Is This Budget Fixed Angled Sharpener ACTUALLY Worth It?
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- THE COLD STEEL BENCHTOP KNIFE SHARPENER IS A FIXED ANGLED KNIFE SHARPENER WITH AN AFFORDABLE PRICE, AN EASY TO USE SHARPENING SYSTEM, IS THIS THE BEST NEW FIXED ANGLED SHARPENING SYSTEM ON A BUDGET OR SHOULD YOU SPEND YOUR MONEY ELSEWHERE.
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lol you can tell a youtuber actually watches youtube themselves when they do things like that subtitle telling us it wasnt our phone lol
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I bought one a month ago, IMO it's a fail for several reasons: Good for wide blades only due to minimum angle provided, taking out the screw each side, and flex of the rubber jaws, preventing solid hold on blade.
Seems that you covered most of the downsides that I discovered! This won't be replacing my KME, TS-PROF, or Worksharp Precision anytime soon .. LOL 🥴🗡️👊 Thanks and very glad you covered this one!
Thanks for taking a look at this thing! I saw it listed for Preorder on Knifecenter quite a while back, and I thought it looked like a ghetto take on the Wicked Edge sharpeners (in much the same way as the Worksharp PA is a ghetto take on the KME... which was an iterative improvement on the Lansky system... digressions abound!)
It doesn't look like a system I'll pick up, especially as I already fight with low angles on the KME and Worksharp PA, and this seems to exacerbate it rather than remedy the issue.
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Definatly agree on the Worksharp Precision Adjust currently being the better option as compared to this one. The worksharp gets you in the sharpening game for very little money and the expandability of it is great with so many aftermarket add on pieces to make it better over time. This one could have been great short of the instability and the wonky screw to be able to flip it over. Hopefully the issues will be corrected in the next version or some aftermarket parts will come out to take it to the next level. Thanks for the great vid Jerad and keep making sharp things fun and enjoyable.
The worksharp has a couple of the same problems I’ve found. The low angles on narrow blades hitting the guard and the flex under pressure. But the 3d printed piece fixes that in the WS PA setup. So I agree. It is the better option. Especially with the elite add on kit.
Good review
i have a Lanskie diamond sharpening system and it has it's draw backs also but i have sharpened enough on it to be used to it now it's a good system in all
It’s so nice to have a fixed angle sharpener. There was a time when I specifically just used a ceramic rod to keep them sharp. It did work good though but to get a real nice free profile man. Plus it’s so much fun to sharpen them knives and it’s quite an impressive skill to learn imo . Defintely a good life skill .
It's a skill I need to learn. LOL..
@@paulmills426 it’s not hard at all , just watch the vids and have at it . I started with a cheap ruixin pro from Amazon and ot worked great for me 👍 for like $40 it’s cheap but it works well . They just came out with a newer one
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I bought this one when it was released. I didn't like it personally. It reaffirmed my love for the kme/ws precision adjust. It made me realize I wouldn't like a wicked edge also.
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This is basically a wicked edge.
Anything that uses edge pro stones is better as you have 100s of choices for stones. This thing would have limited options.
I'd just save up more for a hapstone or edge pro. More versatile than clamped systems. Table systems can do a variety of blade grinds.
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It seems like the most important part of sharpening is the quality of the stones. You can buy rods anywhere exactly in the right size amazingly cheap. I've made my own rods with stones mounted on them which makes it incredible cheap to do. You don't have to be incredible creative to do this either. Hopefully the free handing is something I'll get better at but until that happens I'll be using my system.
Once again I only just found this in my local store though it might be worth a look but of course, first thing I do is have a look on here and Yes my man Jerad has already had hold of it for which is excellent for me. It can stay exactly where it is!
You’re the one that I trust with no expectations the fact that it moves just defeats the purpose so I already have a KME which means the next upgrade will be the TS without a doubt.
Can’t thank you enough as always stay safe and healthy J&K may your week be blessed with love and happiness both🫵🏻😘👍🏼
I just got the Work Sharp Ken Onion apparatus the other day. I might get the elite addition since it has the strop too. It looks pretty cool. I really like how easy and fast it is to use.
Yea I have had a few of those work sharps and they are my favorite by far.
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Almost. I'll wait on the next generation iteration of this. It has potential to be king of the low cost guided sharpeners. The fix the base flex and rotation issues, get a few more grits, et voila. But for now the work sharp is getting it done for me.
Unscrew the screw to screw the screw ?
Screw that.
It seems like it almost could be a killer system with a weighted base and ability to use any stone 👍
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I’d stick with the worksharp pro, with the stability attachment and ability to get the 3D printed stuff for any stones it’s probably the best system for the money I’ve seen.
I already have the worksharp, but i finally got some bench stones off your links, so I'm going to stick with that. I'm pretty happy with my edges so far.
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Jared thank you man - you recommended the worksharp precision adjust and that’s what I was looking at. God Bless man. Great job brother.
This is why I love this channel good honest review ty Jared for another great video
Angle guides that attach to your knives and sharpening stones. That's all you need, and costs less than $50. Easier to sharpen and you don't have to worry about some contraption wobbling around. If you want to sharpen faster, get one or two mounted belt sanders, set your angles, and go to work. Strop as needed. Love Cold Steel though. Not just for knives, but everything else they sell.
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Two other fixed angled systems that Always gets overlooked and I dunno why. Is DMT Aligner for 60$ comes with 325, 600, and 1200 grit diamond stones. A clamp and a stone holder and a fine diamond rod for serrations. The magna guide comes with 325, 600, 1200, and 8k stones. For 75$ (The 8,000 isn't very good) The clamp and a strong magnetic guide rod. Seven angle adjustments which is dependent on the width of the blade to figure out what angle you wanna use. I have used these for years and I get stupid sharp results. With light pressure both these kits will last between seventy five and a hundred sharpenings.
I bought a similar one to this from Aliexpress, i also bought the Tormek small blade adaptor, can do any size knife. I can get razor sharp edges with mine, if you add the Tormek adapter to this one you will get the same results. I also bolted mine to a square wooden base so it is as solid as a rock. With a bit of thought these are really good well priced little sharpeners. Also the one i purchased is based on the Wicked Edge, no need to keep changing the holder, once you have your angles you just do side to side, and also looks a lot better built than this one. Also huge price difference, they both look like they came out of the same factory, mine cost me $47 US when i purchased including postage and the Tormek adapter was about the same.
I agree with everyone who said the worksharp system is better. But, I would add that you should be able to use tormek’s low angle/small knife adapter with this. It works with my wicked edge which is just a much more expensive system that uses a clamp like this. It should allow this system to be able to achieve lower angles. Even so worksharp is better.
Always appreciate the honest review and for making me look at my phone. 😆
Jerad… I have purchased my last system sharpener after lord knows how many. The set-up time isn’t worth it. I enjoy freehand sharpening. The set-up is almost non existent and it’s satisfyingly therapeutic.
This has a couple of the same issues as the worksharp precision adjust does. The flex and hitting the guard on shallow blades with low angles. But the WS is still a great unit on a budget. Especially the elite kit or the 4” stone holder with Diamond stones.
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I appreciate the honest review, Jerad! I have too many sharpening systems as it is, the Lansky, work sharp pa, Spyderco sharpening rods system(I forget the name), but my favorite and go to is the work sharp field sharpener. It's easy to carry and do anywhere. I won't get mirror polished edges with it, but I'm kinda over mirror polished edges since I can't get as much use with them.
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Even the work sharp one hits when doing low angles
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My problem with these guided sharpeners, at least the ones I've used, is that the stone angle changes when you get nearer the tip until it's eventually not on the edge at all if it's a long blade or a steep drop point. Sometimes it doesn't matter, but it doesn't jive with my OCD that says everything has to be laser perfect and sometimes I feel like it's taking off more steel at the tip than it should be.
Regarding the Lansky in particular, that giant red screw just ruins the whole thing. It's already a pain to get the knife locked in, but then they threw that giant screw in there so you can't use the 17 degree angle on that side at all, but have to flip it in the clamp unless it's a giant knife like an Esee6.
I’m content with my Lansky system, especially after upgrading to diamond stones, but I still use the original stones too sometimes. It’s done everything that I have ever needed it to do, including scary sharp polished edges. Would I like a higher end sharpener? Of course, but I don’t necessarily need it.
See I've got a lansky system and I've had bad luck with it. What progression of stones do you use when sharpening a hard supersteel?
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Yeah, before the Worksharp Precision, I used Lansky and was happy with it. The Worksharp solved some issues with the Lansky, but for best quality edge for least cost of entry, Lasky is the absolute best.
Well this is certain not what I wanted to see/hear😄 thanks for doing this👍.
Within the first few seconds of seeing you operate this thing I knew it wasn't for me 🤷.
I think your assessment for who this is good for is spot-on👍.
It's not so much that it isn't adequate enough for me, it's more like for the price to performance isn't what i hoped for.
I'm probably just going to make my own simple system that has more structural integrity. I have access to all the tools and materials needed at my uncle's machine shop.
Honestly a no thrills system isn't that difficult to make however there's always those.... "I didn't think of that huh🤔" times.
Plus once I start this project there's no way my uncle is going to standby as a season machinist / engineer and not want to help.
I should probably just make it a challenge with him, that way my simple yet functional system will be done in a few days so and I can start using it right away.
And his tricked out superior titanium anodized modern marvel eighth wonder of the world, will be a 6 month personal crusade to show superior dominance even over the Wicked Edge gen 3 Pro.
By no means am I mocking the Wicked Edge gen 3 Pro it looks like an amazing piece of equipment 👍.
And once he completes his modern marvel fixed sharpening system, I can just throw mine in the garbage, and use his instead 🤷😂. I just need to pad his ego a little bit, for a job well done 😉.
How do I know this is going to work, last year I had to make a custom upper and lower bracket to hold my alternator in my 72 Chevelle.
My bracket was fine and plenty strong enough and perfectly inline and all, totally sufficient👍.
He ended up making a different one that looks like it came out of East Coast Chevelle catalog lol whatever🤷. It's not like I'm taking it to car shows or anyting😂.
Anyways thanks for the review sir✌️.
This is a great thing! Having multiple options now in the marketplace at varying price points!
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Very informative. Thx Jared
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You can get those 3m lapping films to get the real fine grit like 2000 grit and what not
I would have figure that the Cold Steel would be better quality than it is. If it would work with my little pin knives it would be all that I need. I like my Lansky so I'll just keep using it. WorkSharp would be nice but it won't work with some of the small knives even with the adapter from what they have said.
Hey all - Probably no big revelation here, but you can achieve this same sharpening movement pretty easily by laying the worksharp PA on it's back and propping it up with something so it's level.
I've been curious about how well that Cold Steel sharpening system works. Thanks!
I made a few mods to a basic worksharp and use the dmt 4 inch diamonds with it. Works awesome.
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I just sold my 5 piece lansky system and It was my first good sharpener but I got another system and I didn't like setting up the rods all the time.
Thanks for the input Jared
Thanks I've hoped to this in action !!
Right on so we have the wrk Sharp which is the budget KME. Hear me out. Then we have the budget wicked edge with this cold steel. I definitely think it’s fr some one starting off or some just trying t get there stuff sharpened if they’re not in to free hand sharpening. I’ve not used a wicked edge before. Have you? I find it weird t sharpen in the air the way it does. So Jerad my question for you is kME or wicked edge? TSprof is the ultimate from what I’ve seen. I want one super bad, no Mclovin!
I have the original precision adjust, also bought the custom stone holder. I'm pretty happy with it but if i had a time machine I'd probably go back and buy a KME. If my system wears out I will get one.
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So helpful. Thanks
For the money, I like the Lansky or Gatco sets. But my current set is a franken-set. It's the Lansky angle guide and the stone holder from the old inexpensive DMT angle guide set. I wore out and lost the Lansky stones. I like the DMT stone holder cause you can just snap the 4 inch DMT pocket stones in it. The DMT angle guide is kind of junk, However It took about 14 yrs to wear out the course stone DMT stone, and they are cheap to replace.
When my income got better I got some Shapton water stones, cause I like to freehand, but I still use my franken-set with the extra course DMT to set the angle if the edge is completely rounded or I need to reprofile and know I'm keeping the exact same angle while I do it. Then go to the water stones. I'm a sucker for a nice mirror polish.
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I have the Work Sharp MK.2 and the Precision adjust And I love them especially the precision adjust. But this one looks okay
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Hard pass. Hopefully they make an upgraded version after feedback from tone masses ✌️
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I can see this might have an advantage over the Work Sharp in not requiring a 3rd party set of guards to reinforce the sharpening position, and not having the problem of the arm holding the abrasives falling out because it's just a magnet. I have to hold mine with one hand and sharpen with the other.
Seriously, it's worth paying a few bucks to get a set with a 3D printed (or make yourself if so equipped) reinforcement and angle guides. It makes the system perform much better I think. Though it does make you pop the block in and out over and over again, so that's annoying.
Nothing's perfect.
I'm seriously considering I'm going to have to get an Apex Edge Pro or something like it to really get a better sharpening system.
I don't own one but with all the research I've done it seems to be for $200 the KME is the best for the money
@@zbaird3 The only thing "wrong" with the KME is its' still a system that clamps the blade, which is why I think a fixed angle system that doesn't have that problem is really the meaningful upgrade. The KME does look to be better made and I might have got it in retrospect, but I don't think it's better than what I already have to justify getting it, if that makes sense.
Wow a day after i comment that you should have used the wicked edge lol!
Im a CS fan but i can spot a knockoff when i see one! LOL
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Thanks J Bone! Great option
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I've been using my Lanksy sharpeners for years and love them. Easy to use and I can get the edges just how I like them. As you say there are heaps of options available. Is it the 'best' system - no idea 🤷. The 'best' system to me is the one that you own and master the use of to get good results. Haven't bought a full system for a while but the the rods and stuff are fairly cheap to replace. Definitely not a fan of flex - great way to get a wavy edge 🤮. Sharp blades all.
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Wicked Edge system all the way
Do you prefer old school stones? Or the sharpening machines?
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I find the Lansky is a bit limited sometimes. You can only go as low as 17 degrees. Also small or narrow blades are difficult to get clamped down and sharpen without hitting the clamp with the stone. Even if some fixed angle systems are expensive, they will pay for themselves quickly, especially if you do a lot of sharpening.
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I offer a 1x6" edge pro sized stones and a 1x4" kme sized stone adapter for this
Beard looks good brother!
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I’m guessing Wicked Edge has a patent on stones on both sides. Otherwise, makes no sense to work only one side at a time and flip. Could clearly have the arm and stone on both sides.
One advantage of doing one side at a time is you need half the number of abrasives compared to a two-sided system, so the initial cost would be lower for the same assortment of grits. I agree with the comment above that the full removal of the screw to rotate is a big negative, but after seeing the flex of the blade holder it became a moot point.
I really like some designs from Italian knifemaker (Viper/Lionsteel/MKM). Have they improved their M390 heat treat? I'm on the fence
I think the work sharp works better but only because I have one.
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Not being able to quickly flip the clamp seems like such a major design fail. Most people finish each stone alternating passes on each side of the blade a few times. I feel like I’m constantly flipping on my KME to make sure the bevel is equal on both sides. Having to unscrew and rescrew would drive me crazy
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Just a little help here , could you hold the box up and hold it still for a few seconds so that I don’t have to be some kind of magician to freeze frame it to read the box , honestly you are moving it around to fast to get a good shot at it , at least on my phone
i linked the item in the description, you can click on it and get any information you need
The issue with the screw to flip sides just cancels the whole sharpener for me.
Enjoy your content Jerad. BTW my son's name is Jared.
I like when you review guided systems. Ive had the KME
for a few years now. I'm getting ready to drop on a TSP
but sure which one. I want to do larger heavier kitchen
and outdoor knives that my KME simply cant handle.
I'm thinking about the KO3 but I ask myself do I really
need it or will the Kadet Pro suffice? Thanks for the
content Jerad.
The k03 might be the way to go, I personally like the kadet pro with additional clamps they sell for the system which gives you the ability to do small and large knives, as far as the k03 goes I'm not sure how well it works for smaller knives, they might have clamps that make it work I'm not sure
@@NeevesKnives Thanks for the response Jerad. My KME will cover the smaller knives.
I need to research a little. Maybe the Kadet Pro will cover my larger heavier knife needs.
@John Doe it will for sure, I have a full video on the tsprof kadet and kadet pro, and as I said there's attachment clamps you can get as well
@@NeevesKnives Yes sir, watched them both. probably several times. 😁
You hadn't even opened it yet and I'm like, "not"
What's best this one or the Lansky system
Looks like a wicked edge knock off.
So its like half a wicked edge but terrible 🤦🏼♀️
Ill stick with my ws precision 😅
Been waiting for a review on this!
I'm wondering if some of the universal stone holders on gritomatic would work with it.
Or maybe the Work Sharp Precision adjust stone holder
At that point you might aswell just get the parts and go with the precision adjust anyway since its faster to swap
@Charlie Baker I agree, the Work Sharp base model is also almost half the price of the comd steel system. I was just saying I wonder if it would work or not since he mentioned after-market parts.
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If you’re on a budget, just practice freehand on cheap sharpening stones. You’ll learn a lot about the steel that way too.
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Question mr. Neeves, I wanted to ask this when you recommended the TSPROF. So, do I need one of these if I have a grinder wheel like the Tormek? I have a 10” Wen wet/dry sharpening system off Amazon, which I didn’t know was a Tormek knockoff when I bought it 3 years ago. I bought it to sharpen garden implements like a hoe, axes, shovels, machetes. I wasn’t into knives back then.
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i would say yes, a grinding wheel is great for large things like lawn mower blades, machete etc.. but a fixed angled system with diamond stones gives you a proper edge that lasts a lot longer than edges done on belts or wheels.
Nice beard bro
I just recently bought the worksharp precision adjust pro for the same price as this cold steel. And saw the base model at Bridgeport equipment for $40. So I don’t see any value in this sharpener.
if you watch to the end i explain that i recommend the ws over this
Just bought a worksharp kit, might have to return and buy this lol
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@@NeevesKnives yeah after I continued to watch your video I think I'll stick with the work sharp. I have the full kit with all 3 of the tri stones. I've only used it once to sharpen my kizer original XL. I'm not very experienced with sharpening. It looked like it just needed some touching up because I've been using it for light-medium work (cutting open cardboard boxes etc.) Idk what the angle was on the previous bevel, but I put a 20° edge on there and I started with the 600 > 900 > ceramic > strop and it didn't seem to get screeming hair shaving razor sharp as I hoped lol. I may just have to start at a lower grit and reshape the bevel?? I've tried watching videos but nothing has helped. I may just need more practice.
@@poseidons_636 practice makes perfect, also you need to get around a 200/300 grit to really reprofile the edge right.
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The clamp should snap into place after flipping, the need to unscrew and re-screw alone is enough to drop this item from consideration. Plus $114 is NOT budget-friendly.
hey jared, what angle and grit do you put on your benchmade bugout?
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Can you show regular people how to sharpen a knife please
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This thing is nearly twice the price of the base work sharp?
thats why i rec the work sharp and you can get attachments
I'll be giving the CS sharpener a hard pass. The worksharp system is much more stable and versatile, especially with the aftermarket accessories such as the clamp stabilizer, table clamp and stone holder (I have the 4"-6" model off of Etsy)so you can use whatever stones you want. For $150.00 the CS system is just too limited and jankety from what I've seen.
poor mans wicked edge.
Oof. Def not for me. I would much rather spend more for a much, much better design. Thanks for the review.
Messing with screws each time you want to flip the blade is a no go for me, sounds annoying
Seems slow as shit to swap and has the same issues as the worksharp precision but none of the aftermarket support parts to fix the issues. Shouldve made it a threw pin like a weight stack to hold the base
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Use 2 different masuta whetstone, diamond steel, my shits sharp.
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I don't see the point of this system. Workshop is a much better system and much cheaper at $50 for the base or $110 or so for the upgraded kit which is the same as this costs. At more money you have better systems too. So this isn't the cheapest option or the best option. So what's the point? It's wobbly, a pain to switch sides(reason wicked edge works is a stone on each side) and it's pricey for what you get.
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Every male is already used to "that" motion
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ANY flex is a fail when it comes to sharpeners.
You don't want the edge you're sharpening to move AT ALL.
Agreed, if you hold the bottom and use light pressure you can make it work.
To many issues. I will stick to hand sharpening.
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One of these days you gonna be giving a video with one of your fingers missing because you get your shit so goddamn sharp boy!
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Your not going to use it anyway.
She should be doing the review....
So true
So basically thus is a pass
YEAH
ROFL I'm an idiot, I actually looked at my phone when I read it's your phone Jesus!
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that’s a rip off of the wicked edge 💯
No thanks. The old Lansky system I've had for years is a much better choice.
Good to see the criticism. Seems like junk. Just free hand. If you're really interested, just freehand. Luv ur vids bro!
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I love my work sharp precision adjust but I wish it was stiffer and the stones lasted longer.
I feel the same. However if you get a brace for the clamp and an aftermarket stone holder to use other stones it makes a huge difference. I haven't personally tried the stone mod yet but I have a brace and it makes a huge difference.
This sharpener costs 2x"s the price of a work sharp.whay do you tell people go buy it ????
That's crazy, imo.
The work sharp is an ok sharpener but imo not worth the price .the one I bought was junk and off when flipping the knife over by at least 1 degree. It went in the trash once I got my hapstone RS . I'll neverook back.