I am not ashamed to admit that I am one of those people who absolutely wants to own real life Oathkeeper and Oblivion keyblades. No matter how old I get, my teenage years will always hold sway over me.
Fun fact: the reason Oathkeeper/Oblivion get positioned as his/her's keyblades is because (according to an interview from one of the Omnibus books, IIRC) they represent Sora's connection with Kairi and Riku, respectively. Also, Mushu originally wasn't the last Summon. There's a disabled menu option for a Bahamut summon, though re-enabling it just crashes the game if you try to select it.
I actually forgot that Hollow Bastion was meant to the be the "Final Fantasy" world. Honestly, I wish each world was a mix of one "Disney" world and one "Final Fantasy" world. I said it before, but for a crossover game, I feel like there's not a lot crossing over. I remember a lot of complaints about the more recent games was the hard Disney focus, but with this LP, I guess I realized that it was always like this.
Absolutely. As a teen this game was sold to me as a mix of Final Fantasy and Disney and I was all ready for that and got cheated by a FF cherry on top of a big ol Disney sundae.
TBH for what Ive seen this really doesnt feel like a proper crossover of Final Fantasy and Disney. Like Aerith/Yuffi/Leon on this are tertiary characters *at best*, and they are the ones that actually do anything, and as you said you dont even visit any FF world apart from Hallow Bastion, which we are only told it is after the fact. Ill admit I really dont know a lo of FF to really judge things fairly but it feels to me its more of a vibes things than anything else. Are all the games like this? From what I heard its mostly Disney characters and OCs that get the spotlight
@@JeedyJay It's just how people talk about it. It's why, as the series went on, Final Fantasy mattered less and less - the point was always "Square Enix characters in Disney worlds" and as KH went on their own cast was big enough to carry that weight.
@@emiliobustamante2401 In the last two mainline games Dream Drop Distance and KH3 there are literally no FF characters other than the silent moogle shops. KH2 has a lot more Final Fantasy (which as an adult feels like a decision to shill Advent Children more than anything) in it but again its only in Hollow Bastion and Hercules. I dont think 358/2 Days had much FF in it either.
I'm not going to lie, every convention I go to, I walk past the sword booths and think "Should I? Should I actually buy a Keyblade?". It hasn't happened yet, but eventually I probably will and I will have to explain that decision to family and friends for years to come.
There's a store in my local mall that has some keyblades and other fake swords for sale and I'm seriously tempted to buy one. I think they have Oblivion and the Ultima keyblade.
To add to Oathkeeper and Oblivion's importance, the teeth part of each key is actually supposed to vaguely look like a Japanese kanji: yami (闇 - darkness) for Oblivion, and hikari (光 - Light) for Oathkeeper.
Oblivion was always my favorite one as a kid. Guilty as charged. I believe I even had it during the dragon fight, but seeing where its gotten here, I have no idea how I have that memory.
The notion that Genie has his own target reticles is hilarious to me. It could have been anything vaguely target-like. Maybe smoky and wispy like the rest of his aesthetic. Maybe curly and gold like the rest of the filigree in Agrabah. No. It's just his stupid goddamn grin. And it makes it look like all of the enemies have Genie's face on their shoulders. Which would be horrifying if it wasn't so funny.
its more like, the warp hole they went through bypasses the horde of heartless ships that were now guarding Hollow Bastion due to the Flood of Darkness. Less a "secret backdoor" and more a "secret underground cellar entrance"
to be fair to the "his/her" status of oblivion and oathkeper that's kinda because they represent Riku and Kairi respectively. which is why i'm still to this day salty that they were given to Roxas who does not have that connection. Oblivion could maybe be forgiven but Oathkeeper is just... dumb.
@@Armongorest maybe. but it doesn't change that the keychain on the key making it turn into oathkeeper is Kairis lucky charm that she loans to Sora as she makes him promise to bring it back to her. that's the oath in the name his promise that he will return to her. but sure give it to Roxas.
I guess it's because the Heartless never really go away, but it is kind of funny having the whole "once you do this, the walls between worlds will go back up and everyone will be separated again and Gummi ships won't work" when that literally just never happens and I don't recall it even getting brought up as a possibility again.
They do some wishy-washy handwaving about it in KH2. Something like the old Gummi Ship paths are all locked now so you have to unlock new ones. But it's like 1 or 2 lines and absolutely does not explain even half the questions you might have about the repercussions of this event
The original jp kingdom hearts had a bunch of places where it struggled to load (particularly in the gummi stages) and i assume loading in the 3d portraits over the world map was one of those and there may be some pre-coded delay that accounted for that.
The general idea of the Behemoth as a huge monster you have to climb onto in order to even do damage does get a redo in KH2 as an optional boss. Whether that boss is better or worse than this one is up for debate, but it is certainly is much more imposing and spectacular (in the literal sense that it is a spectacle to see)
Interestingly, at 16:37, Grant asks why Aurora's dress is blue when it should be pink. From my understanding Aurora is typically portrayed in a purple dress since the release of her movie as a sort of compromise between the pink vs blue dress fight the fairies had over her dress color.
Was that pronunciation of "obstackles" at 8:41 an "O Brother Where Art Thou?" reference? Like how the blind prophet says it, which is echoed by Delmar afterward.
fwiw the reasoning is that Oathkeeper and Oblivion are meant to be symbolic of Sora's bond to Kairi and Riku, respectively. Though I suppose that means couples should carry the one they feel corresponds to their partner instead of themself.
After watching 22 episodes of this, and at least two other people play through the game... i just can't understand why adults like this game. The gameplay looks terrible, the controls look terrible, the story is awful and childish, the characters are ugly and bland, the voice acting is quite poor, the message is simplistic and childish again. It's bad to me the same way every Sonic game ever made is comprehensively, irredeemably bad. There is not one single thing in this game, and the rest of the series, that is even the slightest bit appealing to me. Maybe it's because I never played it when I was younger? I mean, I loved Disney movies when I was a kid. I was the perfect age to enjoy the golden era of Disney before the modern stuff came about. I killed my Fantasia tape because I watched it so much. I truly don't get it. So why am I watching it? I've got fuck all else to do. Why not.
I have an idea for kingdom hearts... what if we opened it up to other franchises other then Disney/Pixar... think of it Sora, Donald and Goofy be in the Mushroom Kingdom, Mobius, Hyrule... or dare I say Equestria?
Oh god, I have now realized what might be a horrible fact: We have the Proud Boys extreme right group in America whose name comes from the Aladdin musical number "Proud of your boy"... What if the Oathkeepers are partly inspired by the keyblade? Dear god no
Proud Boys thing sounds like a thing you would point out to make fun of them, like ha ha your terrorist organization has the same name as a mediocre song from a disney movie but NO, thats literally why theyre called that!!! Its the ultimate cringe
I love that Chip is using this LP as a platform to air a twenty year old grievance
I am not ashamed to admit that I am one of those people who absolutely wants to own real life Oathkeeper and Oblivion keyblades. No matter how old I get, my teenage years will always hold sway over me.
Same
As someone who isn't that into KH: they *are* pretty cool
as someone who owns both a oath keeper and oblivion hard foam keyblade
keep them horizontal, gravity will bend them in about a month
The final Trinity Mark should be everyone going in for a group hug.
"Now why is her dress blue when it ought to be pink?"
He's going to love the opening of Kingdom Hearts II.
The opening... after a couple of hours with you-know-who.
If he’s asking about Aurora, the answer is that her dress changes colors in Sleeping Beauty
I like that Kingdom Hearts has a Heartless version of the classic Final Fantasy enemy, Behemoth. It even does the meteors!
Fun fact: the reason Oathkeeper/Oblivion get positioned as his/her's keyblades is because (according to an interview from one of the Omnibus books, IIRC) they represent Sora's connection with Kairi and Riku, respectively.
Also, Mushu originally wasn't the last Summon. There's a disabled menu option for a Bahamut summon, though re-enabling it just crashes the game if you try to select it.
the genie face lock-on looks like a censor mark
Preeeetty sure the white Trinity mark is supposed to be a three musketeers thing, like the all for one thing they got going on
I do like how the Simba summon starts with him emerging from the clouds just like his father.
I actually forgot that Hollow Bastion was meant to the be the "Final Fantasy" world. Honestly, I wish each world was a mix of one "Disney" world and one "Final Fantasy" world. I said it before, but for a crossover game, I feel like there's not a lot crossing over. I remember a lot of complaints about the more recent games was the hard Disney focus, but with this LP, I guess I realized that it was always like this.
Absolutely. As a teen this game was sold to me as a mix of Final Fantasy and Disney and I was all ready for that and got cheated by a FF cherry on top of a big ol Disney sundae.
TBH for what Ive seen this really doesnt feel like a proper crossover of Final Fantasy and Disney. Like Aerith/Yuffi/Leon on this are tertiary characters *at best*, and they are the ones that actually do anything, and as you said you dont even visit any FF world apart from Hallow Bastion, which we are only told it is after the fact. Ill admit I really dont know a lo of FF to really judge things fairly but it feels to me its more of a vibes things than anything else. Are all the games like this? From what I heard its mostly Disney characters and OCs that get the spotlight
Was Disney X Final Fantasy how Square actually pitched it? Or was that just how people talked about it?
@@JeedyJay It's just how people talk about it. It's why, as the series went on, Final Fantasy mattered less and less - the point was always "Square Enix characters in Disney worlds" and as KH went on their own cast was big enough to carry that weight.
@@emiliobustamante2401 In the last two mainline games Dream Drop Distance and KH3 there are literally no FF characters other than the silent moogle shops. KH2 has a lot more Final Fantasy (which as an adult feels like a decision to shill Advent Children more than anything) in it but again its only in Hollow Bastion and Hercules. I dont think 358/2 Days had much FF in it either.
I'm not going to lie, every convention I go to, I walk past the sword booths and think "Should I? Should I actually buy a Keyblade?". It hasn't happened yet, but eventually I probably will and I will have to explain that decision to family and friends for years to come.
There's a store in my local mall that has some keyblades and other fake swords for sale and I'm seriously tempted to buy one. I think they have Oblivion and the Ultima keyblade.
24:50 Truly a question to rival "Can love bloom on the battlefield?"
To add to Oathkeeper and Oblivion's importance, the teeth part of each key is actually supposed to vaguely look like a Japanese kanji: yami (闇 - darkness) for Oblivion, and hikari (光 - Light) for Oathkeeper.
The implication with the big double doors at Traverse Town is it's some kind of gummi ship harbor on the other side where the boat is docked.
22:04 they misread the manual and thought they had ELEPHANTAL resistances
Oblivion was always my favorite one as a kid. Guilty as charged. I believe I even had it during the dragon fight, but seeing where its gotten here, I have no idea how I have that memory.
Personally I was a fan of Daggerfall, but they cut it from Final Mix.
@@XanthinZarda I can’t seem to find any pictures or reference to that one, are you sure that was its name? :o
@@FiggityJones It's an Elder Scrolls joke. Daggerfall and Oblivion are both names of games in that series.
@@poke548 that explains the Google results I was getting lmao, thank you 😅
Hollow Bastion is the Final Fantasy VII house!
FF House... if you know, you know, and if you do, Im so sorry...
Poor Zack.
(I know. And I wish I didn't.)
The notion that Genie has his own target reticles is hilarious to me. It could have been anything vaguely target-like. Maybe smoky and wispy like the rest of his aesthetic. Maybe curly and gold like the rest of the filigree in Agrabah.
No. It's just his stupid goddamn grin. And it makes it look like all of the enemies have Genie's face on their shoulders. Which would be horrifying if it wasn't so funny.
... So... the secret backdoor back into Hollow Bastion is... the exact same front door you went in through the first time?
its more like, the warp hole they went through bypasses the horde of heartless ships that were now guarding Hollow Bastion due to the Flood of Darkness.
Less a "secret backdoor" and more a "secret underground cellar entrance"
to be fair to the "his/her" status of oblivion and oathkeper that's kinda because they represent Riku and Kairi respectively.
which is why i'm still to this day salty that they were given to Roxas who does not have that connection. Oblivion could maybe be forgiven but Oathkeeper is just... dumb.
By the technicality of Roxas being Sora's Nobody, he does have a connection with Riku and Kairi still... its reaching, but it is technically correct.
@@Armongorest maybe. but it doesn't change that the keychain on the key making it turn into oathkeeper is Kairis lucky charm that she loans to Sora as she makes him promise to bring it back to her.
that's the oath in the name his promise that he will return to her.
but sure give it to Roxas.
I guess it's because the Heartless never really go away, but it is kind of funny having the whole "once you do this, the walls between worlds will go back up and everyone will be separated again and Gummi ships won't work" when that literally just never happens and I don't recall it even getting brought up as a possibility again.
They do some wishy-washy handwaving about it in KH2. Something like the old Gummi Ship paths are all locked now so you have to unlock new ones. But it's like 1 or 2 lines and absolutely does not explain even half the questions you might have about the repercussions of this event
The original jp kingdom hearts had a bunch of places where it struggled to load (particularly in the gummi stages) and i assume loading in the 3d portraits over the world map was one of those and there may be some pre-coded delay that accounted for that.
The general idea of the Behemoth as a huge monster you have to climb onto in order to even do damage does get a redo in KH2 as an optional boss. Whether that boss is better or worse than this one is up for debate, but it is certainly is much more imposing and spectacular (in the literal sense that it is a spectacle to see)
It occurs to me that the final hit of KH1 Ragnarok is kind of a precursor to the Shotlock function.
Interestingly, at 16:37, Grant asks why Aurora's dress is blue when it should be pink. From my understanding Aurora is typically portrayed in a purple dress since the release of her movie as a sort of compromise between the pink vs blue dress fight the fairies had over her dress color.
The most lethal math you can ask someone to do is primes, obviously.
Most lethal math you can ask someone to do is in a Lighthouse with a dancing robot.
sure seemed to work for Father Pucci
Nah, Soras mom's not dead, she's just sleeping.
Funny thing is Mushu will absolutely delete bosses when using the damage storage trick...if you can actually hit said boss.
I died inside a bit when you casually used a mega-elixer right there. I never used mine ever, they just gained dust unto eternity.
Last time I played, I used all mine to replenish my MP in the Sephiroth fight so I could keep spamming Strike Raid and cheese him to death.
The games typically aren't *super* shy about handing them out, and they typically give you a way to get more, so usually there's no reason not to
Is Sora's mom or even Riku's parents EVER brought up again in the entire series?
They are not, Sora's mom appears once in the entire series and that's it so far. We'll have to see about kingdom hearts 4
And now, with the last Kingdom Hearted, all our heroes return to their moms! Sora, Donald, Sephiroth...
Oh poor naïve Yuffie
The impassable walls of Disney's stranglehold over IP and copyright law.
I'm surprised neither of them called Oblivion the Nightmare Before Christmas Keyblade instead of just the goth one.
22:34 That's some pretty dark attention to detail bro.
I love the divine rose, it's one of my favorites in the series
19:12 Wait, you worked on Saints Row 2022?
Yes he did.
@@ShadowWolfRising That's depressing.
Imagine if the Stop spells worked like Stasis in Breath of the Wild. Sora would have the time of his life just flinging random crap around.
30:10
*CoM MUSIC STARTS PLAYING LOUDLY IN BACKGROUND*
The Olympus Keychain is still one of my favorites.
The Hercules-brand Keyblade you pick up at the Colosseum gift-shop.
Was that pronunciation of "obstackles" at 8:41 an "O Brother Where Art Thou?" reference? Like how the blind prophet says it, which is echoed by Delmar afterward.
I don't think I noticed you kept saying Frank. I kept hearing Dan.
The idea of pointlessly gendering keyblades is hilarious to me
The natural extension of this is that Roxas is bisexual.
fwiw the reasoning is that Oathkeeper and Oblivion are meant to be symbolic of Sora's bond to Kairi and Riku, respectively. Though I suppose that means couples should carry the one they feel corresponds to their partner instead of themself.
As the other comment said it's not really like that, it's just that Oathkeeper has Kairi's charm on it while Oblivion is meant to symbolize Riku.
I've never used summons outside of tinkerbell, and in 2 I only summoned because of the Olympus cups stuff
Flat out dont even noticed they existed in 3 (the attractions feel like summons but somehow not.)
Nice vid!
It's so weird to have seen the Behemoth fight done so much better in the FF7 Remake.
Is it really weird to see a game do something better 20 years later?
Wait, are people actually GENDERING Oathkeeper and Oblivion? I just thought they were generally associated with Kairi and Riku, respectively.
Ep 23
Grant picking the WRONG side in the dress war, how disappointing. Blue dress best.
Not Funny Mushu!
After watching 22 episodes of this, and at least two other people play through the game... i just can't understand why adults like this game. The gameplay looks terrible, the controls look terrible, the story is awful and childish, the characters are ugly and bland, the voice acting is quite poor, the message is simplistic and childish again. It's bad to me the same way every Sonic game ever made is comprehensively, irredeemably bad. There is not one single thing in this game, and the rest of the series, that is even the slightest bit appealing to me.
Maybe it's because I never played it when I was younger? I mean, I loved Disney movies when I was a kid. I was the perfect age to enjoy the golden era of Disney before the modern stuff came about. I killed my Fantasia tape because I watched it so much.
I truly don't get it. So why am I watching it? I've got fuck all else to do. Why not.
I have an idea for kingdom hearts... what if we opened it up to other franchises other then Disney/Pixar... think of it Sora, Donald and Goofy be in the Mushroom Kingdom, Mobius, Hyrule... or dare I say Equestria?
Oh god, I have now realized what might be a horrible fact: We have the Proud Boys extreme right group in America whose name comes from the Aladdin musical number "Proud of your boy"... What if the Oathkeepers are partly inspired by the keyblade? Dear god no
Proud Boys thing sounds like a thing you would point out to make fun of them, like ha ha your terrorist organization has the same name as a mediocre song from a disney movie but NO, thats literally why theyre called that!!! Its the ultimate cringe