies to another den they had possibly created together themselves and just adopt all three of them altogether there. Maybe the small three strong pack will be more successful in having another bigger brood of their own there next year.
But I suppose the 3 pups can all count their lucky stars that they weren't killed and eaten by the rival Toilon pack. I hope the injured male wild dog is making or has made a very good and full recovery and is now back to full strength. I don't think I'll ever understand why wild dogs who lose their pups to another pack don't come back into heat again within a week of losing their young and try for a fresh litter. Do you? I don't know what goes through the minds of the 3 pupless adults right now, but though I'm not saying it will happen, but if they're next seen out together again very soon in the next few days or so, and if they just happen to chance on the den the 7 adults of the sneaky Toulon pack are using to contain the pups, then I wonder if the 3 pupless adults and biological parents of the puppy napped youngsters will try and make a daring attempt to reclaim their puppies and run of with them in tow at high speed to another densite which will possibly hide the 3 small rascals completely. And by rights, they'd have every right to take the pups away with them as they're the very adults the puppies were born to and produced by from scratch. What do you think of and about that? I'd need your opinion so that I know what you all think there. Even if they did or were to come across the very den by coincidence, there is and would be a 50/50 chance of the puppies being reclaimed by their own family.
I don't know what you will be revealing in next Sunday's clip, but I'm often interested in the lion and leopard clips mainly. Even if she is or isn't seen in the clip, but a nice update on the elusive 5yr old Tsalala lioness and her 3 cubs will be so nice to hear from there. It has got to be at least 18 months to 2 years now since she last featured in a clip. Hasn't it? But I'd also like to get an update on the Mashaba female and the even more elusive 12-year-old Ndzanzeni female who hardly ever features in a video clip at all. I know she's goy young cubs to feed, look after, and protect, but it'll be nice if the younger of those 2 rarely seen female leopards made a very welcome reappearance to your property. Wouldn't it? As far as I know, she's the only surviving offspring of the late Dudley female, so she needs to raise and produce as many more cubs as possible to keep her and her late mother's legacy alive and going very well.
But another thing I'd like to see is a lion hunt involving the 4 big and impressively strong Ntsevu males and possibly also their only sister hunting a large herd of buffalo. It's been roughly 10 months now since I last saw that take place there, when they pulled down and killed a large adult female buffalo together underneath the pitch darkness one night.
Hope to hear from you shortly.
Robert 4.8.24
Crucial scientific insights 👏👏👏!
Lol my dog’s ears are perking up while I watch this. Let’s just say it wouldnt take much to kidnap her 😅
The Toulon pack seems to not have any pups of its own. Maybe it just needed to be caring. I hope the pups remain safe long term.
Incredible observation and footage.
It really is.
Hmm, I would be curious to know if the Toulon pack recently lost any pups of their own. I know that when some mothers in the animal kingdom lose their kids, they look for replacements because their instincts are still priming them to care for them (sheep, cows, cats, and horses will sometimes steal children if they lose their own). It seems like the Toulon pack already had a separate den prepared as well. I don't know if wild dogs reserve dens for pups, but it sounds like they only fit one adult with pups at a time, so I can't imagine they would have much use for one unless they were expecting pups.
so many questions. Is the Tulon pack older? To put it simply, is it a kick your children out of the nest the tribe is there to help them thrive.
Brood stealing is common with ants, could this provide more insight into the eusociality of Painteds?
Fascinating footage
Great story telling
They adopted them because they understand that their strength is in their numbers
with no inbreeding.
Dogs have personalities.
What is the origin on African painted dogs? Interesting,.
Wow... amazing ... never heard of anything like this. Could the three adults be a breakaway from the toulon pack?
Interesting stuff. Hope you will write it up and publish it 😊
I watched a documentary a few years ago where a beta female wanted to hwve her own pups so she left her pack. She hung out with spotted hyenas for a bit and even attempted to mate with a male. She later moved on and took over a jackal den, she chased away the parents and tried to nurse the babies. The jackals eventually got their babies back but it was bery interesting to see another instance of wild dogs adopting babies that arent theirs.
Amazing ❤❤
That was nice of the Pack of 3 to sign over their kids to the other pack.
I would like to know about the pack of 3 and their reaction to this