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Layers upon layers upon layers. Love it. Plans within plans
You get it! - nonsensei
A lot of the dialogue is straight from the actual book, with artistic improvisation. “Shrug” This film is going to be Metal!
I like how they're pulling lines from the source material, shows how much they respect it; and also how perfect Herbert made it. Why alter something when it's so succinct and perfect, right? - nonsensei
Yes! The line at the very end is almost directly from the books:
‘The Harkonnens control it!’ Gurney protested.
‘The people who can destroy a thing, they control it,’ Paul said.
Metal and mental!!
A couple of things from the first movie that you didn't quite pick up on. The Bene Gesserit plan has been going for thousands of years not hundreds. The second is that where Jessica went rogue on them was that she was told by the order to have a daughter so the child could eventually be "mated" by them to another bloodline, she instead had a son because she loved Leto and knew that is what he wanted. She compounded this by teaching him Bene Gesserit skills which the order realizes that he actually has some talent for but they are late to this realization and have basically lost control of him.
We appreciate the clarification; the BG really do have a proper long game going on! I'm interested to find out when we see it if they manage to gain any of that control back. - nonsensei
Indeed Obelisk21. The plan was to mate the daughter of Leto and Jessica to the nephew of Vladimir Harkonnen. Not to Raban, but to Feyd Rautha. Their Son should be potentially become the Kwisatz Haderach. The Kwisatz Haderach has to be a man, since only a male could have the ability to bridge space and time with his prescient abilities.
@@NarendraTheComicalso the prophet is meant to be a male.
@@NarendraTheComic There's another point of intrigue - Paul was supposed to be a girl, and I think the plan was to marry her to Feyd-Rautha, the Baron's nephew we see here, who's also part of this planned bloodline, and I think their child would have been this Overman; they're very close to this goal; so in a way, Feyd is a counterpart of Paul, w similar potential, and the confrontation we see between them will have huge ramifications re all these huge forces at work
"Being in control is actually the problem" - I won't spoil the whole thing, but this line actually goes to the core of the problematic and themes of the original books. This is really the core of the story. It's a cautionary tale. "Be careful what you wish/will into reality."
I'm interested to see how Denis will translate this into the film. Sometimes we create the very things we fear, in the hopes we will be the chosen few who might control them, right? - nonsensei
@@NarendraTheComic Herbert's books show a huge experiment re human civilization - can humanity survive itself? The books set up this ideal set of conditions for governance - an omniscient leader who can see all the possibilities into the future, w absolute power and an enormous fanatical following - and the doubt he expresses is regarding if it's possible to save humanity - every choice has long term consequences that spiral out of control - Paul is just the beginning, and the whole experiment is played out by Book 4, God Emperor, and Herbert reflects on the results
- of course, the real story is about our world today - Herbert is asking if it's possible for us to save ourselves from a path of self-destruction - the Harkonnens and the Emperor and this Galactic Order represent what we are doing to our world now, the ultimate excesses of our vast wealth and power, and our trajectory
What? It's not a cautionary tale lmao. It's Frank Herbert's treatise about the cycle of civilization. The core of the story is about the inevitability of the civilization-changing forces, not about Paul's wish fulfillment.
@@beanwithbaconmegarocket "not about Paul's wish fulfillment"
You misunderstand what @BenoistPoire said. The _internal_ conflict for Paul, the protagonist, comes from him realising that how he wields his immense power will define the course of all of humanity. It's not a cautionary tale told in the usual manner (which is, protagonist blindly fucks up, audience learns lesson), but a cautionary tale told from the inside (that is, protagonist already knows lesson, but struggles to see a way to not fuck up).
Which is one of the many reasons _Dune_ is such an incredible story, tbh. So many facets to the story are innovative in a way that few others have been. (That's also why it winds me up so much when people criticise it for being "just another white saviour story", because what Herbert was doing was in many ways to _undermine_ the white-saviour narrative, to expose its potential for abuse as a tool for exploitation.)
@@rhonafenwick5643 You're reading into it your own views on storytelling, not what Herbert put into it.
“He who can destroy a thing, can control a thing” is straight from the books
A bit changed. "The power to destroy a thing is the absolute control over it."
I really like how they're pulling the lines directly, or close to directly. It shows how much they value Herbert's work - nonsensei
@@NarendraTheComic:
It should also be noted that the context for that is something Herbert took from civil law, in turn hailing all the way back to Roman law, and which has been extensively commented upon by a great number of social philosophers, namely the rights of "usus", "fructus", and "abusus"; the first two, which in English denote the right to use and profit from something, encapsulated by the term "usufruct", do not by themselves signify actual ownership over that thing, only the person who has the last right too, "abusus", i.e. the right to destroy something, is the actual owner.
This could be the greatest scifi movie ever made.
It very well could be! - nonsensei
“The spice must flow.”
Yes, it must! - nonsensei
A lot of the lines are from the book. Some are amalgamations of lines and narration from the book. And some things are taken from things learned in the next book.
I like that, it shows respect for the original artist, and they're clearly impactful lines. - nonsensei
This is the only movie I’m actually considering going to the theater to see.
It's gonna have to be a cinema experience! The visual are going to be insane! - nonsensei
It would be awesome if they did a limited re-release of the first film on IMAX right before this one.
Beyond excited for this movie. Trailer is epic! 🔥
Trailer was brilliant, the darker tone was so clear! Can't wait to watch this in the cinema! - nonsensei
You are both going to like this second part. In the book there’s something for everyone to latch onto. There is alot of layers to the second half. And yes his love interest as it’s shown in the trailer is important for the future books to understand it. Next books after dune messiah. Children of dune. And God emperor dune
I love to hear it! Layered stories are the best to experience over and extended time frame. This film is going to be one for the books! - nonsensei
Great reaction! The last ilne in the trailer is a direct quote from the book. Many of the others are half-quotes or paraphrases, "summaries" of the book, if you will. The biggest irony of the book is that it is not a "white savior" story, as I've sadly seen in many reviews/reactions. It is about the tragic effects of fanaticism/messianism/religious engineering. Paul is actually a tragic hero. He doesn't "believe the hype", but sees no choice (and is too afraid of a radical and gruesome solution - which you will find out about in books 3 and 4). Apart from Lady Jessica and Paul's daughter (later in the series, book 3), all in the Atreides line are. Paul's sister, Alia (which should appear here as a VERY strange little girl, born with all the powers of a BG, and also has a pivotal scene at the end in the first book - i really hope she hasn't been taken out and Denis is keeping the suprise), and most of all, Paul's son, Leto II in Book 4 - God-Emperor of Dune - the most intricate, wildest and my favorite of Herbert's series, Now, THAT book is "unfilmable" :)). Which ends the Atreides story line. You are in for the biggest treat as you get into the books. Tried not to give strong spoilers. Anyway, keep it up, it's refreshing to see passionate, perceptive and coherent peeps on the interwebs :)
Denis seems really dedicated to making this an apt portrayal of Herbert's works; I think that's why so many fans are on board. The first film was brilliant, we really enjoyed it and look forward to the next one and I look forward to reading the books afterwards; I just know there is going t be lots of stuff that Denis is going to have to not include in the film for the sake of time; that's the stuff that I'm excited to find out when I read it all. - nonsensei
Totally disagree about the "tragic" effects of fanaticism. Herbert did not place that value-judgement on the stroy--that's your own modern value system. He is writing about the cycle of civilization, the evolution of human society from primitivism to stability to weakness and then its inevitable reversion back to primitivism. It's the "anti-Star Trek" in which society proceeds on an unending course to unlimited liberalism and enlightenment.
You'll love the world building and the characters in the following books. Herbert was an absolute genius in my opinion....
Herbert has gained a follower in me. After we watch the second film, I'll promptly be reading the books! I cannot wait! - nonsensei
@@NarendraTheComic the books are key to understanding how villanueve approached the subject matter so far hes done a awesome job of it
I've been so excited to see you two watch this!
Honestly watched the trailer a few times after the immediate reaction; every time my excitement builds more and more. It feels as if there'll never be anything like this on the big screen for a long time after - nonsensei
The great houses are afraid that Paul will end spice production. The line from the book is: those who can destroy a thing can’t control a thing. This makes the emperor look weak. That’s what brings about the war.
Paul could very well go in any direction with his control, intrigued to find out where it will take him. - nonsensei
Those lines are from the book.
So I have heard. I do love to see it, the reason they're being used and not altered is because they're brilliant lines. Herbert was brilliant - nonsense
You two crack me up & I enjoy listening to your takes on things 😂❤
Glad you enjoy the takes, we love to give them! - nonsensei
Great reaction and breakdown guys, this is the quality sitty content we've been missing 😂
Thanks, the quality sitty content must flow! - nonsensei
Was working a lot! Can't wait for Dune 2. I think it will sell more than the first one...because people are going out more. I think he will make a part 3.
I just bought Dune Messiah and I am also planning to read Children of Dune!!!
It definitely going to make more than the first, there are no restrictions now. I'm so glad you're reading it, I'm planning to read it all once we see this film. Let us know how you like Herbert's writing - nonsensei
@@NarendraTheComic Herbert's writing is good...its very introspective so you read different character's thoughts. I will read Dune Messiah soon.
The first one was really great, if the second one is up to that standard that would be amazing!
I just hope they don't drop the ball, and I don't think they will. Denis is very careful and detailed with his work, I'm sure he's made the second one better than the first - nonsensei
@@NarendraTheComic take it from a reader of the books, he has shown us how close he is sticking to the original. Biggest embellishment I can see is battle Chani, in the book she played a crucial role, but Paul shielded her from the battles. Not sure if some of it isn't a vision of Paul's, but I think Denis will spend more time showing the Fremen clashing with the Harkonnens than was in the book. The Fremen are perfect for Paul's ambitions, they hate the Harkonnens as much as he does.
@@Peter-Khaven't read the books myself, but I may read the second one after watching part 2
I appreciate you telling me, I do like hearing he's sticking to the IP; it's good to see these days especially when too often IP is been twisted and morphed into something else entirely. The Fremens being happy to go against the Harkonnens is brilliant, fate bringing everything together. - nonsensei
Underrated channel! I appreciate both of y’all’s intelligent taking on the trailer.
Long live the fighters!
Appreciate the support! Hopefully won't be underrated for long :) long love the fighters! - nonsensei
The score didn't hit as well as in the last teaser, but this was more story centered rather than tone. Still looks good though
I think the score hit. I was expecting that now iconic tribal singing from the first trailer and film, but this felt darker. I'm intrigued what the soundtrack will feel like - nonsensei
Well done team😊😊😊
Thanks :) - nonsensei
You guys got fam in 🇨🇦? Love your reactions. Let’s get you to 10k 👏👏👏
We need to get them there, I've been watching for years and they have improved so much at this point they deserve 100k lol
As far as I know, no family out there. We're still working towards 10K, appreciate your support and enthusiasm :) - nonsensei
Loved these points you two pointed out. Paul embraces the role of Prophet despite being so afraid of his visions to try and guide the future to a path that avoids the horrible things he foresaw.
I think it makes for a very interesting, potentially volatile character. Excited for what's to come - nonsensei
Dune is Lawrence of Arabia in Space. Game of Thrones is Dune with dragons
Game of Thrones and Dune are nothing alike. Noble houses and political tactics are a commonality from Earth that happens to be in both Dune and GoT.
@@Alejojojo6 Perhaps not. However, the comparison is apt if you want to attract a younger generation of GoT fans into a deeper universe. There's no need to be a gatekeeping fan.
I think this would be good tag to attract an new audience; so many people don't like space films, they hear the movie is set in space and it turns them off and having a reference can bring them past skepticism. And although I see the Lawrence of Arabia links, many people won't because they haven't seen it! - nonsensei
There is one line from the book I have yet to hear, and I am hoping it is in the third trailer. It's right up there with "Fear is the mind killer", and was hammered to death in the 1984 film, but not a peep of it yet. If I hear the line, I will know it is truly on for this movie, and I am betting there will be a third trailer, and it will end with that line!
'Fear is the mind' was in the first film, and I think it will be coming back into trailers soon. It's a potent line and a memorable one that people associate with the Dune IP. - nonsensei
@@NarendraTheComic I am sure it will, but that is not the line I was referring to. I want to say the line I am referring to, but spoilers.
Help with the pronouncing. "Ben Knee Jesserit" for Bene Gesserit. Love the enthusiasm. Paul is trying to fulfill the Fremen prophesy and become the kwisatz haderach at the same time. Two separate things. He needs both to succeed.
Thanks for the pronunciation:) will Paul succeed in both thought? I cannot wait to find out in the cinema! - nonsensei
07:00 - The Bene Gesserit breeding program to produce the K.H. is thousands of years long. The B.G. Sisterhood centuries ago started their Missionaria Protectiva to inflitrate the local cultures on various planets and sow superstition about a coming messiah who will be born of a B.G. The prophecy the Fremen have of their coming 'Mahdi' or messiah, and the 'Lisan al gaib' or voice from the outer world, both were planted by the B.G. to prepare the way for his worship.
At the same time though, Paul is not under the control of the B.G. as planned (assuming he is the K.H.) so at this point things aren't going according to their plan. What does this mean? Is he following the prophecy or not? And if the Fremen believe he is their Mahdi and he leads them to victory, then is he truly their messiah? Even if it wasn't in the way the B.G. planned? These are the important questions of belief that the story makes us consider. 🙂
I think the sheer power of the BG hasn't been fully outlined in the first film, and nor has Paul's power. The BG haven't been able to conduct their plans as they wished because of Jessica's love to Leto and partially I'm sure because off her ambition also. It's going to be so cool to watch it unfold - nonsensei
This is a great reaction for anyone who hasn't read the books or seen the first movie. This story resonates because no matter how good the intention, power can be very dangerous in any timeline.
I agree totally about power, this film was simply incredible. We watched it upon it's release in the UK and I absolutely fell in love with everything about it.
Have you gotten to see it yet? - nonsensei
Every great line comes from the book, it's amazing
It's good they respect the IP enough to use it so raw from the books. - nonsensei
I'd just caution everyone (if you haven't read the book) to not assume Paul Atreides is the real hero in this saga. It gets really complicated. Dune is very much a cautionary tale. And that includes Paul's story. And I find it VERY interesting that the birth of Paul's sister, Alia, is merely hinted at in this trailer but most people would likely not notice it (Remember that Paul knew his mother was pregnant in Part One, so her new daughter is not a surprise.). Alia is a major force in the story's destiny, if Denis Villeneuve follows the events of the book.
I think many people dont expect where this story will go. And the fact that main character of Dune setting isnt even born yet is really crazy
I love a complicated protagonist! If he isn't the real hero, I'll accept it, but only if they lay things up well for whoever is. I cannot wait to find out - nonsensei
@worlddd7777 Nah, you're giving too much away with this; no spoilers please even semi-vague ones! We might infer something and I'd rather experience it fresh when we watch the second film/read it all- nonsensei
@@NarendraTheComic Lots of spoilers in these comments, including from tescherman3048. I'd recommend against reading the comments if you want to enjoy the film fully. Dune is a complicated story and in the end it's best for the reader/viewer to experience it for themselves. Subverting expectations is a big part of the books, so telling someone not to assume or expect something has the potential to ruin the experience.
@@nofacej1 Fair enough. I just wanted to say that the traditional, shallow, "hero" story so common to other Hollywood films, does not apply here.
Awesome
Thanks - nonsensei
They’ve been manipulating bloodlines for 10,000 years. All of their nefarious work messed up bc Jessica loved Leto and gave him the son he wanted.
Nefarious is the perfect word for it. Puppeteers can't easily keep people on strings, the BG should have realised. - nonsensei
Great reaction,..liked and subbed.
Appreciate the like and the sub! Hope you enjoy it around here :) - nonsensei
Part one is slow and mostly set up, so that this movie can fucking fly. SO MUCH is gonna happen in this movie. If you think the trailers showed to much…. Just wait
I felt like part one stopped just as the good stuff was getting started! I cannot wait to see how it all goes down :) - nonsensei
You should defenitly read all books, at least the first trilogy complete.Not just take the 2 movies to skip the first one cos, in lore regards and characters, as well as how the spice works, u would not get a single thing hahah, you MUST read all 3 i you are even going to do it; don t skip the first one hahaha salutes!
I'll be reading the whole collection once I watch the second film. I look forward to finding out the bits that didn't make it into the script. Honestly I can't wait to experience this story on the big screen! - nonsensei
@@NarendraTheComic it is fantastic and world inmersing,along side a song of Ice and Fire one of my favorites sagas! To read! U will enjoy it for sure!!
young pup
your father
i will do what must be done
he who can destroy a thing etc etc
are all straight from the book with slight variations in wording
I really like how they're taking straight from the source material. - nonsensei
Most of those line come straight from the book. Similar to the great lines in the Lord of the Rings came from Tolkien actual writing
Love to see it. It shows real respect for the original creator when the adaptation pulls from the source material like this - nonsensei
Remember Paul's visions/dialogue from the tent scene in Dune 1
I don't remember the exact dialogue, which visions were these? - nonsensei
@@NarendraTheComic He spoke of his visions of a war spreading across the universe like an unquenchable fire. Warriors waving the Atreides banner. A war in his (Paul's) name. People worshiping at the shrine of his father's skull.
Ah right. Thanks for reminding me, now I can see what he meant by horror. - nonsensei
It should be Jehz-eret like a J not G. Gessert
Ah, thanks for letting us know, otherwise we'd have kept mispronouncing it! - nonsensei
A tasty onion!
It sure is! - nonsensei
Only 30sec in and y'all so animated.
We enjoy doing these videos! Especially when the content we're watching is highly anticipated by us :) - nonsensei
You've kind of got it, lady, but not quite. Couple things without being spoilery. The Bene Gesserit were manipulating blood lines for millenia to produce the "Kwisatz Haderach", the ultimate prescient being. They needed an Atreidies daughter wed to a Harkonnen heir to combine the bloodlines and through various political machinations be in a position to control the offspring of that union. Jessica's decision to bear a son to Leto resulted in a generation skip and Paul was born, free of any Bene Gesserit influence (except that of his Mother, whose family tree is a spoiler so I won't mention).
The prophecy is simply a political tool to guarantee the safety of any stranded or wandering Bene Gesserit, but the Fremen kind of took it to heart and when Paul shows up they read the signs into his actions. As for his prescient ability you have to understand that he doesn't see the future, he sees possible futures, but there is one thread of the future he cannot escape. This is expanded upon fairly heavily in the later half of the novel so I won't say much more on that.
His acceptance into the Fremen requires him to choose a name which people will call him in public (the tribe give him a secret name for use within their troop). He chooses to be named Muad'dib after the little desert mouse that teaches the Fremen a lesson about how to survive in the harshest of climates.
And that's about it for the backstory. Hope you guys enjoy the movie. I know I will.
Thanks for the background information; Frank created such a rich world! We loved the first part of this film (going to rewatch it soon), we were sad to hear that part 2 was pushed back! Nevertheless we're looking forward to finding out how this story pans out :) - nonsensei
It is more complicated with Paul. It is not that he fears to lead Fremen into wrong direction based on laid out prophecy. He fears that no matter what he does to help them it ends up in a holy galactic war in his name that kills billions. It is hard to live with such weight and still keep fighting. It is hard to show that in the movies, wonder how they will allude to that in the second one. I really hope they do somehow and not just end it with an impression "good messiah came and saved the day". Really need to read the first book (ok, maybe also the second to solidify, but i don't like the rest of series that much) to understand this problem.
He sees the horrors of war, and wants to avoid it, but knows at if he assumes the role, it becomes unavoidable? I'll be reading the whole series from start to finish once the second film is out, can't wait. - nonsensei
@@NarendraTheComic At a certain point, he pretty much knows that it's unavoidable.
MAYBE SPOILERS:
Early on into his exile, he sees that he can prevent it by leaving Arrakis and going into hiding from the galaxy at large, or by killing himself and his family, but he didn't want to do that because it would mean letting the people who betrayed his family get away with it all, and he hopes he can find a better path. Once he's assumed the mantle of the prophecy and become known to the Fremen and achieved a few feats, he comes to realise that the galactic jihad is basically inevitable. By that point, he's just trying to do damage control while still achieving his objectives.
@@NarendraTheComic not just the price of freeing Arrakis. That i think he would accept. But what comes next.
Head nodding
Glad you agree - nonsensei
We loved Dune Pt. 2. I personally cannot wait for the continuation of the story! - nonsensei
Did you know that Timothée Chalamet is part Indian
This is news to me, but I feel as if I should fact-check this... - nonsensei
@@NarendraTheComic his part Indian and French and has Jewish ancestry
Jihad incoming..