Copper Pipe Electrolysis - A Water Main Killer!

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  • čas přidán 20. 08. 2024

Komentáře • 39

  • @majorhealey3194
    @majorhealey3194 Před 5 lety +4

    I heard the term Electrolysis Erosion for the first time this week. My home has a slab-leak and the cause of the copper pipe damage was suggested as electrolysis. I wanted to educate myself to the terminology and your video helped. Thanks for taking the time.

  • @neilkonitshek2906
    @neilkonitshek2906 Před měsícem

    Ran into this problem today. Burst my hot water pipe in my crawl space 😢.
    Plumber said the exact dame thing.

    • @balkanplumbing
      @balkanplumbing  Před měsícem

      Try installing dielectric fittings. They stop the flow of electricity.

    • @neilkonitshek2906
      @neilkonitshek2906 Před měsícem

      @@balkanplumbing until I do so, someone recommended wrapping electrical tape around the pipe to act as insulation between the pipe and metal hanger.
      Would that work until I did something more permanent?

    • @balkanplumbing
      @balkanplumbing  Před měsícem +1

      If the leak was caused by a dissimilar metal pipe hanger yes. Or change to a brass pipe hanger (similar metal).

    • @balkanplumbing
      @balkanplumbing  Před měsícem +1

      Not to get overly technical, but what you have might be galvanic corrosion. Different than electrolysis. Just a fun fact!

    • @neilkonitshek2906
      @neilkonitshek2906 Před měsícem

      @@balkanplumbing thank you!

  • @balkanplumbing
    @balkanplumbing  Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @lesliekendall2206
    @lesliekendall2206 Před 3 lety +1

    I just looked it up. Water is an electrolyte and the electrolysis corrosion comes into play when the copper pipe is in contact with another type of metal.

    • @balkanplumbing
      @balkanplumbing  Před 3 lety

      That is only one small instance causing underground copper pipe electrolysis, and is not the primary cause. What you refer to similar to galvanic corrosion; when copper or brass are connected to or touching galvanized pipe.

    • @lesliekendall2206
      @lesliekendall2206 Před 3 lety

      @@balkanplumbing So what is the cause?

    • @balkanplumbing
      @balkanplumbing  Před 3 lety

      @@lesliekendall2206 In the video description and the posts. From the video description "Copper pipe electrolysis often happens when stray direct current (DC) electricity causes the pipe to decompose. However, copper pipe electrolysis, also referred to as water line electrolysis, can also potentially be caused by many modern appliances. Appliances such as hairdryers , and other conditions as well, can cause water line leaks and pipe failure. Because copper is an excellent conductor of electricity..."

    • @lesliekendall2206
      @lesliekendall2206 Před 3 lety

      @@balkanplumbing DC current in a house? No electrical is DC. ???

    • @balkanplumbing
      @balkanplumbing  Před 3 lety +1

      @@lesliekendall2206 Public trains are DC. Hence why that is why they are the typical source. Modern solid state appliances are also being brought into the conversation lately.

  • @bigjulie3714
    @bigjulie3714 Před 4 lety +3

    could wiring a block of zinc to the pipe help to reduce the corrosion? Similar to the anode used to protect a marine motor?

    • @balkanplumbing
      @balkanplumbing  Před 4 lety +1

      I do know anodes are used to protect underground utilities from electrolysis, however I am not personally famliar with anodes. Very good point. Anodes are run alongside the line being protected, so the stray current attacks the anode, not the line. Again very nice point, thanks!

  • @johnwagons4707
    @johnwagons4707 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for for that, will the plastic sleeve do the job?

    • @balkanplumbing
      @balkanplumbing  Před 4 lety

      We use PVC at least 2 sizes larger than the size of the copper line. Example: 2" PVC around 1" or 1 1/4" K copper. 4" PVC around 1 1/2" or 2" copper.
      At the point of the connection to the tap (the swing) , we approved wrapping. That seems to work 100% . Any comments/questions, just reach out! BTW: Thanks for subscribing, it's appreciated.

  • @Eagle7834
    @Eagle7834 Před 2 lety +1

    Why not just attach an anode to it.

  • @scottwebber652
    @scottwebber652 Před 3 lety

    Glad I don’t have to deal with this problem. Sounds like ittl get someone sometime no matter what. Who ever keeps feeding this game is sol !!

  • @deequi77
    @deequi77 Před měsícem

    Hi, will copper pipes great to be as water pipe? Will it rust or corrode?

    • @balkanplumbing
      @balkanplumbing  Před měsícem +1

      Copper will not rust or corrode. Unless exposed to ash, electrolysis, or other detrimental condition. Copper can last for many decades and is perfectly safe as a conduit for drinking water.

    • @deequi77
      @deequi77 Před měsícem

      @@balkanplumbing thank you for the info. I was trying to order a copper pipe but hesistant

  • @yoheff988
    @yoheff988 Před měsícem

    Will vaseline protect copper pipes from the outside?

  • @tomagig2568
    @tomagig2568 Před rokem

    I have a question. My house is electrically grounded to my copper pipes. Is this a bad idea🥺

    • @balkanplumbing
      @balkanplumbing  Před rokem

      Not at all. That’s the typically accepted way to have a safe and secure secondary ground for a house. No Electricity goes through that ground unless there is an overload or malfunction on your primary ground.

    • @tomagig2568
      @tomagig2568 Před rokem

      @@balkanplumbing Thank you.😊

  • @grasshopper3085
    @grasshopper3085 Před 2 lety

    Does this happen only when the copper is in direct contact with the ground soil or could it happen also inside concrete/brick walls and floors?

    • @balkanplumbing
      @balkanplumbing  Před 2 lety

      Whenever there is stray electrical current attacking bare copper. So yes indeed, copper inside walls, concrete, etc., can be destroyed as well unless it is protected by some sort of insulation.

  • @575drv
    @575drv Před 5 lety +1

    I’m going to let you in on a little secret Dave. This Electrical charge your speaking of isn’t the issue, it’s actually the result. Copper, Gold, Aluminum, Bismuth are metals of low magnetic permeability. If water or a similar material flows through a cylindrical length of such a metal it creates a Dielectric field. When a Dielectric field is combined with our Earths natural Magnet field it creates Electricity. (Electricity equals Magnetism+Dielectricity.)(Magnetism+Dielectricity equals Electricity.) “One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.”

    • @balkanplumbing
      @balkanplumbing  Před 5 lety

      While you speak on a level above my understanding, and I appreciate the comment, what you describe does not result in the complete destruction of copper water lines in 2 to 6 months. That is what many property owners in NYC are experiencing right now. The complete destruction of an underground water line in such a short period of time is not usual, or the result of a natural occurrence. With that said, I found yogurt respire interesting and enlightening.

    • @lesliekendall2206
      @lesliekendall2206 Před 3 lety

      @@balkanplumbing So did you ever explain what IS causing the problem? I heard the word electrolysis but what's causing it?

    • @balkanplumbing
      @balkanplumbing  Před 3 lety

      @@lesliekendall2206 I explain it to a degree in the description underneath the video. And here are two links to a more detailed explanation: www.balkanplumbing.com/copper-pipe-electrolysis-copper-water-main-killer/ and www.balkanplumbing.com/copper-pipe-electrolysis-corrosion/. More and more copper pipe electrolysis is occurring in areas where it was never before occurring. In those instances it is still being investigated. In the past electrolysis would almost exclusively happen in the vicinity of elevated train tracks.

    • @lesliekendall2206
      @lesliekendall2206 Před 3 lety

      @@balkanplumbing And insulating the copper pipe always stops the electrolysis?

    • @balkanplumbing
      @balkanplumbing  Před 3 lety

      @@lesliekendall2206 If the source of the stray electrical current is underground, then yes. If it internal (from the house) then no. In almost all cases the causes of electrolysis is external (from stray underground electricity). To eliminate any chance it is from an internal issue, your plumbing can be tested to see if it carrying current. This can happen (very infrequent) if your primary electrical ground is defective, and the secondary ground on your water line is being used. It is only supposed to be a back-up, never the primary ground.