Sunak’s national service announcement instills sense of ‘hopelessness’ in young people
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- čas přidán 26. 05. 2024
- “I also want to just talk about young people. Many of them have had a really bad ordeal.”
The Conservative's National Service pledge for the upcoming general election shows that young people in the UK have been ‘let down’, says Baron’s Court Project’s Michael Angus.
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“Mandatory volunteering” is an oxymoron. Forced unpaid work is called slavery.
Yep. I bet sunaks kids would get an exemption
It's like at work when you are VolunTold....
The idea of national service isn't a bad one, but yea you can't really call it volunteering.
@@detectiverick9934 its been suggested that the "punishment" for not going is the parent being fined.... so yeah pretty much a "rich people can pay to not do it".
Nothing new to the British !
This government has failed the next generation. They need housing. Education. Health care. Opportunities. Not unpaid labour.
Also need money, lots of money. Because the world is still suffering a slowdown.
If young generations are not entitled to reasonable access to housing and fair wages, older generations are not entitled to protection.
The lol generation should do their duty, just as generations before them did and generations yet to come will have to do. As for housing etc, that is for the new invaders that the woke have encouraged to come here, not for you. Your job is to pay for their schools, hospitals, power stations and other infrastructure.
Why would I serve the country that hates me!
Thanks for your service. Where’s your rent money?
Im guessing you are anglosaxon as well then?
There is no country. Only a place where a bunch of people from all over the world live in.
@@olivere5497 kind of 50/50 Norman/Saxon in my genealogy,
a Pak telling whyte brits to sacrifice their lives . . . ..wow ...Kalergi plan here we come .
Why are people in think tanks so bad at thinking?
Because they can only see the walls of their tank
Pretty sure Rishi lives in a sensory deprivation tank
@@philclarke7712that implies that he has any sense TO deprive...
Any Journalist should ask 1 simple question of any representative of a "Think Tank" before they are allowed to continue with their diatribe against civilised society;
Who funds you?
Failure to answer honestly should end the interview at that point.
Exactly IFS are pretty bad - or is it only think tanks that go against your biases?
There is no sadder looking creature than a young Tory.
Yeah cos those young lefties are so cool.
Coming from a weak , woke labour supporters, who are also Islamist supporters?????????
He didn't need to speak a word, we all knew what he was about to say!
@@lovelybitofbugle219 Anything remotely left wing doesn't mean you're a mental leftist. Do you want slavery? We are heading towards an infringement on our human rights with the Tories. They wont let us protest, they won't let us speak and they want to force us to do unpaid work. That's slavery.
@@lovelybitofbugle219 idk a bunch of young people being accepting and embracing self-expression sounds pretty cool to me
First pick on the disabled, now the youngest teenager, awful 😖
Typical Tory policy of going after the weakest in society. Kids, the unemployed, the disabled, asylum seekers, students. They are cowards, just like the cowards who vote for them. Anyone vulnerable is fair game.
Vote out to help out. 😅😅😅😅
🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
Funny 😊
Very good
Good point...
Concervative policy: " Let's punish the youth"
And the disabled
Everything and everyone
Sunak has totally lost the plot.
They’re trying to ban adults from smoking but they want kids on the frontline.
*PRIORITIES.*
"My body, my choice"
You should probably quit
They are an attractive proposition.
Thank you
They know what it means: Fight for oligarchs to ensure they don't lose their billions as you are expendable.
Guess you’re ok with living on your knees under Russian rule.
the bourgeoisie at it again
ofc
'I was a nerd at 17' says 27-year-old nerd. 😂
This smacks of tory desperation. It will end up being free work by kids for the government.
As opposed to free money for no work by the government?
@@mlguy8376That's better
@@mlguy8376like the free money the middle class got to sit on their backsides during COVID and do nothing? While essential workers had to keep working and got zero benefits for it... Oh and equally had to pay extra in the long run to help the country recover from?
Guess this country just doesn't like to reward hard work but instead just funnel the funds to people who do little to nothing in reality 🙂
The poor kids will have to join the army as they can't afford to give up weekends for unpaid work. Rich kids will doubtless be parachuted into the best voluntary jobs that will look good on their CV's, shadowing consultant doctors etc.
@@james970027 well the taxes we pay account for way more in the long run, we get zero benefits as well. Should be more upset with the upper class who really make poorer people pay.
Young people did their national service when they shielded indoors to protect the older population during the pandemic. They gave up their best years and they did it without complaint
Two years isn’t much , and was totally unnecessary.
Well, my dad did national service in the 50s and I'm pretty sure it was two years... It's a lot of time when you're 17... 2 years at 49 flies by!
@@user-nt7zo9er5tnecessary for what? You still believe you survived a pandemic??? 🤣 Wow
This statement speaks more about the strawberry generation than anything else out there.
LoL
Sunak should be in jail.
The young people won't be voting for Tories
BUT WILL BE FIGHTING A WAR AT HOME OR ABROAD
The only reason to debate this is as a thought experiment. It’s a proposal from a party that is going to be unemployed very soon.
You think Labour will be any different? Rishi is breaking the bad news cos he's out the door.
just wait for the draft...
If I understand correctly Labour supports this bad idea.
@@fuzielectron5172 you understand incorrectly.
@@sarahbarrett1247 I don't recall where I seen it reported as such, but we will see....
Why stop with National Service for under 18s. Over 60 and retired, welcome to "MandaTORY Mentoring". A weekend a month, going out into community and working...and if you don't they reduce State Pension. Cause this Govt have yet to throw every cruel and unusual policy at the wall and see what sticks yet. They really are just speaking without thinking, off the cuff, policy making now.
Don't give them ideas..
Brilliant idea dean - since the older group seem so in favour of this, let's make everyone do national service retired or not, they need to do their country proud and have valuable skills to pass onto the younger generation 🇬🇧
Sure that won't change their opinions on the matter at all seeing as though the majority never did a day of "national service" in their lives 😂
Sunak should be forced to spend two years in military service.
Surely they’ll also include a Grandparent Brigade 👵
@@james970027 no we're not
We had YTS when we was kids. Work for a 1/5 of the wages in a factory. That was Tories too.
Thats not YTS, but I guess thats a demonstration of your ability to recall the disastrous Labour government.
60 hour week sometimes but I usually worked at least 50 hours a week for £110 a week, I worked at a fish farm and my boss was a multi-millionaire. He showed me how to sweep once lol.
@@Stroopwaffe1 in 1996 I was on £23 a week for 40 hours. But it was in a microchip factory so I was happy just being there being a geek.
Mine was in 93-94.
Oh we also had apprenticeships when I was younger in the early 2000s that paid around £1.80 an hour for a 40 hour week (worked out to be £100 a week on the dot which has to cover my travel aka a £72.50 bus pass, and food) which was allowed with it being an apprenticeship, they also now still pay younger workers less than the minimum average and then wonder why they aren't incentivised to rush into work.
Frankly I wouldn't recommend anyone under 21 working unless it's for a company that ignores age wage brackets as it's a fundamental waste of their time.
Put the priminsters kid's in the military let them encourage everyone else
The rich kids will be able to get out!
The Fortunate Sons?
You will be fine then.
They really won't and remember we have the heirs to our throne join the armed forces. But you probably don't count them even though they were amongst the richest kids in the country and they did it without being made to
@@cfi2388no the royals don't count, they are raised with far different responsibilities (or lack there of) to where their "job" requires no exception in order to stay a royal of higher standing.
The royals have no choice as they are in the public eye funded by the public purse. Sure some MPs children's will be happy after being brainwashed for years. But I can assure you, there will be many rich kids who will find a way out!
A young Tory is the saddest thing on the planet, you just know that they go on to become even more repugnant over time
Better than the loser Labourites.
@@stewartkingsley A triggered CON acting like a juvenile, who'd have thought it...
@@In_Paradiso58 So deep In-Parasito, and not juvenile at all. 🤣
Sunak should lead from the front & volunteer for a stint in a trench on the front lines in Ukraine
You first, its your idea to visit Ukraine.
Let’s ask toff boy what he thinks of introducing national service lol
Comprehensive kids weren't you you're obviously then officer or in charge that's what they're like it makes me sick it won't be getting people all together it'll be zone enough and then we know them disgusting people
A toff who said he would find part of the military interesting yet could still sign up. But he wouldn't in a million years.
@@Joe-og6br he wouldn't come close to passing the physical fitness tests. he's just a posh mummy's boy desperate to impress his toff daddy.
Indeed, let's hear from that rising rap artiste "Knifer". And is it just for boys? No? A word, then, from Birhal, from Iraq, who speaks almost no English.
@@stephenpowers51 you know it's a lot easier to just say you're a racist.
If he's so interested in cyber defense why doesn't he join the military? I hate it when people who've never served say they would like to have. Well why didn't you bloody well join then?
They couldn't find uniforms small enough for him.
Imagine claiming ypur opposition has no plan then throwing this excrement at the wall
Lol. Good one.
Record mental illness in the young, unlikely to ever own their own home, uni fees leaving them hugely in debt and now national service, yeah that'll make things better for the young.
Absolutely do one tory boy.
Anyone who thinks young people will welcome this scheme is bonkers. If cyber defence is needed then employ people to do it.
I'm going to prison instead thanks
Wouldn't it be nice if we had a proper Army Navy and Air force? 🤔 Oh but the Tories trashed all of that over the last 14 years 🗑
I mean they gave 30 billion to Ukraine I'm sure that helped our military and future military budget and I'm sure the 12 billion rishi is pledging to Israel is gonna ensure the safety of brits here and help our military
@@JorgeF69 isnt it nice that we're now funding genocide.
Wouldn't it be nice if a proper Army, Navy and Air force didnt cost the public an arm and a leg? Guess what, it does and if you want that then you have to divert funds from the NHS or another part of public services. Yep the ones everyone is complaining about dont have enough money.
@@stewartkingsley but there’s plenty of money for dodgy contracts?
@@rogerthepigeon2950that is across the parties and across the years. Not one party has paid the behind the sheds or have beneficial groups that are not the common folk.
"I was really nerdy at 17"
So was I but I needed to be paid so I was working two 12 hour shifts at Sports Direct.
Our entire weekend economy is propped up by 16-18 year olds working minimum wage zero hour contracts.
16-18 years olds now automatically get higher education. I never had that option when I was 17.
@@stewartkingsleyyou had wages that could afford you a place to sleep... This generation doesn't
dady freyr
@@stewartkingsley whataboutery doesn't invalidate my point
@@hollyrowlands6943 😉
At 17, I went to University.
I had coursework to do at the weekends - I worked 6 days a week every Christmas and summer holidays while at University (only off on Sundays). Would I have been expected to turn down pay to go and do this?
My daughter's at University now. She's working at the weekends because loans haven't kept pace with inflation. Her living expenses loan doesn't even cover her rent. Is she supposed to give up her weekend job for nothing.;
This is unthought out nonsense from a party that has consistently brought us non-thought out nonsense.
It's completely thought out when you think everyone can afford the occasional unpaid weekend of work.
At least it makes sure no one aged 18 will vote Tory - another crazy notion !
Unfortunately the most people who don't vote are the younger ones. The coffin dodging boomers hate the youth and they will be filling the polling station's up to condemn the youth
Or parents like my sister, who has a 13 year old daughter and 15 year old son.
Yeah,no disabled people or young people will vote tory, pick on sickest people & youngest people, unbelievable
Deepcut ! No parents will allow their son or daughter to be exposed to bullying and suicide.
Still many unanswered questions.
now mostly knocked down and sold off to developers probably mates of mates
Historically it’s been challenging to get younger people to vote. This policy will certainly motivate 18 year to get out and vote on the 4th July and the overwhelming majority will be against this ill thought out and desperate policy…..
The Tory campaign started poorly and they have managed to make it worse with this policy.
Madness! What has this country done for young people? What future do they have?
Yes, better to do nothing for them and leave them at home. Dont want them to cry about their feelings.
what have you done?
@@chrimbus71 quite a bit public service but not going to share it with you!
@@splatten8597 So you did publc service, and yet want to give up on young people as they have no future "what future do they have". Just give up i say....thats the attitude.
All of Society forced to militarize for the National Interest.
Can you tell what it is yet?
Its called preparing for war. Other countries are doing the same.
Our country has nukes, for this very reason.
@@stewartkingsley wrong, guess again
I love all the older people that never had to do it and probably have never volunteered to do anything wanting to force this on 18 year olds... who are legally adults. This is an absolutely ridiculous policy.
How will it work, if it's one weekend a month in for example the fire service, a highly skilled profession that requires constant training? Who will supervise these completely untrained, potentially unwilling young adults? Are professionals in front line services expected to also "volunteer" train these people and take time away from their already overstretched jobs... It makes no sense what so ever.
They're too used to interviewers not bothering to ask the details. They say 'trust us it's costed' and no one bothers to ask who's supposed to be in charge of a bunch of teenagers who are facing prison if they don't obey orders. Can't even get schools working properly and they're going to introduce a massive uncosted policy that needs a massive amount of staff to look after teenagers who don't want to be there and are being forced to do unpaid labour. I suppose anyone who can't see the difficulty in that is idiotic enough to vote for the party who allegedly thinks this is so important that they didn't bother with it during the decade plus they had in power and only mentioned it after calling an election and parliament was prorogued.
The nerdy guy would be interested up until day one of basic training.
RISHI PLASE GO WITH YOUR NATIONAL SERVICE IDEAS. PLEASE PLEASE GO.
He's going
"cyber defense" ... seriously. You have some very smart people who are educated and have ability that do "cyber defense". That's like getting some kid off the street to do your plumbing ...
They'd probably do a better job than most plumbers 😅
Tories had already lost my lifelong (60+ years) vote. Forcing my son into national service at a time he is going to be working hard to get a degree is nonsensical and just confirms to me they've completely lost the plot and are continuing their move past the right into the extreme right
Is that what they have said? Or is it Labour speaking?
Life long Tory eh? Bet you are glad Corbyn never got in ay?
@@stewartkingsley Sunak used the term National Service, not Labour.
He may try to backpedal now he's seen the reaction but the damage is done.
It's only a confirmation for me, I already got left in the middle as the Conservatives moved to the right with the likes of Patel, Braverman and Truss.
For the first time in 50 years of voting, I may stay at home this time.
@@olivere5497 Certainly am. But Labour doesn't do it for me either now. I am disenfranchised
@@NickBR57 Green or Lib Dem, Independent, whatever is closest to your heart, but not voting empowers those you are against.
If you do go you can have a complimentary doorway to sleep in if you get back, *IF you get back.*
But not a tent.
Sunak should be placed on the frontlines with outdated kit. Let Russia or Israel deal with this little issue.
So yet again a young person is just some second class person that should be bullied by the government into doing something against their will. (I am not young). I guess it's time to quote a bully; "I'm big, you're small, you're wrong, I'm right, and there's nothing you can do about it!" - Rishi Trunchbull.
Were you forced to go to school?
@@stewartkingsley Stewart I think that is a fallacy of false equivalence you imply in that some basic education is vital to all people but mandatory national service is only vital to Sunak's election campaign. LOL
@@stewartkingsley Yes. And if I didn't my parents got fined.
Work in the homeless sector. We will never accept this. The pressure on already low funding, the paper work and quite frankly the risk of brining completely inexperienced young people to work with vulnerable people is far too high. Not only that due to there younger age potentially dangerous and predatory individuals could be ushered into positions of power over vulnerable people with very little safeguarding due to the pressures on staffing. The British charity sector isn’t this fluffy thing we do serious work with extraordinarily vulnerable people. It’s not all youth cafes and befriending FFS!
Oh so you are saying that the homeless should be avoided because they are all dangerous. Maybe you want them all locked up so that they cant endanger the public. So sad that people like you exist. You should be thinking how people could be trained to help those who have had a difficult time in their life. Its easy to say no, but no does not get anyone anywhere.
Have you thought that trench warfare would help thin out your workload?
Young Farquhar de Piffle can always escape by spending the season in the families second estate in the Maldives using one of his many passports.
Brilliant. I forwarded him. Couldn’t listen to his BS
It's like the last piece of horse manure that the tories are throwing at the wall. It's completely crazy and unworkable.
Community service - but no need to commit a crime first. That's the Conservative party today!
The. Crime is being poor…you silly goose…
Young Tory grasping at straws. Well done Times, you found the young person that accurately represents the young adults of the nation, lol. C'mon!
Nice idea but which incompetent company will be making billions in tax payers money?
Labour
Probably Rishi's wife and in laws...
Compulsory community service is a punishment imposed for low-level criminality. What does it say about you if you make everybody do it, and why would it then be a deterrent to crims?
If I was in the military, I would be hugely offended that the Tories equate a years’ military service with 12 weekends’ litter picking.
No our late queen trained as a mechanic
It's worth pointing out that a most people in the armed services end up with mental health problems. The Tories think the army is Carry On Sergeant
The only way you can get someone to publicly support any Tory idea is to ask a think tank. They should have to declare their financial backers at the start of every video or tv show they’re on or not be allowed on.
In fact, this particular think tank is just a wing of the Tory Party, so of course they support this idea! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onward_(think_tank)
@@James-gc5if I didn't know that. You know I don't even live in the UK anymore, I haven't for a long time.. in fact I only lived there for a short period of time. I was born there (but moved very young) so I have a British passport.
The only reason I gained an interest in British politics is after Brexit occurred, I wanted to find out what is going on and I've found understanding the British media and political landscape extremely interesting ever since.
@@kiriakoz I didn't know either until I looked it up! Was expecting a Tufton Street outfit, but it turns out it's literally just the Tories supporting themselves.
@@James-gc5if thank you for educating me, sir. There's plenty I don't know, so always happy to learn.
All the fuss about this is moot. The crazy party aren't getting back in.
🤣🤣🤣SOOOO FUNNY...who's gonna fight for this country when it's obvious they hate us..
The neo-british who keep paroting 'diversity is our strength'
Maybe treat young people like you know, people, instead of consumers and product users maybe they would feel less hopeless. When they leave university, if they get that far, they have a huge debt burden to clear, then extortionate rents to pay as they can't get mortgages and then food bills going up. Supporting corporations is what Tories do but corporations can't vote.
Education❌
Mandatory voluntary child labour ✅
Education is the only thing sector that has performed well under this govt
Here's an idea. All these people on here are slagging off today's youngsters and have never done National Service, make every adult under 60 fighting ready and do a years training. Non compliance fine them £500.
A £500 quid fine would be an astonishing bargain, around 4 days work at minimum wage or a couple of hours for a decent lawyer. Way cheaper than giving up a year of your life.
This isn't designed to appeal to the young adults it will effect, as they won't be voting conservative anyway, it's to shore up the elderly vote that they are currently losing.
The old sending the young to die, no change there
It’s easy, bring back apprenticeships.
This will gain very few votes but will lose an awful lot. Brilliant!
Serving society/military? What are the migrants going to do? Sit in rent free accommodation? 😂😂😂😂
That’s the point. Why should my kids and protect all these migrants that couldn’t care about us
@@TobyWatson-ey9ji they are playing the numbers game.
are the "migrants" in the room with you right now? sad little englander.
Well if that doesn’t get the youngsters voting nothing will.
Micheal Angus had some very good points on why this scheme will not work based on his work in an actual charity. Contrast that with the pound-shop Micheal Gove wannabe who had no good points for why it’s a good thing and works for a shady think tank that pretends it’s a charity
On the front page on The Times last week the headline read: police told not to arrest anymore people as the prisons are full up. So who how and what can they enforce??
Just when you think the Tories haven’t quite reached the limit of swivel-eyes bonkers, they say this. Well done, you are officially even crazier than Reform
I was an apprentice at the age of 18, on a very small wage. I used to work an extra Saturday every week to make sure I had enough to pay my mother suitable rent, to make sure I could still feed myself and run a car to get to work. If you told me back then after working 6 days a week that I would also work a Sunday! I wouldn't have had the energy or dive to finish my apprenticeship. So I worry for those younger people already in employment or have a family that this will be a responsibility too far!
There aren't any young people who have families to pay for, that's a thing of the past, they can barely meetup outside of the internet for dating. And since apprenticeships are a thing of the past, overworking them is hardly a concern.
But lets not be fooled this isn't about motivation or opportunity, there is something coming and this is how you start to move the public in a militaristic direction.
@@_Melian_Dialogue_ As they say the DEVIL is in the detail.
The strange thing is that the TA is growing currently. All that is going to happen is the kids who join the TA will just do this instead.
Also we currently have 720,000 apprentices in England. I guess that would be a good start to growing a force.
How would they get these people in who hate our country!
'Volunteer' working in cyber defence learns how to make a smashing cup of tea.
A 3,000 word dissertation on why the milk goes in first 🤣
Mandatory service for anyone looking to go into politics? How about mandatory employment in government to qualify for university education.
He’s trying to lose.
ZERO SEATS
They’re so out of touch it’s unreal. 🤦♂️
Sunak desperately wants to be in California before the start of the American school year. I don't blame him for wanting to make the transition easier for his daughters, but I do wish he'd just be honest about it.
It's the only thing he's done competently then.
He doesn’t have to try!
This and previous governments have ignored the British people on many concerning issues but mostly mass immigration legal and illegal. This has caused many people to yes love our country and our values but distrust our politicians who think they know best for us and people now think well why should I possibly put my life in danger when its the politicians who make terrible decisions.
Illegal immigration will increase with Labour. Legal immigration will reduce when people pay more taxes and the unemployed get off their backsides.
If they give me affordable housing. I’m talking affordable 2 bed houses that are 3x the minimum wage tops, that can only be bought by first time buyers then I’d happily volunteer.
That the new way to get free labour while politicians are enriching themselves
Who said it was free?
Good idea! Get them ready to fight the boat people.
Get “them” ready. What about yourself?
@@michaelc3051 I am in a wheelchair so will not be any use.
This just proves the Tories have given up, they'd never propose this if they thought they'd have to carry it out.
Full on crazy 😂😂😂
This morning they announced that Parents of 18 year Adults would face 'sanctions' if they refuse.
No doubt they'll pass a Rwanda-like law rewriting reality in order to block access to the courts.
Why? At 18 they are adults. What has their refusal got to do with their parents?
Vote out to help out!
You know when you're 14yo and you dare your friends to say the most insane BS to the teacher? That's the Tories in power....
Admiral Alan West, a former chief of the naval staff, said it was a “bonkers” plan which would deplete the defence budget. Richard Dannatt, a former chief of the general staff, said the proposal was “electoral opportunism”. “The costs of this would be considerable in terms of trainers and infrastructure. This task cannot just be imposed on the armed forces as an extra thing to do.”
What's wrong with Sunak?
Cackling his head off everywhere.
Cannon fodder for NATO and the profit of the military industrial complex?
Serious point, national service conscripts wouldnt be used for front line combat if the Tories are actually prepping for war.
They'd be used for keeping law and order her after a nuclear attack.
Burning mountains of corpes, rounding up healthy adults into work gangs.
THESE MPS didnot do any thing for are kids let the MP'S JOIN UP LEVE THE KIDS ALONG
Seb Payne: "I *WAS *fantastically nerdy..."
I can't...
A final word on this subject: "National Service never did me no harm!" - DCI Gene Hunt
Well it's not for everyone I went to join up when I was a kid they wanted me but.... it wasnt for me!! It takes a certain type to join....I was far to independent....If kids want to join it should be there choice it was ours! It's a good life and very disciplined but it should be because they want to be there not because there forced.....I have nothing but utter respect for the forces but I personally feel it would be easier for them to train kids that want to be part of them.....
Epilogue - "No"
No national service on Mars!
You weren't sent to Naziville Ukraine
And look what our soldiers fought for everybody else's freedom unfortunately all government DEPARTMENT are failing or failed
US V THEM. And I am not talking about Russia.
"Bring back national service" was an ancient old chestnut in the 70's-it had no chance then and has even less now. WHY did Sunak dredge this up ? NOBODY has talked about it , there are serious issues that need addressing.......Starmer is equally useless and clueless but this has given Sunak a clear lead in the irrelevant political non issues card.
Cybersecurity?! That would require serious security clearance. Which is fine if you're somebody going to work there full time, but it's not going to be cost effective for people working for one weekend a month. It's also a graduate job, not the sort of thing an 18 year old hobbyist gets to do.
I looked up what Seb actually did in the way of unpaid work when he was young. He edited the student newspaper, ran the student radio station, and worked for free in Tory HQ. That's not somebody who cares about public service- that's somebody burnishing their CV for a career in media/politics. I'm genuinely happy it worked for him, but why shouldn't other people be fair to do whatever they want to advance their careers, like he did?
We already have millions of people in this country who volunteer. And who do unpaid caring. This policy is nuts and just more desperate attempts to throw some red meat to the hard right
I think the age gap for this service should be increased to 40yrs 😂
They can increase the age to 90 for all I care, I will not be complying either way
@@nicksloan8860 when is compulsory, what will you do?
@@emmanuel64042 I will say no, I will not comply. Have we really learned nothing over the last 4 years, if you comply with tyranny, you get more of it
Theyre having a laugh
Times Radio conspicuously not saying at the end of the clip that the 'children of the corn' interviewee is a former journalist from the Telegraph, Financial Times and the Spectator, or mentioning that Onward is a right wing think tank. He was shortlisted as Tory candidate in Selby & Ainsty and tried for a seat but failed in this election.
This is why they stopped National Service back in the day. The kids didn't want to be there, the army didn't want them there, and it dawned on everyone that millions of conscripted kids peeling potatoes was pointless. 🥔
But surely most people realise the ridiculousness of this? So when it comes to consequences, to which extent can they be implemented? If people wont care about it🤷♂️
Words like barrel, scraping, bottom, Straws and clutching, spring to my mind. Oh and desperate.
Labour will just get you to pay more tax, its simpler that way.
Labour should close all the tax loopholes for Tory billionaire donors immediately. It would raise a fortune for our destroyed public services.
Cannot stand Sebastian Payne. He is an out-of-touch nerd and hopefully will not make it to the next parliament as an MP.
Sunak thinking the government can parent your kids better than you can.
All branches of the armed forces are extremely technical today. No conscript could or would learn his job in one year, or even two. Of course, if you only want cannon fodder...
(RAF 1963-1987)
Basic training is 48 weeks for 16-17 year olds, you could probably just do that and then stick on a few weeks of extra training/practice for the 18 y/o conscripts
Probably why the numbers have fallen.
@@jamiedodger1235😂 no it's not liar.. 10 weeks last I checked
Exactly, its extreme babysitting.
@klaus1085 If you're aged under 17 years and 6 months, you'll do your Basic Training at the Army Foundation College Harrogate for 49 weeks