Vintage German 1950's Orienta Student Fountain Pen With Folded Nib Unboxing and Review
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2024
- A viewer of mine recently gifted me a wonderful Fuliwen 2055 "Ancient Civilization" fountain pen. I did a review of it which you can see linked below. In the same box, I was surprised to find a vintage German fountain pen from the early 1950's called an "Orienta". It has a unique folded nib and is new old stock (NOS) and never has been inked in almost 70 years! I unbox the pen and then clean it up and put ink in it and write with it for the first time ever. This is a very interesting and vintage writing experience.
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Timestamps:
Unboxing 0:53
How I cleaned it up 5:22
Parts and Features 9:09
Measurements and Size Comparisons 11:47
Writing Sample 12:17
What I like and don't like 15:41
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The cork piece is really cool, never saw that before. Great clean up-restoration work.The guitar pick guard explanation was sublime. Quite some knowledge!!! Kudos to you Sir.
Glad you liked it!
Ebonite isn't the same as Bakelite, Doug, even for us oldies. Ebonite is a brand name for a type of hard, vulcanised rubber while Bakelite is a brand name of a type of synthetic plastic. Regardless, it's an interesting pen!
Thanks for the clarification, Nick! I thought it was the same heavy, brittle, black plastic they used to make telephones out of. And I didn't know they were both trade names like Kleenex. Never too old to learn stuff!
@@InkquiringMinds It is, but that is not the only form of it. Often used asbestos as the filler in the resin to make the strong bakelite, but wood shavings/dust and other things can be used as the filler. Black colorant/dye is added so you dont see the chunky filler in the material, so most bakelite tends to be black or other solid color. As it is an excellent insulator and can deal with much higher temperatures than ither modern plastics it is still used as insulator in high voltage installation, but not really used elsewhere. The rotating switch in desk lamps is usually made with bakelite (or ceramics) for the insulating part as it is still the cheapest option.
Well done, I enjoyed this. A pen I have never heard of but as you show, typical of pens from that era & geography. Oh, when nibs on students (low cost) pens had character, how we long for those days.
Thanks, Chris. A very unique writing experience for sure!
My school had those ancient desks even in the 1980s, and they were very very old by then, and looked older still with all the abuse heaped on them by generations of students. Mid way through my elementary school years, probably in the 5th grade they got finally replaced with modern desk and chairs. These old desks were all connected together, and more like pews with writing surfaces on the previoys pew. The flip up seats were another "feature" for some reason. And one could only sit comfortably facing straight forward as there was no adjustment.
Here too!
WOW, what a great pocket pen for sketching! I have a folding nib that has a similar character.
I had never seen a folded tip nib before this one.
@@InkquiringMinds I think modern steel is strong enough that this doesn't need to be done even in absence of tipping.
Thanks. Makes me want to revisit similar pens in my collection! Look forward to the Pelikan 200.
Thanks, edc! Coming soon! :)
Nice find, Doug.....Certainly my kind of pen. Love the writing sample as well. Enjoy.
Thanks! Yeah I found it in the same box with the Fuliwen 2055 that Joel Turrell gave me! And added bonus on top of a bonus! :D
@@InkquiringMinds I enjoy a .6 or .8 nib....This pen seems to write like either. Very cool that you are the first to ink it .....🖋✒
So, I'm 55 and the elementary school I attended had inkwells in the desk....Ahh, the good old days...If you ever think of selling this pen, I would be interested, Sir Douglas of Canada.
Yeah my school had the ink wells as well but we never used them. Email me! djrathbun@gmail.com
Only here due to your video cross promotion. Well done.
Awesome, thank you!
How interesting to follow you! ”Like writing with a quill for the first time”. Maybe we will some day see a video of you writng with a birds feather? Just think of the young students having to master writing with these pressure and angle sensitive nibs! The untipped but twisted instead of folded nibs (dauer feather type) are much more tolerant to shifting writing angles. Maybe that was the reason for there being a lot of brand new, but unsold Orienta pens?
They must have made these things by the thousands for school kids. So it isn't unusual that there was so much NOS.
Douglas Rathbun It may be so.
Sir, Thank you for the video. It made me remember my school days. In India, we used to write with a fountain pen regularly. I started using ball point pen and roller ball pens during my college. However, I still write my PhD notes with fountain pens. But, the kids now prefer roller ball pens over fountain pens. I really think they're missing the feel of writing with a fountain pen. And at the end, its incomplete without talking about the cap you are wearing. You look like an aged Indiana Jones 😁. Handsome 👍
Ooooh! Indy Jones! That's a real compliment! Thanks, K! I too, grew up with fountain pens. Using a fountain pen to write and re-write notes is the key to learning and understanding. It makes you slow down and consider the information rather than simply recording or regurgitating it. Here endeth the old professor's lesson.
@@InkquiringMinds Sir, your lessons are awesome. That's the reason many of us are regularly attending your classes. We are listening to your classes as soon as you post it😁
Having used quill, it is a real pain in the neck, but it is a unique writing experience. Very picky, much more do than dip pens, although some glass ones can be a bit temperamental as well. Unuque that the writing experience can be adjusted with a blade, ergo the existence of pen knifes, and why many vintage letter openers have a folding sharp blade in the handle. Very scratchy, and very soft at the same time, which is strange. You can buy prepped or even cut feathers these days. Getting raw feathers ready requires a few steps, including boiling and such. Few helpful tutorials on the process on CZcams if you fancy a try.
Thank you, Martin! I'm horrible at flex, feathers or no.
@@InkquiringMinds Feathers aren't really flex like Spencerian Copperplate. They are better described as soft. You get the line variation as you write, but you can't push them like you can steel. It is very different sort of feel. And of course they have limited life span no matter what you do. That is why mediaval European monks always kept geese. Good tutorial for making your own medievaljourney.com/2014/12/27/making-a-feather-quill-step-by-step-tutorial/ or you can cheat and buy pre-made ones.
OOOH AHHHH! Love vintage! The nibs provide a unique writing experience don't they? Vintage Esterbrook 2xxx series nibs were also "folded" - surprisingly smooth too. Nice subtle line variation. Be careful, these pens can be VERY addictive! Can't wait for the Pelikan review.
Hey, pete! I'd never even heard of a folded nib before!
@@InkquiringMinds Cheaper to make, but didn't last as long. Figure back then pens were probably used for hours a day! That's what I love about this "hobby" all the interesting things to learn that you never knew!
@@InkquiringMinds Schneider still uses them on their cheaper pens. I have a video coming up in the future on one of them.
Doug, you made a silk purse out of a sow's ear! I would never have had the courage to use Tarn-X on a pen - I won't even use it on heavily tarnished silver. I too found the nibs on these pens worrisome, and so I thought that perhaps they were only available to the younger students, with the expectation that adolescents were expected to graduate to a Pelikan-level product.
Thanks again for providing the pen Joel! It is cool to hold an old Pelican M200 next to the Orienta since the look and feel similar. Of course they don't write the same. I got the same impression that these were for very young hands.
Gosh, would you just look at this pen! What a beauty. I was wondering if you would be willing to sell this pen to me? It would be wonderful to have the honor of writing with this pen
Thanks, Arlo. But the pens were donated to me. I'm going to try to restore them to working order and I don't think I could sell them.
Herb Alpert?
LOL yeah. On an earlier video, I used more than 10 seconds of it and got a copywrite claim. So now it is just 4 seconds.