Van Gogh watercolor box set ~ GOOD or BAD?
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- Van Gogh watercolorbox set~ GOOD or BAD?
Let's take a look at the most requested watercolor set and compare it with my favorite. Colors used are Van Gogh Schmincke Horadam Aquarell. Nothing much to say but watch. Support is all i want from you guys so please LIKE SUBSCRIBE COMMENT & SHARE. Love you all🤗🥰
Material used:
1. Van Gogh Watercolor set
2. Arches 300gsm cp watercolor paper
3. Prinston Heritage series round-8
4. Schminche Horadam Aquarell Watercolor whiskey box
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I've been using them for years. I think that most of the artists should invest in good quality paper instead of high quality grade paints 4x more expensive, that is the key!
Well said!
Does fill with tube paints have practical differences from standard pans?
It goes: Quality paper first, then investing in a good brush, and after that you can paint with kids paint for all you care.
I don't know how true that is but it's what my workmate says to beginners. He's a painter.
Agreed. Paper is the most important factor in watercoloring.
@@lucasdias178 if you are painting larger scale like A3+, tubes are more convenient because bigger brushes are too big for half pans!
I like this review, it's just spot on and no bla bla bla talk.
Thanks 😊
I’m a watercolor teacher. I used to recommend Cotman to my students- I wanted them to use paint that was both affordable and good quality. After some careful comparison I decided Van Gogh is better and now I recommend this brand. Students are curious about professional brand, and while I encourage them to experiment, I also said that it’s fine if they stick with Van Gogh. It’s good paint! Spend your money on Arches paper instead!
The little pick on the back of the paintbrush is there to pry off the palette off of the lid. You have a second larger mixing space underneath! I’m
True. Paper is little more important than paints and Vangogh is easier to use than WN
I actually missed phthalo green and phthalo blue. I eventually kicked out cerulean blue (phthalo), sap green, chinese white, azo yellow light and payne's grey, then replaced it with transparent yellow medium, pyrrole orange, phthalo blue, phthalo green and oxide black.
Phthalo green, quinacridone rose, pyrrole orange and ultramarine make great mixing partners, and yes I mean all of them together, you have to tweak it a little but you can get great purples, blues, greens and cool greys out of a mix of pink and green and orange and ultramarine. Phthalo green became one of my most important colors.
I just wanted to state it, because I'm new to watercolor and only learned of it by not rinsing my brush thoroughly.
I hope it wasn't too much of a comment and please forgive any mistakes I'm from Germany.
I have both sets. Schmincke is better for professional works, but Van Gogh is great for general art work that doesn't have to last for decades. And if you want better dispersion, just add ox gall, or Qor's synthetic ox gall, to your water.
Yes that’s actually the idea I wanted to convey…using a professional set when doing a professional work! Thanks😎
VG's muted color pocket box is a fav of mine when traveling, such a beautiful selection of non-traditional colors in a minimal palette
Yes i love it too😊
Impressive! I just recently upgraded from Cotmans to Van Gogh and I love them. I bought a couple of individual pans of Van Gogh in January 2020 and I really liked them, so I saved and went for the 48 half pan set in a metal tin. I have one tube of Rembrandt, which is the higher quality line by the same company as Van Gogh, and doing a direct colour to colour comparison I actually prefer the Van Gogh.
Thank you!! I really want to test Rembrant after reading this🤥
I have this Van Gogh set and I love it! VG is quite a good quality and LF for 100 yrs under museum conditions.
True that😊
I am obsessed with my Schmincke watercolors. But I also own the van Gogh set and am quite pleased with it. The colours are very nice and easy to activate. Really fun working with them. They are about the same price range as the Windsor and Newton cotman travel box but sooo much better.
True that😁
Bought the van Gogh one a while back and I am so glad that I got it! I am a noob but the vibrancy the way it works is just beautiful. Now I just need to learn how to use it properly :D
Yes its gold for the money 💰
I really love this review! So classy without being boring and you made all the tests AND a supposedly non fair comparison, which ended up being quite fair actually. I feel better for choosing to buy Van Gogh now, I'm really excited for its arrival! Later I'll buy the 24 tin set 🥰
Ps: that Schminke set with a water bottle is the cutest thing!
Thank you i appreciate it😇 and yes the Schmincke whiskey box is just too cute
It should be cute for almost $100USD!!😂 I want one but need to improve a lot to justify the cost!!
Thanks for this effective review. You are right, fhe colours are gorgeous and the price very reasonable. The brush seems to perform quite well, it seems. I would ditch the white and have a phtalo blue instead of the "fake" cerulean blue, which has white. Other than thst, the set is perfect. Thanks again!
You’re welcome 😊
I have just bought and waiting delivery of 24 Van Gough tube paints, all individually chosen, I didn’t want to end up with colours I wouldn’t use. I chose Van Gough after much consideration watching many videos on here, I’m so pleased to watch your video, you confirmed what I thought.
I bought these after paying out more money than I really wanted on a box of Faber Castell watercolours, they are absolutely shocking in quality and colour, to say I was disappointed is an understatement after using their pencils which I love.
Thank you!! You will never regret your choice. All the best for your watercolor journey 👍
I'm just a month in to learning watercolor. I have the typical tubes from the US stores. They seemed slimy and dried crust in the wells of my pallet. I figured they would be good to start with. I bought one tube of Van Gogh and saw the difference. Much smoother, colors are vibrant and dried closer to what I mixed. It's Van Gogh for me for the future. I'm sure I'll be pulled to "higher" quality in a few years but maybe not. Nice video. Thanks for sharing.
Glad to hear that😊 and yes Vangogh rocks. I will do another video using these brilliant paints
The Vangogh WCs are great for colour sketching. I've been using them for my nude studies and they work wonderfully. Applied well enough and it's got a nice opacity to it. The only pan I have a problem with is the Prussian Blue, which is extra hard to activate. Really enjoy your review of this set.
True that and thanks a lot!!
These are considered student grade paints here in Europe, but to be honest, they always confused me, too ^^'. The first watercolours I had were Pelikans, but the older version of this standard pocket box, which only had 12 pans instead of 15, was my second and I always loved painting with them 🥰. So much so, that I also got the muted colour set and the metallic/interference one. They're also vegan unlike the Schminckes' I started to build my new palette with (on which there are actually some Van Goghs still on :)) . It's cool to know that I can have good, reliable paints without oxgall in them (which, I know, is a just byproduct of the beef production, but I'm a vegetarian, so I'd love my Schminckes even more if they'd made their paints without that), that are almost as local to me as the Schmincke company is (Schmincke is from area of Germany as I am, Van Gogh's are made by the company Royal Talens, which is a Dutch one :))
Hope, y'all are doing okay and stay safe in these weird days and weeks.
👋🤗😘 from Germany
P.S. that weirdly ended brush is supposed to be used to push out the pans out of the palette - though you have to be real careful while doing so😅
Hey great to know your story and i appreciate that. I love Schmincke, Van Gogh, DS. VG are some great paints and i really didn't know that until i put my hands on them!
Yes i tried that weird brush to pull out the pans but honestly i will never do that..instead it will be real helpful for some scratches in my paintings for detailings. 🖐😇
@@niazhannanwatercolors It most probably works much better for the scratches than for it's original purpose ^^' Mine got all bend out of shape, because I pulled all of my pans out and rearranged them so they sit in a similar order to how the colours in those opaque watercolour boxes used for school art classes here are arranged. Always do that with my colours, since I'm so used to that arrangement :)
@@LunaBianca1805 😆👌
Just in case you're interested, the Schmincke Akademie paints do not use ox gall, they're vegan. Only 24 colors though I believe.
@@SarahBaileyArts Yeah, the Van Goghs don't do, either. I wish they're carry that over to their professional series. Schmincke that is, not Royal Talens. Rembrandts are vegan as well, if I remember correctly...
These paints are superb, been using them for a very long time, no complaints here 🥰
I bought a small tube set on sale at bargain price. I love them, they are a joy to paint with. I just do paint alongs and line and wash illustrations, but I'm pretty happy with these paints.
Yes these are amazing for its price!
I've just bought two of these boxes - they were ridiculously cheap! I love them - such great colour collection! I think they are better than my Winsor & Newton Cotmans. I also have a couple of artist grade paints and honestly, I can't see much difference.
True that. WN is good but often hard to activate
Thanks so much for doing such a comprehensive test of these Van Gogh. A couple of my friends have them and speak very highly of them, comparing them even to Daniel smith, sennelier, Winsor and newton professional so I was pleased that you found them so impressive too.
Am glad you liked it. Yes i love Vangogh..infact i will pull it out for my next painting. Thanks😇
I totally agree with you.the real question is why is why bother to pay so much money when you can get just as good quality and even more colors for cheaper.
Exactly!
This set is awesome l like this set and recommend for beginners till artists
Thank you!
Love mine (12+3). It’s the Sketch set which is made for Urban sketching. The brush is the perfect size for that, I don’t need a 8 or 10 brush on the go with a 8x 5, 3 x 5 sketchbook. The colors are ver good even on paper of less stature than say that of a Moleskine or Academy for the on the go artista.
I put that see through color card in the inner tray. Just pop out the mixing tray and stick it to the inner frame which can also be used as a mixing pallet.
First purchased a 6 tin of VG back in the 1990’s from a shop near the local Art College. Great set for on the go … and this comes from someone who primarily uses Asian sets, the origins.
Absolutely 💯
Hi there! I used St. Petersburg / White Nights watercolours for the last 3,5 years and I love them. Unfortunately, I have to order them online and since I want to focus on shopping more locally in general, because I want to support the people who live in my city instead of big companies who don't even pay taxes in my country. My local art supply store only carries Lukas, Schmincke and Van Gogh. Although I own a few Schminckes ( and no, there are not cheaper in Germany, even if they're manufactured here) and Lukas 1862, I still prefer the super vibrant look of the Talens Van Gogh watercolours. Especially chinacridone purple red number 592 is almost white nights violet rose number 608, which is my most favourite colour overall, and I like to stick with one manufacturer I'm pleased with. Thank you for your review, because I know now that I can gladly purchase some paints next week.
My pleasure and am glad it helped you understand these brands!
be careful, Violet Rose from White Nights is fugitive :') I made a mistake and bought it too at the beginning of my journey, such a bummer, bc it really is pretty :'))
I just love my set
I use Van Gogh and love it
I have this set. It is good. I like it a lot. Nice video.
Yes it really impressed me! Thank you!!
as a beginner, i agree, Schmincke is more vibrant, but for the money as a beginner, Van Gogh is not too shabby. thanks for using good paper in your example.
Yes Vangogh is definitely a good buy for beginners
Van Gogh has some fun colors to supplement my stash with. I think about anything looks good on Arches (and you can actually wash the paint off Arches if you don't like your painting). However, on lesser paper, the differences between Van Gogh and artist quality (Daniel Smith) become more apparent, mostly in terms of paint behavior. Does it layer? Does it cauliflower? Does it flow? But I've seen reviews of this Whiskey palette and I think Schmincke may have included a bad batch of paint because the paint isn't great.
Here’s one thing worth considering. While student-grade paint may look good now, it may not be archival and may fade and discolour over time. For many people who are just having a bit of fun, that might not matter. For professionals who are selling paintings, that matters a lot. The last thing they would need is reputational damage and collectors asking for their money back.
Professional grade paint makers put time and money into making sure that their paint will look just as good in a hundred years or more.
True👌🏼
I’m sure I’ve read that Van Gogh have excellent light fast qualities. Worth investigating if it’s an issue for you.
We’ll all be gone from this existence before the VG paint fades all of .005% in our sketchbooks. It’s 100 yrs for most colors and don’t forget these are ‘student grade’.
Very glad for this video. I have had the same question as you about this colors since I got a set a s a gift from my wife some years ago. Are they rather more an artist (pro) quality than a student quality? Or say in an other way ; Are they an artist quality priced as a student quality? You see: From my oldest daughter I got a set of Daniel Smiths colors. She is the most proff in the family. When we speak about student quality I have only Aqua fine (Daler & Rowney) and Cotman form Winstor & Newton to compare with , and even if both this brand are good enough for my use, I have to say that van Gogh- if it is a student quality - has been my choice since I got them. (Even compared with my set of Daniel Smith; but please: Dont tell my daugther !
😄 i won't say anything to anyone sir. Yes VG are amazing painting for its price
I have Mijello Mision Gold, but I want to try schmincke its looks great. Thanks for the video.
Schmincke is way ahead of mission gold if you want your watercolor to flow. Am glad😊
Schmincke is a most expensive and highquality watercolor.
They are very good! I have both pans and tubes.
Yes these are amazing!
❤
Thanks for a great review! Very helpful.
I purchased the 18 pan set on someone else's recommendation and was really impressed with them for the price. Although I have plenty of W&N and Daniel Smith paints, the Van Gogh set is becoming my go-to for sketches...have you tried Renesans? Your tests are excellent and I would like to see what you think of this brand. Also Roman Szmal - both of these are Polish brands.
Am get to get my hands on Renesans and Roman szmal
Bruh !! 🤣🤣🤣 that brush end is not for scratching but you can use if you want to but that brush end is to pick up the mixing palette to get extra space to mix look on the left hand side there is a square shaped hole put that brush end there and pull upwards if still confused watch [wiff waffles] van gogh video.
Byeeee
But i will use it for scratching only 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I use that brand and I like it.
hello, i have Vang gogh , i love it, dont forget that must have a good aquarelle paper, vangogh best than pubeo..now im searching for Isaro.
Hello..i too want Isaro hard to find it here in India though
The ultimate test would have been to paint the exact same painting with both paints to see if the subtle differences you found in testing, affects the outcome of a painting. And to determine if there is any difference in the outcome of the paintings, is there enough of a difference to justify spending four times the amount of money. I think it is fine to test different aspects of a particular brand or set of paints, but then, to not actually create a painting with those paints, is a bit ridiculous. It is like testing out the quality of a new car by testing out all of the features, without actually ever driving the car to determine how well it operates and how smooth it rides. You would never make a determination on a new car without test driving it first. So how can you evaluate a set of paints, without actually painting a picture with them first ?
Why don’t you do a video and show us the correct way?
🤣
Royal Talens. The best one!
I purchased the van gogh and was very pleased with them but lately I've noticed they need lot of prewetting to activate them and maybe bc its winter and the house is dry , thanks for the review 👍
Am glad my review helped you purchase that
the other end of this brush is a very useful tool to pull the pans from this palette out , or the mixing aeria to extend the compact palette if you need ... I´m thinking you should don´t use this for scratching the paper or so ...
Ohh i see. Thanks!
i love them, but how do u deal with the pieces of the colors always gluing the mixture part? Whenever I open them, they end up coming out and I end up wasting time organizing them :(
Thanks for sharing
Pleasure!
Я из России. На сегодняшний день (29 апреля 2024 года) именно эта краска Ван Гога стоит от 2950 рублей или 32 доллара (курс 1 доллар США равен 92 российским рублям), а акварель Белых Ночей от 1200 рублей или 12 долларов США. Сравнение считаю необъективным по причине цены. Если говорить о характеристиках, то у Белых Ночей очень большой выбор акварели с указанными свойствами (например, грануляцией) и точным составом. Выбирайте краску под свои задачи.
Hmm, interesting 🧐
Thanks for this review. Do you know which size pan should be used for replacement? 1/2 size or full size Van Gogh pans?
Pleasure! 1/2 pan
I have this box. I feel like they missed out a few important primaries for mixing. And I wouldn't mind a purple too. 🤔
I totally agree!
Can you review the Winsor and Newton Cotman watercolor too? I like how you review this watercolor. And please make comparison between this watercolor and W&N Cotman watercolor. Thank you
Oh man i have to buy a box to review it😫 i had the cotman sketches box but its empty now!
@@niazhannanwatercolors u already use it? Its that good?
Does fill with tube paints have practical differences from standard pans?
Not much different
You can do a gold colour with them
You surely can😊
Hi does your Prussian blue make a very fine granulation? I know ultramarine does, but my Prussian has a horrible texture to it.
True that. It looks a little to harsh
Can you please share the link of thi set?
I ordered through Flipkart and they sent me the mettalic set. Since it was an open-box delivery it's not eligible to return. Also, due to certain technical glitches I couldn't request a return/refund/replacement.
I foundbit on Amazon, but I'm afraid the same thing would happen again. I was about to pay right now, but then Ihought of asking you for the link instead so it's safe and I don't have to deal with the whole exchange-return scene. 😊😊
Amazon is running a sale on this right now. It's for 1300/- now. Mine will be delivered in a couple of days. I will update you on this.
On a side note, I would recommend a 24 pan metal palette sold by HIMI (not the old folding palette that comes with dry pans, this one comes with semi moist pans in a white metal tin). It's available for less than 2k, pigments are on par with Aquatone and behave much much better.
Those are awesome!!
Did u ever use sakura koi or krutake watercolors 👀
Thank you! I have sakura koi..its very Chalky i don't like it and i will never recommend you to buy one!
I believe that if you think seriously about painting, buying student grade paints is just waste of money. Sooner or later you start buying professional paints and will see how poor quality the student grade were. It happened to me. I have a drawer full of Van Goghs, Aquafines, Cotmans, Sonnets and God knows what else, and I know just one thing - I'll never use them again.
Donate them! There's tons of student painters that are too scared to waste professional paint on experimening. Waste of paints to sit in a drawer if you're never gonna use them again.
Many professional artists still include Van Gogh collrs in their palettes, they are rated student grade, but are actually also lightfast and very nicely saturated with pigments :) For the other brands- yeah, but also, when someone is just starting it's better to go for "just" Van Gogh for example than really expensive ones... and also invest more in paper and most importantly- give it the time and improve skills :) additionally van goghs won't actively fight beginners back ;)
Hey!! I would like to upgrade from Camlin colors for quite some time. But I am confused about whether should I go with the Van Gogh watercolor set or Mungyo SARGENT ART Professional Watercolour Pans. I would Like to know which one is better in terms of performance or are there any other set under rs. 2000 that I should go with?
Mungyo will be my choice in this particular case
Van Gogh line is Non-Toxic
Non toxic but could be harmful if you swallow it..otherwise on skin its friendly
Why is red orange?
Can you please tell me is the japan watercolors "coi" are good?
Koi is very chalky I don’t recommend
It is unfare to compare Van Gogh to Schmincke. Van Gogh is great but at the student level, whereas Schmicke is one of the best profesional grade watercolors. Both are great products at their different levels.
There is nothing about being fair or unfair its just a comparison between a student grade and artists to see what we are missing!
Never limit yourself by listening to what people say rather be wild and free 😉
By the way have you ever tried Kuretake Gansai Tambe?
Not yet
In the world of watercolors, you should first get professional paper, Arches, Leonardo, Cezanne .... and the colors will not paint themselves, a good master will do a quality painting and that Lefranc Louvre watercolors and as for RT Van Gogh paints are superior in terms of quality- the price.
Yes absolutely
And Rembrandt's ideas of how good they are, I personally use them and I can say that they were created for impressionism, their pigmentation is perfect and Van Gogh is the second line of Royal Talens, Van Gogh are otherwise top colors, very intense and now new colors are presented. from China but from the Netherlands are colors that can match the price and quality of high quality paints, Rembrandt are very expensive paints but worth and Schmincke probably the best paints in the world do not paint alone, and their disadvantage is that the colors in the tube differ from paints with Van Gogh the quality is the same (even Van Gogh in a 10 ml tube is not cheap at all (18 tubes of selected colors cost around 140e in Europe
I think shmink is cuter🥹🤍
I like you videos, but the music is very annoying. Who needs it?
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You always have the option of turning the volume down. I find the music soothing. To each their own, important thing is to enjoy the paints
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Hmm..
Ughhh
Woohooo
I am really hesitant to buy Van gogh 15 colors or/ Faber 24 colors, both are at the same price, but I am looking for the best?? 🥲🥲
Vangogh is amazing for its price..go for it