Buying an Iwata ECLIPSE TAKUMI? Watch this first!
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- čas přidán 4. 05. 2023
- Let's take a look at the Iwata Eclipse takumi The eclipse is a dual action, side feed, gravity assisted airbrush with a .35mm needle and nozzle. This makes it an excellent choice for a general use airbrush. Within this airbrush review I'll go over all the data I'd want to know before buying an airbrush including spray characteristics, air speed, and controllability.
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00:00 iwata eclipse takumi - Jak na to + styl
Really have to thank you. I just started airbrushing again after 20 years and I got back into it really quickly thanks to your tutorials and tests. I bought the hp-cs and the gsi creos 771 and couldnt be happier. Might get this one in the future.
Great choice with the hp-cs and the 771!! That is a perfect combo.
@@theartworkshop Yeah thanks to your and others reviews ! Got the 771 just two days ago. Man the feel on the trigger is awesome and the lines are so fine. Its a real joy ! For that money, its incredible. Is the micron even better, or is it comparable ?
@@theartworkshop Are there knock off versions of this being sold, as the cup spout connector seems to have very little weld under the chrome and jams in the side of the Takumi readily with no input force.
A very good review. This airbrush might be a little out of my league but still some useful information. I like the looks of the trigger. It looks very ergonomic.
Really cool and useful review.
Very informative presentation of this excellent Airbrush. I would like to know if I can use the needle limiter on the classic iwata eclipse hp-cs.
just checked it out for you and yes, the rear handle from the eclipse takumi fits perfectly on the hp-cs. The needle limiter works great!
Great review on the takumi Eclipse I do have one in my collection and yes h&s cup straight the way on the takumi as that cup is way to big and heavy for a side feed
Thanks man! i agree with you. The large cup is just too big. nice that it can be swapped out with the smaller one.
@@theartworkshop yes definitely 👍 I am really getting into the sotar at the moment brilliant brush 😀
please do a review on h&s grafo t1 .. i request you .. i really wana know your thoughts on its trigger mechanism
also can you please tell us how the side feed system works on custom micron but not the takumi , the sb one .. is that system also gravity side feed like takumi or trn2 or siphon side feed?
Works great for me.. 👍😎
Kool product review, I use IWATA siphon feed airbrushes and I’ve been airbrushing since the mid 80’s. My IWATA airbrush of choice is the IWATA HP-BC and HP-BCS ( Eclipse). Though I’ve owned a couple of IWATA gravity fed air brushes I’ve rarely used them but I noticed the unique trigger design on the IWATA Takumi and did my research and found that the Eclipse Takumi trigger also works with the IWATA eclipse HP-BCS and enhances both the comfort and trigger control of the airbrush. I recently purchased an IWATA eclipse HP-BCS 6 pack and just a few days ago I decided to purchase 6 IWATA Takumi Eclipse triggers to replace the standard OEM trigger found on the IWATA eclipse HP-BCS. This is not what I call a cheap modification as the Takumi trigger alone retails for $31.50 each but I was able to find them discounted online :
Iwata Replacement Part I-612-4 Main Lever for $21.38 each but I believe the benefits of the added IWATA Takumi trigger for me personally out weigh the cost, and it’s possible that you will too.Give the IWATA Eclipse Takumi trigger a try, you won’t be disappointed.🏆
that is awesome man! I agree with you that this new trigger is much more comfortable and has better grip. I just wish iwata's prices were better though, bc $32 for a trigger seems too high for me.
@@theartworkshop I wish IWATA showed the siphon feed design more attention in their line up. They and most airbrush brands use to years ago…when textile illustration/design was immensely popular. I guess not so much today though? 😳🤔
I wonder if the Eclipse hp-cs and the Eclipse Takumi cutaway handle case are interchangeable!!~
How does it compare to the older discontinued Eclipse HP-SBS side feed? Asking because I have a line on a gently used older Eclipse side feed at a decent price.
I got this airbrush too, it’s basically a variant of hp-cs (side-fed, shorter and paint stop etc) and hence it inherits all the merit of hp-cs such as the versatility to different paints. One complaint is that paint would find its way to the cup thread every time. And the red o-ring on the cup thread may not be solvent-resistant. I’ve ordered several teflon rings and will try replace the original o-ring once they arrive.
I've never noticed this, but I also never remove the cup from it's base. I'll have to take a closer look at the cup on my micron
@@theartworkshop it happens on my micron all the time
You might order the cup op the hp-sb and use that one.. but you’ll have to clean that one too.. paint has to be removed from the plastic washer on the bottom..
Just a follow-up, I ended up getting a ptfe gasket and place it in the cup base instead of the cup (like what H&S infinity does). In this way the paint will be stopped before it reaches the cup thread.
Another CZcamsr mentioned the imbalance issue of the Takumi, it can be slightly improved by replacing with the H&S 5 ml cup. The 5ml cups from Iwata and H&S look almost identical but the one from H&S is noticeably lighter. There is a 5 ml plastic cup in the market which is much lighter but you’ll have to file it's button a little bit so that it can fit in together with the additional ptfe gasket.
@@8allan463 I use a H&S 2mil cup and sometimes 5mil cup with my cm takumi since day one ( never used the cup that came with it) and still get a small amount of paint in the threads, especially with over reduced paints. also as a side note the cups from the neo fit the takumi.
You can buy the takumi trigger for all your iwata HP-CS and iwata has its own quick adapter
Where can I find the takumi trigger?
I don’t think so, Takumi uses a different trigger system - at least on the micron Takumi
Thanks for another great review Mark. Do you notice a difference in the trigger response between the top feed micron and the takumi micron?
thanks Ryan! honestly, I can't feel any difference between the trigger responses. Both microns feel exactly the same to me and they're both excellent.
@@theartworkshopI’m thinking of upgrading and have heard amazing things about the Takumi but I really like the top feeders. I wish there was somewhere to test drive an airbrush. You’re the next best thing! Thanks again.
I created this design in 2016 and presented it. Only to iwata. They said they were not interested. I cut up a regular eclipse hp-sbs and glued it back together and it sprayed perfect. The idea was to be able to touch the surface while painting. If you needed to. I even posted videos on youtube showing how it worked .
Has anyone ever tried to use a siphon fed jar with this airbrush, just wondering if it would work and maybe have the best of both worlds siphon and gravity fed.
Cups are the same... Iwatta bought H and S a couple of years ago.
Although H and S are still run as a separate company.
yeah, it seemed that way to me. Thank you Ken!
New to the airbrush world here. Bought a couple cheap knockoffs and have been noodling around with them. My question is are the needle and guides interchangeable on this model and what sizes would you recommend having around?
Thanks for the review, I’ve decided on getting a side feed due to my hand position.
Smart move! It's a good idea to test out some cheap airbrushes before getting a good one. Iwata airbrushes aren't meant to have interchangeable nozzles and needles. You can buy separate ones and get them to fit, but they weren't designed for this. I would just get a normal airbrush like this Iwata with a .35 and just stick with that. Surprising how versatile a .35 airbrush is.
Any chance the trigger on the Takumi Eclipse would fit the Eclipse HP-SBS? The one thing I don't like about the SBS is the round top trigger.
I believe it will fit just fine, but I don't have that airbrush so can't test it.
Can we put the rear handle from that eclipse takumi to the eclipse hp-cs? I love the cutout with the limiter but it’s not available as an optional accessory for the hp-cs. They only have either the cutout or the limiter rear handle. And while you’re at it, does takumi’s trigger trigger on hp-cs? I might transform the hp-cs 🤨
Yes, the rear handle and trigger from the eclipse takumi both work great on the hp-cs
Iwata doesn't care if you use a Harder & Steenbeck cup on a Iwata airbrush. Iwata does Own Harder & Steenbeck. They bought them back in 2017!
If you add a drop of paint/water in the little takumi cup, does it flow into the body of the airbrush or does it stay in the cup by some sort of seal?
Maybe an odd question to you, but valuable to me
I know this is an old question but the answer is that it stays in the cup until you pull back the trigger. Not because of a seal but because there is air in the tube and the paint cannot displace it. Perhaps if you shake it around it would go into the body but not naturally. Hope this helps!
This is from my experience with Micron Takumi and not the Eclipse Takumi so I could possibly be wrong here.
@@CorruptName1 very helpfull thank you! I paint miniatures and often work with very little paint in between mixes. having it stay in the cup more or less would be an asset
Comment on your other videos today - would you go with this or the regular eclipse? The difference in budget is not a big decision maker for me. Thanks in advance!
I love them both, but actually prefer the regular eclipse (HP-CS). You can't go wrong with either
@@theartworkshop if I sourced a lever from the takumi would it be compatible with the regular eclipse? Thanks in advance!
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Hi, i was just wondering, does the Eclipse takumi trigger fit in the Eclipse Hp CS? Because i was thinking of upgrading the trigger on it. Thanks
just checked it for you- it fits perfectly! Very comfortable too
Thanks very much for checking for me, that's good news. I'll order one now. Keep up the great content!@@theartworkshop
could we put trigger of Takumi on HP-CS ?
yes, it fits very well
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Hi there. Could I ask a question that I’m getting mixed feedback from various CZcams posting on the danger of using enamel paints in model. I’m about to buy an airbrush preferably a good one like the eclipse but certain sources give the impression that enamel paints and the thinners that you use to clean the airbrush afterwards eventually destroy the seals which are very expensive apparently to repair/replace. I’d prefer to get the Iwata brand. Be grateful if anyone who knows including the creator of this excellent site could reply. Thanks ahead for any feedback 👍
I have not heard of enamel thinners causing problems to your seals.
Yes, solvents and enamel thinners will damage rubber seals and o-rings. The won't affect any PTFE (teflon) ones those since those are solvent proof. I used to use enamels all the time, but found modern acrylics to be much better (stronger too) for what I do.
@@theartworkshop Thank you. Been doing some more research. Think I’m good get the Harder and Steinbeck infinity with the Teflon seals.
@@jimquail587 that is an excellent airbrush. Yes, the infinity is all teflon and solvent proof. Can't ever go wrong with H&S
my cup became damaged and won't mount to the post. Now I have to send it in for repairs. Not so durable.
really? sorry to hear that! I was worried about that with my micron takumi but it's been great for the last 2 years. Is the damage on the airbrush body or the cup?