As renters we've always had the first alert ladders...and my mother used to keep the ladder and a hammer by each upstairs bedroom window, in case the window got stuck. I was brought up that way so never considered people wouldn't have them. It's a good idea.
my husband and I live in a 2 story townhouse apartment, living room, kitchen downstairs bedrooms and bathroom upstairs. I purchased the Kidde fire escape ladder after my 80+ year old Aunt died in a house fire. also purchased a fire extinguisher and have a plan in place to remove our animals from the building.
@@matejovich she was an invalid...so of course not. However when someone close to you dies in a fire, it makes you reconsider your choices. way to be a douchebag though. Kudos.
Never use a fire escape ladder that so-called experts recommend unless you want to kill yourself. I bet my bottom dollar that you never used it once. There are safer escape methods. Stay safe.
I'm disabled senior with 3 disabilities. I move slowly because my knee replacement went bad. So, I worried about my dog! LOL I finally decided that I needed something, too. I bought several fire blankets and have them hanging in each room, a fire extinguisher for upstairs, and two downstairs. Let's HOPE that I wasted that money, and they never get used! The dog's fire escape device, a large harness sling on a rope, is still next to the window! He goes first! Then me!
well do u plan on setting your home on fire every weekend lol its probally due to the fact the materials will be exposed to heat and may degrade so its best to get a new one
@@Newberntrains That should be clarified. One time use taken as is means one time use. To make it clear and generate more confident sales it should clarify not to use again after exposure to damaging heat or other elements also made clear and that it's safe to use a guaranteed high number of times for drills or other uses.
In many designs windows, the screen takes some effort to remove. Your options are to leave it in knowing in an emergency you'll have to break through it, or remove it permanently. The latter option is the safer one, but you give up the option of letting air blow through that window while stopping insects. I'll accept that limitation.
Oh my. That's freaky. So does anyone have any recommendations for wide window sills? Mine is wide (20-22 inches) :/, with a (seemingly unstable) wooden edge at the end. So if I put that escape ladder on, I am worried that it would slip up and off. So given that my ledge is super wide, I want to make sure I buy a good one. Would you (or anyone) know anything about this? I am starting to look into getting a safety ladder or rope because there has been at least one fire a year in each apartment block I've lived in for the past couple years... so I want to be prepared... And unfortunately, I cannot practice given my apartment location.
Contact your local fire department and see what their recommendation is. They can help you assess what fire protection measures are already in place in your building and assist you in developing an escape plan with two ways out of every room.
Jessie Jg, I've never tried one of these, but it stops your descent if you go too fast, and then you pull the handle again to continue your decent. Firefighters supposedly rely on them if they have to bail out. Video: "EXO AP - Personal escape system with anchor hook" Be sure and use a safety harness that is very secure, otherwise if you tip over, you could fall out of it. I recommend taking a **mountaineering course** to get in some practice repelling.
You can get a fixed ladder like the ones in the video. It's installed into the wall, you take it out and there's no way it would fall off. Much more safer than those detachable ones.
buy two cheap used dumbbells and a used set of plates that in total weigh slightly more than you. Assemble them and just leave them under your bed. Doesn't really cost anything, doesn't take any visible space in your apartment, can easily be carried to the window in less than a minute. As a bonus, it warms up your forearm muscles which are used for the ladder. The only downside is losing a couple ft of ladder length. Attaching the ladder to _any_ window sill is a dumb idea for obvious reasons. A dumbbell is designed to not break.
@@bestchannelintheworld could also use a bags of gravel tie a rope to them on floor corner to window but simpler to just tie to the bed that will move to window as your veight comes on ladder or rope.
a long 2x4 that can be barred against the window, 1 inch rope with big knots will do the trick. Yeah! sit on the loop and grab the rope tight. I think of a way to use a pulley to lighten the weight
Think could be effective if their left by the windows incase of emergency that there no other escape. True unsafe due to providing a window of oxygen to feed fire and fact you can fall. But it may save your life if no other options
Step back for a minute and just look at who would need to use these devices. Your reporter is fairly fit and agile but even he struggled to safely use any of the ladders to escape the building and this where he was not under stress with smoke and flames around the building which could easily compromise the abilities of both the escapees and the actual ladder. If those wishing to leave were overweight,less agile, aged or even youngsters or babies as per the home owner in the clip then none of these devices would assist escape. Something that may help would be smoke hoods like used in aircraft, these could be easily stored in upstairs rooms and aid the escapees from being overcome by the smoke and fumes produced by most fires.
The reality is that any unfit person is significantly more likely to die in any given survival situation. Fitness is the number one thing you can do for survival. Like you said, no overweight or elderly person will be able to use this, and certainly no overweight mother is going to be able to carry hereslf and her baby down a webbing ladder. If a person is physically capable of using one of these ladders, it might be a good idea to have one since the cost is low. Realistically, it is far more advantageous to have many working smoke alarms and a solid escape plan. Modern smoke alarms detect fire so early that "get low and go" is likely the fastest and safest way to exit from a fire, but it only works if you have working alarms and know where your exits are. It's not a coincidence the two most harped on fire safety measures are have working smoke alarms and have an escape plan.
@@jasong1058 Smoke hoods in upstairs rooms would be a better investment as they would allow the occupants a better chance of survival to escape the building.
This is why there’s no excuse for an able bodied human to be obese. It makes you a liability to yourself and loved ones. Yes I understand disabilities and age also play a role in this conversation. Those aren’t controllable factors. If you’re fat stop eating and start walking.
The Kidde ladder is not deep enough to span our windows. Nor are our window and sill configurations as flat as that modern one in the video. There's not enough variety in the escape ladder market. I looked to buy escape ropes but they all seem to be made in China from Chinese suppliers so I can't trust the delivery or quality to be accurate.
could use a strong long enouch beam of wood or metal across window opening , or just have rope or wire or chain always tied to bed that will then be pulled to window when you climb out and veight pulls on it. but then you have a chain or rope always on floor in corner or can hang it up a bit on wall . mabye put it in a tube pipe for looks . or drill a fastener into wall on inside of window then no long chain on floor . mabye safest to go into a harness first and have a short rope wire chain to be hanging just below window or is that too close to heat flames comeing out , then what halfway to next floor below or but the longer the rope the more risk if fall down big shock when reach end of rope.
@@orangestoneface Thanks for your suggestions. The beam's or pole's a good idea. I'm not sure about the bed idea, as it's only MDF and might break under the strain. I have found a rope in the house that could be tied around the central pillar of a double window. My alternative it to throw myself on the garden hedge. That maybe a bit spiky but I could throw some bedding on it first to cushion the fall. It's only 2 stories high but bones can still be broken in a straight drop from that height.
@@heliotropezzz333 break l doubt it beds are sturdy , maybe not go from window into smoke filled room to look for bedding. reminds me of whatsher name rabbit someting lair or . on twitch . she went into a burning house to save her rabbit , vary bad . once in her room she realised could not go back through smoke too risky had to jump out window two storeys l think bad back injury months in recovery . , it can help to know how to hang on sill first to lessen fall ,also how to land parachuters using old kind leant that and maybe practice it a bit bent but stiff legs l think and other more so fall on side and curve spine in a way that breaks the fall. helmet.
@@orangestoneface Bedding is within 3 feet of window. It's hard to hang from the window because directly below the window is a bay window underneath and the sloping roof of that sticks out. There is one window that is not over the bay, but underneath that is a stone path. Just at the side of the bay window is a small space that has a softer landing on the soil or the hedge but it's a longer drop to the soil. Thanks for the advice. I think I know what my options are now.
As renters we've always had the first alert ladders...and my mother used to keep the ladder and a hammer by each upstairs bedroom window, in case the window got stuck. I was brought up that way so never considered people wouldn't have them. It's a good idea.
my husband and I live in a 2 story townhouse apartment, living room, kitchen downstairs bedrooms and bathroom upstairs. I purchased the Kidde fire escape ladder after my 80+ year old Aunt died in a house fire. also purchased a fire extinguisher and have a plan in place to remove our animals from the building.
Would your 80 year old aunt have been able to climb down the ladder?
@@matejovich she was an invalid...so of course not. However when someone close to you dies in a fire, it makes you reconsider your choices. way to be a douchebag though. Kudos.
Never use a fire escape ladder that so-called experts recommend unless you want to kill yourself. I bet my bottom dollar that you never used it once. There are safer escape methods. Stay safe.
Such a good demonstration to show how things could go wrong quickly even for someone young, slim and fit and with both hands free.
Worked very well.
I'm disabled senior with 3 disabilities. I move slowly because my knee replacement went bad. So, I worried about my dog! LOL I finally decided that I needed something, too. I bought several fire blankets and have them hanging in each room, a fire extinguisher for upstairs, and two downstairs. Let's HOPE that I wasted that money, and they never get used! The dog's fire escape device, a large harness sling on a rope, is still next to the window! He goes first! Then me!
I assume you also have decent fire alarms in mint condition sir.
That’s sad that you value an animals life over a human being. You are not helpful to society at all.
NEVER USE A FIRE ESCAPE LADDER - unless you want to die.
Ridiculous. What happened to the good old fashion leap from a window?
potential death
@@jackheris687 plus if your leg is broken it's more financial burden, destroyed home + medical treatment for 4 people
hahaha, right? gosh darn new fangled devices...
You must be Spider-Man huh !
Might be a problem when fire is coming out first floor windows
The kidde ladder says 1 time use....
well do u plan on setting your home on fire every weekend lol
its probally due to the fact the materials will be exposed to heat and may degrade so its best to get a new one
@@Newberntrains That should be clarified. One time use taken as is means one time use. To make it clear and generate more confident sales it should clarify not to use again after exposure to damaging heat or other elements also made clear and that it's safe to use a guaranteed high number of times for drills or other uses.
it can be reused safely l guess this is just for legal puropse
Caution: NEVER USE A FIRE ESCAPE LADDER.
In many designs windows, the screen takes some effort to remove. Your options are to leave it in knowing in an emergency you'll have to break through it, or remove it permanently. The latter option is the safer one, but you give up the option of letting air blow through that window while stopping insects. I'll accept that limitation.
Oh my. That's freaky. So does anyone have any recommendations for wide window sills? Mine is wide (20-22 inches) :/, with a (seemingly unstable) wooden edge at the end. So if I put that escape ladder on, I am worried that it would slip up and off. So given that my ledge is super wide, I want to make sure I buy a good one. Would you (or anyone) know anything about this?
I am starting to look into getting a safety ladder or rope because there has been at least one fire a year in each apartment block I've lived in for the past couple years... so I want to be prepared...
And unfortunately, I cannot practice given my apartment location.
Contact your local fire department and see what their recommendation is. They can help you assess what fire protection measures are already in place in your building and assist you in developing an escape plan with two ways out of every room.
Jessie Jg, I've never tried one of these, but it stops your descent if you go too fast, and then you pull the handle again to continue your decent.
Firefighters supposedly rely on them if they have to bail out. Video:
"EXO AP - Personal escape system with anchor hook"
Be sure and use a safety harness that is very secure, otherwise if you tip over, you could fall out of it.
I recommend taking a **mountaineering course** to get in some practice repelling.
You can get a fixed ladder like the ones in the video. It's installed into the wall, you take it out and there's no way it would fall off. Much more safer than those detachable ones.
buy two cheap used dumbbells and a used set of plates that in total weigh slightly more than you. Assemble them and just leave them under your bed. Doesn't really cost anything, doesn't take any visible space in your apartment, can easily be carried to the window in less than a minute. As a bonus, it warms up your forearm muscles which are used for the ladder. The only downside is losing a couple ft of ladder length.
Attaching the ladder to _any_ window sill is a dumb idea for obvious reasons. A dumbbell is designed to not break.
@@bestchannelintheworld could also use a bags of gravel tie a rope to them on floor corner to window but simpler to just tie to the bed that will move to window as your veight comes on ladder or rope.
surely a good rope tied to a bed post? ... for the last person down...everyone else gets lowered down in a loop?
a long 2x4 that can be barred against the window, 1 inch rope with big knots will do the trick. Yeah! sit on the loop and grab the rope tight. I think of a way to use a pulley to lighten the weight
Hopefully not ikea bed that has been moved a couple of times 😁
@@chrismackay8314lmfao
Lowering persons are for experts only- Don’t do it.
Think could be effective if their left by the windows incase of emergency that there no other escape. True unsafe due to providing a window of oxygen to feed fire and fact you can fall. But it may save your life if no other options
Caution: NEVER USE A FIRE ESCAPE LADDER
Part deux of the story of my life?!
Step back for a minute and just look at who would need to use these devices. Your reporter is fairly fit and agile but even he struggled to safely use any of the ladders to escape the building and this where he was not under stress with smoke and flames around the building which could easily compromise the abilities of both the escapees and the actual ladder. If those wishing to leave were overweight,less agile, aged or even youngsters or babies as per the home owner in the clip then none of these devices would assist escape. Something that may help would be smoke hoods like used in aircraft, these could be easily stored in upstairs rooms and aid the escapees from being overcome by the smoke and fumes produced by most fires.
The reality is that any unfit person is significantly more likely to die in any given survival situation. Fitness is the number one thing you can do for survival. Like you said, no overweight or elderly person will be able to use this, and certainly no overweight mother is going to be able to carry hereslf and her baby down a webbing ladder. If a person is physically capable of using one of these ladders, it might be a good idea to have one since the cost is low. Realistically, it is far more advantageous to have many working smoke alarms and a solid escape plan. Modern smoke alarms detect fire so early that "get low and go" is likely the fastest and safest way to exit from a fire, but it only works if you have working alarms and know where your exits are. It's not a coincidence the two most harped on fire safety measures are have working smoke alarms and have an escape plan.
@@jasong1058 Smoke hoods in upstairs rooms would be a better investment as they would allow the occupants a better chance of survival to escape the building.
ok then a rope with knots already tied to the oven pipe under window, then just throw it out maybe have it in a plastc bag rolled up to throw
@@orangestoneface A rappel line for hose with an adventurous side.
This is why there’s no excuse for an able bodied human to be obese. It makes you a liability to yourself and loved ones.
Yes I understand disabilities and age also play a role in this conversation. Those aren’t controllable factors.
If you’re fat stop eating and start walking.
didn't show the hard part gettin on it from small window
The Kidde ladder is not deep enough to span our windows. Nor are our window and sill configurations as flat as that modern one in the video. There's not enough variety in the escape ladder market. I looked to buy escape ropes but they all seem to be made in China from Chinese suppliers so I can't trust the delivery or quality to be accurate.
could use a strong long enouch beam of wood or metal across window opening , or just have rope or wire or chain always tied to bed that will then be pulled to window when you climb out and veight pulls on it. but then you have a chain or rope always on floor in corner or can hang it up a bit on wall . mabye put it in a tube pipe for looks . or drill a fastener into wall on inside of window then no long chain on floor . mabye safest to go into a harness first and have a short rope wire chain to be hanging just below window or is that too close to heat flames comeing out , then what halfway to next floor below or but the longer the rope the more risk if fall down big shock when reach end of rope.
@@orangestoneface Thanks for your suggestions. The beam's or pole's a good idea. I'm not sure about the bed idea, as it's only MDF and might break under the strain. I have found a rope in the house that could be tied around the central pillar of a double window. My alternative it to throw myself on the garden hedge. That maybe a bit spiky but I could throw some bedding on it first to cushion the fall. It's only 2 stories high but bones can still be broken in a straight drop from that height.
@@heliotropezzz333 break l doubt it beds are sturdy , maybe not go from window into smoke filled room to look for bedding. reminds me of whatsher name rabbit someting lair or . on twitch . she went into a burning house to save her rabbit , vary bad . once in her room she realised could not go back through smoke too risky had to jump out window two storeys l think bad back injury months in recovery . , it can help to know how to hang on sill first to lessen fall ,also how to land parachuters using old kind leant that and maybe practice it a bit bent but stiff legs l think and other more so fall on side and curve spine in a way that breaks the fall. helmet.
@@orangestoneface Bedding is within 3 feet of window. It's hard to hang from the window because directly below the window is a bay window underneath and the sloping roof of that sticks out. There is one window that is not over the bay, but underneath that is a stone path. Just at the side of the bay window is a small space that has a softer landing on the soil or the hedge but it's a longer drop to the soil. Thanks for the advice. I think I know what my options are now.
Wow kidde makes bad fire extinguishers and bad ladders lol
Maybe test it while belayed.
It's not bolted to the damn wall what do these people expect when it buckles back 🤣🤣
If u have young kids, don't get the wobbly ladder
So what about young children. Highly doubt they could use this product.
is good for kids, maybe ok for some parents or adults but really no good at all for fat people or for 60+-year people