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Big EPA Hit | What It Means For Truck Owners
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In this eye-opening episode, we dive into the recent news that's shaking up the trucking world: Cummins has been slapped with a staggering $1.675 billion fine by the EPA. But what does this mean for truck owners and the industry at large? We've got Vinny from Lead Foot Diesel on board to give us his expert take. He'll be sharing his thoughts on the fine, the buzz among truck owners, and more. Plus, Vinny reveals the latest trends he's seeing in truck repairs right in the shop. Whether you're a truck enthusiast or just keen on the big moves in the automotive world, this is one conversation you won't want to miss!
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The EPA delete mod is the mod we all need!
I think I speak on behalf of everybody when I say fuck the EPA.
It's all about money and control, I mean the EnVirOnmEnt....
thats why i started building my own trucks a long time ago. there are still ways to side step all the bull schite... obviously going out a buying a brand new truck and side stepping is not an option for most because they have regular inspection, for others the truck is under a car note for 10 years therefore not privately owned. if you start with something that falls outside the requirements you can put whatever you want how ever you want, under the hood. Commiefornia falls completely outside these possibilities because the citizens have voted to be ruled OVER and not represented.
Don’t forget CARB as well
And twice on Sundays!!!
Absolutely! Fuck those commie bastards. Every trucker needs to park until the epa is banned
In Europe they don’t have def stuff anymore after they noticed that emissions to ship and store the def is worse for the environment.
Do you have some sort of reference we can read about this? Sounds like great news if true.
There was a study not too long ago in California of all states. The def fluid is killing off the trees ability to process co2 back into breathable air. Yet they still push for more and more restrictions
@@haloreaper1000 We need a link to read such a study. That sounds like nonsense to me. DEF is a pain and wasteful but it gets processed into water vapor and nitrogen at the end.
@nspro931 the depths of Google have proven to be deep. But here in the states. Especially in the trucking industry. Rumors have been floating around for a few years about this study. And carb was the one that did the study.
@@haloreaper1000 BS.
These are not laws, they are mandates. None of these epa rules went through congress. Completely unconstitutional.
Amen, and everyone who wrote them and anyone who enforces it needs to go to prison.
Should be the defense for all of them...especially after the ruling against the EPA regarding the train industry or whatever
Thank you very much, I do and did what the hell I needed to during the plandemick anyone who didn’t self sensored themselves and there family’s well being
The EPA gives grants to your local DEQ in a collusion scheme to "tow the line" With whatever the majesty demands. This is a conflict of interest. Local d e q's are accountable to the people they serve not the federal government. They flipped the script and used your money to defraud you In your reasonable right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. All the while your e p a and d e q's disavow the FACT That solar radiation management, solar aerosol geoengineering combined with illegal public testing have been going on for decades Releasing sulfates oxides of metal pathogens Bacteria fungus mold lyme disease... In the name of furthering science violating informed consent and poisoning the public while continually restricting our freedoms and rights. EPA has no jurisdiction. They operate under color of law and must be ignored. We have no contract with them. And none of them can prove.
Their climate change narrative because climate change is climate engineering.
Just like ATF!
I watch my EGT Temps like a hawk on my Duramax , and it never fails. I will pull into my garage and look at my Temps at like 800°F in the turbo, and the DPF is at 900°F and up. So I go for a 30-minute drive at 10MPG. you know, saving the earth😂. 😢
Wow. My 16’ LML never really goes above 500…usually 350-450 unless I’m towing. It’s on a diet and now has an aftermarket turbo but even with the stock turbo it stayed relatively cool. Good ole emissions!
2016 Titan, and I deal with the same aggravating thing
Def ruined titan xd 5l v8 Cummins is a good motor
you would regen less if you drove it like you stole it for the end part of your drive. the system needs very high egts to work properly the hotter the better
We are going to have to transition to diesel-electric hybrids with lithium batteries to truly make DPF work right.
Step 1. Ruin diesel engines.. step 2. Force ev on people.. step 3. Control step 4. You will own nothing..
Step 1 , delete all controls, step 2 go around smoking out intersections / people standing at the bus stop to show them who is boss . FREEDOM !!!!!!!!!
@@bobroberts2371 There are plenty of people out there with deletes, mods and tunes who don't smoke at all.
@@biffwellington1782 Try sitting in a car next to a deleted tuned truck at a stop light when the exhaust is pointing at your open window and they accelerate. There will be a puff of smoke and at minimum heavy fumes.
Think about it, have a look at the soot a diesel engines lube oil picks up in a short time. Now think about that this is a small fraction of what comes out of the exhaust.
Regardless, the smoky / tires sticking out beyond fenders / covered license plate people brought the EPA crack down on themselves.
Do you think the govt doesn't control every aspect of the diesel supply chain? You tin foilers are goofy.
@@bobroberts2371I have an old 1993 F-250 7.3 diesel IDI that's totally stock and has no computer because it's mechanical injection. The only emissions it came with was crankcase vent to the intake manifold.
It has a light smoke when you take off with it and the exhaust does smell but that's the way the truck was built.
I should not have to give up my truck because of the foolishness of a bunch of idiots.
If I can't drive my truck then they can give me the $10,000 dollar's I paid for it in 1998.
Sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things for the benefit of all
As I understood it that due to a recent Supreme Court ruling in another case it was said the EPA did not have the authority to do the things they do to diesel trucks without specific legislation from Congress.
Do I have something wrong?
Nope. And it's pending appeals as of now. After the courts are done with the atf and nfa. Their full attention goes to the epa
For real, none of those agencies have legislative authority
@@haloreaper1000I am missing something. How do you appeal a Supreme Court decision? They kick it back to a lower court for something?
@@stevenmiller6725 not sure. I'm 20 minutes into the video and they haven't touched the subject yet. So turning into a click bait video title.
@stevenmiller6725 it's in a district court. It's getting appealled up to the scoj
My old 7.3 with a manual transmission gets about 19 - 20 mpg around town moving my 6500 pound (empty) truck. That tells me it's pretty efficient. It has never had a tune or modifications. My truck is not killing the planet.
same here , loving my 98 24V daily driver .
7.3 20 mpg ?
@@aneyesky Yes. I've gotten anywhere from 17 to 21 depending on what I am towing and doing with the truck. I think the manual helps.
Edit: It's also a 2wd.
@@aneyeskymaybe not 20 but damn close
Yes the manual is better on mpg, but my 99 long bed extended cab 4x4 7.3 gets 19-21mpg in the city and 25 plus on the high driving hard. It's is tuned. I normally run it at 360 HP but I can bump it up to 400 HP. So no it's not uncommon for you to get 20 mpg plus out of the 7.3. Why do you think they took them away from you
He nailed the point on most oversight of government agencies that are sponsored by big donors, its all about $$$MONEY$$$
I live in a rural area and we don't have emissions testing. Their are to many politics involved especially today. My 7.3 isn't rolling coal 24/7 but I cant imagine all that exhaust restrictions on my truck it would be in the shop all the time. Like with gas engines the technology is out their to make these platforms run clean and more mpg but the all mighty profit ruins it. Its not just the EPA its the federal government.
Call it Federal Government is good, but E. P. A. and all groups, that call themselves government groups, usually don’t recognize authority of The Government Of The United State of America, nor do these groups support A Bill Of Rights.
The Government of the United States Of America is the fourth amendment, that the highway is right, the people are right to use their highway and that car and truck are right for state and the people
To sound a little more intelligent on the subject, you should learn the difference between "their" and "there". 🙄
@frankdank7507 Yeah spell check on a phone coupled with me not proof reading my comment. Along with keyboard warriors and one uppers just can't let things go. Also not to sound more intelligent your wrong
They’re pretty reliable they’re just kinda expensive to maintain bc most people dont change the def filter and run it low on def but the government does want diesels to belong to people who make money with them not guys who race them
@@SPUNLEE "you're" But whatever dude.
And people wonder why Cat got out of the highway engine’s pre def mandate
Cat ain't out of the game entirely, look at the new 3406E offerings, no remanufactured junk. All new block castings, new head, new crank, new cam, new turbo but using a 1999 date code.
@@TheRoadhammer379called a glider kit. Other engine manufacturers offered the same thing. Those have all been banned for several years now too
There is a Supreme Court case that has just had oral arguments that could drastically effect the EPA’s ability to make determinations and “reinterpret” laws into new regulations. The case is called “Loper Bright Enterprises V. Raimondo.”
I'm reading up on this now, thank you!
Imagine being a government agency that writes regulations that are viewed as "law" that is incarcerating and fining business owners who are trying to help hardworking people. We as a country can truly do better.
Its wrong to delete your truck but ok to do a wiener delete. Thats the system that we live in. Pardon me while I go puke. My truck runs great on a weight loss diet, has tons of power and dont role coal even with a 150hp tune. The only smoke rollin outta my truck is from the tires. What happened to America? Burnin rubber, eatin cheeseburgers, and shootin guns.
What happened to America? the blue party and stupid people voting.
Well they are creating a emasculated society with weiner deletes in a hope when civil war comes again no "man" will fight back, another reason they are going after guns
The worst thing is while you're waiting for parts, if your vehicle is under warranty. Your warranty is still ticking away. I'm waiting for my 2020 3500 for an injector wiring from Cummings for a month now. And the warranty is ticking away. Dodge doesn't even know if it'll fix my truck
There’s the obvious solution; get rid of your useless warranty.
The issue is on record at the dealership. Even if it went past warranty, the service date will grandfather it in should your warranty expire.
@@thetrailouttherewhat about other issues that weren’t related to current issues and would’ve been taken care of under warranty if it hadn’t lapsed while the truck sat? It’s a legit concern.
That's a huge concern indeed, considering how unreliable these trucks seems to be now
@wayneerikson1163 while the truck is at the dealership , you can bring those issues up so they can add them to the repair order. As long as it's documented at the dealership within your warranty window, most manufacturers honor the warranty. Just don't be that guy that shows up at mile 35,999 of your 36k mile bumper to bumper warranty to have the dealership inspect anything that's covered by warranty because it's about to expire and you want to make sure they fix any issue they find before the warranty is out. That happens lol.
Dude,it’s like government telling you that our border is open and nothing you can do….Didn’t work out,did it?….Same here
My DEF went BAD and two months and $4000.00 later I got it back. You're right FUCK DEF.
I have been in the semi truck industry for 25+ years. I work at a dealership now but have worked on all brands. The aftertreatment system is killing the trucks. The breakdowns, parts shortage and costs, and with labor rates being $200+/- it doesn't take long to build a huge bill. That cost has to go somewhere. We as the end user is who gets stuck with it. Now with shipping rates so terrible and fuel costs, companies are dying at a fast rate, and it isn't going to slow down any time soon.
You nailed it, it's hurting the people making these foolish rules too, it's reflected in the cost of every day items. Because at the end of the day, EVERYTHING we all consume at some point took a ride on a diesel train or a diesel truck. The more inefficient these trucks are, the more the cost of living goes up for EVERYONE!
Diesel Podcast subscribers I need to vent a bit.
I grew up in a state that was the “birthplace” of hot rods, NHRA and so many other cool things centered around the vehicle. At 15 I remember this same state implementing its first emissions test. Luckily for me I drove a vehicle that was pre 1976 or what ever year the cut off was for the test.
Today at almost 55 years of age today I would have never guessed that “simple” emissions test along with California’s own CARB would snowball into what it has become today with all its strength, influence, power added to the EPA’s reach.
From restrictions on certain aftermarket parts being ordered/shipped to my home (state) to the recent emissions recall notice I received from Ram, it’s my belief, this all goes back to that “simple” test back in 1984!!! This unfortunately reaches the motorcycle community or virtually anything with a fuel burning engine that’s sold to the public.
Why am I saying this?
Well as I said I wanted to vent but also (and maybe I late to the party) but I wanted this to hopefully be a lesson/warning for all those out there in other states.
But also I say this because it’s my belief that restrictions like this stymie growth and innovation at the grassroots level. Especially for garage guys like myself who love to tinker and pass down some things to his kids.
✌🏽🇺🇸🙏
And people wondered why Ford went through all the trouble to bring out a brand new 7.3 gas motor. It's not a diesel but honestly it has the power/torque to what most people need it to do without all the diesel drama.
Years ago they caught a car engineer on mic and I heard the conversation where he admitted that when you are going down hill with no throttle input your vehicle ECU is dumping fuel into your engine for the sole purpose to heat the catalytic converter. I don't know if this happens on diesels, but it wouldn't surprise me. Why don't they regulate from the combustion chamber and not all the add-ons? I particularly liked the oxygen pump to take away horsepower and engine efficiency to meet the tailpipe requirements :)
I added a turbo, turned up the fuel pump on my IDI.. and guess what, better MPG.
You're destroying the planet brah, think of the Koala's 'N chit !!
😅
Miss my 7.3 IDI but the truck was falling apart around the solid drive train.
What is / who makes an L5P ?
Great explanation of the problems in today’s diesel repair world that many don’t realise. Thank you!
1990 1st Gen Cummins. And, I know every inch of it.
Thank you, thank you.
It's disgusting that u spend 70 80 100 thousand dollars on a truck and the manufacturer doesn't care that isn't right
If the dpf bs was so good why don’t the military use them on their diesels.
because the fuel they use isn't compatible. Military uses the same fuel for many types of equipment & some of that equipment isn't able to run ULSD.
I think it’s because that crap is so unreliable that they don’t wanna have to deal with it.
@@4wdtennessee459 You can "think" that, but in reality it's because the primary fuel the military uses isn't regular #2 ultra low sulphur diesel. Especially in a combat environment, JP-8 (similar to kerosene) & used in trucks, tanks, heavy equipment and even helicopters.
The Demoncraps are trying to make all military vehicles all electric. Tanks, MRAPS, 6x6 trucks, even aircraft.
To have the least amount of problems with your diesel work truck is to always always be careful fueling, no dirt, no water, clean clean fuel with a good liquid additive is so important.
Keep your oil clean, and air cleaner too !
Remember, cp4s are used in Europe and work very well as the European diesel fuel is better, higher cetane and more refined, unlike Americas diesel fuel.
Have a professional fix your motor with tuning and get the best out of your trucks !
No water, no dirt and no def !
They can run so good and last a long time !
Given this conversation, this isn't just happening with diesel trucks. It's happening with tuner and modified cars as well. Literally, people are still getting tickets in places that are emissions tickets, for not keeping a car stock. Yet the emissions on the car are better than what stock emissions are required to be.
From what I've seen, people are under the impression that if a car is "modified," then somehow what comes out of the exhaust is worse than what it otherwise would be. And this is not the case.
Im still rolling around in a 88 f250 7.3idi.....no plans to change that.
You can still find deleters in Florida, if they ever go away, I'll start deleting at my house. Deleting is never going away till they do away with def
Can confirm Vinny is my favorite guest
I appreciate it, I enjoy Patrick's questioning, he's an excellent interviewer. I frequent several different podcasts and this one is definitely my favorite. There's a Diesel Podcast Afterhours episode coming out soon that you will enjoy!
You need a DPF on that huge polluting cigar.
😂😂😂😂😂
F$$$ DPFs
Yup, self centered polluters
Emissions equipment in general do more work when the engine is cold warming up then when the engine is at operating temperature and properly tuned computers can reduce emissions look into Gale Banks products and what his company does but still sucks that government vehicles can be purchased from the factory without any emissions equipment
The gov knows its unreliable and expensive. Thats all we really need to know. There is a supreme court case that could upend the EPA's authority to regulate.
Wait, are you sure? If that’s true, that means that you could buy those same vehicles when they go out to surplus
Military vehicles, NOT "government" vehicles. The majority of "government" vehicles are fully equipped with the same emissions equipment that comes on any vehicle you'd buy off the manufacturers lot.
@@noneya61 absolutely, if you're interested in a 30 year old Hummer, maybe a 50 year old 5 ton. There is some newer construction equipment is available at some auctions that would've had some sort of emissions equipment if it was civilian only. Interested in a 30ton dozer?
@@jeffs2809 you just had to burst my bubble didn’t you! 🤣🤣
I was also wondering how many suckers still had def on these recalled trucks. When you buy ANY diesel, the first thing you do is delete the def and egr. You will get more mpgs and lower engine temps
You think you have it bad, I have a 2014 Grand Cherokee Ecodiesel. The EPA mandated re-tune makes it feel like I'm towing a garbage truck behind it, and dropped the mileage at least 10%. Oh, and it also lost a rod 200 miles into a 230 mile trip and puked a couple of quarts of oil on the side of the road before being hauled to the dealer on a diesel flatbed to wait for another half ton of ore to be mined somewhere with diesel equipment before being shipped overseas to Italy to be built into another engine, before being shipped on a carrier that burns a gallon of tar sludge every 4 inches or so as it moves across the ocean (no emissions on those); before being trucked from Detroit to Florida to be installed in my vehicle. Yeah it;s a run on sentence, but it was far more annoying in real life🙂
This all happened at just under 7 years old with 64K miles on it, and only 4K miles after FCA replaced the failed EGR cooler, the melted intake, a melted valve cover, melted injector tubes and cracked turbo hoses under a recall and AEM warranty. They also hit my aftermarket warranty for $1700 to fix a timing cover leak and front main seal on it.
This is my wife's car which got the oil changed every 5K (factory suggests 10K), fuel filters every 20K and wasn't used for heavy duty service, towing, etc., but did a fair number of long road trips between 50-2000 miles. It's up to around $21K in repairs paid by the aftermarket warranty. It stinks as it's a great driving vehicle, but it's the least reliable turd I've ever owned. Warranty runs out in October 14th, selling it on the 13th!
☹☹☹ I've got 3 customers here at the shop, they told me the exact same story.
How much longer till these anti-Diesel ideologs target the older trucks?
That's a terrifying reality I am not excited to be a part of.
Exactly I have an old 1993 F-250 with the
7.3 IDI it's mechanical injection no computer. It has very light smoke on take off.
Otherwise it's a very clean running truck
commiefornia is starting to target older diesels
This dude is legit. We need men like this to run for political positions. It’s the only way we fight back. We can pool our money as a community and support these types of people
I appreciate the support!
I know this is an older video but we had the #1 and #6 piston rings fail on our 07 cummins 3500 with 168k miles, the rings were broken in 2 spots. it has no tuner so I'm learning anything can happen. I had to bore it .20 over due to cylinder wall damage. Currently reassembling the engine longblock while listening. Great stream guys!
There needs to be a huge class action lawsuit against Cummins and Ram for deception. People bought these trucks in good faith that they would run a certain way and then to find out their truck is going to be altered in some way that will cost them even more money is unfair. Maybe while some in Congress are trying to do away with the IRS they can eliminate the EPA at the same time.
I'm a no one no body that bought or ordered off the shelf tuner and was able to tune my trucks to have lot more reliable power and not blow smoke at all or just barely any smoke and people couldn't understand how I did it. But I had powerstroke 7.3, 6.0, 6.4, and the 6.7
Anyone can purchase an off the shelf programmer and set it on level 1, 2, 3, tow, street, or performance setting. The tuning issues we are discussing in this video is custom tuning, where the customer calls a tuning company and say..
"Hey, I have a 2020 duramax with 60% over injectors, a twin turbo setup with dual CP3's and I need custom tunes to make all these parts play nice together."
If that calibration the company sends to the end user isn't PERFECT, it can result in cracked pistons, broken crank shafts, blown up transmissions Etc. It's a really bad problem in the industry right now.
Always love to listen to you guys.
You just convinced me to never buy a Diesel truck. Thank you ❤
I had a 2015 Duramax and a 2019 Duramax that as soon as I hit 100k miles, the DPF went and all the lights came on.
I now own an older diesel.
My next tow rig will be a 1 ton gasser. Done with the games of the EPA.
Ford and Chevy make good gassers, I think the Ford 7.3 is going to be a hard engine to be at and I'm not a Ford guy, GM 6.6 may still have the DOD AFM failure that the other Chevy engines deal with, I have a pile of older dodges, guy told me good thing I still have a 5.7 in my old work truck cause his new 6.4 work truck is hard on gas, take it for what it is
@@cargotoolshop5319The Chevy 2500 and 3500 do not have afm/did on the 6.6 gas. Only on 1500 size
The GM 6.6L L8T DOES NOT have AFM DOD. Sadly, the Ram 6.4L DOES have MDS.
Just like the department of education where does it say anything about the EPA in the constitution?
When you think about the small fleet towing company's 900 mil fine and some prison time 1.7 bil dont seem like a whole lot for a world wide entity that's many thousands of times bigger.
I want to know what the fine go towards besides lawyers, and the Gestapo. Just seems messed up an unelected branch has so much power over our lives. Even our wash machines and dishwashers are ruined by the climate rules. The trouble I went though just to find a wash machine with out the water sensing fill level thing.
Your channel still small enough to see my comment. I hope you are curious enough to do some investigating to see what the fine go towards. Atm I see nothing good from all these over the top rules. as everything has con that is bigger than pro
Worse fuel economy = more pollution
Several things I've observed in the trucking industry. During covid and supply shortage, the EPA green lighted dealers to turn off dpf/def systems until the supply chain stabilized. Next, I am seeing a lot of 2020,2021 trucks for sale and advertising "fresh rebuilt engine", that's literally a 2 and 3 yr old truck, maybe 500k miles with a fresh rebuild. Next, my 3 trucks are gliders, all are 12.7 detroits 1999s, all are highly modded for big power, all average at least 6.5mpg pulling flatbed and the blocks are all between 2.5-3million miles, all three engines were inframed twice, in 07 and 2014, and full out of frames in 2021. My buddy has a fleet of 389s and w900s, 2022/2023 and they've had nothing but problems with the emissions, turbos and mpg sucks.
Well if you look at the emissions on cargo ships why do they even waste their time with trucks they are nothing compared to cargo ships
If you study Ideal gas law at atmospheres absolute you can easily disprove climate change narratives in relation to specific element CO2. Their physics of time, temperature and pressure dose not correlate with physics or Ideal Gas Laws. The base line coefficient of CO2 condensates at, 800 PSI @ room temp or 65 degrees Fahrenheit. To calculate that over a surface area or parts per million us this equation per ratio of atmospheric gases .7854xdia.2/PSI. You can win a court case with those equations because they are repeatable results at atmosphere absolute.
EPA and CARB should sell approved tunes for different equipment the end result could be better then the compromise manufacturers are stuck with…
Thank you for info
Hope Government becomes more of a team instead of hurting everyone involved. Better R&D SDR Fast sounds like the plan as long as allowed.
May not they don’t know how to partner very well seems fines and treats more their game
No way there is 85% participation in the recall if there is performance hit on the recall. Cummins/FCA signed that they will get to 85% participation rate OR face additional fines for the full amount of 37k+5k per truck produced.
If I have the above correct - heard it on this channel I believe.
@@patricksquires77 while most people won't take their truck back for the recall, many will take their trucks back for service, repair, warranty items etc. These dealers aren't required to ask permission to update the ECM/PCM with updates. If the customer goes into a dealer for an oil change, they're getting the update regardless. It's always been that way, can't tell you how many customers we deal with a year that bought a programmer for their truck and the dealership flashed the truck without asking and bricket the programmer making it worthless. We've been dealing with that problem for 20 years.
I wonder if the injection pump failures on the l5p has to do with people not running fuel additive?
No
International D446E. No Def 💪🏽
I’ve seen this stupidity for a long time. Step back to the early 2000’s; and I’ll never forget this as long as I live, I was watching a news broadcast and they were interviewing the CEO of GM. They were talking about production cost and emissions on gasoline powered vehicles. He stated in this interview that they could actually make gasoline powered vehicles run cleaner and obviously make more power without catalytic converters but the government; EPA, wouldn’t let them stop putting them on the vehicles. Definitely nothing changed.
We have to get you guys on CNN , FOX , excellent video
It's about control.
I understand the new emissions are making trucks clean. BUTT!!! Take note motors that at one time lasted 500k-100000k and were more dirty with less energy used to produce the older motors. New motors use more energy to produce them and maintain and don't live as long 250-300k at most. Soo the new motors need to be built. Long term we won't have old diesels trucks after 10 years when the parts run out and you can't delete it
New motors last over 1million miles in OTR applications with proper maintenance. I am talking about 12 and 15 liter motors not the small ones in pickup trucks.
Only the wealthy, or people who are willing to be car poor, can purchase newer vehicles these days. We have moved backwards from Henry Ford's idea of everybody owwning vehicles.
I got a paper in the mail the other day from ford saying there is a emissions update for the 6.7 power stroke mine is a 2012 so im assuming its the 2011-16 i think may be what it said
I know that it is not the topic here, but what is it with diesel enthusiasts attracting attention to illegally modified trucks rolling coal? You guys are practically begging the EPA to look closely at diesel emissions.
I need to get on your podcast I have a technology that has been helping the diesel truck industry for over 16 years. We have hardcore data and long durability test. We have two California EOS for this technology. We are selling this technology in eight different countries.
EPA, ATF… there are definitely some agencies we need to be done with
I did a stealth delete on my 2010 6.7. I left the CAT on. Ran better, went from 10-12 AVG to 18-22 AVG. MPG and exhaust was still clean and smelled clean. DPFs and DEF is just a scam IMO.
What is a stealth delete? I got a 2011 6.7 with shitty mpg(as you know). I am always getting p2020 code, put in new o2 sensor front and rear on emissions and still getting p2020 codes..
@@josecoronado3739 I Gutted out the exhaust, except for the CAT and left the muffler on. Plugged everything back in. If you looked underneath the truck, you would never know it was deleted. It was still just as quiet. The exhaust brake was a tad bit higher. I unplugged the EGR valve. I went with EFI live for the tune.
S&S diesel has the answer
Mexico doesnt do emissions on trucks, Canada has less emission regulations for trucks as well, the def is ruining the highways in cali
I am glad i have an lbz the pre emissions, but i wouldnt be surprised if the epa starts going after older trucks as well
They talked about the EPA's failed attempts to go after pre-07 trucks in the previous podcast
@@lb9gta307.i will keep my 2001 p pumped for ever.greeting’s from Indiana.
No emissions on any military vehicles .
I have a 2023 kenworth t680 . MX 13 PACCAR. solid engine. However that DEF garbage, environmental crap is nothing but a headache
Good luck. I cooked a 2018 paccar at 218000.
Are the ecm locked after they return from the 67a emissions recall? Just wondering if weight loss possible after vin cleared
Great Channel.
We need cases against the EPA same as the ATF
Why not take those pumps apart and coat the moving parts with diamond like coatings I truly believe that will make it last longer. I would get a few of those pumps in and set yourself up to do those coatings yourself. This is six in a row Jim Kennedale, Pennsylvania
The pump issue is the fuel is used as lubrication. Diesel fuel is a poor lubricant but a fair solvent.
Wear surfaces isn't the underlying problem. The problem is, there's two roller style lifters that sit in each bore, the rollers ride a camshaft lobe. There's nothing keeping the lifters from turning sideways in the bore and that's what happens. It can happen at 30,000 miles, or 300,000 miles. It's not a lack of maintenance issue, it's literally a design flaw that's just like... SURPRISE BUTT SEX!!!! I don't work here anymore and you owe me $12,000 it really does suck for us the consumer.
I just wonder if a class action lawsuit would be a good thing because I was watching this dude called Latos law he’s out of Michigan attorney anyway he was talking about what it takes to make a class action lawsuit. I think that would work because there’s no excuse for those people to send a product like that out and in the market.
Medium duty 6.7s only make 300hp and 600 torque the one in the ram makes almost double that and pickups have to adhere to stricter emissions
Not true the MD trucks have DEF too
20% is what vehicles do for pollution, what about the 80% by corporations?
I have a high mileage 2020 L5P what am I going to be fixing? Does the FASS fix any issue I may have? I have a few Banks electronic parts but other than that it’s bone stock.
Flat rate is a bad way of doing business anyway. Never take your vehicle to a flat rate shop. When working flat rate you make more the quicker you get done, so it's in the mechanics best interest to take short cuts and do a half ass job to get it out the door and make the most money. Most shops I know have gone to hourly. Flat rate is unethical imo
Our technicians are all on salary, but they can get weekly bonuses four hours turned in over 40 hours. It's worked out well, we have very few comebacks.
The first rule of Fight Club... is you dont talk about Fight Club.
All this is disincentivizing purchase of any diesel. It sucks when there's no alternative. They cost more than ever.
I will never be left in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night and have to be towed to a dealer so i wait 2 weeks for service. I’ll just build what I want. Get video.
I figure this is not a good time to order anything that comes Motor Freigthaha cause allte truckers went to Texas.😂😅😅
Many commentors here still don't understand these diesel emissions systems. I understand the transportation and packaging of def/adblue isn't helping the environment but def itself is not harmful. Also the def system itself technically has nothing to do with the dpf or a regen. Regen is when the dpf is becoming plugged, exhaust temp is raised to burn filter out. Def is injected into exhaust only to react with the catalytic converter. Def is there to lower nox, dpf is there to filter soot, and egr is there to also lower nox. Egr systems are probably the biggest problem, can cause major reduction in engine life. Now plugged dpfs can also be harmful to the engine. Def on the other hand doesn't come in contact with engine, engine can be tuned to run clean, near no soot, engine stays clean along with oil.
Agree, a lot of misinformed ideas floating around. The problem isn't DEF at all. It's the manufactures making/buying the cheapest crap system they can get their hands on, so of course they fail.
A well running no fault def system literally means there will be no soot in the exhaust pipe. Seen it my self by literally swiping my finger in the exhaust pipe of a 13L Volvo engine. There's nothing but a thin layer of grey ash at the very most. The latest one I had was three years old and the pipe was clean metal, never smokes black. But the nox sensors crap out at an alarming rate. Crap components with a heavy OEM price tag.
Fuel mileage on a 64,000kg unit, that's 141 095 lbs which far exceeds most US big rigs by a lot, still manages 5-6 mpg. Granted speed is euro governed at 52 mph though
Thank you both for your time and input.
I do live in SCal , fortunately I live close enough to be able to buy my fuel on Marine Corp base Camp Pendleton .I was a machine gunner.
I do own a 1996 F350
power stroke / smog exempt 😊
I did a waste gate delete pedestal, and converted to the electronic fuel pump,and just did a DP tuner and just put 2 new CAT fuel and water extractor filters.
I'm running the old girl @60 psi regulated fuel pressure and all is great, is this the recommended psi?
Am I breaking any laws after doing all my own work ?
I have the same truck, those are great upgrades and yes, you've broken the law according to the EPA. DP tuner does not have CARB/EO certifications for their tunes or tuning devices. You could swap that out for an Edge Revolver (same exact thing) and they do have their CARB/EO certs. If you don't pay the Mob their testing fees which allow you to break the law, then you must pay their fines for breaking the law. It's a pretty neat little system the government has going on here.
@vinnyhimes1190 so Dp told me it's legal .
My 1996 F350 is smog exempt, just like my 1970 Chevy C10 350
@@tomwalton2872 LOL, it's a giant joke man. The EPA literally makes the rules up as they go from shop to shop. The actual law they are trying to enforce state "Any aftermarket product that alters the way the vehicle ran from the factory is illegal to manufacture, sell, offer for sale, to purchase or install." so by that definition the DP tuner is illegal, that law was written in the 60's and amended several times since then. But that's what the ePA agent stuffed in my face when they visited our shop. We have no diesel emissions here in the state of Georgia which is where Dp Tuner is located. But the EPA is enforcing federal law, not state law. So that's where we get into trouble.
@vinnyhimes1190 I was earlier under the impression that it was illegal only to the shops to mislead consumers and profit from said mods.
How much would the fine be approx? And would they be able to put me out of service/say I can't move her?
My Chevy 350 pick up is very much a Frankenstein with a 305 and a camero automatic transmission .
@@tomwalton2872 these are fantastic questions. So the law they stuffed in my face when they visited our facility stated,
"Any product that alters the way the vehicle runs from the factory is illegal to manufacture, sell, offer for sale, or to purchase or install."
I in turn asked the agent if we could no longer sell 40" tires. He said it was fine, they're just tires. I replied that they do in fact re-gear the vehicle which alters the RPM at which the vehicle drives down the interstate at 70mph which alters the electronic injection timing and a whole slew of other things. His face turned red and he couldn't answer me.
So do I think you are going to get pulled over and fined for what you have done to your truck? Probably not, because they don't even know what they are enforcing. They are cherry picking the low hanging fruit and going for the easy fines which is deletes on newer diesels. When that money runs out, I'm sure they will hunt you down along with the rest of us. This is a money grab and has nothing to do with enforcing laws that protect the environment. The EPA is a self funded 3 letter agency.
Screw the new stuff. Buy and build old!!!!
You might want to check your information or maybe look at the box and see where these parts are manufactured. Most of these parts come from overseas and not the USA.
We are very well aware that many of the parts we install are made overseas. They still ship into a US facility to be assembled, boxed and shipped. Those facilities shut down during Covid, I chase these parts for a living, that's part of my day to day job. I can track a FoMoCo part number for a keyless entry fob, all the way back to the internal motherboard that comes from Thailand while the housing comes from India, but the two pieces never meet until they are shipped to an assembly plant in Michigan.
The EPA needs to be shut down
the thousands of kids blowing loud unburnt fule in your windows is what makes people hate desil trucks. if you dont work it it everyday you dont need it
Most of them are trying to do a job with a little truck that really should be done with a big truck that requires a CDL. They turn up the little engines and destroy reliability as well as void warranties and violate EPA regulations.
Womp womp… some people just like loud fast big trucks… get over it more than likely you are just sad you can’t afford one…
Agree completely. They are highly responsible for the crackdown on diesel emissions. Or diesel hatred.
@@6724superman And you be an idiot.........
You definitely don't have to work it every day to need it
Shut down epa
On the L5P cracked pistons. You say it’s attributed to bad tunes. Are the failures common to let’s say ctt? Who’s tunes are causing that?
75% of the "Tuners" don't do timing split calculations which are necessary to actually engineer the tune correctly ✅
Every tuning company out there locks us out of the ECM/TCm when the tune is loaded. We have no way of knowing who tuned those trucks as each of those customers bought the trucks already tuned and deleted. It's an absolute worst case scenario. Because it's illegal for us to tune the truck, so we put a new engine in and the customer has to go out and try to find someone to help them.
I would love to own a diesel truck but the DEF cuts your milage in half the EGR, DPFs and the rest cut the engine life in half its pointless. I used to own a diesle because I got great milage and power, now diesl is just a money hole.
After hearing the horror story I really lucked out on my 11 duramax. Ive definitely spent money on the emissions but only 3-4 thousand over the years if I had to guess. It uses very little DEF. I might top off 4 or 5 times a year.
@@SimsLogistics I don't rack up many miles on my trucks. It only has 73k on it
What about the duramax crank pin?
I have 3.0L 20018 F-150 Powerstroke and I have zero 0000 issues. It has 127000 miles.
The e p a should be sued for how much pollution they put out.
So will the Deleted truck have to turn back to stock
That's where they are all going to end up sooner or later, this Cummins update is definitely a trap to that effect.
I got my 2008 dodge 3500 Laramie deleted last spring on the dealers advise. My mileage increased from 24 MPG to 28 MPG. I have 80,000 kilometres on it and am asked it I want to sell it, I tell them they can get there name on the list.lol. I’m told by the dealers it’s better the then trucks.
My 2022 cummins has been in the shop 5 times for pressure differential sensor and ser cat replacements 27k miles
☹☹☹☹ That is terrible, but were hear this same thing all day every day.
My 18 Cummins with emissions runs excellent and trouble. Secret to trouble free is never allowing your truck to be turned off while in regen.
Kinda makes sense when you know how much they are trying to force us to electric
so when you register the truck, thats when you get into a contract right?
beware of the new cummins blocks they are now junk sad as an engineer its blows my mind they thought this would not stretch in main bearing area .now if it was gasoline with a 2 barrel carb and 1967 it would be fine but diesel design lol just not smart to fix what was not broken with light weight bs
Liar.