why you hate your recorded voice (and how to fix it)
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
- This video is about how music producers, vocalists, and musicians can not hate their recorded singing voice.
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My issue is I typically like my voice recorded on a voice memo app. Sometimes I hear my speaking voice in a video and really really like my tone and clarity and then sometimes I hear it and my articulations worse and im more nasally. Recordings always sound so much more off tempo and attitude than just the voice memo lol
I understand the whole thing about familiarity, but it seriously seems like there's something wrong with my voice. It's too high pitched by default, and my pitch control in general is pretty bad. Your voice isn't perfect, but it does sound normal. It kind of reminds me of Ezra Miller. But my voice, it's just awful
After 11 minute of your video I hate your voice......🤣😆
I really like my voice, it's everyone else that doesn't!
I love this comment hahah
Yeah I don't hate my voice either
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When I was in high school, I hated the way my voice sounded in recordings. I dealt with it in a different way: I started taking voice lessons, eventually getting a degree in vocal performance. Your solution might be simpler, but I don't regret having taken my approach.
That’s also a fantastic approach too!
Nothing like a $50k degree to solve for vocal insecurity. Nah just kidding man that’s great.
Well, when you put it that way,@@Trads_Tabs, it does seem kind of ridiculous. Fortunately, I got an engineering degree at the same time, for which I was on scholarship, so neither the overall cost nor the incremental cost for the music degree was that bad.
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I'll start this off by saying im a hater i know, so don't take this to poorly but not a single soul asked.
“I don’t just hate it. I love it. “I felt that
I felt that too. I’m proud of myself for feelin that hah
@@AndrewBarrMusic
you got woosohed by yourself
I heard that and said, wait…what? Lmao
When I sing I sound like someone having a very difficult and complicated shit.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
me rn
So funny!
Why do you record yourself on the pot? 😂😂
@@yanasitta Bathrooms have very lively acoustics???🤣
the familiarity thing also applies to photos. often people dont think they look good in photos, because no ones face is perfectly symmetrical, and we are WAY more used to seeing a reflection (and therefore inversion left to right) of our face. its just off enough to look 'wrong'.
LOVE this! You’re so right
@@AndrewBarrMusicwedding photographers sometimes make reversed proofs of wedding photos to get more orders from the bride because of this.
I've heard this before but it doesn't sound convincing. That would mean you could just flip the photo and get the "familiar/good" look. Which isn't really the case. I think lens distortion could be what's actually making it look off.
@@alterego157 it is a risky thing for sure, but it was always surprising how often I came across this during my time as a wedding videographer back in the 80s. The photographers would take photos at the ceremony, then rush off, develop them, and print up a range of proofs to show at the reception. The photos of just the bride, before the ceremony, were often reversed to get more orders (no tell-tale ring on wrong hand before the ceremony). Bride and Groom, and group shots were printed correctly.
Not the most ethical of practices for sure, but one that definitely went on back then.
I agree that lens distortion etc. play a big part too. But in the chaos of a wedding the more obvious reversal of features is probably has a bigger impact on decisions.
Or I'm just ugly. 😢
I used to hate how my voice sounded, but then I had to go through the processes of singing on stage with in-ear monitors, editing a lot of videos, and recording multiple songs. Honestly, it’s just the lack of familiarity, but it comes with time.
That's right, the lack of familiarity is making you sound bad to you.
Mine scares me it's weird to hear myself I have never heard anyone that's sounds like me.
I sound so good singing . Then I record myself on my phone, and delete it instantly after hearing it.
Absolutely amazed by this trick! I tried your suggestion of aiming the microphone at my chest instead of directly speaking into it, and the change in resonance in my voice was astonishing. It's incredible how the microphone still captures every nuance of my voice perfectly. WOW, what a discovery! Also, allow me to thank you heartly. I'll definitely be sharing this video with my friends.
Don’t you love it when things work as advertised? 🤘😎
I Will try!
I remember hating my voice a few years back starting, so I learned mixing to alleviate it, now I like my voice it took years and getting comfortable with its natural talents to realize what makes it unique and it makes it refreshing to work on songs nowadays cause it’s more about what tone and emotion more so than “does my voice sound good to me”
Exactly! What emotion are your vocals portraying! Love it
Will have to try this and start recording more. I've often been told I sang well, but everytime I recorded myself I just deleted it almost right away because I did not like what I heard
a tip if you are „scared to open the daw“: let it open automatically when you turn on the pc. this way, since it's already open, i've been working on my tracks at least a little bit every day.
I fricken love this
sick, thanks for the tip
i would burn that device if i were you 😭😭
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR being so vulnerable and authentic and relating to the struggles of not liking your own voice and what it takes to get over that!! INSTANT SUBSCRIBE
i really like these raw honest videos, really great!
The way he talked about how the daw can feel super overwhelming I love how he explained that perfectly in a way that I honestly feel now and unless I push myself to open it and to record myself I’ll find myself not wanting to do that and I love how he says to get familiar with it because that’s the reason why I’m posting my videos now even though they aren’t the best recorded content or quality because I know with time I will improve and I want others to see that to and I want to show how I trying to grow my confidence in myself and in my own voice that doesn’t sound anything like I thought it would haha
Thanks a lot Andrew!!! This is a subject that is missing in CZcams and you address it perfect!!!
Thank you!!!!
Love that you've started posting on your personal channel bro
Explained with excellence. Thank you
Thanks for sharing your experience! It’s nice to know there are others out there who record tons of stuff as a form of practice and experimentation. I have steered away from vocals entirely for the past several years because no matter what I tried with singing styles, natural and/or digital affectation or EQ and mixing, it always just felt like the weak link in the music I was making. It’s pretty inspiring to know lots of people struggle with the same thing and most of that doubt is just the unfamiliarity and not purely being born with a trash voice lol. I’m gonna try some vocals again soon now thanks to this video!
So insightful at such a young age... Thank you, Andrew!
Been struggling with this for a while now and this was extremely helpful. Thanks Andrew 🐐
Glad this helped you!!!!!
thank you for your time man! and all the useful information. Its so helpful for me so thank you!
THANK YOU for this video 🙏 There were so many things you said that were soo relatable
I’m glad you enjoyed it!!
This was interesting…
I’ve avoided this video for a while because of the title. I thought “stupid clickbait”, but after watching 30 seconds my face turned into a smile. And I subscribed after another 30 seconds.
I used to work as a commercial producer before I got burned out and we recorded a lot of people that had good voices but didn’t like how they sounded.
You really have a good way of describing things! 👍
(For the ones just started recording other people: Don’t stress. Be a friend. Listen.)
Thanks friend! I appreciate the kind words. In another video I talked about people first and art second. I love the “don’t stress. Be a friend. Listen.” Love your insight! Thanks again
Thank you CZcams recommendations… this is some serious wisdom and it seems self evident now that you lay it out!
Thank you! I appreciate your comment. Means a lot
I entirely agree with this! For years, I practiced and tried to improve my singing sound. I did many (personal!) recordings and grew over the years. I even like my voice now. But to my astonishment: if I listen back to my old recordings, I now also like my voice that I had back then. It was mind-boggling to me, but this explanation makes a lot of sense 🙂
I love that! I’ve noticed the same with myself
I've never seen your main channel but this raw style of content is personable and easy to watch. Tutorials in general tend to be loud, fast paced, and gimmicky which are draining to watch when half of the time creative blocks just need to be understood mentally and personally rather than with more plugins or equipment. Awesome channel.
Thank you! I kinda felt like the main channel wasn’t everything I wanted to do. I wanted to start a conversation. I still think it’s super valuable. But I started this channel as a way to start a conversation and help in a less flashy way without confusing the other subscribers who subscribed for that type of content 😂
Wait what’s ur main channel?
Really helpful and insightful video, Andrew. Thanks for posting!
Thank you for watching!
Loved this video completely man, you're so kind to put this into words so clearly, hope your channel grows big asf 🔥
Thank you!
Stumbled upon you bro. Great energy, authentic, keep it up!
Thanks for being here! I appreciate your comment
love this. this is so welcoming to see, keep it going!
Life-changing info! Tons of thanks! ❤
Thank you!!!
I so needed to hear your thoughts on this. Thank you!😀
Thank you!!
I can relate to your journey, starting out with a daunting DAW (for me it was Sonar), giving yourself exposure therapy to your own recorded voice and learning to accept it. Amazing tip about the chest-facing hovering condenser mic!
This is the best explanation video I have seen on this topic. Also I love your tips, they make so much sense! I will definitely be trying this👍
Thank you!
Been struggling with this for a while now and this was extremely helpful. Thanks Andrew
Thank YOU!
The thing about daws, i really needed to hear that. I'm encouraged to try again, thank you Andrew.
Thank you, bro. Keep going. You cannot lose if you do not quit!
@@AndrewBarrMusic mixing rn, it’s not even as bad as I thought it’d be lol
@@VesselForHonor LETS GOOOOOOOO
Dude this video helped a lot! Your articulation was perfect!
Thank you! I’m glad it helped!
I figured this out myself too when i started saving gaming clips and eventually uploading them. Im used to it now to the point where i actually upload and talk to my viewers but my friends arent as comfortable with it.
I have been through this same explanation with them many times that we all hear our own voice in a different way to everyone else because our skulls and voice box are between our voice and our ears.
I Learned a lot from you about microphone positioning ill be making adjustments from that thankyou 👍
great information, and loving this channel so far! Thank you bro
Thank you!!
Great content! I'm definitely trying this mic tip for sure. I just subscribed, thanks a lot!!
Thank you for watching! Glad I could help
Thank you for such a great video! 🥳 I will put these in use in my videos!
great video, i can relate. i make a lot of songs, a lot. i've learned to like my own voice, also noticing i sound better w/ certain approaches and certain keys
This is actually really solid advice. Keep up the good work bruv
Thank you so much!
This brings up a great point, it's really important to keep practicing, don't take prolonged breaks if you can help it. I was becoming very proficient in FL Studio but due to the pandemic I took a long break, and now when I open up my DAW I get completely overwhelmed. I feel like I've started over.
Keep practicing! It gets better, I promise!
Thank you very much. Some great valuable advices and tips here!
Thank you so much!
Wow this resonated so much with me - especially when you spoke about Logic. I record all my demos using GarageBand on my phone and can never get the same results in Logic on my Mac with a nice mic, simply due to being intimidated by the process! Also great tip on the mic placement. I will definitely give that a try. Thanks so much for being so open and sharing your knowledge so generously. Best wishes!
Thank you so much!
Thank you for this video!! People have always complimented my singing voice, but anytime i hear a recording i can't possibly understand why lol. My husband and i have done the RPM challenges the last two years and I've gotten a little more comfortable with the sound of my voice. I'm still working on "loving it" and for that it's February we will be doing our third RPM album, so hopefully this will help me love it more!!
What is this rpm challenge?
I've been making music for 12 years now and I just finally got to the point where I like my voice. Exposure therapy & interest in figuring out how to get to that desired sound took so long but was worth it. It also has a lot to do with just accepting that you wont hear yourself the same as others and to also think that no one feels or has that miniscule outlook on you that YOU have on yourself as well. I finally released my first project last month where I feel genuinely comfortable with sharing and just want to let y'all know you will get to the point. Cheers to those in the thick of it right now. Please continue making art.
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LOL I was fittingly like #420. Thanks for this. I've dabbled in music for 30+ years and you just described some of my biggest issues and hang-ups. Hearing it out loud, and someone else saying it is motiational. Thank you for this.
Thank you for your comment! I always appreciate the supporting words! I’ll glad I could motivate you!
super dope advice! golden i love it
REALLY NEEDED THIS. I've been feeling this so long. The feeling that my voice sounds pretty good while I'm recording, but kinda different after the processing tho I'm doing everything correctly. Thanks.. Subscribed.
I can't wait to try the mic positioning. Thanks man
You are so right about this cause that is exactly what I feel like.
Thank you so much for these tips! Imma try this!
DO IT!!!!!!
I really appreciated this advice. I thought that having an awful sounding voice was the end of the story. It's given me fresh hope.
It’s never the end of the story! Keep making music!
Thank You!! I am definitely afraid of hearing myself and learning all of the technology. I like your tip to just record everyday and get used to it. Very helpful.
I’m glad this helped you!!
Thank you, that was eye opening. I just stumbled across your video, and it just made me remember when I was young, we started a band with friends for fun. I did quit in the moment I first heard myself on record. 😂
HAHAHA we’ve all been there. It’s such a “WHAT…. Who is that?!” Moment haha
Awesome stuff man, thank you for the trick w the microphone.
Thank you for watching!
bro it's just that when I record my voice ppl are like "omg its so good" then when I hear it on that recording I sound like I'm trying too hard or like a dying cow 😭
🤘💀 “dying cow” SENT me hahahahahahaha
Me too 😂
exactly the same and then I cry 😭
Thanks fam. much love.
Thanks 👍🏼 great vid gonna try your techniques out today
awesome! Come back and tell me how they work for you!
this is such a good video! i am a newer producer making my own music and definitely get a little aggravated trying to make my vocals sound good. i’ll have to try out the mic set up you suggested. thank you!
Tell me how it works for you!
Great share! I've been thinking i can sing and I record myself a lot for a class I'm in. Then i doubt myself until i get to mixing. These tips you shared are going to help. Ive notheard of a saturator before. Hmmmm.... Thank you!
Ooooooooo you’re in for a wonderful treat with saturation!
Thanks for the great advice on getting to a point where you aren't disturbed by the way your voice sounds on a recording. For me it isn't just when recording vocals, but even more when I am recording voice over for radio. I do a radio show and it makes me cringe every time I listen to myself speak to the point where I do not say much anymore, so I am hoping this will help with the radio voice over work as well. I also have to start doing regular videos for social media soon for PR, so I am hoping it helps with that, and then I just have to somehow not be disturbed watching myself on the video because I really do not like it currently. Thanks again, I am going to start recording my voice on my phone and playing it back, and then do it daily, hopefully it becomes familiar fairly quicky.
100000 percent true.... Totally happened to me... Lately I had the mic installed up n I loooooove....
tons of great information in here! thanks buddy!
Thank you!
i feel you on the amount of music recorded lol i have alittle under 500 online from over the years, but easily 4-5k songs on my harddrive (over the span of about 15 years) whether they be cuts from projects, or stuff i started and only got 1 verse or something. It helps alot to record that much. You get better, you can explore more styles, etc
I love the, aiming the mic toward your chest and neck, tip. Brilliant. Now I understand (probably) why Lemmy from Motorhead always had his mic set exactly this way! \,,/
thanks for this - - - i've started recording again after 15 years, and all the new stuff is really different - i just bought a condenser microphone, so that's helpful.
The world needs more people who don't mind explaining stuff no one talks about, for different reasons. Thank you. I've hated my voice 90% my life.
Thanks for the insight!
Thanks for watching!
You speak the truth Andrew, you speak the truth
this is so true, tysm I wanna try this now every day but I am still so bad at writing and recording because it's so overwhelming 😭
loved every second of this
I'm so glad!
great advice on that mic placement 🙏🏾
I recorded a voice over for a product i was selling. I sent it to my sister and she was like "wow this sounds like a TV commercial"
Meanwhile the whole time I was hating the voice over and taught it was the worse voice in the history of mankind.
Haha for real. We have that tendency to hate the sound of our own voice. Super weird
Because we all know if you want an honest opinion, you go to family
@@silkroad1201 typically sisters won't lie to you. usually they're more honest than friends or other close family bc they dgaf about your feelings lol
I’m enjoying this channel a lot.
Thank you! I am too. It’s nice to cut back on the flashy editing and just talk life and music
Thank you, I enjoyed this video
Great advice. I learned years ago why my voice sounds so much different when I record it vs what I think it sounds like. And yes it was shocking and I hated it at first. One of the things that always amazed me was my wife would always compliment how great I sounded singing. That she envied my voice. I was like are you kidding me I sound awful! LOL. But the more I recorded and heard my actual voice as other hear it the more I liked it. Appreciate the great recording tips you gave. I”m probably going to pickup a condenser mike in the future now that I understand that. :)
thank you a lot, i never thought that the main reason was bc i wasnt familiar with my voice
This was very interesting to me since I started learning to produce a couple of years ago but have never finished the vocals on any of my tracks because I can't stand how my recorded voice sounds to me. It's nice to know it's common and not just me. Thanks
It’s very common! Thanks for watching, and I’m glad it helped you!
Awww-you-know what I've been doing this entire time, I watched this video to end with OBS Output monitor on just test filters and stuff, and then it hit me just as you were talking about mic position; I had my RODE condenser mic sideways, like 30% horizontal and I've been going mad listening to my own voice. COMPLETLY ignored all promotional material, straight to D.I.Y agony, thank you for setting me straight no puns intended my guy!
Great video, and great sound quality btw. I do have one question, would you feel the same about the way you described positioning the mic (above chest) for (CZcams) voiceovers/narration as well? I upgraded from a AT2020 to a Rode NT1 5th gen recently, and the sibilance is off the charts (they both are for me); though I prefer the Rode mic and feel that I'm a lot closer to where I want to be.
I also appreciate what you're saying about recording daily, as well as your talking about your struggles over the years.
Yes! It’s a technique that works sometimes. Not all the time. Test it out and see but I think it’s 100% worth trying out!
really good explanation
This so me, I hate my own voice than my fav singers. But now I want to like my own voice ☺️
Thanks for the tip btw !! That's cool
I come from a family of musicians and grew up singing, have been taking many lessons over the years, get a lot of positive feedback and honestly love my voice. I also put in soooo many hours practising over the years, so I'm proud of what I can do with it. Recently I started to get into songwriting and now recording. I never really heard my voice on recordings except for shitty phone recordings and I always thought that I only hated those because they were bad quality. Now I've recorded a few takes with proper equipment and I just HATE how I sound so much.
I'm only 2,5 min into your video but I totally relate to the uncanny valley feeling you describe. Generally I love to sing stuff like Demi Lovato, Adele, Lady Gaga and in my head my voice sounds strong like theirs (not saying that I sound as good) but on the recordings my voice kind of sounds brighter in tone, higher than I hear it (like not actually higher but higher sounding if that makes sense). More like Birdie than Adele lol. Also I always get praised for singing very cleanly but you hear every tiny detail in a recording. It feels like viewing your voice through am microscope when you have only ever seen it from far away before. It’s nearly impossible to get the whole verse of a song in one take without making a tiny mistake that destroys everything and I’m a perfectionist, so it’ll take forever to get it just right.
Currently I’m very frustrated about this issue since I didn’t expect it to come up. I have a list of life goals and one of them is to bring out a song on Spotify one day. I really hope that I can overcome this feeling of hatred for my recorded voice, it’ll probably get better with time, so I'll just keep recording and practicing! Looking forward to watching the rest of your video!
Very Helpful Thank You!
Thank you!!!
Am i the only one who hears their own voice and thinks they sound like a five year old. I don't think I can ever be okay with sounding like that.
That happens to me too. When I speak I sound way more normal for someone my age but on a recording I sound like my 3 yeard old nephew lol I hate it
A higher pitched voice is not a bad thing. Kellin Quin is a beast of a vocalist and has a higher pitched voice!
@@AndrewBarrMusictrue, but there’s a big difference between talking and singing. Hitting a high note better than anyone is impressive. Sounding like a baby in your 20s feels humiliating (even if it’s not)
Has anybody ells said anything about how young you sound?
@@StompGojiStomp HAHAHA I do sound young HAHAHA
I have been using a superlux condenser mic for most of my recordings. It is a podcast mic with a table stand - very nice
Thanks Andrew!
Thank you, John!
Hate my lead vocals, but rather enjoy my harmonies. Gonna try this. THANKS!
I still don't like my voice, but in the analogue recording days, made it more similar to how I heard it, by using vari-speed and compression. Compression levelled out the volume variations and made it sound more 'pro', so it wasn't changing radically in level, and staying stable in the mix. Vari-speed increased the low frequency content, so it sounded more like how I hear it. To maintain pitch, I vari-sped up, recorded, then vari-sped down to the original speed & pitch.
I used to do the same for BVs, but changed the speed over 2 ranges and original to give 3 distinct tonal variations. Obviously you don't go to chipmunk/Barry White extremes unless deliberately. I recently found some 'formant' adjusters in pitch shifting plugins, which do a similar function, just leave the actual pitch at zero adjustment, unless you need that too.
In a DAW you need to use the change pitch *and* time for the entire project, or do that in a submixed version, and import the vocal tracks back into the original project.
Old dog new tricks.
I worked as a live engineer in the 80s and was prideful of my work. I was the preferred guy by some major artists.
That said, I discovered late in life that I was a good singer. Now that I know what it’s like to depend on someone else to adapt to the room and monitors as well as live, I know I wasn’t as good as I could have been.
I’ve never thought about the counter intuitive method of pointing the mic towards my chest. It really makes sense as to why besides being old, that I’m not able to pick up on lower register tones. This causes me to increase my vocal volume.
Bingo, thanks
Glad this helped you!
WHen I was younger I hated my voice. sounded horrible. But when I started recording my voice I tried something new. I gave my voice lower end. Mostly cos it sounded more like myself when I sang alone. I heard that bass. and when I recorded it. I heard minimal bass. so i brought up my lowers and it felt and sounded so much more comfortable with it. and yes keep listening to ones own voice.
I only hate my voice when listening through a janky phone recording. Condenser mics really limited the hatred of my own voice
Really interesting video! Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
i got over this by not thinking about it, and the more i heard myself sing the easier it was to translate through my voice how i was hearing it through my skull 😂 "exposure therapy" is going to be your best bet because not eveybody can afford ribbon mics and sometimes you have to work with what you have or you are working with someone elses set up and you have to work with what they have. that way you will be prepaired to preform under most situations
This 🙏 be prepared to perform on most situations. The pros win in any situation that is thrown at them. GREAT comment.
Thank u for the vid🫵🏼🔥
No, thank YOU for watching