*The 5 Stages of **-Grief-** Fighting the Shambler:* 1. _"I'm not fighting the Shambler."_ 2. _"I_ shouldn't _fight the Shambler..."_ 3. _"I _*_really_*_ shouldn't be fighting the Shambler..."_ 4. _"I'm fighting the Shambler."_ 5. *_"I can't believe I lost a fight to the Shambler!_*
and the usual 7th stage: _"That was a close one, but at least the Shambler's dea--_ *_I FORGOT THE CLAPPERCLAWS DON'T DIE AFTER THE SHAMBLER FIGHT'S OVER!!!_*
>2 rooms left, everyone full health with only mild stress damage "Ok how the fuck did this go terribly wrong" >He starts walking back to the shambler altar "Oh I see it"
As a fresh DD player I quickly learned a couple of things. Dodge chance is a coin flip no matter how high you get it, deathblow resist is a myth no matter how high you get it, the shambler doesn't kill you, the clapper claws do, and overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.
I have a unspoken rule when it comes to fighting the shambler. "Thou shalt not fight the shambler unless thee have riposte or an abomination" Why do I have that rule? I got wiped by him once, losing my best trinkets in the process.
Happened on week 6, whenever I return to the graveyard, I imidiately get reminded of the party wipe as it's pretty much right at the top (there is also 1 death from week 5)
once played modded Darkest Dungeon, had the perfect party to prepare to fight the shambler, missed 15 75% in a row, and the shambler hit 10 times in a row. It's not just overconfidence, i swear the shambler has a plot armor or something
@@guilhermeit1 oh right, the "it has a low chance of happening so it definetly didn't happen" argument. This happened once in hundreds of hours of play, and i didn't even count the amount of crits the shambler hit me with
Good plays, but i think the biggest mistake was 1. trying for multiple 40% stuns on the shambler when you could've been targeting/debuffing the tentacles for dodge and prot and mark or stun, and 2. not noticing that each time a tentacle hits, it MEGA buffs itself for ACC, DMG, CRIT and PROT, making them super hard to kill and able to instantly oneshot your characters w/o chance of missing (antiquarians dodge buff is negated by the +10 acc each time they hit). Oh and 3. relying on a Flagellant without acc trinkets to hit a 40 dodge enemy is really risky, especially using exsanguinate to get off deaths door/low hp. Good party comp, riposte def wouldve helped, just played one or two of the heroes wrong
Houndmaster needed more healing, it was THE guy doing all the damage. Flagellant without rain of sorrows is just wrong. You could have killed him in half the turns with the HM/FLA bleed combo. But shit happens, man
Overconfidence yup I am at the point now where 50 to 75% of my deaths now are because of this or my own stupidity (hitting the wrong mob on accident, walking in when I meant to eat or heal first etc...." Subbed as well forgot to last time :). I want to be here for all the guides and hero reviews and hero help's an overviews. Have a good 4th weekend Shuffle.
Thanks for the post match analysis. I find myself falling into autopilot from beginning of the game until champion. Level 5 missions chew me up at least once or twice every play through for the same reason.
yeah that is a major weakness of deathblow flag, not only is it a intrinsically risky playstyle with you always having about a 15% chance to die on deaths door, but being in that state stresses you out and 200 stress kills him. i lost a flag with martyrs seal in shambler fight in a almost identical way, the only real difference is my flag died first and stunned clapper claws so i ended up winning the fight.
Awesome vid man! You can drop punish on both clappers in first two rounds, then focus shamb with rest of party in this situation. Clappers die in 1-2 rounds but you dont have to wrestle the prot buff bc dot is set. Stun clapper with occultist/ weakening curse on shamb for prot minus. You just cant let the clappers stack buffs under any circumstance.
I think if I tried to take it slow by killing the clappers consistently and having the hounds harry it would have went better. Overall I just did a lot wrong lol.
I believe if you had rain of sorrows on flagg, you would’ve been able to beat it, since you would’ve been able to burn the shambler faster. Yeah, not stunning the clappers also didn’t help.
Came back to the game after a year and this exact thing happened to me about an hour ago. New team, doing well, went for shambler, party wipe on the last clapper. This game has a way of humbling you.
Oh boy this brings back some memories. For some reason i feel such an urge or is my kleptomania in this game. That I must hoard EVERY THING before i leave. Yes including Shambler. And I always try to tell myself i'm not prepared for this, i didn't finished the dungeon and i have a high chance of getting the bad trinket that I will never use ( i say that because it happened to me like 5 times in a row to get the drink that we all know is not that great to have even in early). Is like this cosmic entity is really trying to lure into my doom. I thank Cthulu when i see the altar and have no torches to put in.
Also, I'll never forget the first time I ran into a Shambler because of running out of torches. I thought I was tripping balls. Luckily I ended up getting away but shit that was scary.
The panicked dodge buffing is something I understand so well, haha. I had a Jester that was grossly low HP with an occultist that just refused to heal him, so I decided I had to go for broke and use Solo for the +20 dodge and mark. I thought it was a great play until I noticed, after my broken and bloodied Jester got his first and final deathblow, that Clapperclaw also buffs for accuracy TT
14 hours into the game, I encountered the curio that becomes the fight with the Shambler. It was intense, grueling. Every hit matters. I got lucky as I've landed a couple of crits that turned the tides, and just continuous death's door procs that did not become a deathblow. And then my Crusader died. I tried running away, but it failed. This cost the life of my Plague Doctor. I'm left with Dimas and the Vestal, Dimas got lucky again, and landed a killing blow to the shambler, AND I EXHALED, with my fist up in the air. At this point, I've fought the necromancer apprentice, and thought the tentacles would follow him BUT THEY DID NOT. Smacked both my heroes to death. And that's how I got the achievement of the full party wipe.
I was litterally cheating with better trinkets mod (only combat mod i had) and had massive dmg trinkets ( dismas head 25%dmg and legendary bracers with two focus rings) in a party of Vestal/Houndmaster/ Bounty Hunter/ Hellion with Houndmaster having the biggest speed so that he marks the thing from the stars and the BH deals massive dmg after it and i still almost lost someone in that fight
Never forget the APEX PREDATOR, the fucking Crocodilian. First time I ran into it, my Plague Doctor got killed, my Flagellant went Rapturous and killed my Vestal, and barely squeaked by with a Bounty Hunter at Death’s Door and the aforementioned Flagellant. I just fled the quest after getting another fight almost immediately after that one.
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@@buttsniffingdoctor4104 All the normal youtube stuff helps. Likes, comments, shares, subscribes and all that. If the channel keeps going in this positive direction I'll open some form of patreon or paid sub service with perks for anyone willing to throw money lol. The concept of that is still pretty weird to me. Regardless, thanks so much for the kind words and spending time with my videos :)
I've never really known how to properly fight the Shambler, I didn't have any particular strats besides the pre-scramble and the focus on the Shambler, I didn't even consider stunning the Clapperclaws and not the shambler. Honestly, the happiest thing I've seen here is the treat being used at least once lol
God damn it - I misheard the "full Flagellants" as "full flatulence" and legit lmao'd me arse. It's cap as hecc and juvenile af, and also it's necroposting, but why not, eh. : ) Love ye content, amigo!
Ignoring the clapper claws when they spawn seems like such a strange choice. They are the fight's gimmick after all and their damage gets insane. The lack of flat out damage dealers here is problematic, so I can kind of understand it. Hope that you can kill the shambler fast enough. But they are pretty easy to stun compared to the shambler. And interestingly they stay after his death, so you have to kill them anyway
You have to find a balance though. The shambler attacks and summons 2 tentacles per turn. You have to include a plan that still attacks the shambler once per turn. With Antiquarian and Occultist you won't be killing one tentacle basically the whole fight. Flag could maybe bleed them with sorrows but it will take 2+ turns regardless. He had to ignore the tentacles.
I'm really new to Darkest Dungeon so today, I accidentally got in a boss fight by mindlessly tossing a torch into the altar. It was a level 1 quest with level 0s and 1s, but honestly it was still the worst surprise
Do yourself a favor and don't sacrifice a torch to an alter that says "sacrifice a torch if you crave the void" it never works out in your favor. I haven't even done it before. I just trusted that the game would punish me if I didn't listen and judging by these compalations (spelling sucks) I think I'm right.
@@LifetimeThiccness Haha you did good , but actually shamblers are quite beatable in easy and medium missions once u know the game more and ofc feel like your team can handle it (stress + hp level, shuffle protection , stun. It s very appealing to kill a few shamblers early on in your campaigns since they can drop some of the most powerful items in the game like the ancestor candle and map. Riposte is excellent vs shamblers since they only do aoe attacks, stun is excellent to negate the clupperclaw's turns and stop their snowballing effects. My usual strategy is to shuffle my own party before activating the altar, then i try to stun 1 clupperclaw per round and direct all the remaining dmg on the shambler. Like most boss fights this one is a race so I try to only heal when it s really necessary otherwise i d just do stuns or dmg with my healer for the fight to end asap, vestal is great as usual with her stun and if the fight went smoothly you can even afford to recover a little bit at the end by once again stunning the clupperclaw. The biggest no no to a shambler fight in my opinion is shuffle protection , like if your Leper ends up in the 4th spot you are screwed. So you kinda need a party with chars like houndmasters that can attack anywhere or members that can moove their own positions like highwayman. Still always a scary fight , but the reward can change your campaign , getting ancestor map early one will make your life so much easier :p Peace
6:59 I think you should've kept up the dodge buffing with the antiquarian instead of using her guard to protect her, yes the flagelent had health to spare but with the houndmaster and occultist at critical health I'd think it's better to maintain a team buff, while the occultist heals and the houndmaster keeps attacking. While I like the flagelent for his bleed and clutch sustain, I absolutely avoid bringing him on any quest I expect to be stressful simply because he cannot become virtuous, as I've also lost a handful of characters due to his maniacal collateral damage. I always forget the dogtreat though lol.
It's normal in any game that has random number generation as a core component with overemphasis placed on it. In these kinds of games RNG is such a factor that you can literally make every correct decision and do everything right and still have the worst possible outcome/lose everything. Darkest Dungeon and the XCom series are the two big ones in the modern sense but speaking old-school Dungeons And Dragons and Risk have always been known to cause people rage and depression because of the laws of probability.
Man this just happend to me but i was not ready at all for rhe shambler it was one of those random encounters and it got me with all the debuffs of the Flagelant, i got destroyed hahahaha
I killed the shambler in my second or third ever dungeon, to be wiped complitely later by his spawns cause i had no idea you could run away from the fight
I actually stopped playing after a full team wipe on shambler. It's been 3 years and I'm finally playing DD with a newfound passion, but I still remember the fight. I actually killed the veteran shambler on darkest with ~10 stress on everyone a few weeks back. All because I had 1. Hellion with pain-train 2. Occultist with eldritch dmg trinket and stab I found that unless you have really reliable dot or armor pierce, those small tentacles are 1# priority. My team wipe was literally because I had none of those and I let 1 tentacle get 100%prot
This happened last night. Had a awesome long champion run thru the Warren's. Camp fire left. No stress. Vestal, Hwy Man, Hound Master, Helion, party got wiped with exception of Hound Master. Lost a crap ton of good trinkets, and all were max levels max gear, max skills so huge investment
First round is the most important, if anything fails, it's going to be a rough race to beat the damage/stress build up, especially without multi hits/back rank dps. I don't challenge that thing unless I know I'm likely to kill it in 2-4 rounds.
Thats why I love to get a dot ability on the little ones asap and let them die when they die, and use the rest of the party to more or less bully the big boi
My worst run, I don't even remember the team I had. I had one room left in the mission and everyone was like at full health and low stress. I chose to camp because I thought the run was going TOO well. Took the time to buff up everyone for the final room and thought I was going to be fine. Got surprised, shuffled, stunned, crit a bunch, and a madman spammed doomsday for like 20 a pop on everyone. The whole party got afflicted and down they went. That game played me and went 0-100 REAL quick.
I always touch the Shambler Altar with bare hands, because I play only in darkness and he irritates me immensely. When your first hallway battle in a champion quest is him and your party is not really optimised for him and you just wasted a week... Annoying.
@@ShuffleFM Well, the thing is when Abom gets affliction he transforms back to human form. And he can transform into beast only once per fight. I went with full intent on raking the tentacles, but when they started pump stress on him, he just transformed back to human and my strat went to shite. IMHO that re-transform is something not to be overlooked, because in missions with high stress it can just blow your entire strategy into pieces
Yea my first wipe was the shambler and I still haven't tried to fight it cause the stupid curio is always on boss fight levels and I'm too scared to try it lol I'm still very new to this game
Antiquarian is named Bezos Flagellant is named Hemo Occultist is Squid And houndmaster is Dylan (I assume that's a reference to Dylan Dog??) Bro your mercenary names are top tier 😂
Somehow I managed to defeat the shambler unintentionally. Only radiant, but it worked out. Have a video about it, but I don't think I can do this again anytime soon
Damn man my first wipe was to the collector. Those highwaymen destroyed me and I got unlucky turn 1 unable to stun or maximize damage on him. Ps. So far I have only gotten those red trapezoids from killing the collector. I reduce torchlight to see if I get anything else but so far nothing
My first shambler I party wiped, but was low level anyway my second one I was higher level 3/4 and felt prepared. Made the mistake of assuming the smaller tentacles would die if I killed the shambler. If I'd known they dont beforehand I would've retreated, it was greedy of me tbh
You can see it as greedy, but I'd say it's an honest mistake. The summoned helpers for other bosses go away when the boss dies. Shambler is the only one that doesn't which is odd.
'he didn't get hit toouch' Every time I try to use Highwayman. Ripose is great on paper, but relying on your enemy damaging you is unreliable at best and useless at worst.
My worst experience was in the Champion Warrens... *First* (!!!) room battle... Got very unlucky and ALL of my enemies went first despite my fastest chars' speed being much higher. Massive bleeds and blights applied + stun on my Vestal + very nasty AoE crit, that brought 3 of my heroes so low, that on their turns they had gone to around 10 HP due to DoTs... Next turn RNG god ignored my massive speed advantage ( once again ) and enemy has got another nasty AoE ability crit, finally bringing 3 of my characters to Death's Door... Next thing I remember is seeing all of my best ( and absolutely beloved ) heroes failing the Deathblow Resist to a DoT one by one accompanied by Wayne June's ( aka Ancestor, aka DD Narrator ) *"More dust. More ashes. More disappointment."* ringing in my ears in a mocking fashion... And my Reynauld standing there with full HP sweating profusely. There was nothing I could do and that's the thing that gets me the most. Not my foolish mistake had killed them, nor did a clumsy misclick. It was just terrible luck. Never had any problems with the Warrrens afterwards, but I still feel hesitant to embark on a Champion Warrens mission due to this pure RNG's cruel joke of a party wipe
@@ShuffleFM Specially if it is your first run, you already completed the dungeon, your characters are low health and stressed, and they are carrying your most valuable trinkets. That day I just wanted a bit more gold, but instead I got obliterated.
Your first mistake was knowingly taking an antiquarian into a shambler fight. Enemies get huge bonuses with 0 torch, and shambler fights in 0 torch automatically. At that point, the dodge buff is a lie, and she didn't have anything else to contribute with.
dodge is somewhat fine it helped to dodge shambler a few times, like he said in the video make a lot of mistakes such as keep trying to stun with low chance to shambler and using poorly his hm. Even with 2 anti u can destroy shambler in torchless.
Antiquarian is, to me, the most subtle adventurer in Darkest Dungeon. At first sight, she looks utterly useless. She can be, of course. Dodge ability is significant, to be combined with specific adventurers, such as Man-at-arms or, simply, dodge equipment. Blight ability is to combined with specific adventurers, such as the Grave Robber (LUNGE). -ACC ability is to be combined with specific adventurers, such as Plague Doctor (who also is a Blight combo). Heal ability is meant to escape "DEATH DOOR". GUARD ability is to be combined with specific adventurers, such as high PROT ones (80% max). Also situational, to eventually escape from death blow. Back ability is only meant to be used when the Antiquarian is displaced, wich eventually annoys the course of the combat (Shambler often disorganizes your team). Melee damage ability ? Cannot see the point. Specific abilities to be chosen accordingly. Until Enemies decide by other means.
Haha you're fine. I liked the forced guard idea between them and it has potential. I just should not have played a brand new team, with an antiquarian, in 0 light, and choose to fight a shambler right at the end :P
Oh man that hurts, leaving those clapperclaws and shambler to live 1 more turn were deadly ass mistakes. At least it is a lesson of overconfidence to all of us viewers, just skip shambler lmao
You know, I was playing martyr flag and he got squealed to death by wilber, the little pig guy with swine prince. One of my friends summarized it pretty well I think. He said "when you play stupid games you win stupid prizes." Why did I tell you this? Eh I don't really know I just thought it was funny I guess.
*The 5 Stages of **-Grief-** Fighting the Shambler:*
1. _"I'm not fighting the Shambler."_
2. _"I_ shouldn't _fight the Shambler..."_
3. _"I _*_really_*_ shouldn't be fighting the Shambler..."_
4. _"I'm fighting the Shambler."_
5. *_"I can't believe I lost a fight to the Shambler!_*
*The hidden 6th stage of Grief:*
6. "Any Shambler I meet is dead!"
*And the cycle continues*
and the usual 7th stage:
_"That was a close one, but at least the Shambler's dea--_ *_I FORGOT THE CLAPPERCLAWS DON'T DIE AFTER THE SHAMBLER FIGHT'S OVER!!!_*
I know Im kind of randomly asking but do anybody know a good website to stream new tv shows online?
Tip for the Shambler: You can light torches once it's dead. The clapperclaws are way less scary in radiant light.
@@kingdedede8064 8th stage: Uninstall
Overconfidence is merely a trick of the light executed with impunity
I can only read the narrators quotes in his voice and this was an INTERESTING mash up of tones lol
In radiance may we find victory, but a victory nonetheless
Overconfidence has no intrinsic merit, unless, a full team wipe be considered a virtue.
😂
>2 rooms left, everyone full health with only mild stress damage
"Ok how the fuck did this go terribly wrong"
>He starts walking back to the shambler altar
"Oh I see it"
I feel like such a noob when I don't use the dog treats. They just sit in my fkin inventory, forgotten, taking up space.
Same i feel when i forget about Firewood, so they just sit there when i could use them to heal, stress etc.
I played darkest dungeon for so long that I read that last line with his voice and even the pauses xD.
Sometimes i uses the treats just to not feel a noob, win the fight very easily, and then, when i need them... bam. Gone.
Hate those biscuits.
*Reloads shotgun slowly with insidious intent*
RIP AND TEAR UNITL IT IS DONE
I kinda want Wayne June to say that
As a fresh DD player I quickly learned a couple of things. Dodge chance is a coin flip no matter how high you get it, deathblow resist is a myth no matter how high you get it, the shambler doesn't kill you, the clapper claws do, and overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.
I have a unspoken rule when it comes to fighting the shambler.
"Thou shalt not fight the shambler unless thee have riposte or an abomination"
Why do I have that rule? I got wiped by him once, losing my best trinkets in the process.
Okay, I'm curious... Why an Abomination?
@@Lux_the_Lost One word: r a k e
Big mood,
@@angel-6776 That's funny. That was what I used to win a Shambler once. Rake all the time. Glad I'm not the only one.
Plague docto?
My first wipe was the shambler i saw the curio and was like what does this do
Same, it was a thrilling fight but I lost my whole crew. Gotta love Darkets Dungeon lol
Happened on week 6, whenever I return to the graveyard, I imidiately get reminded of the party wipe as it's pretty much right at the top (there is also 1 death from week 5)
Lmao. Me too
Same here
Same only my highway man escaped
My worst DD experience.
3rd game, court just came out, decide to go darkness run.
Old road, turn out the light
Shambler fight.
That would honestly be hilarious. At least nothing is invested at that point. Either lose Rey/Dis or just restart.
@@Leaflar You think it's possible to beat shambler with 2 level 0s no trinkets?
Dr. Terrivian Vess No. Not in the slightest.
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@@Terrivian_Vess Yes, it's been done and recorded. Someone else replied to this with the link already
Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.
i saw overconfidence in the thumbnail and run to the comments just to see this , thanks
low hanging fruit
@@thememelord6510 way too low sadly
@@limcw6092 must agree
Me:*Looks at team* "Oh nice the hound master is my personal favorite class and its the same name as my hero houndmaster
Me:*Remembers title* "Oh no"
once played modded Darkest Dungeon, had the perfect party to prepare to fight the shambler, missed 15 75% in a row, and the shambler hit 10 times in a row.
It's not just overconfidence, i swear the shambler has a plot armor or something
%75 or 75 ACC?
That is 1 in 1073741824 so i doubt it
@@ozanalkan137 75%
@@guilhermeit1 oh right, the "it has a low chance of happening so it definetly didn't happen" argument. This happened once in hundreds of hours of play, and i didn't even count the amount of crits the shambler hit me with
@@guilhermeit1 also may i ask what kind of calculation did you make, the chance was a 0.08%
Over Insideousness is a slow and confident killer
Good plays, but i think the biggest mistake was 1. trying for multiple 40% stuns on the shambler when you could've been targeting/debuffing the tentacles for dodge and prot and mark or stun, and 2. not noticing that each time a tentacle hits, it MEGA buffs itself for ACC, DMG, CRIT and PROT, making them super hard to kill and able to instantly oneshot your characters w/o chance of missing (antiquarians dodge buff is negated by the +10 acc each time they hit). Oh and 3. relying on a Flagellant without acc trinkets to hit a 40 dodge enemy is really risky, especially using exsanguinate to get off deaths door/low hp. Good party comp, riposte def wouldve helped, just played one or two of the heroes wrong
oh god that was rough to watch, brings back so many repressed memories. I guess sometime you just gotta focus the enemy lol
Houndmaster needed more healing, it was THE guy doing all the damage.
Flagellant without rain of sorrows is just wrong. You could have killed him in half the turns with the HM/FLA bleed combo.
But shit happens, man
Refreshing to see someone admit their mistakes instead of blaming RNJesus
Thank you :) really good to see the failures along side the success. Changing so many variables at once is always dangerous.
Overconfidence yup I am at the point now where 50 to 75% of my deaths now are because of this or my own stupidity (hitting the wrong mob on accident, walking in when I meant to eat or heal first etc...." Subbed as well forgot to last time :). I want to be here for all the guides and hero reviews and hero help's an overviews. Have a good 4th weekend Shuffle.
Ever since I've been watching your channel, I was able to really enjoy this amazing game. 💯👊🎖️
Shouldn't have left that terrible assault unanswered lol. Thanks from the future for the sick playlist, amazing work
I like how I looked at the thumbnail, saw the DEATHBLOW text and a Shambler in the corner, and I immediately knew (exactly) what happened.
My favorite thing about this game is you can lose a perfect run in just a few bad moves.
Thanks for the post match analysis. I find myself falling into autopilot from beginning of the game until champion. Level 5 missions chew me up at least once or twice every play through for the same reason.
yeah that is a major weakness of deathblow flag, not only is it a intrinsically risky playstyle with you always having about a 15% chance to die on deaths door, but being in that state stresses you out and 200 stress kills him.
i lost a flag with martyrs seal in shambler fight in a almost identical way, the only real difference is my flag died first and stunned clapper claws so i ended up winning the fight.
Awesome vid man! You can drop punish on both clappers in first two rounds, then focus shamb with rest of party in this situation. Clappers die in 1-2 rounds but you dont have to wrestle the prot buff bc dot is set. Stun clapper with occultist/ weakening curse on shamb for prot minus. You just cant let the clappers stack buffs under any circumstance.
I think if I tried to take it slow by killing the clappers consistently and having the hounds harry it would have went better. Overall I just did a lot wrong lol.
narrator wasn’t lying, that overconfidence do be a slow and insidous killer
I believe if you had rain of sorrows on flagg, you would’ve been able to beat it, since you would’ve been able to burn the shambler faster. Yeah, not stunning the clappers also didn’t help.
Good point
Came back to the game after a year and this exact thing happened to me about an hour ago. New team, doing well, went for shambler, party wipe on the last clapper. This game has a way of humbling you.
Oh boy this brings back some memories. For some reason i feel such an urge or is my kleptomania in this game. That I must hoard EVERY THING before i leave. Yes including Shambler. And I always try to tell myself i'm not prepared for this, i didn't finished the dungeon and i have a high chance of getting the bad trinket that I will never use ( i say that because it happened to me like 5 times in a row to get the drink that we all know is not that great to have even in early). Is like this cosmic entity is really trying to lure into my doom. I thank Cthulu when i see the altar and have no torches to put in.
lmfao when he said he died to the shambler, i knew for a fact it was his little minions that actually killed him haha
Points to take away....never let the Shamblites live😗🎶
RIP Flagellant, their death resist is a lie they always die on the first hit 😖
Also, I'll never forget the first time I ran into a Shambler because of running out of torches. I thought I was tripping balls. Luckily I ended up getting away but shit that was scary.
You know how the saying goes.
Jesus, the crit chance on those Shamblers! Note do self, do NOT fight them low torch!
The panicked dodge buffing is something I understand so well, haha. I had a Jester that was grossly low HP with an occultist that just refused to heal him, so I decided I had to go for broke and use Solo for the +20 dodge and mark. I thought it was a great play until I noticed, after my broken and bloodied Jester got his first and final deathblow, that Clapperclaw also buffs for accuracy TT
Oh lord I read that thumbnail as “a lesson in consent”
Death waits for the slightest lapse in concentration.
I was under the impression that you never make mistakes.
14 hours into the game, I encountered the curio that becomes the fight with the Shambler. It was intense, grueling. Every hit matters. I got lucky as I've landed a couple of crits that turned the tides, and just continuous death's door procs that did not become a deathblow.
And then my Crusader died. I tried running away, but it failed. This cost the life of my Plague Doctor. I'm left with Dimas and the Vestal, Dimas got lucky again, and landed a killing blow to the shambler, AND I EXHALED, with my fist up in the air.
At this point, I've fought the necromancer apprentice, and thought the tentacles would follow him BUT THEY DID NOT.
Smacked both my heroes to death.
And that's how I got the achievement of the full party wipe.
It's a rite of passage :)
There are two mini-bosses that's really annoying for me to fight,
1. Thing From The Stars
2. Shambler
I was litterally cheating with better trinkets mod (only combat mod i had) and had massive dmg trinkets ( dismas head 25%dmg and legendary bracers with two focus rings) in a party of Vestal/Houndmaster/ Bounty Hunter/ Hellion with Houndmaster having the biggest speed so that he marks the thing from the stars and the BH deals massive dmg after it and i still almost lost someone in that fight
Never forget the APEX PREDATOR, the fucking Crocodilian.
First time I ran into it, my Plague Doctor got killed, my Flagellant went Rapturous and killed my Vestal, and barely squeaked by with a Bounty Hunter at Death’s Door and the aforementioned Flagellant.
I just fled the quest after getting another fight almost immediately after that one.
"Or watch the things you gave your life too, broken.
And stoop and build'em back up again with worn-out tools." - Rudyard Kipling
what program do you use to record your gameplay?
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Really enjoy your content and love the deep analysis in every character, build n team comp.
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@@buttsniffingdoctor4104 All the normal youtube stuff helps. Likes, comments, shares, subscribes and all that. If the channel keeps going in this positive direction I'll open some form of patreon or paid sub service with perks for anyone willing to throw money lol. The concept of that is still pretty weird to me. Regardless, thanks so much for the kind words and spending time with my videos :)
Gotta remember that overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.
overconfidence leads to a dizzying fall
Main thing is you recorded it, you recognize some mstakes, now you know what not to do next time. Thats how you become the master that you are ;)
I've never really known how to properly fight the Shambler, I didn't have any particular strats besides the pre-scramble and the focus on the Shambler, I didn't even consider stunning the Clapperclaws and not the shambler.
Honestly, the happiest thing I've seen here is the treat being used at least once lol
The biggest mistake was to bring the weakest character, the Antiquarian, to fight the Shambler.
Yeah I honestly don't know what to say other than I have no idea what you were thinking with that one.
God damn it - I misheard the "full Flagellants" as "full flatulence" and legit lmao'd me arse. It's cap as hecc and juvenile af, and also it's necroposting, but why not, eh. : )
Love ye content, amigo!
Ignoring the clapper claws when they spawn seems like such a strange choice. They are the fight's gimmick after all and their damage gets insane. The lack of flat out damage dealers here is problematic, so I can kind of understand it. Hope that you can kill the shambler fast enough. But they are pretty easy to stun compared to the shambler. And interestingly they stay after his death, so you have to kill them anyway
You have to find a balance though. The shambler attacks and summons 2 tentacles per turn. You have to include a plan that still attacks the shambler once per turn. With Antiquarian and Occultist you won't be killing one tentacle basically the whole fight. Flag could maybe bleed them with sorrows but it will take 2+ turns regardless.
He had to ignore the tentacles.
I'm really new to Darkest Dungeon so today, I accidentally got in a boss fight by mindlessly tossing a torch into the altar. It was a level 1 quest with level 0s and 1s, but honestly it was still the worst surprise
Do yourself a favor and don't sacrifice a torch to an alter that says "sacrifice a torch if you crave the void" it never works out in your favor. I haven't even done it before. I just trusted that the game would punish me if I didn't listen and judging by these compalations (spelling sucks) I think I'm right.
@@LifetimeThiccness Haha you did good , but actually shamblers are quite beatable in easy and medium missions once u know the game more and ofc feel like your team can handle it (stress + hp level, shuffle protection , stun. It s very appealing to kill a few shamblers early on in your campaigns since they can drop some of the most powerful items in the game like the ancestor candle and map.
Riposte is excellent vs shamblers since they only do aoe attacks, stun is excellent to negate the clupperclaw's turns and stop their snowballing effects. My usual strategy is to shuffle my own party before activating the altar, then i try to stun 1 clupperclaw per round and direct all the remaining dmg on the shambler. Like most boss fights this one is a race so I try to only heal when it s really necessary otherwise i d just do stuns or dmg with my healer for the fight to end asap, vestal is great as usual with her stun and if the fight went smoothly you can even afford to recover a little bit at the end by once again stunning the clupperclaw.
The biggest no no to a shambler fight in my opinion is shuffle protection , like if your Leper ends up in the 4th spot you are screwed. So you kinda need a party with chars like houndmasters that can attack anywhere or members that can moove their own positions like highwayman.
Still always a scary fight , but the reward can change your campaign , getting ancestor map early one will make your life so much easier :p
Peace
6:59 I think you should've kept up the dodge buffing with the antiquarian instead of using her guard to protect her, yes the flagelent had health to spare but with the houndmaster and occultist at critical health I'd think it's better to maintain a team buff, while the occultist heals and the houndmaster keeps attacking. While I like the flagelent for his bleed and clutch sustain, I absolutely avoid bringing him on any quest I expect to be stressful simply because he cannot become virtuous, as I've also lost a handful of characters due to his maniacal collateral damage. I always forget the dogtreat though lol.
It is normal in darkest dungeon. You believe everything is fine, suddenly you got wiped out
It's normal in any game that has random number generation as a core component with overemphasis placed on it. In these kinds of games RNG is such a factor that you can literally make every correct decision and do everything right and still have the worst possible outcome/lose everything. Darkest Dungeon and the XCom series are the two big ones in the modern sense but speaking old-school Dungeons And Dragons and Risk have always been known to cause people rage and depression because of the laws of probability.
Man this just happend to me but i was not ready at all for rhe shambler it was one of those random encounters and it got me with all the debuffs of the Flagelant, i got destroyed hahahaha
I killed the shambler in my second or third ever dungeon, to be wiped complitely later by his spawns cause i had no idea you could run away from the fight
occultist
I actually stopped playing after a full team wipe on shambler. It's been 3 years and I'm finally playing DD with a newfound passion, but I still remember the fight. I actually killed the veteran shambler on darkest with ~10 stress on everyone a few weeks back. All because I had 1. Hellion with pain-train 2. Occultist with eldritch dmg trinket and stab
I found that unless you have really reliable dot or armor pierce, those small tentacles are 1# priority. My team wipe was literally because I had none of those and I let 1 tentacle get 100%prot
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I got abusive on my first plague doctor and she ended up killing Dismas.
This happened last night. Had a awesome long champion run thru the Warren's. Camp fire left. No stress. Vestal, Hwy Man, Hound Master, Helion, party got wiped with exception of Hound Master. Lost a crap ton of good trinkets, and all were max levels max gear, max skills so huge investment
Lost that to a shambler? My sympathies friend
@@ShuffleFM Champion level 5 Shambler so I'm sure it was the same one. Darkest Dungeon was like "You are going to lose" then I got crushed.
First round is the most important, if anything fails, it's going to be a rough race to beat the damage/stress build up, especially without multi hits/back rank dps.
I don't challenge that thing unless I know I'm likely to kill it in 2-4 rounds.
Thats why I love to get a dot ability on the little ones asap and let them die when they die, and use the rest of the party to more or less bully the big boi
The Story of Hubris
I got afflicted by watching this.
me watching Dismas missing every attacks to Shambler's spawn even with ripostle
Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer
My worst run, I don't even remember the team I had. I had one room left in the mission and everyone was like at full health and low stress. I chose to camp because I thought the run was going TOO well. Took the time to buff up everyone for the final room and thought I was going to be fine.
Got surprised, shuffled, stunned, crit a bunch, and a madman spammed doomsday for like 20 a pop on everyone. The whole party got afflicted and down they went. That game played me and went 0-100 REAL quick.
I always touch the Shambler Altar with bare hands, because I play only in darkness and he irritates me immensely. When your first hallway battle in a champion quest is him and your party is not really optimised for him and you just wasted a week... Annoying.
Shamler is sick, never easy.
Shambler on tier3 is a beast. You cant make a clean kill on him without riposte party
You can, but you need a specific shambler killing strategy like abomination with rake to mow down the spawns repeatedly.
@@ShuffleFM Well, the thing is when Abom gets affliction he transforms back to human form. And he can transform into beast only once per fight. I went with full intent on raking the tentacles, but when they started pump stress on him, he just transformed back to human and my strat went to shite. IMHO that re-transform is something not to be overlooked, because in missions with high stress it can just blow your entire strategy into pieces
Yea my first wipe was the shambler and I still haven't tried to fight it cause the stupid curio is always on boss fight levels and I'm too scared to try it lol I'm still very new to this game
Antiquarian is named Bezos
Flagellant is named Hemo
Occultist is Squid
And houndmaster is Dylan (I assume that's a reference to Dylan Dog??)
Bro your mercenary names are top tier 😂
Dylan is a random name iirc haha
the real boss fight of the shambler is those stupid clapperclaw thingies.
RIP to my first wipe: Not realizing they'd stay after Shambly died.
Painful... And sadly, RELATABLE.
Dodge buffing against clapperclaws....oh my
Somehow I managed to defeat the shambler unintentionally. Only radiant, but it worked out. Have a video about it, but I don't think I can do this again anytime soon
Damn man my first wipe was to the collector. Those highwaymen destroyed me and I got unlucky turn 1 unable to stun or maximize damage on him.
Ps. So far I have only gotten those red trapezoids from killing the collector. I reduce torchlight to see if I get anything else but so far nothing
Remind yourself that overconfidence can be a slow and insidious killer
vvulf got my party like that two days ago. One lone survivor. I'm still bitter.
Vvulf can be a jerk, sorry to hear.
My first shambler I party wiped, but was low level anyway
my second one I was higher level 3/4 and felt prepared. Made the mistake of assuming the smaller tentacles would die if I killed the shambler. If I'd known they dont beforehand I would've retreated, it was greedy of me tbh
You can see it as greedy, but I'd say it's an honest mistake. The summoned helpers for other bosses go away when the boss dies. Shambler is the only one that doesn't which is odd.
a lifetime of turn based games like DD has taught me to never do dodge builds
I don't challenge champion level shambler. Always fight him at green level, yellow level sometimes. Red level never
Remind yourself ...
'he didn't get hit toouch'
Every time I try to use Highwayman. Ripose is great on paper, but relying on your enemy damaging you is unreliable at best and useless at worst.
My worst experience was in the Champion Warrens... *First* (!!!) room battle...
Got very unlucky and ALL of my enemies went first despite my fastest chars' speed being much higher. Massive bleeds and blights applied + stun on my Vestal + very nasty AoE crit, that brought 3 of my heroes so low, that on their turns they had gone to around 10 HP due to DoTs... Next turn RNG god ignored my massive speed advantage ( once again ) and enemy has got another nasty AoE ability crit, finally bringing 3 of my characters to Death's Door... Next thing I remember is seeing all of my best ( and absolutely beloved ) heroes failing the Deathblow Resist to a DoT one by one accompanied by Wayne June's ( aka Ancestor, aka DD Narrator ) *"More dust. More ashes. More disappointment."* ringing in my ears in a mocking fashion... And my Reynauld standing there with full HP sweating profusely. There was nothing I could do and that's the thing that gets me the most. Not my foolish mistake had killed them, nor did a clumsy misclick. It was just terrible luck. Never had any problems with the Warrrens afterwards, but I still feel hesitant to embark on a Champion Warrens mission due to this pure RNG's cruel joke of a party wipe
Ohhh i didnt know those tentacless have 80% crit chance. Count it.
This reminds me of my first fight with the collector... god damn that day I understanded what fear was.
Collector is terrifying!
@@ShuffleFM Specially if it is your first run, you already completed the dungeon, your characters are low health and stressed, and they are carrying your most valuable trinkets. That day I just wanted a bit more gold, but instead I got obliterated.
My first painful wipe was against the fanatic, lost 10 of my best characters fighting him before I could kill him and for what?
My first wipe was surprisingly not to the shambler when i fought it, somehow won, i got wiped on a camp ambush after the fight
Ambushes are super threatening, especially following a shambler which is usually enough to send the party home.
I’m reality your first mistake was fighting a champion shambler
Your first mistake was knowingly taking an antiquarian into a shambler fight. Enemies get huge bonuses with 0 torch, and shambler fights in 0 torch automatically. At that point, the dodge buff is a lie, and she didn't have anything else to contribute with.
dodge is somewhat fine it helped to dodge shambler a few times, like he said in the video make a lot of mistakes such as keep trying to stun with low chance to shambler and using poorly his hm. Even with 2 anti u can destroy shambler in torchless.
Antiquarian is, to me, the most subtle adventurer in Darkest Dungeon.
At first sight, she looks utterly useless. She can be, of course.
Dodge ability is significant, to be combined with specific adventurers, such as Man-at-arms or, simply, dodge equipment.
Blight ability is to combined with specific adventurers, such as the Grave Robber (LUNGE).
-ACC ability is to be combined with specific adventurers, such as Plague Doctor (who also is a Blight combo).
Heal ability is meant to escape "DEATH DOOR".
GUARD ability is to be combined with specific adventurers, such as high PROT ones (80% max). Also situational, to eventually escape from death blow.
Back ability is only meant to be used when the Antiquarian is displaced, wich eventually annoys the course of the combat (Shambler often disorganizes your team).
Melee damage ability ? Cannot see the point.
Specific abilities to be chosen accordingly. Until Enemies decide by other means.
i feel like i am in part responsible for this. Im sorry! xD
Haha you're fine. I liked the forced guard idea between them and it has potential. I just should not have played a brand new team, with an antiquarian, in 0 light, and choose to fight a shambler right at the end :P
Shambler is easy as long as you kill those little tentacles before they get 150% buff
Oh man that hurts, leaving those clapperclaws and shambler to live 1 more turn were deadly ass mistakes. At least it is a lesson of overconfidence to all of us viewers, just skip shambler lmao
Why do I always heard Flagellant as Flatulent?
YOU CAN CHANGE SKILLS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RUN?!??!!?!
You know, I was playing martyr flag and he got squealed to death by wilber, the little pig guy with swine prince. One of my friends summarized it pretty well I think. He said "when you play stupid games you win stupid prizes."
Why did I tell you this? Eh I don't really know I just thought it was funny I guess.