Record MIDI From Your External Keyboard, Fix It and Record Back as Audio
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In this video, I demonstrate how to record MIDI into Logic Pro, fix the MIDI, and then set Logic Pro to record the audio playback from the triggered external keyboard (in this case the Nord Stage 3).
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00:00 - Intro
00:13 - Explain Record MIDI, Edit, and Record as Audio
01:30 - Keyboard, Computer, and Audio Interface Setup
05:27 - Configure Logic Pro for MIDI Recording
09:08 - Record MIDI Track into Logic Pro
10:11 - Edit MIDI in Logic Pro
22:37 - Play MIDI and Record Audio
28:56 - Recap
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What’s the difference between this method and bouncing the midi track to audio?
@MsTessG Hi Tess! Well, technically speaking, there is no difference in the end result as far as I can tell. And, I think it's actually easier to "Bounce in Place" by right-clicking on a given MIDI segment and then letting it do its thing (easier to set up). Truth be told, when I made this video, I didn't realize (or perhaps it wasn't a feature back then) that you could bounce in place from MIDI to audio. Works like a charm! I also appreciate that when you do this when the MIDI is assigned to a software instrument, the bounce happens at light speed because it renders it internally (versus real time). Good points - I'm going to pin this comment as a time saver for others.
Pro Tip: when you "Bounce in Place," the default behavior is for Logic to create a brand new audio track each time. If, however, you already have an audio track you want to use, you can select that first, then right-click on the MIDI you want to bounce. By doing this the screen will provide another option for you to use the "Selected track," which will then add your MIDI/audio to your existing audio track without having to create a new audio track each time.
@@MyKeysToMusic Thank you!
Another excellent informative video! And the piece you played was wonderful. Great job Marc!
Glad you liked it Darrick! This one took a while too (lots of editing). But I'm not saying anything you don't already know! 😉
loved the video. very elaborate and descriptive.
Thank you Naman! I had fun making it too.
I love this, you're so detailed and organized with your explanations, thank you!
Thank you @Samuel L It's very nice of you to leave a comment like this. As I mentioned in the video, this is sort of a hard thing to cover in detail, let alone explain in a single title. But the end result works, I think!
Look for more videos around MIDI and such in the coming months. The only reason I've been reluctant to tackle these topics is the massive amount of tech support that goes along with it here in the comments. Everyone wants an advanced setup, but the pain to get there can be a long-uphill battle at times. Yet, 9 times out of 10, it's worth it when people finally achieve the results they were going for and are happy with what they end up learning as a result along the way.
Marc, thank you, exactly what I was looking for, easy to follow and ive got my setup working as I wanted now.
@peterlake3899 Well done Peter! Glad the video helped. 👍🏻
Not only did I get an answer to my dilemma, I got a unique interpretation of Rachmaninov's Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini!
@theScreamingPope, I'm happy to hear this, and thanks for leaving a comment about it. Good luck with your music! 🎼
Excellent presentation, thoughtful and covered in great detail thanks so much.
Thank you @fergfurlong for taking the time to write this comment. It means a lot to know these videos help people.
It was very helpful to me! Thank you so much!!!
Glad it was a help!
you are just great, and so clear when you teach! thanks!
Thanks @Tony Migliore appreciate the comment and thanks for watching!
Exactly what I was after! So cool to be able to do this. Thank you!
@eve Glad you found the video! Like I said in the video, finding this video on how to do might be harder than actually doing it. Enjoy your music...🎹
Such a brilliant video , thank you . I will try this with my fantom .
@fazegregpaul3152 Thanks for your comment! It should work well with your Fantom
this video is exactly what I was looking for! thank you so much!
Glad to hear this Wise John! Thanks for watching. 🤙🏻
I needed this tutorial thanks. You slowly explained it!! Which is a must for me as a beginner...
@JackSinclair-xi7yo Thanks for the comment Jack. Yes, this is a lot to swallow for a beginner. Assuming you are new to keyboarding as well, then you have two mountains to climb. The first is to understand the tech part and the second is to continue your journey as a keyboardist and all the challenges that go along with that! But, using MIDI will allow you to forgive a lot of sins and have you fix up your performance as needed. Good luck on your journey!
Excellent thank you
@andrewmountainpike8264 Thanks for leaving a comment, Andrew - good luck with your music recordings!
Very beautifully explained!!! I was searching for a video just like this for soooooo longg!! Thank you so very much!!
@user-bd2po6dp8i Glad it was helpful and glad you found it!! (I knew it would be hard to find, but you did!)
@@MyKeysToMusic Yess! 😄😄
Great info here. Thank you. The first minute of your video was also very validating…I didn’t exactly know what to search for!
Thank you Peter. So glad you found the video!
Hello Mark, I can't express enough my gratitude for this video. So thank you, thank you and again thank you
Hello @Venant Uwiringiyimana - thank you for leaving such a strong and positive comment here. So happy the video helped you!
Jump bump into this video and I love it....clear explanation ....👍
@Bruce.-Wayne Thanks for your comment - it's appreciated!
👌👌 Amazingly detailed tutorial. Than you
@MintaCreativeArts Manjeet, glad you like it and good luck with your recordings!
Thanks for this, I am new to the world of hardware based Synths, and I just couldn't work out how to get Logic to record Audio. Now, I do. Thanks again. I have hit like, and subscribed. Cheers.
Thank you @Mike Hughes glad to have you... Good luck with your recordings!
VERY USEFUL! Thanks!
Glad you found this lesson and that you found it useful Alessandro! Enjoy your music…
Thanks you, I was searching for a lifeline!! 🫡
Happy you found it! Good luck with your music...
really helpful thankyou!!!
Glad it helped!
I normally hate mid-roll ads but this video is worth every single ads I had to watch!! 😜 Thank you very much, it's simply awesome! 🙌🏽
Thanks for your comment, glad you liked the video!
Thank you for an excellent explanation on the basics of using MIDI/Audio with a DAW. You method of teaching and attention to detail is exemplary and very easy to follow. Many thanks Marc.
Thank you @michaelantcliff5906 Your comment is much appreciated!
You are a brilliant teacher. Explained things EXCEPTIONALLY well! Hope others find what i found here too.
Thank you @Edmund Teoh This is a very nice thing to say and very much appreciated. I'm glad to have this video available to help explain these important and sometimes hard-to-find / hard-to-understand concepts.
this video is a lifesaver
@mattpachecomusic Glad it helped Matt! Good luck with your recordings...
Brilliant watch Mark and been looking forward to this after asking the question to you a while back. You explain every single instruction so so well. Looking forward to now putting this into practice. Oh and a very beautiful piece of music. Thankyou
Hello @Stevie G Wow! Yes, we finally got this one done, and yes, you were one of the people that requested this waaay back! Thank you because it was a terrific request. I'm actually giddy with joy having this one finally out there as it has been on my mind to do for months and months. So, now that this big one (and it was a big one) is complete, I can start to do some other MIDI related topics like working with external controllers and I'm seriously thinking about a series designed for people who specifically own multiple Nord keyboards and the various ways they can go about setting up their live performance rig. Stay tuned...
@@MyKeysToMusic That would be awesome. I play live quite a bit and I'm always open to new ideas!
@@darrickkeels6387 Awesome! Stay tuned...
Thanks!
Welcome! Thanks for the comment! @Steven Jaskulsky Oh, and thank you for the donation too!
Thanks for sharing!! Very useful video :)
Thank you Tiago! Good luck with your music. 🎼
THIS MAN IS DA GOAT FR thank you Mr Keys you made me so happy ❤️❤️❤️
@jam9064 Hey Jam! That is a mighty fine compliment! And 'tis the season' to be listening to Mariah!! 🎤 🎵
So detailed and clear thank you you got me set up :-)
Great to hear!
BEST VIDEO ON TH E TOPIC!!!!!!! THANKS BOSS YOUR THE MAN G!!!!!!
Thanks for the extreme compliment here @DJ SIKSTE ♪ Appreciate it!
Thank you SO much, Marc! Very grateful you took the time to put this video together. This will allow a lot of people to make the music they want, or maybe never thought they could, because they now know how to make their gear work for them. A gift!
Thank you, @sarahstevenot3417 for your generous comment! It's nice to be appreciated, but more importantly, it's good to know these videos are helping people.
@@MyKeysToMusic Hi Marc, around time stamp: 8min, you tested the Nord, and there's Signal, as well as Audio. There is no "i" checked, Input Monitoring. How did the audio come through?
@@jamesphua1044 Hello James - the reason I hear the sound is that my headphones are connected to the audio interface. Alternatively, with headphones plugged directly into the computer, you would have to select the "I" to turn on input monitoring in order to hear your audio. Here is another video explaining how I do the audio setup with GarageBand (which is the same concept): czcams.com/video/UU6j5o3YfaA/video.html
You taught me something new.I’ve never used midi ever. Thanks for the lesson.
Glad to hear it! Thanks for the comment.
Thank you so much!
Being a Cubase user for years, i swapped to Logic a while back and all tutorials for using external synths advise using the External Instrument plugin.
I've had endless problems with that plugin. Track mutes/Solos don't work, even switching tracks on and off doesn't always mute them. there's teriible 'phasing' introduced by the round trip latency and in the end the whole thing becomes pointless at the point of having to record the audio to separate audio tracks for final mixing (as i've always done in Cubase) anyway.
So stupid I didn't try the same method as i used to use in Cubase, like you do here.
I wrongly asumed from all these tutorials that the external instrument plugin was the only method in Logic. Swear i tried this method when i forst got Logic installed... I bet i had some stupid routing or something going on.
So glad to find out how to just record as i used to in Cubase (a folder track full of MIdi tracks to record note data and then a folder track of audio channels to record the synth's audio for mix.) Clean. Simple. Solid.
Hello Martin. Well, it sounds like you have a ton of experience recording and it's nice to have validation from someone like you that the method demonstrated here does the trick! Best of luck with your recordings and report back if you learn anything new about this beyond what we have here etc. Thanks!
What a great explanation and presentation ... I found you by accident, and I am jazzed! You're a great teacher! I'm a subscriber ,,, Keep it coming!
Thanks for stopping by and dropping a comment @jessacuna 👍🏻
Thank you so much!!!👏👏👏👍👍👍
You are welcome! Thanks for watching!
This is exactly what I was looking for. So great to hear technical advice from a real musician!
Thank you so much for confirming that my design for a new setup is correct (especially "no External Hardware plugin") .
I've used Logic between 1991 and 2003, then I had to switch to Windows. I stopped music production for about 15 years, then got the bug (and time) again. I had this monster PC fitted for high-end 3D work, so I tried every DAW on earth in Windows, and none really fitted the workflow you describe here (which is as old-school as it gets, and the best if you work with external hardware.) I settled on Mixbus 32c for a while, but it's buggy and the UI highly inconsistent, mostly because it's based on Ardour, and that is such a pain in the a**...
I recently bought the new Mac Mini for other tasks, and suddenly realized I could USE LOGIC AGAIN on that powerful little beast!
It's such a great feeling to have a deep, clearly designed and non-buggy DAW again. Now I need to modify my MOTU AVB audio setup and Iconnectivity MIDI routings, and find out why names of I/O are replaced by numbers in some of the Logic UI.
Thanks again, and warmest congratulations on the piano playing!
@Taka Takata Wow! Thank you so much for your comment and for sharing your story. Gosh, I love the new Mac Mini, the M1 chip, and the "little beast" changing the opportunities for musicians all over the world. What you say is indeed so true! Glad the video helped inspire you at just the right time. We creators often need the comments back like this at just the right time as well - many thanks for making it all worth it! - Marc
Thank you for all the content, I really learned a lot, And I almost watched all of your uploads, Still waiting for my NS3 tho.
Keep it up (:
Hello Moha Saud! So glad you learned a lot. Hopefully, your Stage 3 will arrive soon. I think the Compact versions are hard to come by these days (not unusual in today's world I guess).
Great tutorial, as usual.
I will pass this on to my buddy,
who has adopted my "old" Stage 3.
But…
I realise that I am venturing in to the advanced course,
but still I think it’s good to know.
I don't think you mentioned the monitor issue
when capturing the audio.
I have no personal experience of the Scarlett,
so that may not be an issue in this specific case.
You began by listening to the Nord directly,
through the audio interface.
When you then record the audio and assign the output of
the Logic track to main out, you create another discrete audio path.
One directly from the input of the audio interface
and one through Logic to the audio interface.
Due to the latency of the software and the serial nature of MIDI 1.0,
one signal will be delayed, causing a static phaser-like sound.
Most capable audio interfaces will have the
possibility to affect the routing/monitor chains.
So I would use the direct monitoring during the MIDI part
and then switch the monitor routing to Logics output when recording audio.
That way you’ll hear the entire recording chain, which is preferable.
A quick and dirty method is to, at first,
leave the output of the Logic track unassigned.
And only assign it when the audio recording part is finished
and you’ve muted the MIDI track.
In this case I would listen to the entire recorded audio track
for validation of the audio quality.
Just my 2 cents 𝄢🎶
Love these videos! You were talking about enhancing the piano sound with effects. I'm in the process of trying to sculpt a piano sound (reverb, compression, etc.) Would love to see a video of you making "your perfect piano sound." Thanks for the videos :)
Hello Ross. What you heard here in this video is a solo piano. For that style, you can use just about any of the large Nord Grand pianos (Royal Grand 3D and/or White Grand) and go from there. You can apply the "soft" EQ setting if you're looking for a rich texture and add a healthy dose of reverb which is a decent setting for solo piano like this. That will get you in the ballpark I think. Then work with the EQ (maybe compression, but for sure EQ). You can always add a bit of delay too to taste which is an interesting and neat effect for piano sounds I like at times.
If however, you're in a band setting, a lot of people turn to the "Bright Grand" which favors the higher frequency levels a bit which people report tends to "cut through" the mix a whole lot better. So, when looking for the "perfect" piano sound, I think you have to consider the context of the music you are playing, the instrumentation of that music, and the room you find yourself in (if performing live). For example, if you use a "lush grand sound" during a gig, you will likely be disappointed fighting against 2 guitars, bass, and drums. What sounded so beautiful at home will likely sound "terrible" playing live. So, plan accordingly and sometimes you won't know exactly what the final adjustments will be until you hear it through once or twice.
Great video Marc!!! You've also convinced me to upgrade to Logic Pro from Gar(b)ageBand and purchase a Focusrite audio interface -- which will also allow me to incorporate my old Yamaha DX7 and Kurzweil Mark 10 keyboards into the mix since they use the old-style MIDI cables.
Wonderful @davevaebutyoy And long time no speak. Hope all is well. I think it's a worthy upgrade. Be warned... There is a NEAR LIFETIME of learning you can have with Logic Pro - it's' that huge. But yet, things like basic recording (as you've seen in this video) are only a touch more difficult than GarageBand. And the topper on the cake is to eventually use MainStage for your live rig to incorporate the old DX7 ad Kurzweil. But Logic will play with these boards nicely. Nice to hear from you and don't forget to use my affiliate link in the description if you don't mind using Amazon for the purchase (no pressure either way) - just sayin'. All the best Dave...
excellent video. Very nicely paced tutorial. Just subscribed. Thinking about buy a Nord Stage 4 and an audio interface you discussed. I am in Glasgow Scotland
@CampervanEcosse Thanks for the sub! If you have questions, feel free to ask. There is also a good forum called the Nord User Forum. There are also several FaceBook groups too.
Amazing! I didn't think such tricks were possible. Thank you!
Happy to help. There are many tricks for all sorts of things in Logic, it's a matter of uncovering them. These programs are so huge and amazing that I feel you'd need another lifetime to learn them all! 🎶
@@MyKeysToMusic Yes, that's an apt way of putting it, I often pondered how many weeks and months I'd need to fathom a 1026-page long user manual. Should you have any more secrets like that I'd feel privileged to listen to them.
@@lospopularos I do have plans on doing more with Logic later in the year or next. Covering things like how it interacts with Nord keyboards in particular. The new Nord Stage 4 for example, has more powerful MIDI options and flexibility defining when and how the CC messages are handled and I think people would appreciate seeing the details on all that. To this day, there seems to be a shroud of "Mystery in MIDI" that people don't dare explore for fear of being overwhelmed. I get that! What's amazing to me is that the MIDI standard which started in the 80s still holds up here in 2023 and beyond. MIDI 2.0 is officially out but I don't think there is much support for it yet on actual boards. It will be interesting to explore all this...
@@MyKeysToMusic MIDI is easy in its basic, automatic, plug-and-play form. But when it gets complicated it's an absolute nightmare, till this day I've no idea what 95% of the terminology means.
@@lospopularos I would absolutely love to make a "taking the mystery out of MIDI" course available somehow. Maybe after these two remaining Nord keyboard master classes, I can target that. I think people could benefit, and I think I have a way of explaining things that most could grasp without getting too geeky along the way. In other words, I'd keep it focused on MIDI as it relates to making music versus trying to teach someone computer programming or getting too in the weeds with the raw chromosomes of MIDI and its construct. For sure something to think about. 🎹
Great! thanks a lot for this. Just want to know, how different is this from 1. creating a midi track and 2. bouncing the midi track to audio...Is there any difference in audio quality? Please what are your thoughts? Thanks
If I understand your question correctly, there is no difference in audio quality since you are recording everything directly from the keyboard audio as the original source. MIDI is just the trigger for the notes. We're not really "bouncing" in this situation. We're making our first audio recording directly from the keyboard for the first time (after the MIDI is fixed). Let me know if this answers the question or please ask your question in a different way if I'm not getting it.
Thaks a lot Mark... I was just looking for an explanation about MIDI sound from Yamaha P45 to Logic Pro. Unfortunately, the P45 doesn't has an output, so I have to use the headphone jack to send the sound to the audio interface. Im trying to use a cable to connect the headphone jack to the R and L input from the audio interface. Hope it works!
Hello Julian. Are you using a cabling solution like this? (affiliate link) amzn.to/3DmGpTd that should work to get this process to work for you.
Very useful tutorial, even though I use another DAW
Very happy to hear this. Yes, the concept is the same no matter which DAW you use, but of course, the mechanics are somewhat different between them.
Hello! I’m using a Silent System Kawai piano to record MIDI into Logic Pro X. My problem lies I can’t seem to convert the MIDI stems I’ve created into audio/wav files…
I can’t seem to find the right cable to connect my MIDI ports on my piano into my Scarlett interface 😢
Hello @Adam Johnson Pianist UK Are you still working on this? You'll want to have the MIDI come back into the Silent interface and then have the triggered audio from Silent come back into the Scarlett by way of two 1/4" TS cables plugged into the front of the the Scarlett. (Look for the 2 "line out" ports on your Silent interface - this is where the audio will come from back into logic by way of the Scarlett).
SO HELPFUL. Thank you! So here’s a question: is there a way to send multiple MIDI tracks back to the keyboard simultaneously? Such as piano on channel 1 and bass on channel 2? It might be best to do one track, but I’m curious. All of your videos are great, Marc.
Hello @Julie Spangler Thanks for your comment and question! Yes, you can send multiple MIDI tracks back to the Nord separated by 2 channels (one for Panel A and one for Panell B) if you'd like. And yes, the DAW should have no problem making a track assigned to each channel (two tracks total). You are however limited to 2 independent channels. And what you'll "hear" is whatever each engine on the Nord is active. After you are happy with a particular track's performance (and sound), you can bounce that to an actual audio recording and commit it. Then that frees up your Nord for track 3, 4, 5 and so on as you repeat the process. But the bottom line is you could have MIDI driving two channels/tracks at the same time with the Nord suppling the sound in real-time for both - each on its own panel. Hopefully that answers the question and don't be shy if you have more questions. Thanks for being a fan...
thank you! Super useful video!
I have a question...Does recording the midi record also the knob positions? In other words, if I record a section and while playing I turn the mod wheel or change the cutoff frequency of a filter when playing it back in order to record the sound, will the keyboard perform those changes in setting too?
@enricogiust Hello Enrico. Sorry for the massive delay with this response. By now you may have already figured this out but the short answer is "Yes!" all the knob positions and buttons send MIDI out to be captured in a DAW in the areas that Nord programmed them. You can see a list of CC #s in the back of the manual of a given Nord keyboard. And, so long as your keyboard is set to send/receive MIDI CC settings, when you play back the MIDI, the Nord will follow suit. So yes, you can record and play back the automate MIDI performance of your Nord keyboard for other items beyond just the notes (similar to how your DAW captures the sustain pedal).
can you use the Nord as midi controller. using plug ins an sounds from logic itself as apposed to using the nord 3s sounds
@ProdAGee Hello Prod-A-Gee, absolutely! Nord keyboards can be used as a MIDI controller (of sorts) to drive MIDI into Logic which would then trigger Logic sounds. You can do this by way of the USB port or the standard MIDI port from the back of the Nord into the computer and/or MIDI interface.
Thanks ! This is an excellent explanation from the ground up. I was also exactly in tune with you in the editing and also do my own interpretations of classical pieces. What I want to do is create sounds on my synth and use these to build up tracks - and layer other tracks eg drums on top. I want to be able to edit the synth takes (in case of wrong notes and timing) and also align the timing of the synth takes with the other tracks (eg druns). I can use flex time in garageband to adjust the timing of the audio track but not the pitch (can in logicpro). I can't quantise an audiotrack - can only do in midi. So in summary I want to be able to capture the midi and audio at the same time - so that the midi plays the synth sound. The USB connection from my synth only carries midi - but if I use logicpro then can the midi play the synth? And if yes then do I need an audio interface ? Sorry if sounds a bit confused but hope you can understand what I'm trying to accomplish. Thanks
@richie694 Richard, sorry for the delay on this response. Logic/GarageBand should both allow you you to capture MIDI and Audio at the same time (even if that audio comes from the MIDI track you are recording). czcams.com/video/8mrKV35_45Q/video.htmlfeature=shared.
I still think that the best way to do all this would be to have the MIDI track as your foundation. Fix all that and get it perfect. Then use the MIDI to trigger the audio. All tempo can be synced with the master track in Logic/GarageBand.
Pro tip: If you are starting with a pre-recorded audio track from a famous song and you want to synth to that and then add your own parts, you'll use Logic to determine the tempo first upon importing the audio for the first time. Then build your MIDI around that original tempo, and then finally your audio. That's what I had to do for this song: czcams.com/video/-_bJlgLlutU/video.htmlfeature=shared
Really insightful video thank you. I'm a bit stuck, I've got a signal from my midi keyboard into Logic I can hear it fine but nothing records do you have any ideas?
@Ifilmshiz Hello Harvey. Assuming you are hoping to record the audio from your actual external keyboard, I recommend that you watch this other video which will show you how to do this with GarageBand, but the same theory applies in logic. Maybe that will get you past this hurdle: czcams.com/video/UU6j5o3YfaA/video.html. I also show you how to connect the audio here in this video as well at this exact location: czcams.com/video/V_FGQ83xH0Q/video.html
@@MyKeysToMusic all good thank you I sussed it. Went with audio instead of external instrument/midi and it gave the option to record!
@@Ifilmshiz Bravo Harvey! Well done - best of luck with your recordings...
Hi Mark, I have the NORD 6HP. Will these steps work on the kind of keyboard I have? BTW, thanks for all the tutorials.
@Blessieabcdefg123456 Hello Blessie! Hello from another California resident...Yes, these steps work equally well for a Nord Electro 6. Congrats on your CZcams channel, and best of luck with your teachings...
Thank you😀
Hello Mark, Great video as always! Is it possible to use the Nord stage 3 to just as a midi keyboard and select sounds in logic to play? If I'm not mistaken, this video shows the Nord stage 3 being recorded as midi notes in logic but using the sound of the Nord itself. Is there a way to just use the Nord as a midi trigger and select sounds in logic and do I then select software instrument instead of external midi contrary to this case in the video? Thanks a lot and would appreciate your reply!
Yes you can! In fact, this is a straightforward setup. You simply connect the Nord USB cable to the computer and you should have MIDI signals coming through to Logic out of the box (much like any other controller would provide). Just make sure that your "Global MIDI" channel on the Nord is on. Alternatively, you can dedicate the "Extern" section to your computer and separate things that way. That's a bit more to set up, but it has some nice advantages. You can get the basic concept of using Extern here: czcams.com/video/YyfWnqmsshM/video.html Good luck!
Thank you very much for this video, as it always happens to me, when I record the first midi and audio track i have no problems, but when I try to make a second midi audio track nothing is recognized from Logic, I set midi on both nord and logic into channel 2, is there something I am missing ?
Hello @Carloasis1 Hmm, this is hard to say without seeing everything you are seeing. It sounds like you are doing everything correctly. I wonder if there is a Logic support forum or something where you could get some additional help with this? I wonder if posting here would help? www.logicprohelp.com/forums/
Hi may I ask how can I connect Logic Pro x with my Roland fp30x digital piano? I have the usb plugged in to my MacBook from the piano without audio interface, but seems it is not receiving any MIDI probably due to my wrong set up inside the Logic Pro. How should I do that? Thanks. 🥺
Hello @Lee Zenobia Do a quick test if you can. Quit Logic and open up GarageBand instead temporarily. Attempt to drive the Garage Band Instruments via MIDI and your Roland. This will be a slightly easier setup and if you can prove that this works, it will help troubleshoot your connection to Logic. I just verified in the manual just now that the USB port does support MIDI and Audio. I couldn't find any place where you could adjust these settings and the manual doesn't elaborate at all for this functionality that I could find: static.roland.com/assets/media/zip/FP-30X_eng03_W.pdf
Hello. Don’t you have to turn off local control in the Nord Piano5 before recording the midi??
Hello Luis - I think the choice is yours on this, and it depends on how you ultimately have it set up. When I "perform" and record the MIDI, I like to hear the actual keyboard via the interface. So, I leave local control on, and I also remove any "monitoring" of the track from Logic. This allows me to have zero lag when recording, which I think is essential. If I instead turned off local control, I wouldn't hear the Nord keyboard at all unless I also turned on the track monitor in Logic. This would introduce potential lag. Or I suppose I could just listen to the virtual instrument sounds from Logic (which may be ok, too), and record the MIDI that way. But doing it that way won't represent what the final product will sound like if, in fact my final product is to hear the sounds from the external keyboard. Local control set to off really only applies to situations when you absolutely don't want to hear the sounds of the keyboard you are playing but rather the sounds of the keyboard/software you are controlling. So, in my opinion, and in the things I've done so far, I leave local control on - always.
FYI: There are multiple ways all of this can be setup so with every setup, a different set of configurations may be required and it's quite possible to have an effective setup with local control off too, but that doesn't correlate with how I did the lesson in the video here.
Hi Dude! Im here again, i ve just got my Nord Piano 5 which sounds amaizing with my Bose L1Pro. Then I followed your video and i haave succesfully recorded some staff in Logic. Now I have a nice one for you, Im trying now to use the Nord keyboard to record but instead of using the Nord sounds i would like to use the samplers from Logic pro library. Ive already spent some time trying to figure it out. What i would like to do is use the percussion samplers from Logic but leading them from the external keyboar. Hope im clear and you can helpe here! Thanx again for all these useful staff!
Hello @Tango Maluco At this point, the setup should be very straightforward.
1) Plug your Nord Piano 5 into the computer via the USB.
2) In Logic Pro create a new "Software Instrument" track
3) Set that track to drums/percussion
4) You should be able to control the drums from the Nord keyboard using selected keys.
Alternatively, you can create a new "drummer" track directly in Logic which will create a virtual drummer and get you started with a beat in the track.
At this point, you may want to check out CZcams for more videos on getting started with Logic and work on your skills that way. You can also take a full "Logic Pro" course on places like LinkedIn Learning or Udemy.com
@@MyKeysToMusic it works, thanks!!
@@juanmanueltellechea4981 Well done!!!
Thank you for this video!! i have the exact same setup as you so it's very helpful. Everything works if i select - 'Use External Instrument plug-in' and choose input 5 / 6. But when I uncheck 'Use External Instrument' I no longer get sound. I'll keep trying but if you have any ideas I would be eternally grateful.
@burchwoodstudio2548 Did you get past this hurdle? If you uncheck "use External Instrument," at that point, you may not hear the Nord, and it will look to the internal instruments, perhaps.
Can you tell me, how to use another midi tracking without changing the first one. If I played a piano and than I´d like to play some strings on another tracking, my piano is also played in strings. Hope you can help me.
Hello @Angela Tor It sounds like all you need to do is make your tracks on separate channels. If you are using a multi-timbral instrument like the Nord Stage 3 or the Nord Wave 2, then you can play two different sounds at the same time, each with its own track, provided you separate each sound from the keyboard on its own MIDI channel. What keyboard are you using?
@@MyKeysToMusic Hi, I think my problem is, that I cannot use the build-in sounds of my midi Keyboard, which is a Roland Juno DS. That´s what I wanna do.Logic recognize the notes but not the instrument of the Roland. I connected it via USB. Might be I need to use an Interface? Can you help me?
@@angela-tor Sorry for the delay with this comment. So, it sounds like you are correct. The USB from your Roland is just sending MIDI signals (which is not audio). Yes, you will need an audio interface and connect the 1/4 audio outs (left and right) to an audio interface. First have a look at my other video where I explain in an easy to understand way: czcams.com/video/UU6j5o3YfaA/video.html
Also, here is an exact thread where someone is attempting to do the same thing with their Juno: music.stackexchange.com/questions/80314/how-to-record-roland-juno-ds-sounds-onto-a-computer
Good luck and report back if you can...
hello, thanks for the video i did everything you explained but still cant hear sound on, the signal works fine but no sound coming out of monitor can you please help me. at the minute 8:29 i can hear the sound that you hear there
Hmm - this might be a bit tough to troubleshoot online here. You should be hearing audio from your keyboard when it's connected to the audio interface during the entire process. Do you have headphones/monitor connected to your Audio interface? And with that, you need to have your keyboard connected to the audio interface. You should use the audio interface as the one piece of equipment that provides the sound throughout the entire process. Also, note that your computer has to drive the audio (once it's recorded) back out into the interface too, for you to hear it.
@@MyKeysToMusic this i know but it seems just to dont be working, can you make a zoom call to help us out ?
@@WorshipinTongues Do you still need help with this?
Will this also work for any modulation i do while playing on the nord? So if i eg add an effect or turn the modulation wheel while playing, will the midi information contain that?
Many thanks
@brentrambo1180 Hello Diego! Yes, Logic captures any other MIDI CC# (via knobs and buttons on the Nord) as you record. So, for example, if you adjust the individual layer volume while recording, those CC#s are captured in the MIDI. Note that you have to ensure that the Nord has CC Send enabled in the MIDI system settings. Also note that in order to expose the CC#s in Logic, you may have to adjust your track settings to see them. CZcams and Apple Docs can help you in this area of MIDI with Logic as well.
Hi Mark. What type of cables do you use to connect the keyboard to the Focusrite? Is it TRS stereo cables or mono instrument cables?
@thegaindane Mono instrument cables only as the Nord boards are all unbalanced connections. So use the "TS" cable types. Good luck!
@@MyKeysToMusic We have a Roland Fantom 06 that have balanced output. Do I still use TS cables then? sorry for the beginner questions, I'm trying to help my son connect his keyboard to his 2i2 focusrite the right way :)
@@thegaindane Ah, in that case, use "TRS" cables as the Focusrite units can handle either connection type. Also, in your case specifically, you'll also the "INST" switch to off. You only need the INST set to "on" if you are connecting a guitar or a keyboard with unbalanced inputs. You can refer to page 13 of the online manual found here for more details and validation of what I'm reporting here: fael-downloads-prod.focusrite.com/customer/prod/downloads/Scarlett%202i2%203rd%20Gen%20User%20Guide%20V2.pdf
@@thegaindane For first-time Focusrite setups, you can refer to my video here as well: czcams.com/video/Mx2O7fY85xc/video.html
@@MyKeysToMusic Ok, Thank you so much for your help 🙂
This is exactly what I was looking for. Very difficult topic to search Google for. So glad I found your video!
Glad you found it too (and glad I made the video). Thanks for leaving a comment today and good luck with your music!
Hey there - 8:32 I am seeing signal from my Nord come through my daw. Signal on both my interface AND logic - However I can not hear the Nord through my headphones. I CAN hear the click through my headphones, but not the Nord. Any idea what it could be?
@user-ti4js3rv4z. Hello Evan! Hmm, it could be that your Focusrite isn't yet routed to the headphones via the rear inputs. Make sure you've done the one-time setup of your Scarlett product to assign the routing. Here's a video on that: czcams.com/video/Mx2O7fY85xc/video.htmlfeature=shared
I need to do that in Studio One with my Kurzweil PC 4-7, can it does?
Hello @Diego Morales So long as Studio One can record and playback MIDI using external devices, I would think you should be able to do this yes. Give it a try and report back if you can.
Hey Marc,
Thanks for this deatiled explanation. I want to use my RP701 digital piano as a midi controller in Logic Pro via USB. I've done the connections but I'm not able to trigger my Logic sounds with the RP701.
Kindly help your boy out. Thank you
Hello @Nana_Yaw_Ankama-Asamoah Well, it could be any number of things. Have a look at this video, it may cover something that was missed along the way perhaps: czcams.com/video/wrH1U2oTy0I/video.htmlfeature=shared
@@MyKeysToMusic Thank you for your timely response. I figured out the issue. I needed to update the driver of my digital piano
Happy to help!
Can you do this with an Electro 6d and Fl Studio?
@fliegenderwal8807 Hello Luis. Yes, you should be able to do this with the Electro 6D and FL Studio. I'll consider a future video for this but it won't be until later in the year if I manage it. Thanks for watching and enjoy your Electro 6!
Hi Sir. .... Its same way i can do in studio one 6...DAW...?
@lebate.j.1368 Lebat, yes, the same concept applies to FL Studio or any professional DAW, really. Of course, the step by step instructions will be completely different for each one, but the same concept applies which is:
1) Record the MIDI into the DAW.
2) Play back the MIDI into the keyboard to trigger the sounds from that keyboard.
3) Record the audio from the keyboard back into the DAW.
Is it working with focusrite 2i2 2nd?
@Kambar Kalendarov This would work with the Focusrite 2i2 2nd generation yes. In this video, I'm using the Focusrite 18i8 2nd gen.
Thanks Mark for this helpful video! To clarify, I have a Nord Piano 5 and a AudioUSB 96 interface and a MIDI cord. Would I be going Midi OUT from the Nord and Midi IN to the audio interface that connects USB? (Presuming the goal is to use Nord sounds for the Midi recording instead of my PreSonus programs?)
I think in my case, I may have done it backwards since I was getting my recording softwares sound choices instead of my Nord choices 😅
@Barndon Chase Thanks for your question. So, in your case (since your Audio USB 96 has an optional MIDI input), you could technically plug the MIDI from your Piano 5 into either the Interface by way of a 5 Pin DIN cable or directly into the computer via the USB port from the Piano 5 into the USB of the computer. In the video here, I used the USB directly from the Nord keyboard into the computer.
I think the issue here is that you need to find out how to set up your PreSonus program in a way so that the recorded MIDI track plays to an external instrument (not just the virtual instruments built-in with the PreSonus software). This might be something addressed in the manual or on various videos online perhaps?
@@MyKeysToMusic many thanks! I'll write again when I have an update on this. Seems like you hit the nail on the head.
@@e_brangelical Sounds good!
Hi Marc. Is it possible to use this method to take an arpeggiated pattern that is triggered from playing a chord on my keyboard (Korg Kronos) into Logic? I have found that the arpeggiated portion doesn't show up in the piano roll of logic.
Hello @Jane P Unfortunately, the arpeggiated pattern from just about any keyboard doesn't send each note out via MIDI. Patterns are performed within the keyboard itself and not translated to MIDI. Best to use a plug-in for Logic made for this. You'll still be able to use the Korg to play the notes, but the "arp engine" will be provided directly in Logic. I believe if you use the one in Logic directly, it can be translated to MIDI - but you still might have to find out specific instructions on how to do that as well (with yet another video). This video here will get you introduced to the concept of using an arpeggiator in Logic directly: czcams.com/video/-m92uIVtRvI/video.html
@@MyKeysToMusic I watched the other video you suggested and think it may actually help me! I'm trying to get a pattern from an arpeggiator to follow my own chord progression and not be bound to Apple Loops which only let me use their chord progressions. I shall dig into this in earnest and let you know how it goes. Thank you so very much!
@@janep1510 Glad to hear this!
That was a great video! Unfortunately i dont have a mac. Do you know about a program to Windows that can have the midi playing through back to keyboard as well? Ableton? :-)
@McAtorThaPirate, there are several pieces of software that can do this on Windows with their eyes closed. Here is a list for your homework/research:
*Ableton Live (Paid):* One of the most popular DAWs for both live performances and production. It's well-equipped with advanced MIDI capabilities.
*FL Studio (Paid):* It is very popular among electronic music producers. It has a unique workflow and a great selection of plugins.
*Pro Tools (Paid):* This DAW is a standard in many professional recording studios. It is highly effective for recording, editing, and mixing music.
*Cubase (Paid):* Created by Steinberg, Cubase is a comprehensive DAW that excels in MIDI composition and arranging.
*Studio One (Paid):* Developed by PreSonus, this DAW has excellent MIDI capabilities, a great workflow, and an intuitive interface.
*Reaper (Paid):* While not free, Reaper is cheaper than most of the others on this list, but still quite powerful. It also offers a fully-functional uncrippled trial version.
*Tracktion T7 (Free):* This is a fully-featured DAW that's free to use. It has robust MIDI capabilities.
*Cakewalk by BandLab (Free):* This is a completely free DAW with features comparable to the paid alternatives. It was once known as SONAR before being acquired by BandLab.
* Please note that the prices and versions of these DAWs can vary, and it's always a good idea to check their official websites for the most current information.
Good luck! 🖥
@@MyKeysToMusic thank you so much for a good answer! 😊
@@FlexMus Happy to help!
Could you please tell me how I can transfer or digitally record all of the songs I programmed on my 1980’s Korg T3 midi music workstation so I can have all the songs on an iPad and play live without the keyboard? I want to bring back to life all of those old great songs I programmed. Thank you.
@fishbustin7926 Good idea! Capturing the pre-recorded complete song as it plays from your Korg should be a matter of connecting it to your computer and recording each song one by one. Then, you can get an iPad app and move the recorded songs over to that (MP3 would be a good format to end up with). For example, you can get this app to trigger a simple pre-recorded MP3 sound: apps.apple.com/us/app/go-button/id454017315?platform=ipad
If you are new to to word of recording audio fro a keyboard, this video should get you started: czcams.com/video/UU6j5o3YfaA/video.htmlfeature=shared
I can see midi signals in logic but I couldn't hear any sound. Any suggestion?
Hello @Michael Dada - hmm - interesting. If you are seeing MIDI signals come in, that is a good sign. Next, try recording the MIDI (even if you don't hear anything). See if the MIDI notes appear on the timeline. If so, that means you are recording MIDI. If you want to hear your keyboard while you play (and it makes sense that you would want this), find out if the audio from the keyboard is also plugged into the Interface and that you are using headphones also plugged into the interface. Even though you are not recording audio at this phase of things, you'll still want to hear "something" while you record the MIDI. If you've managed to record the MIDI but don't hear it play back, it could mean that your MIDI out from that track isn't assigned correctly. Check the MIDI channel and look on your keyboard to see if it's MIDI lights are blinking/activating too. Hopefully, one of these double-checks will get you over the hurdle.
Great video, good information for Logic users. But, doesn't the Local control on the keyboard have to be set to OFF? I tried this set-up without setting Local control OFF and it had that weird phasing effect. Is there a difference in leaving local control off or on?
Hi Jim! Great question! So, after you record your audio track from the MIDI, any time you play the track back, you're going to hear two things:
1) The audio track you just recorded
2) The MIDI triggering the keyboard which causes you to hear the audio doubled, thus creating the phase effect because you are hearing both the newly recorded audio track along with the triggered MIDI as you play the track back.
If you note in the video, at 27:41 (czcams.com/video/V_FGQ83xH0Q/video.html), I perform the final playback, and we hear a "phase" effect. To get over this, I simply mute the MIDI channel from that point forward during playback so that all we hear is the newly recorded audio from the audio track. We are done with the MIDI at that point.
Local control is simply the concept of halting the physical keys from playing the sounds from the keyboard. You would set Local Control to off when you want to use your board as a controller and where you don't want to hear any of the internal sounds. With local control off, you can still trigger MIDI but not internal sounds. Also, note that incoming MIDI triggers your Nord to play with the local control turned on or off. Local control only has to do with turning off the internal sounds while you play the keys on the Nord.
Hope that helps clarify things. Let me know if I understand you correctly.
@@MyKeysToMusic Thanks for your detailed explanation, that makes more sense now!
@@jimhart908 Glad to hear that. Have fun with your recordings!
Love your video, looking for this from long time, thanks a lot.
Question: how do we do the same recording with styles from keyboard?
Really appreciate your reply or even one more video on this.
Hello Ricky thanks for your comment. I'm not exactly sure about your question. Can you ask this in a different way? I'm not sure what you mean by "styles"
@@MyKeysToMusic thanks for reply mate.
I mean, like piano, how can we record drums and rhythm from keyboard presets to DAW in midi and sound?
Sorry for the delay in this response. You can record the "audio" of the drums and rhythm of course directly into the computer and I have a video on that here: czcams.com/video/UU6j5o3YfaA/video.html. But what's interesting about keyboards that produce drums and rhythm accompaniment is that they will not send those out via MIDI but rather just the audio. What you might be able to do instead is capture the audio like normal into your DAW and then use the "convert to MIDI" feature offered by some DAWS whereby you can potentially use the MIDI later on for other things. The challenge there is that there are multiple notes /sounds that make up the rhythm and it may not be interpreted by the DAW accurately. I've never tried this but it's an interesting concept. Now as I say this, some keyboards may in fact enable their rhythm tracks to send the drums out as "standard MIDI" but I'm not really sure. It might be something you can experiment with. Here is a video on how one might go about converting audio to MIDI using Logic Pro. czcams.com/video/JlrLfk4ydcA/video.html. Using this same concept, you might find some interesting results if you attempt to convert the audio accompaniment from your keyboard into MIDI.
This explains a lot. Thanks for your reply.
@@shalomricky Happy to help. If you discover anything, do share.
Hi. I connect my Yamaha piano to The computer with M-Audio MIDISPORT UNO. My interface is UA twin X. I do not get recording of the piano although it seems the computer recognizes the MIDISPORT and the track records information but not what I record with the piano. Can I hear through the Interface if I only connected MIDISPORT ( Midi In, MIDI out ) to the computer with USB.? Where is my mistake. ? Hours, days lost and not able to resolve…
Hello @Pablo Fez. Arrieta Let me clarify things in a step by step way to see if this helps you out. We'll start at the very beginning to be sure we don't miss any steps. We'll start with the Audio part first.
*Audio Connections*
1) You'll be connecting the audio out of your Yamaha Piano directly to Mic/Line 1 and Mic/2 of your Twin X. To do this, you are going to be using standard 1/4" TS cables. One for the left channel and one for the right channel. This will preserve the stereo sounds of your keyboard.
2) Once you do #1 above, you should be able to plug headphones into the front of your Twin X and you should hear your piano. If you don't hear the piano, then you need to likely configure your Audio interface routing options. I have to believe there are videos already online to show you that or you could refer to the Twin X manual. (Most high-end interfaces like this and the Focusrite products allow you to route things in a variety of ways and sometimes they come out of the box configured in a way you don't expect.)
3) Now you'll connect your Twin X to the computer by way of the USB cable. Here is where you need to perform your first test. Go into your DAW and configure an AUDIO track to record the audio coming in from your Yamaha. Hit record and manually play your Yamaha. Stop recording and play it back in your DAW. You should hear the recorded audio of your Yamaha and your playing. If you can't hear the sounds of your Yamaha on an audio track, you need to stop here and seek help with the people from Twin X.
*MIDI Connections*
4) If you get step #3 to work, then you are half way there and you can proceed to this step. Connect the MIDI out from your Yamaha to the MIDI in in your computer using the MIDISPORT UNO. It appears that you already have this working and you already can play your virtual instruments on your computer so this step is likely already completed on your end. See if you can click record, play your Yamaha and then play it back. The DAW will play back your performance but it's likely that you are not hearing your Yamaha - but rather the virtual instrument you assigned in the DAW. This is typical because 99.9% of the people want this setup so this is what happens by default.
5) Now go into your DAW and see if you can set up a track to use EXTERNAL MIDI. You'll see me do this in the video here: czcams.com/video/V_FGQ83xH0Q/video.html This feature may or may not be supported by the DAW you are using. I assume it will work if you are using Logic Pro, Ableton and any of the other leading DAWs. They might be called something different however and you'll need to refer to your documentation and/or other CZcams videos to find this information out. By selecting an External MIDI option, it will use your Yamaha Directly as the MIDI in AND the MIDI out device (versus playing the sounds from your virtual instruments in the DAW). This is the key to entire setup. Without this, you'll have additional steps. In other words, you want your MIDI track to trigger your Yamaha as the target device to use during MIDI playback. If you can do this, they you're almost there. If you can't do this, stop here and seek more help - you need to get this to work with an External MIDI instrument. Your DAW documentation would be the first place I would go for this.
*MIDI Playback into Audio*
6) Record your MIDI performance. Using the MIDI track you set up in Step #5, record your MIDI performance by playing your Yamaha. Be sure that after you are done recording, you can push play in the DAW and you actually hear your Yamaha through the interface and the headphones you set up in step #2
7) Now that you have an External MIDI track that can trigger your Yamaha directly, you can create a brand new Audio track in your DAW (or use the track you set up in step #3 above). You can confirm that this is working again by repeating step #3 to be sure and to test. So this time you'll set the audio track to record while you push play in your DAW. The MIDI should trigger the Yamaha and your audio track should pick up the audio and record it directly. Yes, your DAW will be playing the MIDI back through the Yamaha while as the same time recording the audio coming in from the Yamaha. (That's the magic part.🦄)
I believe the most important thing here is step #5. I believe you are hung up on this step. It might require some more research in order for you to set up an EXTERNAL MIDI track in your DAW. For example, GarageBand can't do this and neither can many other DAWs - they are just not designed to work with external instruments in this way (for MIDI playback). However, nearly all the DAWs can record MIDI in and play the built-in virtual instruments on the computer. But this won't help you accomplish what we're doing here in this video and what you hope to do on your end.
Good luck and report back if you can... 🤞🏻🎹
When I use the modulation on Nord it is controlling the volume on logic....it makes me nervous! How can I Fix that? TY!
Which Nord keyboard are you using exactly? And which knob are you turning where it makes the volume in Logic activate?
@@MyKeysToMusic HI! I'm using the new stage 4. Its happens when I move the modulation . Thanks!!!
@ I figured this out. First of all, the effect you are hearing is not really volume in the traditional sense but rather MIDI velocity. Your Stage 4 sends out all kinds of information to Logic well beyond just the keys you are pressing. Logic is listening to everything, and the Nord Keyboard is sending everything. Just about any knob or button you push is sending either CC info or other controller info to Logic. The MIDI implementation on the Nord Stage 4 appears to be the most robust Nord has ever offered, so it took me a second to figure this out. "Someone moved my cheese"
So, if you don't want your velocity info to be sent to Logic by way of your Mod wheel, do the following on your Nord Stage 4:
- Go under the MIDI Menu in your settings
- Navigate to page 7 and select "DEV" (these are your MIDI _Device_ settings)
- Toggle the knob until it reads "off"
This will prevent the following controller info from being sent to Logic:
• Pitch Bend
• Modulation Wheel
• aftertouch
• Sustain Pedal
• Control Pedal
• Swell Pedal
• volume (Swell set to volume)
If you want to apply this option for ALL other CC info beyond what is mentioned above, then you need to also do this:
- Go under the MIDI Menu in your settings
- Navigate to page 7 and select "CC" (these are your MIDI _Control Change_ settings)
- Toggle the knob until it reads "off"
I'm glad you asked this question because I'll need to make a dedicated lesson in the Pro course for all this. Wow, they've come a long way with the MIDI options.
I've been trying to do this for a while now. Wow such a great video, explains everything and the navigation around logic so well.
I unfortunately have windows and use Ableton and Fl Studio. would anyone know a way to do this Midi to audio in on of those?
Thank you in advance
Im stuck on getting the DaW to trigger the midi on my Nord. So then it will go back into the interface.
I have used midi keyboards with the nord and I can make them trigger it. But I am at a standstill for this step the final step.
@@OpTicPalanio Thank you for your comment! Quick question. Which DAW is your primary? I thought both FL Studio and Ableton Live were DAWs. I'm confused why both are mentioned here?
@@MyKeysToMusic hello,
They are both Daws and I record in both of them separately. Just fun to experience the differences in them.
I think I may have found out how todo this with Midi out feature.
Thanks for the help anyways. Always informational
@@OpTicPalanio Glad to hear it. Have fun with your recordings... 🎧
Is it possible to keep the left and right hand notes on separate midi tracks?
Hi Tom. Great question! Yes so long as your keyboard and/or keyboard controller can create a split and send MIDI out on separate channels with each hand. So it would work something like this:
1) Split the keyboard (determine a split point that makes sense where your left hand will play only to the left of the split and your right hand only to the right).
2) Assign the left split to channel 1 (You have options between 1 and 16).
3) Assign the right split to channel 2 (You have options between 1 and 16).
4) Set your DAW to "Multi-track Record," assigning one track to MIDI channel 1 (left hand) and one track to MIDI channel 2 (right hand)
5) Set your DAW to record and start playing.
Note that not all keyboard/controllers can split into two channels like this. For the Nord Stage 3, for example, you can split the keyboard and use Panel A and assign that to the left on channel 1. Then you can use the "Extern" option and assign that to the right on MIDI channel 2. The more pricy keyboard controllers should also be able to do this.
Of course, you can go old school and use two keyboards with one on each channel and just play them simultaneously from a two-tier keyboard rack, etc. Both boards would have to be connected to the computer, each with its own cable. Remember that your playback (now that you have tracks assigned to two separate channels) could get interesting if you are hoping to hear both hands coming from a single external sound source/keyboard. But if you want to separate the left from the right, I have to assume that you are doing this so that you have the option to perhaps play different sounds from each hand (like two pianos, one better suited to the left hand and one better suited to the right?). Or perhaps you want to hear a bass guitar-like sample from the left and comping chords from pads on the right or something like that? Very interesting concept you've presented here...
@@MyKeysToMusic Many thanks for that. Much appreciated.
@@tomkent4656 Happy to help. Best of luck with your music! 🎹
Does this apply to Bluetooth Midi as well where everything is the same except just connect the external bluetooth instrument (electric piano) to Logic and then do all the same steps?
@bryfryable Yes, its pretty much the same exact concept but with a different MIDI connection.
Ok thanks!
great video Marc thank you so much! I do have one question I'm hoping you can help me with. I can't hear my MIDI track through my headphones and the digital piano audio is coming out of my Roland RD-88 speakers instead. This happens when I'm recording and listening to playback. When I turn my volume down on my digital keyboard itself, I can't hear the piano audio at all. Is there a way I can hear my MIDI track through my headphones instead? I'm recording vocals at the same time and it would be great to hear both my vocal and MIDI track through my headphones together. Thank you for your time!
@NiamhKeaneMusic Hey Niamh! Thanks for your question. Are you using an audio interface? It might be time to introduce that to your setup if you don't already have one. I explain this at the beginning of the video. This would likely solve a lot of the sound issues you're reporting here. Report back if you can.
Hey Marc thanks so much for your reply! I am using a Scarlett 2i2 Focusrite interface for my vocal and I have my MIDI lead connected directly to my laptop through USB @@MyKeysToMusic
@@NiamhKeaneMusic Got it! Ok, based on that setup, my original advice above still stands.
Hi dear, I have a problem...I have a Focusrite 6i6, I connected my Nord Stage 3 to the Focusrite input 1/2, and my headphones to the Focusrite headphone output but no sound comes out of the Nord, I have also tried the other sound card inputs Out 1/2 and 3/4 but I still can't hear any sound. I followed what you wrote to the letter. I also did a test to see if the headphone output works well and doesn't give me any problems. The only problem is that I can't hear my Nord from the Focusrite headphone output. I made all the settings requested in your explanation, therefore setting Midi channel 1 in the Nord Stage... and the signal arrives perfectly on Logic. I don't know what else to say, I'm doing something wrong but I don't know what. Thank you for your explanation
@redersy1 This may be because you need to do a one-time setup with your Focusrite. Watch this video next: images.app.goo.gl/gnJEvFMWbdt3RaeF7
I'm using Kontakt piano and my keyboard as midi controller in logic. The recorded midi is fine. However, when i bounce it into an audio track the damper pedal doesn't work on the first few notes. It's fine in the midi track, just the audio track has this fault. Any ideas?
I've found a way around it now. For anyone else having this problem I converted damper pedal into length of notes in piano roll first before bouncing the midi down.
@@jonos138 Brilliant solution! Thanks for sharing this! Cheers 🍻
I am desperately trying to do this with my V-drums, the MIDI is recognized and shows up, but I can't get any sound. Any suggestions?
@alyssa5859 So, I think now it's a matter of making sure that the MIDI track you recorded from the drums is configured to send the MIDI back out to the drums so that you hear them being triggered from the computer. I took the liberty to check out the manual for the Roland V-Drums TD -02, and the setup is pretty straightforward from that end of things so I think the issue is on the Logic side of things at this point.
You said you recorded without audio first, but how could we hear the audio while you were playing the midi?
Hello Robin! @Robin-wo3sm So, while I'm recording the MIDI into Logic, you are hearing the audio out from the keyboard at the same time via the audio interface. When I said I'm recording without audio first, I should have said, "Logic is only accepting and recording the MIDI signals when I play the keyboard. The audio you hear is coming from the keyboard but only through my headphones and only through the audio track for this video (so I can personally hear what I'm doing as a guide)." So, GarageBand was only recording the MIDI signals and ignoring the audio (even though we on the video and me in my headphones) can clearly hear the audio. The audio was merely a reference so that I could perform it.
Hope that makes sense!
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@@MyKeysToMusic Somewhere in Time, Ronin?
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i faced problem that piano roll can't recognize length note in external keyboard . I press 3 note in senquence but it record that 3 note at the same time in direct input mode from keyboard
Anyone know this problem pls help me ?
@haysongvoituduytichcuc9968 Not sure I can replicate this.
@@MyKeysToMusic it happpened just in direct input to piano roll, not in recording mode
@@Beautiful_PianoMusic Hmm, I took some time today to load all this up and it all works for me as expected. Maybe this question should be posted directly to a Logic Pro forum or Apple support. Perhaps there is one setting somewhere making it behave like this (but I couldn't find it). Good luck!
What if the light of the midi doesnt show? i have everything well connected.
Hello Maria. This is strange. If the MIDI light doesn't show, it has to be something with the basic connections. To help troubleshoot, start at the beginning as simple as possible and test along the way. Keep it simple by just plugging in your keyboard to the computer and bypass any interface you might have. Then, test to see if you can trigger MIDI on your computer. You can also test this in GarageBand first to see if you can get a basic MIDI connection there. Then, once you have that working in GarageBand, you know your wiring is correct. If you still don't see any lights in Logic, then check all your settings in Logic again. Good luck!
Hey Maria, I had the same problem but I just unplugged both of my usb cables and plugged them back in immediately and it fixed itself. Try that
Hi there! I really like your tutorials and using this setup I am trying to do the same in Ableton Live 11, but I am not getting it to work. So I used the exact same connections, so the USB from Nord to laptop and USB-C from Focusrite to laptop. I have my headphones in the Focusrite and the Headphone is configured to DAW 1-2 in the Focusrite Control software. In Ableton I have a MIDI Track with the MIDI From set to Nord Stage and Channel 1. When I now press a key on the Nord I can see the signal gets across, but I dont hear anything through the headphones. I can also record MIDI from the Nord, use an MIDI Instrument in Ableton and send that out to master using an audio track, but then I hear the Ableton instrument and I want to hear the sound from the Nord.
Can anyone help me out there?
So I can use an External Instrument in Ableton, but presumably I should not use an External Instrument.
Hello @kpfl - I wish I had Ableton Live 11 up and running to assist with that but to do so would be a larger effort than I personally have time for. However, have a look at this video (linked below) and double check your basic connections from Ableton out to your MIDI Instruments. Once you solve that puzzle piece, the rest should fall into place. Also, if you think you have the MIDI out working from Albeton back to the Nord keyboard, but you still don't hear anything, try connecting your headphones directly to the Nord temporarily just to see if it's getting any signal. Also, keep an eye on the "MIDI" light on the Nord keyboard. This will tell you immediately if something is coming over the wire to it, even if you don't hear anything. This can help you troubleshoot. Here is the video to check out which may assist? czcams.com/video/2ONL4ZWgy7E/video.html
@@MyKeysToMusic Thank you so much for your detailed explanation!! I will try this out when I am back home again!! Fingers crossed I will get it to work, because it would be so cool to have the Nord play it’s own instruments using MIDI and not playing software instruments from Ableton. About the lights on the Nord: I indeed got MIDI input on the Nord, so it was receiving the signals sent by Ableton. I will also try the headphones trick. But maybe using an External Instrument plugin is the only way in Ableton? But as you described in your video, that External Instrument should better not be used in logic pro, so I thought maybe the same applies to Ableton. So, I will try it out again when I am back home again in a few days and let you know the results. For me understanding MIDI is not so hard, but understanding how MIDI input on the Nord can play the instruments configuration on the Nord is a mystery to me.
@@kupfeli I think you'll figure this out, and feel free to drop a line with an update when you get to it again.
So there I am again! I only got it to work using the External Instrument in Ableton, so thanks alot for the help and the videos! I was just a bit puzzled, as we should not tick the External Instrument checkbox in Logic, but that put me on the wrong track, but that had nothing to do with Ableton of course 🤗
@@kupfeli It sounds like you figured things out then? If so, great! Enjoy making music... 🎼
Or in FL studio......?
@lebate.j.1368 Lebat, yes, the same concept applies to FL Studio or any professional DAW, really. Of course, the step by step instructions will be completely different for each one, but the same concept applies which is:
1) Record the MIDI into the DAW.
2) Play back the MIDI into the keyboard to trigger the sounds from that keyboard.
3) Record the audio from the keyboard back into the DAW.
Stupid question incoming: why can't you just record as MIDI and then export it as mp3? Isn't that an audio file?
@jembartlett Your idea here is spot-on IF the audio came from a virtual instrument supplied by Logic Pro. However, in this example, the audio comes from the external keyboard. Therefore, you can't take advantage of the Logic Pro feature to convert MIDI to an MP3 file. That feature only works if the audio is supplied by a virtual instrument loaded into Logic Pro. Hope that makes sense!
@@MyKeysToMusic I see! Thanks so much for explaining that!
@@jembartlett Happy to help! Good luck with your recordings...
@@MyKeysToMusic Follow up question if you get some time: is the reason you want to record in this way because the sound of the keyboard is much better than a virtual instrument? Would there not be some terrific virtual piano sounds you could use in Logic that would save you having to run it back via the keyboard? Or the sound quality just doesn't compare? (thanks a lot, as you can tell I'm new to recording!)
@@jembartlett Great question. The main reason for this video and why I demonstrate it with an external keyboard like the Nord for the audio is primarily because this channel is mainly about Nord Keyboards. But what you say is 100% correct. These days, the sounds from various virtual instruments and plug-ins are as good and, in many cases, even better than sounds from external keyboards (depending on the situation).
Thanks for the video but maybe you could talk a little less about artistic preferences and more about Logic Pro.
Hey Ronald. I probably wouldn’t bother making any videos if I had to continuously stifle my opinion about some things I find either inspirational or informational. That’s the beauty of CZcams. You can be yourself as they call it. “YOU tube.“
You may benefit by investing in a paid course for Logic where you can be critical about the presentation and you can also avoid the ads which many believe contain an equal amount if not more of a distraction in the learning process. 👍. I get it!
As this information is completely free for the taking “you get what you pay for.” Luckily, you have thousands and thousands of choices of people who will teach you about Logic for free on CZcams and they might even do it with no opinion about music, the creative process, what inspires them, artist they like, or any of the human stuff. I’m not that guy. 🤷♂️