Good, repeal the entire act. Like you stated, it was an unjust, undebated, unsupported bill run through at midnight and shoved on the people of NY as a showboat piece for Andrew Coumo. It was wrong then and it's wrong now. Get rid of it and then, if needed, bring it up though the regular channels and see if it passes.
We can't sway voters in the burrows, it's a different culture, socialist/Communist culture.We don't have that, upstate NY is red state and we hate Cuomo and his ideas.
Seriously the city is the problem, they are brainwashed socialists. If I live upstate I shouldn't have to pay for the decisions of the brain damaged people who live in that shit hole city
I joined the USCG 27 years ago from my home in Cortland county. When I retire and go back “home” to NY I will be a criminal! Thanks for your service and your families hardships while you were deployed including Iraq...here’s your jail cell. Being from NY makes me sick.
Born and raised in WNY. Love the people, great hunting and fishing, best food in the country! Taxes are insane!! Pistol Permit system is unconstitutional and should be repealed. You shouldn't have to apply for a permit and wait sometimes almost 2 years to be approved to excersize a constitutional right. But, I tolerated all of that because it was home. In Jan. of 2013 the NY Safe Act was passed and forced upon us literally overnight! This I could not abide. I voted, I demonstrated, I had my state reps on speed dial and called constantly, I attended rallies, I joined S.C.O.P.E., ALL TO NO AVAIL. Finally in Dec. 2016 I relocated my family and my small business to a state that follows the Bill of Rights. Yes, the breaking point, the straw that broke the camels back, was the NY Safe Act. Good luck NYers. No permit required to own a hand held firearm in this state. Walk in, pay the man, pass the NICS check, and walk out with your rifle, shotgun, or pistol and go shooting! I hope it works out for you guys. I am saving $6k a year on property taxes now. Using it to buy tons of ammo and doing a whole lotta shooting!!!!
Did the same thing in Spring 2017.....leftist politics, insanely high property taxes ( $9500 for me )....and 6 months of winter. Couldn't take it anymore. Moved my business and home to South Carolina. Never looked back. Property taxes are $600/yr..as one example.
Compliance with such a law requires a person to ignore the meaning of the word infringe (to act so as to limit or undermine) thus the person would be ignoring what the Constitution clearly says. You can't change the meaning of the word and so therefore when analyzing our founding documents we can clearly see that our founders as per the Declaration of Independence intended for a person to be governed under their own morality coming to the conclusion they felt people were competent enough to exercise good and limit themselves from doing evil as every human who is not insane possesses. So then they wrote the Bill of Rights within the Constitution the Bill of Rights is a list of natural laws untouchable by man made laws as no man possesses any more power over another. To believe they do is the exact definition of slavery. They designed the Constitution and especially the 2nd Amendment in a way that it would be very obvious if someone tried to act as God and get rid of their natural rights through force. The idea was since all of the Bill of Rights were believed to be granted by God no human being possessed any celestial power to remove or edit those rights and any attempt made to do so was and still is an act of treason. No one can force you to do anything against your will when it pertains to a right. Natural law has and always was considered the supreme law of the land. Not federal or state law. People believe they have to obey an unjust laws without once ever reading the first portion of the Declaration of Independence which served as a shinning example that a person is only governed to the extent they consent to be governed , however in our country it is acceptable to withdraw that consent and simply not obey a law if it abridges any rights regardless if everyone likes the idea or not. It is simply a structure built that allows Americans to retain freedom under the idea that when it comes to the Bill of Rights a person is morally and ethically in the right disobeying any law that edits, limits, undermines or removes the right in question. Here is the just of the whole situation. For some people this act violates 2 amendments to the constitution and depending on religious belief it can violate 3 rights. Here is how. Considering politicians are simply human beings the have no authority any higher than who a person or what a person believes created them. The idea is just that no government breathed life into man. We are free to practice our religion openly without persecution or prosecution as per the first amendment. So if a person believes God created them then by obeying a law that removes a right granted by God (a higher power) you are ignoring God's declaration as the highest authority over mankind thus forcing a person to acknowledge that a mortal man possesses power over them much like a God to edit or remove natural rights. Thats not being free to acknowledge your God as the highest power but instead by complying you are acknowledging gov Cuomo as your God. This is true for everyone even atheist because it removes the freedom to not acknowledge that God does not exist and forcing them to declare a God (in this case Governor Cuomo). Then it violates the 2nd just by sheer meaning of the word infringe. Period there should be no further argument as the statement "shall not be infringed" is clear and concise enough to convey exactly what was intended and that is no law can touch it if the law was thought up by a human being. Since all gun laws are and most certainly "limits or undermines" a persons right to own certain firearms based on looks or certain features of certain firearms then it is completely against the Constitution and is illegal by the laws of our land (this is why people in the UK can have their opinion of guns are bad all they want but because you want every American in the UK visiting to observe and obey the laws of your country then you must obey and observe the laws of our country period and your opinion bears no weight). Finally since it forces people to obey a human and limit their own rights by default it violates the 13th amendment that abolished slavery. You cannot edit or undermine a person's rights in this country and believe that person is free it is the illusion of freedom nothing more. Finally Chaos theory is the scientific explanation of why society a complex system is impossible to control. Read it if your a liberal and try to argue with science that tells you that you are wrong. Even our founders believed that the system setup by them would eventually fall to people intent on doing harm to others through legislation or laws and is why people like Thomas Jefferson believed the country would need to fight future wars to continue to retain their freedom and he was speaking in terms of evil people who try to seize power through government and was believed that the people who threatened liberty the most were the people in government that would come to power in the U.S. not foreign invaders. According to the Constitution obeying even 1 gun law would violate the Constitution. There is a legal term I am unsure of the name of it but it is a specific law that literally says a person is not obligated to obey a law if the law requires the person to commit another crime just to obey it. Considering the glaring fact that all gun laws violate the Constitution then a person cannot commit the crime of treason to obey the law and obedience to any law that falls out of harmony with the Constitution is most certainly a serious crime against humanity.
evilcowboy I fundamentally agree with you...its just unfortunate that many "lawmakers" do not respect the constitution or have the integrity to defend it...they've been trampling the constitution for decades and will likely continue to do so.
I used to live upstate NY (German Town), and then moved to Brooklyn, biggest mistake I ever made. Currently I am consulting out in Lansing Michigan, and just love the guns laws out there. Lansing has open carry, and CPL, I have joined a few ranges out there we you can rent the firearm with no problem. No ban on AR 15 etc'. I do realize MI is a large hunting state, I am thinking of just moving out there, I am an ex-7th Special Forces combat veteran, and love going to the range. But when I come home every few weeks, I get so disappointed on our gun laws compared to MI.
Utica New York has had more shootings in the past 2 months then can be counted. The Safe Act is an unsafe Act. This has made things in New York state much worse when it comes to gun crying. The Safe Act does not affect criminals because they do what they want when they want. And the criminals also know the Safe Act makes it safer for them because it makes all the good law-abiding citizens into felons. Repeal the Safe Act. Maybe Utica. Rochester. Syracuse. All the major cities in New York would be a lot safer if more civilians were able to help the police by being armed and saving a life for two. Common sense. And here's another question because they say the Safe Act protects us from terrorists. How many guns were used in 911? How many guns were used every time somebody got ran over in New York City? How many guns were used in Oklahoma City? How many guns were used in the Boston Marathon? The answer is none. So the question now is does the Safe Act protect us from terrorists? People need to wake up and repeal the Safe Act
As an Upstate NYer who just started paying attention to 2A issues as of late, what is the status of this semi-repeal in 2018? I'm guessing it got shot down since I have to abide by SAFE Act laws here in Upstate. Repeal the Second Amendment and Firearm Eliminations Act! Love the shout-out to Schoharie County in the 8th minute.
Greg Ball said it the best. Politics in NY is dirty business. Why should the governor's ego be massaged by keeping "part of the bill". If you want part of it, create a bill with those parts and get rid of the unconstitutional parts including registration of semi auto rifles (which basically didn't happen anyway - it's called civil disobedience) and get rid of the 5 year "pistol permit recert" which also saddles constitutional abiding Americans with un-deserved burden. In fact while you are at it repeal the entire program of pistol permits. Period. Criminals don't register their hand guns. They still have them. It's about time all of you smart people got some common sense going and uphold your oath of office. It's about the Constitution and in fact get back to the Declaration of Independence.....that's what applies here. Get off our backs and leave us alone.
The 2nd has a clause that states "The right of the People SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED". If this is the case, any restrictive firearm law enacted by a state is breaking constitutional law. Why are, We The People allowing this to happen? I propose, every group, the NRA, GOAL and all the others get a bunch of lawyers and get before the Supreme Court to bring charges against the states for violating LAW!!!!!!!!
I've actually the chance to meet suozzi or whatever a few times. I think he's a senator now? I Odds are I'll have the chance again, I'll have my boss introduce me and I want to have a private off the record conversation with him about the safe act and his thoughts. He's probably all for it. But I'd still like to know his thoughts and possibly drop some knowledge on his behind.
Give us back our right to keep and bear arms I mean obviously the federal government is supposed to support the Constitution and our rights but they have yet to step up and say this law is unjust and in it's own a violation to tax payers rights in the Constitution. Don't think that if they don't defend your rights on something so obvious as this they are not going to worry about defending your life if shtf completely. We are on our own.
They keep saying upstate what about Long Island? We don’t want any unconstitutional tyrants either. WTF . LI should not be balled up with NYC that’s wrong.
singling out nyc from the rest of the state ignites the cause for nyc to secede from the rest of the state and become the 51st state. we contribute more to the state budget than the rest of the state combined. if they want us to be dissociated through selective legislation we should consider that nyc can and should survive on its own and let them have their guns ammo and the rest but not our tax money.
Haleluya , finally a wake up call, criminals will acquire guns illegally. The state of ny needs to crack down on them not law abiding gun owners. Law abiding gun owners can help police in emergencies.
From what they said about it I am shocked they didn't repeal the whole thing. It sounds like a crappy bill to me. If they passed something like this in my state I would move.
If you're ever picked for a jury learn about Jury Nullification. A jury can Nullify an unjust law and save a person being prosecuted for these politically motivated unjust unconstitutional laws.
Peter mahan really what a shame I was just near ilion the other day I was looking for property in little Falls and sailsbury fucking cuomo destroyed upstate ny what's a fucking clown he is
he SAFE Act says people are not entitled to any merits for being law-abiding and peaceful. If this is the case then what's the purpose of being law-abiding and peaceful? What's the point of it all if the government cannot stay off our backs and out of our private affairs?
This bill seeks to reestablish the rights of law abiding citizens' in rural and suburban areas of the state by limiting the application of the SAFE Act to Kings, Queens, Richmond, New York, and the Bronx......this is from the New York State Senate website. www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2017/S879
Wasnt this act rushed in after some mass shooting? How stupid can lawmakers be? When a bad guy kicks down your door with a 30 round mag rifle, you'll be trying to shoot back with 7 rounds in a 10 mag pistol. I guess they dont care about your life or your family's lives.
What about the silly cosmetic feature bans that go along with it for Long island and upstate this law was Constitutionaly illigal and wrong and to be honest just dumb cosmetics don't do a thing to protect anyone it was a feel good bill with emotions we all know emotions and policy don't belong in the same room.
Good, repeal the entire act. Like you stated, it was an unjust, undebated, unsupported bill run through at midnight and shoved on the people of NY as a showboat piece for Andrew Coumo. It was wrong then and it's wrong now. Get rid of it and then, if needed, bring it up though the regular channels and see if it passes.
Vince F it will NEVER happen in our lifetime and I'm 20
I really hope this bill passes so they can get rid of this Awful NY Safe act crap here in NY State! Hopefully, they can repeal it entirely!
get rid of cuomo and schumer and safe act
We can't sway voters in the burrows, it's a different culture, socialist/Communist culture.We don't have that, upstate NY is red state and we hate Cuomo and his ideas.
Yeah, can we get an act protecting us from those tyrants?
Seriously the city is the problem, they are brainwashed socialists. If I live upstate I shouldn't have to pay for the decisions of the brain damaged people who live in that shit hole city
Repeal the act. No one follows it and police don't enforce it anyways.
Until you get caught with a rifle that has "evil features". lol
I joined the USCG 27 years ago from my home in Cortland county. When I retire and go back “home” to NY I will be a criminal! Thanks for your service and your families hardships while you were deployed including Iraq...here’s your jail cell. Being from NY makes me sick.
First step to repealing the safe act is getting Cuomo out! Vote this election for Larry Sharpe a Marine who cares about our 2nd amendment right!
And yet here we are, still with SAFE....
Thank you gentlemen you got it right
Basically it's F--K NYC
not enough support in the 5 borroughs my friend. pass the knowledge and get the 5 together for the 2nd
Born and raised in WNY. Love the people, great hunting and fishing, best food in the country! Taxes are insane!! Pistol Permit system is unconstitutional and should be repealed. You shouldn't have to apply for a permit and wait sometimes almost 2 years to be approved to excersize a constitutional right. But, I tolerated all of that because it was home. In Jan. of 2013 the NY Safe Act was passed and forced upon us literally overnight! This I could not abide. I voted, I demonstrated, I had my state reps on speed dial and called constantly, I attended rallies, I joined S.C.O.P.E., ALL TO NO AVAIL. Finally in Dec. 2016 I relocated my family and my small business to a state that follows the Bill of Rights. Yes, the breaking point, the straw that broke the camels back, was the NY Safe Act. Good luck NYers. No permit required to own a hand held firearm in this state. Walk in, pay the man, pass the NICS check, and walk out with your rifle, shotgun, or pistol and go shooting! I hope it works out for you guys. I am saving $6k a year on property taxes now. Using it to buy tons of ammo and doing a whole lotta shooting!!!!
hey tim, good for you, where'd you end up? im thinking pennsylvania, i have a small business in mind...
Did the same thing in Spring 2017.....leftist politics, insanely high property taxes ( $9500 for me )....and 6 months of winter. Couldn't take it anymore. Moved my business and home to South Carolina. Never looked back. Property taxes are $600/yr..as one example.
Looks like GOA is a good outfit.
Pentagon disarms NG in DC czcams.com/video/il5xwDyNLfc/video.html
thank you it is about time you start listing to the people of upstate new york.
watching this in late 2019 and nothing has changed...still a commie state
BuyMoreFirearms The safe act sucks. I wish I could get the hell out of this shithole.
Compliance with such a law requires a person to ignore the meaning of the word infringe (to act so as to limit or undermine) thus the person would be ignoring what the Constitution clearly says. You can't change the meaning of the word and so therefore when analyzing our founding documents we can clearly see that our founders as per the Declaration of Independence intended for a person to be governed under their own morality coming to the conclusion they felt people were competent enough to exercise good and limit themselves from doing evil as every human who is not insane possesses. So then they wrote the Bill of Rights within the Constitution the Bill of Rights is a list of natural laws untouchable by man made laws as no man possesses any more power over another. To believe they do is the exact definition of slavery.
They designed the Constitution and especially the 2nd Amendment in a way that it would be very obvious if someone tried to act as God and get rid of their natural rights through force. The idea was since all of the Bill of Rights were believed to be granted by God no human being possessed any celestial power to remove or edit those rights and any attempt made to do so was and still is an act of treason. No one can force you to do anything against your will when it pertains to a right.
Natural law has and always was considered the supreme law of the land. Not federal or state law. People believe they have to obey an unjust laws without once ever reading the first portion of the Declaration of Independence which served as a shinning example that a person is only governed to the extent they consent to be governed , however in our country it is acceptable to withdraw that consent and simply not obey a law if it abridges any rights regardless if everyone likes the idea or not. It is simply a structure built that allows Americans to retain freedom under the idea that when it comes to the Bill of Rights a person is morally and ethically in the right disobeying any law that edits, limits, undermines or removes the right in question.
Here is the just of the whole situation. For some people this act violates 2 amendments to the constitution and depending on religious belief it can violate 3 rights. Here is how. Considering politicians are simply human beings the have no authority any higher than who a person or what a person believes created them. The idea is just that no government breathed life into man. We are free to practice our religion openly without persecution or prosecution as per the first amendment. So if a person believes God created them then by obeying a law that removes a right granted by God (a higher power) you are ignoring God's declaration as the highest authority over mankind thus forcing a person to acknowledge that a mortal man possesses power over them much like a God to edit or remove natural rights. Thats not being free to acknowledge your God as the highest power but instead by complying you are acknowledging gov Cuomo as your God. This is true for everyone even atheist because it removes the freedom to not acknowledge that God does not exist and forcing them to declare a God (in this case Governor Cuomo). Then it violates the 2nd just by sheer meaning of the word infringe. Period there should be no further argument as the statement "shall not be infringed" is clear and concise enough to convey exactly what was intended and that is no law can touch it if the law was thought up by a human being. Since all gun laws are and most certainly "limits or undermines" a persons right to own certain firearms based on looks or certain features of certain firearms then it is completely against the Constitution and is illegal by the laws of our land (this is why people in the UK can have their opinion of guns are bad all they want but because you want every American in the UK visiting to observe and obey the laws of your country then you must obey and observe the laws of our country period and your opinion bears no weight). Finally since it forces people to obey a human and limit their own rights by default it violates the 13th amendment that abolished slavery. You cannot edit or undermine a person's rights in this country and believe that person is free it is the illusion of freedom nothing more.
Finally Chaos theory is the scientific explanation of why society a complex system is impossible to control. Read it if your a liberal and try to argue with science that tells you that you are wrong. Even our founders believed that the system setup by them would eventually fall to people intent on doing harm to others through legislation or laws and is why people like Thomas Jefferson believed the country would need to fight future wars to continue to retain their freedom and he was speaking in terms of evil people who try to seize power through government and was believed that the people who threatened liberty the most were the people in government that would come to power in the U.S. not foreign invaders.
According to the Constitution obeying even 1 gun law would violate the Constitution. There is a legal term I am unsure of the name of it but it is a specific law that literally says a person is not obligated to obey a law if the law requires the person to commit another crime just to obey it. Considering the glaring fact that all gun laws violate the Constitution then a person cannot commit the crime of treason to obey the law and obedience to any law that falls out of harmony with the Constitution is most certainly a serious crime against humanity.
evilcowboy I fundamentally agree with you...its just unfortunate that many "lawmakers" do not respect the constitution or have the integrity to defend it...they've been trampling the constitution for decades and will likely continue to do so.
NEEDS TO BE FOR THE ENTIRE STATE OF NEW YORK
Enough with press conference's and talking, GET IT DONE!!!
Please get rid of this bullshit act.
This law makes me a criminal and I've never broken the law or have been arrested. Please help us.
I used to live upstate NY (German Town), and then moved to Brooklyn, biggest mistake I ever made. Currently I am consulting out in Lansing Michigan, and just love the guns laws out there. Lansing has open carry, and CPL, I have joined a few ranges out there we you can rent the firearm with no problem. No ban on AR 15 etc'. I do realize MI is a large hunting state, I am thinking of just moving out there, I am an ex-7th Special Forces combat veteran, and love going to the range. But when I come home every few weeks, I get so disappointed on our gun laws compared to MI.
I thought ex military and law enforcement are excluded from the safe act?
The NY UNsafe Act should be repealed.... PERIOD. Not just "upstate".
Get rid of most of them.
No ,no baby steps the bill is constitutional!. Revoke the nysafe act!.
Unconstitutional bill , nys safe act is crap!.
Utica New York has had more shootings in the past 2 months then can be counted. The Safe Act is an unsafe Act. This has made things in New York state much worse when it comes to gun crying. The Safe Act does not affect criminals because they do what they want when they want. And the criminals also know the Safe Act makes it safer for them because it makes all the good law-abiding citizens into felons. Repeal the Safe Act. Maybe Utica. Rochester. Syracuse. All the major cities in New York would be a lot safer if more civilians were able to help the police by being armed and saving a life for two. Common sense. And here's another question because they say the Safe Act protects us from terrorists. How many guns were used in 911? How many guns were used every time somebody got ran over in New York City? How many guns were used in Oklahoma City? How many guns were used in the Boston Marathon? The answer is none. So the question now is does the Safe Act protect us from terrorists? People need to wake up and repeal the Safe Act
As an Upstate NYer who just started paying attention to 2A issues as of late, what is the status of this semi-repeal in 2018? I'm guessing it got shot down since I have to abide by SAFE Act laws here in Upstate. Repeal the Second Amendment and Firearm Eliminations Act! Love the shout-out to Schoharie County in the 8th minute.
Greg Ball said it the best. Politics in NY is dirty business. Why should the governor's ego be massaged by keeping "part of the bill". If you want part of it, create a bill with those parts and get rid of the unconstitutional parts including registration of semi auto rifles (which basically didn't happen anyway - it's called civil disobedience) and get rid of the 5 year "pistol permit recert" which also saddles constitutional abiding Americans with un-deserved burden. In fact while you are at it repeal the entire program of pistol permits. Period. Criminals don't register their hand guns. They still have them. It's about time all of you smart people got some common sense going and uphold your oath of office. It's about the Constitution and in fact get back to the Declaration of Independence.....that's what applies here. Get off our backs and leave us alone.
I’ll be moving up
State
Seeing this now, in 2020, I can only wonder how heat electrons will go.
This guy is awesome. We need to keep him in office. Finally a politician who has a brain and his for the people.
The 2nd has a clause that states "The right of the People SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED". If this is the case, any restrictive firearm law enacted by a state is breaking constitutional law. Why are, We The People allowing this to happen? I propose, every group, the NRA, GOAL and all the others get a bunch of lawyers and get before the Supreme Court to bring charges against the states for violating LAW!!!!!!!!
Best idea I’ve heard.
It's time for New Government in New York before it's too late
Still waiting
I see our elected officials did a great job on this.
None of the gun laws would ever pass the 2nd Amendment muster.
If this was 100 hundred ago or even less cuomo would be hung. Literally
EastCoast Podcast Lynched lol
Nothing like a good ol' tarn and feathering
I've actually the chance to meet suozzi or whatever a few times. I think he's a senator now? I Odds are I'll have the chance again, I'll have my boss introduce me and I want to have a private off the record conversation with him about the safe act and his thoughts. He's probably all for it. But I'd still like to know his thoughts and possibly drop some knowledge on his behind.
Cuomo has to go
A bill does not can not will not and will never be recognized as a law as long as it goes against the Constitution
Give us back our right to keep and bear arms I mean obviously the federal government is supposed to support the Constitution and our rights but they have yet to step up and say this law is unjust and in it's own a violation to tax payers rights in the Constitution. Don't think that if they don't defend your rights on something so obvious as this they are not going to worry about defending your life if shtf completely. We are on our own.
They keep saying upstate what about Long Island? We don’t want any unconstitutional tyrants either. WTF . LI should not be balled up with NYC that’s wrong.
Dont' see why we cant use muzzles or silencers. all silencers do is make you less deaf it still sounds like a gun
Police response in NYC is slow. That political clown has his facts wrong
So the place with the most crime ppl have the least amount of tools to defend themselves
singling out nyc from the rest of the state ignites the cause for nyc to secede from the rest of the state and become the 51st state. we contribute more to the state budget than the rest of the state combined. if they want us to be dissociated through selective legislation we should consider that nyc can and should survive on its own and let them have their guns ammo and the rest but not our tax money.
It should not be tuned. Repeal it.
so ...5 years later no more CUOMO and the SAFE ACT still exist
I noticed John J ! But I'm proud that The Honorable Tom Croce was present!! Way to Go Tom :)
Haleluya , finally a wake up call, criminals will acquire guns illegally. The state of ny needs to crack down on them not law abiding gun owners. Law abiding gun owners can help police in emergencies.
From what they said about it I am shocked they didn't repeal the whole thing. It sounds like a crappy bill to me. If they passed something like this in my state I would move.
why am i getting a permit when its supposed to be a right??? lets get real
The safe act works, make the law biding citizen weaker for greater government action
If you're ever picked for a jury learn about Jury Nullification. A jury can Nullify an unjust law and save a person being prosecuted for these politically motivated unjust unconstitutional laws.
Y NYC resident can't buy AR or Saga?
Remington just layed off,and more to follow.
Peter mahan really what a shame I was just near ilion the other day I was looking for property in little Falls and sailsbury fucking cuomo destroyed upstate ny what's a fucking clown he is
Did it pass
Cuomo needs to be shipped to New York city and we need a conservative governor for upstate
Okay EVERYBODY look at the crazy eyed lady standing behind the guy speaking.
WHAT'S UP WITH HER ?
The constitution doesn't exist in nyc
he SAFE Act says people are not entitled to any merits for being law-abiding and peaceful. If this is the case then what's the purpose of being law-abiding and peaceful? What's the point of it all if the government cannot stay off our backs and out of our private affairs?
We should end this safe act people who want to commit crimes don’t care about this safe act
im disgusted by the laws in ny. how will i ever be free
It's a start
To those who support "gun control" see Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Castrol, Iran. Every.tyrant in history disarms their people to maintain control
What is the status of this? This needs to happen before 01/30/2018, the deadline for the unlawful recertification process.
Total bs tar n feather anyone who voted 4 this
Suffolk and Nassau counties??
This bill seeks to reestablish the rights of law abiding citizens' in
rural and suburban areas of the state by limiting the application of
the SAFE Act to Kings, Queens, Richmond, New York, and the Bronx......this is from the New York State Senate website. www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2017/S879
Wasnt this act rushed in after some mass shooting? How stupid can lawmakers be? When a bad guy kicks down your door with a 30 round mag rifle, you'll be trying to shoot back with 7 rounds in a 10 mag pistol. I guess they dont care about your life or your family's lives.
And it's why we can't comply.
He's telling people they can't vape anymore! Who fucking died and left you boss of my life?
As to the new ban today
What about Nassau and Suffolk County.? Seven rds in a 10 Rd mag will not help me with 4-5 gang members. I will be dead and it will be on your hands
Repeal cuomo! Job done.....
What about the silly cosmetic feature bans that go along with it for Long island and upstate this law was Constitutionaly illigal and wrong and to be honest just dumb cosmetics don't do a thing to protect anyone it was a feel good bill with emotions we all know emotions and policy don't belong in the same room.
Take the Police Guns first.
A
Still waiting