Avoid The Thief
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- čas přidán 13. 04. 2012
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Video made by Paddy Cahill - www.paddycahill.com
Graphics by Will Andrews - www.willandrewsdesign.com
Supported by Dublin Cycling Campaign, Dublin City Council and the Gardai.
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A few things they don't really mention here that can definitely help make your bike lest tempting.
#1 - get quick release mechanisms for your seat and handle bars and remove them/take then with you when you lock up your bike. That already makes the bike less tempting. You can also get quick release for your front wheel, and remove the front wheel once your bike is locked up, then place that front wheel right next to your rear wheel, and pass one U-bolt through both wheels and attach that U-bolt to the frame of the bike. Then get your second U-bolt and pass that one through the wheels as well as the frame of the bike, and then to the bike rack.
#2 - Use 2 or 3 u-bolt locks when you lock up your bike and lock it in a way that makes the actual u shaped bar section of the lock$ the least accessible. When getting a U-bolt type lock, get one that allows you to pull the U section completely off of the lock itself. The reason why is because you will then want to go to the hardware store and get two short sections of thick metal pipe. When you go to lock up your bike, slip one of the short sections of the metal pipe you bought on to the straight part of the U section of the lock, so that those straight sections are now additionally protected by the thick pipe which will be VERY difficult and frustrating for a thief to cut through because the pipe section will wiggle and spin around as well as doubling the time it will take to cut through. As far as the actual bent part of the U section, make sure that part is up tight against the frame of the bike and bike rack, that way it's next to impossible for them to get the right approach for the angle grinder to cut the bent part of the U section. So make sure you you have one U-bolt securing the front wheel to the frame and bike rack, another U-bolt securing the frame itself to the rack, and then the 3rd U-bolt securing the back wheel to the bike frame and and bike.
Does that really help and discourage the thieves? I live in a major U.S. city where bike theft has become epidemic and is out of control. I was sitting in an outdoor Starbucks seating area this summer. The seating area had some wood lattice with green foliage growing on it so that as a person walking on the side walk approaches the bike rack which is also on the sidewalk, you wouldn't be able to see that there was anyone seated within just 5 feet of the bike rack. Anyhow as I was sitting there, sipping on an iced coffee and using the Starbucks WiFi, I hear what sounded like 2 or 3 people walking towards the bike rack where I had a relatively nice Diamond Back locked out, I heard one of them say "hey check it out".... so I peaked through the greenery to see 3 young guys standing there (one of them crouched down checking out not only my bike but the locks I had on them and exactly how I had the locks attached to every part of the bike and each lock also attached to the bike rack. They were actually able to identify exactly which model of Diamond Back bike I had as well the custom Shimano components on it, so yeah... they knew what they were doing. Anyhow after checking it out for a minute, the guy that was crouched down checking everything out finally said. "fnCk this $h!t" after ge realized that it would be a major pain in the ass and major amount of time to bypass not only all of the locks I had on the bike, but also the way I had positioned them and locked everyone of them to the bike rack itself.
So they just walked off and went searching else where.
The story isn't over quite yet though. I was at the Starbucks for about another 20 minutes, then decided to head out. The Starbucks was located in a shopping center with lots of other stores in the same shopping center. I need to head through the entire shopping center parking lot (about 2 blocks long) to get to the street I wanted to be on, so when I finally got to the other side of the shopping mall and was riding past a sporting goods place, I saw the terrible sight of a cable chain with lock still attached laying on the ground next to a bike right in front of the sporting goods place and I recongnized that cable chain because I had rode right past that same store on my way to Starbucks and I remember seeing the Nishiki Custom Sport ($950) bike locked up on that rack and I had to shake my head when I saw that it was locked up with a cable type lock, yeah it was a very thick cable but the difference between a thick cable and a medium cable is about 1 second of cutting time with orginary bolt cutters.
Anyhow it didn't take much speculation for me to figure out that the cable lock sitting on the ground belonged to the owner of the bike which was now missing. Then as I reached the street, I could see the same 3 guys that had been checking out my bike, then were about 3/4's a a block away and had the missing bike with them of course. The wheeled it in to a parking lot across the street from the shopping center, that belong to a business that had gone bankrupt recently. The lifted the bike and put it in to the back of a beat up old trunk and drove away.
I did go back to see if I could locate the bike owner, but no one in the sporting good store knew who the biked belonged to. Anyhow, that whole thing was proof positive that your best defense is to make things as hard and tedious to a potential bike theif as possible.
Using the above methods, I've never had a bike stolen, and have come out of stores, to find several other bikes that were locked up next to mine (also using U-Bolts but only 1 and not positioned in the best way as described above) and those bikes were either stolen (obvious from the broken locks on the ground) or cannibalized (ie seat, handle bars, tire, breaks all gone, only frame remaining) and yet my bike not even touched.
# 3 - For goodness sake if you get a brand new, expensive bike that's flashy and has huge brand name logos places all over the frame, remove what ever you can (such as emblems, adhesive films with flashy brand name stuck to frame, etc) why in the world would you want to advertise to thieves that you have a new expensive bike? After my experience at Starbucks I ended up getting some fine grit sand paper and sanded down the painted on emblems on my bike frame to make it looks as plain as possible. Then I sprayed the sanded areas which still had paint on them but no more emblems in a dull clear coat to protect the paint.
Hope all of the above information and tips proves useful to anyone that's looking to avoid getting their bike stolen.
I commute using a cheap, second hand, rusty, beat up bike. While the things you suggest would undoubtably be a hassle to any would-be bike thieves, they would be an ever bigger hassle to me, day after day.
@@Fridelain well then do what works for you. As you can see from my comment I only mention higher costing bikes in which case it is worth it to take extra messures to protect the investment.
Que triste...
Thanks for the insight. I'll definetely try that out. Here locks are kinda expensive, and we don't have many racks for parking a bike. That would naturally led me towards a kryptonite chain rather than a U-lock. Would you agree it's a nice option or you'd still stick to the U-lock?
All of this is exactly why I wish employers who say they want their employees to ride bikes to work would provide a room inside the building for storage of the bike behind reception. It's much more difficult for some asshole off the street to waltz into a protected area of a building and leave with something they didn't walk in with. If you as a company really want to promote a greener lifestyle, you have to facilitate it. Making employees leave their bikes outside is not facilitating a cycling culture in the workplace.
***** Indeed, and it could also help the growing obesity problems (pun only kind of intended) in so many countries, too. But employers need to recognize that they have a part to play in promoting that culture, and a great way to encourage employees is to show them that they want more bikes is to help keep them safe while employees work. If they can't provide a whole room, perhaps help employees afford foldable bikes and installing a hanging rack or two in the break room, or making room at cubicles and desks for their bikes or something like that. Of course none of this will entirely eliminate theft, but it's leaps and bounds above making them leave them outside and vulnerable.
***** Never said the front door, I said in the break room or somewhere out of sight. The point of all I've said is that bikes are almost laughably easy to steal, and very easily rust etc. If I were an employee and my employer said "Yeah, we want you to bike to work, but you have to leave your bike outside, exposed to the elements, and possibly stranding you without a ride home if some jackass decides to take it while you're working because we're not going to do anything to protect you or what we're trying to encourage." I wouldn't bike to work. I would consider that an empty suggestion and lip service. Also, many employees come in and leave work before sunrise or after sunset. As a woman, I do not feel safe at all spending time outside at dark fiddling with locks and chains. It leaves me vulnerable and I already don't like going to work and getting out of my car while it's dark, but that's a lot safer than being vulnerable the wole time. If they want to promote a bike culture, they need to facilitate it, like I've been saying. Yes, sometimes that means putting your money where your mouth is.
***** I run my own business and work from home, so no, I'm not complaining about my current situation. I'm recalling a situation that a friend of mine is in where his company recently went green and were encouraging a healthier lifestyle in general and was encouraging employees to bike to work. A bunch started and bikes started getting stolen (yes, they were locked), as the area they had to lock them up is out of sight and isolated. Management basically responded that that wasn't their problem while continuing to promote bike commutes to those who lived close enough that it was possible and practical. I hear what you're saying, but argument is that if the company is going to encourage bike commutes, they should show interest in facilitating it, and that having employees make an investment in another form of transportation and then doing absolutely nothing to protect it means their encouragement is empty. If I had employees and were encouraging a commute on bikes, I would talk to bike companies and see if we could get some sort of group discount on folding bikes that employees could lock up at their stations or somewhere inside that's protected, or at least put up decent cameras or some form of security. I would consider it holding up my end of the bargain.
***** It's really pointless to discuss this any further as absolutely nothing is going to change.
***** Tone is difficult to gauge through text. I'm not worked up, I simply have a writing style that makes me sound more passionate than I am. If you were to hear me speak about it, you would not have gotten that impression. Even if I were, though, my points should stand on their own merit, regardless of how I feel. ;)
honestly, the best/easiest way to steal a bike is to take a camera guy with you, in broad daylight, no one will even bother to look.
I just use a heavy ass chain.You get sad just by looking at it.The point is, no matter what lock you use, if someone wants to steal it,they will steal it
LOL!! "You get sad just by looking at it", that made me laugh. :p
I used to use cheap ass locks and think it was ok, until my sisters bike got stolen last month. It was a brand new bike and I bought it for her, so that was a wake-up call for me. Now we are locking our bikes with a 13mm hardened special steel U-lock from Abus and onto vast objects in the city. I'm also gonna get an Abus chain lock, fully hardened steel, 9 mm shackles.
Unless they use an angle grinder, which cuts through about! anything, I wish them good luck stealing my bike.
Frigging thieves! Should use that grinder to chop their hands off!
Seertaneja Fan Your 13mm U-Lock is putty to a pair of small easily hidden and carried bolt cutters. You need atleast 14mm to force them to use a larger more cumbersome set of bolt cutters. Look on youtube you will see videos showing exactly that.
@@experiment54 I suggest nothing less than an 18mm u lock, an alarm (130db) disc brake lock and a 3' hardened steel chain for starters.
When the guy is speaking and pointing to a lock... PLEASE SHOW HIS FINGER POINTING TO THE LOCK AND THE BIKE. He was talking about how poorly the bikes were locked but the camera was pointed at his face most of the time and then a quick glance at the bike, then a quick cut to another shot of his face doing the EXACT SAME THING.
my thoughts exactly
Poor cameraman skills
LoL at the people using normal locks you normally would use at a gym locker or similar, most of these would be easy enough to cut trough in a split second. Though you'd probably not need a bolt cutter or similar, a simple paper clip would do.
Combination locks you could smash with a hammer and they'll break. The lock he shown in the beginning, similar to a motorcycle lock, it would be cut trough with bolt cutter if you do it at the right place.
Most locks unfortunately will not be secure enough if the thief got a bolt cutter, however you can make it harder for them to take/keep your bike. Some of the tips he stated in the end of this video.
Another is to get a tracker device which will report any movement and the current position via GSM, by sending you a text message once a while. This way you can get your bike back fairly easy and have the cops take the thief in. Press charges, get money and spoil your bike with some new stuff ;)
The best, most informative, most practical video on bike security so far! Thank you to Gareth and all producers for the creativity!! :)
Wasn't shocked at the recommendations he showed of trash locks that are easily defeated, but more so surprised that I can understand him. Bravo.
here around 10 years later, Very informative video showing how it needs to be done and how not to be done along with additional info on safe keeping ! thank you
Hadn't occurred to me to thread one end of the cable through the other; I'll see if it works with mine... :)
Photo with you and the bike. I would not have thought of that bit its sooooo obvious. Thanks for this. Gent is dead entertaining too 🙂
The proper lock is key! I got back my stolen bike in front of a hostel (Huntington Beach, California). Great informative video.
The best vid on this topic I have found so far... Good work.
Also it doesnt hurt to lock your bike beside a worse locked bike or a bike that looks nicer than yours. That way if someone was gonna rob it theyd probably just rob the other.
Sad but true.
A good idea at the surface, but let me warn you that I myself have tried that. I have only bought "low quality" bikes, and have locked them among other far -more expensive-looking bikes (which are easy to find since my bikes have not been the best kind), but on two different occasions my crummy department-store, mass-produced low-quality bikes have been stolen when there were much better bikes chained nearby. It could be that bike thieves have some kind of elaborate theft ring going on and they leave better-looking bikes chained nearby to fool people into thinking that good bikes are locked all over the area, and therefore it gives the impression that good bikes don't get stolen in the location, so it is a "safe place." Think about this.
Expensive bikes can be traced better than a cheap bike.
Plenty of low-quality bikes have a lot more eye-candy factor than better ones. I work in a bike shop, and 9 times out of 10 when something bright and colorful rolls in it's from WalMart. The Treks, Cannondales, Burleys, etc. are much more subdued looking, with single color or otherwise less eye catching paint jobs.
@David Shaw Take pictures of the serial numbers like he said, buy a good lock and get insurance. A 2000+ dollar bike is a lot harder to sell and much easier to trace. Luckily most bike thieves are opportunists that take some crap bike to get them home or sell for a shot of heroin. And put it next to comparable bikes with worse locks. The sad thing is that those fuckers who go after high end bikes will also be the kind to bring cordless angle grinders. And they make discs now that barely make any sparks. Great for home improvement but not the greatest invention for bike security. And the people I know with super duper nice bikes, take em wherever they go. At least those fancy carbon bikes aren't too hard to put over shoulder and bring inside.
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Thankyou for all the information you have put on here about locking up bikes properly n how to prove you have owned the bike in the case it is stolen. A very informative video!
Great video, good advice. Surprising how few people secure their bikes properly
Always make sure both wheels and frame is locked. Unless you have anti theft skewers for both wheels are great as well. Lock up seat as well if it has a quick release. Take all removable accessories lights, bags and pumps etc. with you. Lastly, double check and make sure it's locked up to an immovable object.
Good luck and always be vigilant.
Well done mate. Good film. Clear to the point.
WOW! Great Video! Very Informative! Thank you so much!
Very informative! Thanks!
Great video. Nicely done!
Great advice man, thanks , cheers
I see a lot of dismantled bikes around with wheels stolen and sometimes even the seats. The bike shop guy recommended me that Kryptonite dual U lock which I've not had problem with so far, but my bike is a secondhand crappy looking bike, so I doubt many thieves would bother
you would be surprised
Fantastic video, thank you.
Good video, thanks! What's wrong with combination locks? You didn't explain. Please expand.
Same here. I use U-lock and combination chain lock. Throughout the internet people have been telling me that a combination chain lock is useless and it might come handy only when there is another bike parked next to yours which has one less lock and thief might go for that to save time. Even then it takes about 4 seconds to cut a combination chain lock with a long bolt cutter.
Great video. As someone intending on taking up cycling it's nice to hear an expert explain the theory of good bike locking. I don't agree with leaving your lock on a pole when you're bike isn't there as not only could a thief tamper with your lock, but it's just unsightly too. Lots of bikes are a good sign of a vibrant city. Lots of locks just suggests that cyclists are lazy.
Thanks for the great tips. Time to invest in a better lock!
Combination locks are really easy to unlock. You can see video's on here to show you has easy it is.
If there is no pole and I’m going away for a few minutes can I lock the seatpole to the back wheel?
Fantastic !
Im curious about Dreadlocks how does it lock? lol
Nitro glycerine takes care of most locks or if you have one, stick of dynamite with cigar (for lighting fuse)
thank you very much!!!
do you have the link of the video. I'd love to watch it :D
that was really a help. thanks
very good video and advice … ive had a new bike recently after my last one was stolen and ive got 6 security devices on it including two alarms .. so what more can I do eh?
Phil John what did you go with?
Really great video
What parts/lock-kit would help prevent the theft of the wheels, seat, seatpost, handlebars, and maybe even the brakes, on a 2008 Marin Mount Vision Pro? The local bike shops can't seem to suggest anything, even for the wheels, and I just don't know much of anything about this stuff.
Best video on the topic be a country mile and it's 8 years old. Great idea to actually go around and display examples of bad locks and bad methods!
I always bring my bicycle inside where I am and, if not allowed to, the folding bike usually is accepted. If that is not allowed, I either take the car or don't use the establishment.
Note, I own the best locks available but only use them when traveling as I lock my bicycle inside my van to an attachment point made for this purpose.
I realize, though, that not everyone is as fortunate as I am in terms of where to leave their bicycle. In that case, I'd use a "beater bike", made to look like garbage, and locked with the best locks. As long as I'm beating the cost of a car I don't worry about its eventual theft.
That first lock isnt two types of lock in one. Its one lock. A thief just cuts the U-Lock and the cable falls off with it. For it to be two locks the cable would need its own locking mechanism.
At 1:20 there is Drury Street Car Park which right now has a lot of space for bikes right now at a different entrance. I find I can rest better when I can leave it in there overnight. I have also seen videos of those great locks being smashed right through in seconds from something in a backpack or in the coat.
I like combination locks that are chains. I hate losing keys, and is a thief going to go through 100,000 possible combinations to get it open? He has more chance of coming upon the key that I dropped for the same kind of lock.
@@sashaisgod2309 all you have to do with combinations is pull/tension onthe lock and move the numbers around until it becomes harder to move to open it. combinations should not be used.
This was useful, thank you!
Could I ask why exactly you view the combination lock as your "enemy" (by that im assuming you mean not very good)
I use a U-Lock and a combi chain lock personally
backpack/bike bag?
4:35 very good locking and nice bike
What's wrong with a thick cable lock with combination? I've seen people open those U ones with pens.
I would love to hear you say the words, "Periwinkle Blue." Consider it in a future video.
How can you carry a U- Lock on you if it will not fit on your bike?
Hi guys. I have a question that needs answering and the more opinions I have the clearer my mind will be.
I went to the shops today and I used a Kryptonite and a magnum lock (both U-locks) I U-locked on both my wheels and frame. I used the strong cable (Both came with U-locks) to secure my seat, rack and basket.
It’s my first time leaving my bike at a supermarket bike rack so I was rushing as fast as I could. Not even 2 minutes inside the shop, self doubt started to kick in and my brain was starting to nag and say things like I didn’t attach the lock to the post. ( you know the most important thing) I ran out the shop and was relieved to see it still there and attached to the post but I looked up to see some guy STARRING at my bike. 😮 I kind of ‘rudely asked if he’s alright. He jumped and asked if the bike was mine. I said yes. He said he was admiring it and then left. I was stood there for about 2 mins scratching my head. I went to get my shopping. My question is do you guys think he was ‘admiring’ my bike or do you think he was about to pinch it?! He just looked like your average guy.
Pls help because it’s my first time locking up my bike in public and it scared me! I know I locked it up with top quality locks and I made sure EVERYTHING was locked. How long do you guys lock your bikes? I only left for 2 mins! I’m glad I trusted my intuition!
Pls help and give your opinions because I’m contemplating not leaving my bike anywhere other than my house.
Hi Sandra, keep trusting your intuition. Always lock your bike fully when leaving it in public - sometimes it can be tempting to just use one lock if you're "popping in for a minute" but most thefts are opportunist, so don't give thieves the opportunity! Sometimes supermarket bike racks are placed in secluded areas, so perhaps look a more public location with something sturdy to lock the bike to. It can also be worth flagging incidents like this with the shop management so they are more aware of thieves operating near them.
Dublin Cycling Campaign Thanks so much. Your right the bike rack was at the side of the shop and I also noticed when I walked inside some people left their bikes behind the security desk. Granted I don’t know if those bikes belong to employees but I will take your advise and talk to the security guards and ask them if they think it’s safe to leave my bike there. Thanks again.
THANK you
My bike weighs #70 without the electric motor engaged which also has a bolt lock in the battery. Add a couple of D locks and a cable will give the thief a reason to keep on walking somewhere else especially if since the bike new is under 1.5k. A stolen bike value is only a quarter at best. Less if they can’t engage the electric aspect
Informative
Why don’t you use 2 of the U locks, one in front and one in back?
Great video - I'm here a bit late, though thanks for the great info!
I always use a hardened chain with integrated, pick-resistant hardened lock. They're a pain in the ass to break compared to u-locks. Also, when locking the wheels, make sure you capture the rim, not just the spokes. Otherwise, a few snips with side cutters and you're s.o.l.
the steel in chains are as good as ULocks. the weakness of chains is that they can be moved around to make them easier to cut with bolt cutters. Chains are usually very heavy compared to a ULock using the same thickness steel.
Very good
This is why I don't bike to work. Employers need to step up by providing a secure place for bicycles. I never have lost my own bicycles for a reason. KRYPTONITE D-Locks with combinations of Cables or Chains with the D-LOCKS... It depends where you go. I took my bike rack off the truck during camping & both bikes were D-Locks with my Motor-Cycle-Chain with the bike rack, no one could ever pick it up while the Hitch lock was on it as well LOL! ... Make it more trouble then its worth.
do not use cable locks they are easily cut with bolt croppers extension cables that are thick is the same. i think 13mm d locks can be cut with bolt croppers
Don't do that rattling with chains on the bikes locked to poles and bikestands!
They get scratches!
should i invest in two quality U locks for frame, front and back wheel or should i just buy one and use a cable like shown? i mean a cable like that can be snapped in no time
the theory is that you should use 2 types of locks so you can defeat the poor thieves who only carry 1 hand tool that defeats cables or ulock or chains but probably not all 3. The reality of it is that all cables can be cut faster than you can take it off with a key so cables are only for securing things you don't mind losing. this includes "armoured" cables.
Best video so far...
Wise advise.
Mine was hacksawed the other day. The police just came in time. Silver rated lock, it done its job, but just brought the new york kryptonite.
Thanks for the vid Colin Farrell
bike shared with my friend for a bit. He used two cable locks that cost £1 each. Was stolen within 3 months.
Grate video I learned a lot my bike was stolen last week and i added this video to my bike Thief play list I hope that's ok
How do you protect the seat?
siZeDcuBe with thin cable, Like He showed it on the front wheel, do it through your seat bars just under your seat. They need a little bolt cutter to steal it.
yo, Jack Sparrow. sup.
and that's why I ordered 4 bike locks
a u lock, 2 cable locks and disc lock
it was a faulty lock model
cheap combo or expensive combo ? wisely locked ?(how to) on what ?, in wich place ? in daylight or at night ? for how many hours ? in an isolated place or trafficated one ?, questions are many, think on all of them, i keep seeing broken and stolen bikes at train stations, i never leave mine there, still people keeps bringing in bikes (they must be new residents i suppose) avoid certain places, avoid many hours, avoid nights, invest in the best systems, your % on bike loss will drop dramatically
Bike very nice
Were those handcuffs on that bike! lol!
Only problem with his lock was that, if a thief was to remove the few spokes which the lock went around and undo the wheel, the wheel is gone.
Ireland had 15-20 years of prosperity. Why this didnt eliminate crime?
Do you guys have eny thoughts abaut that?
if only we could have some device where an electric shock would be given and a big one at that too … within the law of course
Me and a friend of mine actually rigged up such a thing with a u-bolt style lock and a disassembled taser. It worked quite effectively (more than once lol). I don't recommend just anyone do it though because you REALLY have to know what you are doing when it comes to the high voltage step up capacitors in tasers.
The Accent is quite Legendary
I had my locked bike stolen on the busiest street in Berkeley, California. I came out of a store another time in Berkeley and found a street bum taking stuff out of my bike bag. Caught another street bum just as he was taking my bike out of my garage - broad daylight. Best anti-theft device? 9mm
9mm? I prefer 45ACP, they go down & stay down!
You just leave the 9mm to watch over the bike while you're in the store?
How's a gun going to help, unless you're guarding the bike all day? Try locking your garage and bike with decent locks perhaps? Typical dumb replies from dumb gun owners.
I don't feel sorry for bums
thanks, ive never left my bike outside in nyc so i dont get to ride much but I would say park it outside a store with cameras and hope they cooperate in case of crime.
When I buy unlock that come with cables they tend to get in the way. And beside you really don't need them, this is just my opinion.
cables are easy to cut no matter its thickness its more of a deterrent. i use mine if i'm locking up for long periods.
On Ohio we were there for almost 6 yrs and only heard of ONE bike taken from some kid down the street from us. Sad how even here in Rhode Island like 8 of ten people you talk to had one taken. I lost three from 1982-1987. Crazy, because you think nobody wants to lose their bike, so you think we are smart enough to think twice before stealing someones bike. Its low down and rude as heck, so just leave peoples cars, moto's and bikes alone. Peace, that would be a nice. :)
Jack sparrow!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Most of those bike racks could be cut with a $5 hacksaw. I think I could lean against one and work behind my back and cut it with a pipe cutter and load in my parked next to one in 2 minutes.
my god that chain at 4:11 ! that things huuuuge
I haven't had any HUGE issues with this lock yet! czcams.com/users/postUgkxfyHDlEqk6hqu9acdvK5NGzZsGKSokSbv It seems sturdy and like it will get the job done. I really like that it has a twisting lock feature to keep out dirt and debris. However, the mounting system is much too light for the lock, and continues to get loose/move around. It's mostly made of plastic parts, and I've had to tighten it a few times in the past week or so that I've had it. I'm worried that it's going to break off at some point while I'm riding. I'm considering just scrapping that part, but that would mean having to carry the heavy lock i my backpack and adding more weight. I wish I could have given this more stars, but without the mounting system, it's just another heavy lock that I have to cart around. UPDATE: Increased rating to 5 stars because the seller offered to provide a new lock and mounting system. Really appreciate the attention to customer service!!
Who came up with the 10% rule for a lock? So basically if you get a bike on sale for less than £30 you can use an old bit of string to tether it to a lamppost.
Price is not the same as value.
You should spend 10% of the value of your bike on a lock.
My bicycle is worth like 1000usd but it had no price to me as it was a gift. I should spend 100usd on a lock although I paid 0 for the bike.
The best use for a bike lock is beating a bike thief with it 👍
I can understand that there's a possibility that many combination locks sucks, but is it the very quality of the material or the pure fact that it's a combination lock that is bad?
***** Aha, like if we're in a hurry we might only switch our combination from say "222" to "223" something like that?
On the gym locker, I always set it to 7777 when closed(My combo doesn't have a single 7)
nice
LMAO was this filmed in Notting Hill?
back pack or back pocket
I don't understand, what is wrong with combination locks..? I would assume that it is easier to pick a key lock than the combination one on the same type.
***** least resistance mate.
I'm not a thief, I'm a locksmith.
***** Ok, I got it :) But what if someone puts a toothpick in your key lock? It's the only reason I would prefer a combination lock but now that you warned me it is better not to buy any lock but keep a bicycle always with me :)
Nikola A Simple, buy a disc based locking system like an Abloy or an Abus Plus, it would have to be a pretty big toothpick to fit in one of those.
Mwh loks
At 2:00 min can the lock you put be put on the opposite way so it's locking the front tire instead ?
Mike Acceptance yep
That's how I lock my bike up every time just you showed at 2 mins in
but it is better to lock the back wheel with the main lock, because back wheels are more expensive and harder to replace because of the gears.
Also... get the lock around the rim, not the spokes.
Best lock is a 9mm pistol
thx man. This is very stereotyping. Learned from it.
How has it taken me 9 years to see this???...Two decent lock's when out and about...Keep it inside the house if you can.
Tip...just turn the handlebar sideways as i did in a tiny hallway in D15.
Stay safe folkes.
Only certain U locks can be opened with a pen & retailers have stopped selling them but they are still showing up on Amazon the normal key type is ok & combination locks are crap very easy to either open or cut U locks are the best but with portable grinders nothings 100% safe
Better to buy a cheap bike or get a second hand one from the police auctions
My bike got stolen on Tuesday so I'm trying to research the best lock
You can never make your bike thief proof, you can only make it so the other guys bike is easier to steal. Sad but true 😰
To take one look at my bike, a would be thief would have to be desperate to steal it. it was 500 new, but that was a long time ago, and all the rust makes it less tempting to steal, but the secret is in all that rust and wear and tear, its is a well maintained bike, and like triggers broom, apart from the frame, everything has been replaced at least once. it still cycles like new, but no one but he desperate fool is going to steal it. that been said, a good quality U lock through the back wheel, and a chain lock through the front!!