Fixing a Sega Genesis With Bad Video - Retro Console Restoration
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I've featured a few Sega Genesis Model 2's on the channel previously, but when I was contacted about the issue with this particular system I was intrigued. It has a very strange problem with its graphics, and one that I found close to no information about anywhere else.
I decided to take on the challenge and accepted this donation, figuring it would be a unique repair and a good learning exercise. The previous owner informed me that the symptoms of this console only appeared after a recap attempt with a kit that they had purchased from Console5.
Enjoy watching the repair journey with this one, and hope you learn something along the way!
My philosophy on buying tools is to start small and to "outgrow" your gear over time. Expensive gear won't improve your repair and fault finding skills, only practice will do that. With that in mind below is what's in my current toolkit.
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great continuity tracing tutorial. I had fun with your "spot the problem" section, you should do it more often! I'd also like to see you take on trying to repair a bunch of "for-parts" Genesis consoles. You have a really no-nonsense way of troubleshooting problems when you get down to business that's fun to watch.
Thanks for the kind feedback. Glad you enjoyed the video.
I really can't express how much I wanted the problem to be because he installed a blue led, just for the memes 🤣 Great work though by you and the sender, good soldering all around.
That would have been very ironic indeed.
Love the that you took a thoughtful step of placing the microfiber cloth down so not to scratch the top when flipping over to remove the screws
Very cool. As you know, the hot trend is doing voiceless restorations. I always thought your channel would be bigger if you followed suit, but I felt like your speaking in this video really showed your thought process and it greatly enhanced the video. I know this isn’t your full time job, but great job. I hope to see more!
Thanks for watching bud. I'm a little over the whole ASMR thing. I was actually quite influenced by it when I started the channel (my first 10 videos or so are voiceless) but I can't sit through a whole ASMR video any longer, I just get antsy and start skippin ahead.
@@BorderlineOCD this
Those are just generic “restorations” This guy’s the real deal in advanced PCB repair and troubleshooting while actually being informative. 👍
Just turn the sound off. I don’t like the voiceless videos myself. I like to hear what they are thinking and try to learn from them as well.
@@BorderlineOCD I personally think you have a very relaxing voice and listening you speak about the process of what you are doing is very intriguing. Keep the vocals I say 👍💯
you inspired me to finally fix an old gpu that i got scammed a while ago, it had a small capacitor in the pcie lines ripped off, so replace it with a capacitor from a faulty ram module. have to admit i went full dumb yolo cuz people actually told me that was risky to just put a random capacitor on it, but they are those small rectangular ones with no number on it (like the ones you did continuity on this video) and knew nothing about it, but it fitted and have nothing to lose... and actually work it, now i have an R7 370 workin on my pc. thanks for the videos!.
Lol, that was a fateful turn of events for you. I'm glad it worked out.
Another great video. Fantastic diagnosis and repair. Finding the broken trace was great work. I now have learned how to go about solving any RGB problems I may run into with my megadrive. 👍💯⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Glad to hear you found the project informative. Cheers.
Love how organized your setup is. So motivating. Great stuff
I tend to keep things neat, just a tad!
@@BorderlineOCD It's really nice and has been the motivation for me we organizing my entire area. Previously it looked a lot more like Luke Morse's table :) still 75% of yours but I'll keep at it :) thanks for the videos. Between your content and Adrian's basement I've had hours of fixing Mac se's, c64s and SNES systems :)
I really appreciate the way you address your audience while teaching us new things, “so where do start?” About six minutes in. You’re an excellent instructor. This is high quality content.
That second awkward recording position LOL, literally cried, I must've binged watch your entire channel in 2-3 days, life long fan for as long as u upload for sure.
Thanks buddy, I appreciate the support.
Great video and great repair. I am still new to trace repairs and this is a great example
Glad you may have found the repair useful. Happy repairing!
You do really clean work and I love hearing your thought process all throughout. I wish my hands were as steady as yours.👍
Thanks 👍🏻 A little practice goes a long way.
Well done, really have been enjoying your channel, I’ve learned so much from your techniques, I know am feeling more confident in getting into soldering, just bought my first kit!
Excelent video, your explanation about RGB and IC was awesome and in the end it was a broken trace on PCB. Your repair setup also phenomenal, a new subscriptor has arrived.
I was gifted a Model 1 Genesis from a friend a few months back that has a similar issue that I've yet to look into. This video was very informative and might just be the ticket to fixing that. I'll give it a shot. Thanks for the videos, man! These are great!
Awesome to hear. Hope you get your Model 1 up and running.
Great content man! Your camera work with the microscope makes all the difference for someone who's learning.
My man. Your vids make my Saturdays. Appreciate ya
I appreciate that, cheers.
This is a primary example of why recaps should only be done when there's a known problem, rather than to risk creating a problem.
This video is a good tutorial on how to troubleshoot in a way that makes sense
Also great video big fan of the channel
Great repair. Love the videos. Keep them coming!
I am learning so much from your channel! Thank you for great content!
Glad to hear it.
I learned a lot from you and gave me courage to fix my second Sega Saturn Controller. all 6 buttons don't work, i think the only thing that works is the arrow to directions.
Really great video epecially for a beginner like me. I appreciate the way show how you diagnose and fix the faults on these consoles learning alot thanks alot
Glad to hear it. Cheers.
Great job as always! I'm facing similiar issue on neo geo mv2f board, the red colour was missing due to burnt traces and resistors. I have managed to replace the resistors and patch the traces, but it doesn't fixed the issue completely ( the red colour value is much lower then the green and blue)
7:27 With the exposed copper I would have tested for a short between these ttwo traces as well, just in case.
Excellent video, another genesis gets to live for another 30 years
Hello bro! Just finished with school assignments. Long time no see! I am always afraid to work on capacitors. Good job!
Thanks little man, glad you enjoyed the video.
I’ve got a model 2 that has the same issue but had not got to trying to diagnose the problem. This will help me out a lot.
Glad to hear it, good luck fixing your Model 2.
This is the best video I've seen so far. I think trace repair is something of a mystical art when you start to research it. My money was on a flipped cap, but this is something I really learned from. One question: was the iron still at 370 when you soldered the repair conductor? I know it's difficult with short leads to stop the heat from traveling and desoldering the other end
Great repair!
I really, really appreciate your videos. And still I hope to one day get close to your skills, but I haven't started yet. I've got an SNES controller with a wire that snapped, the SNES itself which I would love to get composite signal from since mine is RF only and I got no CRTs, several PS1 controllers with drifting analog sticks and the list goes on and on.
What you said at the end, about the LED mod, I felt like this is the push I needed. I have a few laying around that I scavenged from all sorts of things, might as well use it on the SNES, if only I could get the tools needed to open that guy up.
So again, thank you.
Looking forward to watching this later been ages waiting for a video
Hope you enjoy it ;)
Finally got round to watching this, glad I did. I learned something new. I have this console so if I ever have an issue I will know which areas to look in. Great video again loving these retro console fixes. Will you be doing any commodore 64's in the near future. I have collected consoles since I was 8 and the commodore was my first. Slowly building the collection. In the UK we don't get many exotic consols so refreshing to see consoles I have never seen before ... 👍
Great video as always!
Thanks again!
Great Job bro salutes from Costa Rica
Thanks for watching
Keep up the good work and thanks for another informative video.
The lengths and positions we will go to keep this stuff running. lol
Yes indeed, it is a labor of love!
Great tutorial!
Great video,I repair boards professionally and you do a great job
Thanks 👍
Excellent job!
Thank you very much!
Awesome vid. A Megadrive isn't necessarily worth investing a lot of hours into repairing, but I learnt a lot from your efforts here and enjoyed the vid. And ok, any console we save is worth celebrating :) That game looked really good once you got it fixed too.
Haha true, I'm glad it's still around to offer some enjoyment. Given its recapped already it might just be my go to rig from now on for Genesis games.
Well done! OMG! Awesome work! 👍👍👍
Thank you!
very nice repair
Solid vid. Keep up the good work.
Appreciate it!
So cool I wish I had the knowledge that you have to repair these old consoles I appreciate what you do and maybe someday we can do some business
Another great one sir
Glad you enjoyed it my man.
Another awesome video
Thank you.
Props for finding that jeez
Great video. Thanks !
Good repair. Recapping is something I want to do but not got round to it. Especially on my og xbox
Don't wait on the Xbox. The clock cap problem will only get worse and it's a very quick fix
@@SoWhiteItHurts already had it apart and clock cap is fine. It's just something I want to do.
You can consider starting with a system you don't care too much about, just to get the hang of it. Almost any NES or Genesis Model 1 will benefit from a recap, and I'm starting to come across Model 2's with bad caps so they are around that sweet spot as well.
@@BorderlineOCD cheers. Don't have any of them myself but recently made a friend who is a big collector of console's and I am helping him go through them and to get them working. Capacitors is something we are going to do on them. Making 1 good console from a couple of bad 1's
Great job!
Thanks bud, much appreciated.
"He installed a blue LED mod." Well there's your problem. He replaced the red with blue!
Excellent job! Now you need to take this Genesis, and mod it with a Sega Triple Bypass ;)
Challenge accepted. So many projects. So little time. Argh!
Great Work...
Thanks ✌️
Thx again for this great video. Looking forward to the next one ! A+
Glad you enjoyed it!
neat trace repair :)
Can you comment what the original modder did to expose those traces like that? It's a through-hole component, so why were the traces damaged on the top side?
Edit: I figured it out - I'd guess it was a bad snipping job when removing the old ones
I'm not certain but I guess a sleight of hand with flush cutters.
Great job with awkward positions and all. I have a model 1 and its image blinks between pink and normal, I guess Ill have to trace those rgb lines.
great job
Thanks bud, cheers.
You are a legend.
I'll make sure to tell my wife you said that.
nice job!
Thanks!
Your videos are awesome.
I appreciate that!
If I bought a special capacitor kit I'd expect the leads of the replacements to be the correct pitch.
I really wish that was the case, but I'm unaware of anyone that offers this. I suppose you could do it yourself on Mouser but I'd really only consider that for a rare or exotic console.
Ha!!! I was thinking you were talking about the console itself! Like how the Nintendo 64 or Wii came in different colors!
Trying to keep words to a minimum in the thumbnails, but I suppose it's an odd phrase without the full context.
Not gonna lie I somehow have been looking at traces like they are aliens, having a similar issue with a standard ol megadrive and it all clicked how stuff is tested now. Cheers!
Wow nostalgia this was great on geni
During the 15 second section I spotted it, but honestly at first I thought it was an odd stray dog hair or something until you zoomed in on it. Also, the one side of the RGB chip looked *slightly* corroded too? Or maybe that's just me, and my own OCD 😉 11:10, lower "left" corner, maybe you can see what I mean. Good job on this fix!
Not corrosion, but there is evidence this area was probed with a multimeter previously, likely in the previous owners attempt to figure out the issue.
@@BorderlineOCD You're probably right. Something looked off in that area as opposed to the others, might just need a bit of cleanup.
Que serviço bem feito! Saudações de São Paulo, Brasil.
Obrigado!
Nice repair! I work on arcade PCBs as a hobby and I use "wrapping wire" for trace repair. What wire do you use?
This was just a wire strand from some stranded wire, about 1mm thick. It's non-insulated so it does not replace applications where you would use kynar, wrapping wire, magnet wire, etc.
Had this happen to a sega master system many years ago
Did not know what was going on so I sold it as parts only
The blue light is sick
I enjoy the way you show how u find out things
Suscribed
Excellent video by the way! 👍 Question... what is the proper name for the plastic tool you're using to poke around the board with?
It's called a spudger: amzn.to/35BFiT2
@@BorderlineOCD Awesome! Thank you my friend, and cheers.
@Borderline OCD, wow this is amazing, thank you for the extra view! In my case each time I touch the video cord (Heprkin HDTV Cable) in the area where it connects to my Sega Genesis 2, the colors on the screen get screwed (looks like blueish), or I get the black screen or no sound. Again, if I dont touch the cord, the picture and colors are perfect. Do you happen to know what that could be and how I can fix it?
Maybe the Sega was just blue... da boo dee da boo da. XD
Da ba dee da ba di
@13:54, there is also a missing surface mount capacitor C15 from pin 1 to ground on that IC
C15 is not populated.
Good observation but a few caps are unpopulated (similar to C8).
Soldering a wire from trace to trace is not easy and is something I still struggle with. Even with the cap removed that is still a tight space to work with. I would have removed the high voltage regulator and heat shield to free up some more room.
Now the important question is, how did that trace break like that? Had to have been from human error.
It was a bit awkward, specially recording it but a curved tip really helps so the iron can come in steep from the top and still make good contact.
That was some amazing work there. I love the blue LED mod on this.
BTW, the capture card you use. So you can play games on the PC out of that version of Elgato? With that, does the PC become a monitor aswell?
Capture cards aren't good for actually playing the games. He just needs to see if the signal works, not actually play the game. The capture and the PC adds tok much lag.
@@OnslaughtSix Okay
Yeah buddy I don't use it to game on, although I suppose you could if you really wanted to. It's just handy for testing systems when I have them apart on the bench.
@@BorderlineOCD I see, then it will be a normal capture card then for gameplay
Great video! How do you know how long to cure the nail polish?
It cures very quick under UV, a thin coat in a couple of mins. I just left it for about 10 minutes while I cleared the desk.
@@BorderlineOCD Thank you!
Not trying to sound like a jerk, but was the haircut intentional?
Due to your shirt?
Great fix, as always I find these videos very entertaining as well as educational.
I did my first repair on something I bought. Fixed a genuine ps3 controller.
Hahaha I was waiting for someone to comment on it. Maybe after I grow it out a bit more folks will notice. Yes, I'm going for full-on mullet and embracing my hillbilly roots.
I don't give a shat about electronic reparation but I subscribed bekoz of awkward position.
im wondering about phone mount on boom arm similar to lighted maginfier boom arm 3d print?
My hands are way too shaky to do trace repair. Well, except for solid state pinball driver boards from 70's and 80's since those traces are very thick. I need to find a way to correct it. It's not extreme but my hands do have a slight shake to them.
What brand of soldering iron do you have?
you can buy magnet wire to fix broken traces.
What kind of cable/adapter are using to use your laptop as a TV screen?
This is the one I use for testing: amzn.to/2YM4TT7
Given how small the brake in the trace was, would you not have also considered using one of those conductive ink pens instead?
Never tried them. Could be good for a beginner that doesn't want to use an iron but soldering is a more permanent fix.
I wonder how many realize the “Caps for Sale” reference…
Lol. The core audience of retro nerds here certainly will.
Greetings from Brazil! Could you pls make a video fixing a Sega CD 2 laser reader, which sometimes reads, sometimes not? It will be great! Regards :D
have you ever worked on any Sega CDXs? was curious mine is having issues reading discs, not sure if its laser, caps or both. LMK be willing to send you mine and pay if you can do a good fix on em (or research and learn how to, could make some good bucks since 50/50 of them are seemingly broke or need repair)
I haven't but that would be a cool system to come across at some point! I appreciate the offer but I don't take paid repair jobs.
@@BorderlineOCD what repair jobs do you take?
Solder yoga, you saw it here first!
Were the capacitors replaced because this console was having issues or just future proofing?
Be more proofing, technically those.caps could last potentially for another 20 years.
I'm starting to come across Model 2's more and more that definitely need a recap. Check out my Sega CD video (where I also test a Model 2) and the video was super shaky.
that was incredibly well done, you should be a brain surgeon
cool cool :)
Cheers.
Anyone here had muffled sound from the model 2 genesis that was fixed and clarified by adding a Sega CD and using the audio out from the sega CD?
Blue LED blue tint. Simple electronics… 🤪😜🤓
Duh! Killer diagnosis 👍🏻
SEGA Mega Drive here in the UK btw.
Cheers to you kind sir, thanks for watching from across the pond.
@@BorderlineOCD I always enjoy your videos. Your attention to detail is always spot on, my friend :)
Awesome it was like watching doctor saving a life
I missed my true calling.
The small label on the left of the box shows your address I think. FYI
It's a re-used box with neither my address nor the senders. Observant of you though 👍🏻
The Red is disconnected it seems
I'm having an odd issue I haven't been able to find anywhere. Every game the backgrounds look great. It's only the character that are jumbled up mess of pixels. Sonic looks like a square with random pixels in it and not sonic. Every game is like this but I am unsure of what the issue could be. My first thought is a bad pin that's specific for characters? Ever come across this?
Ah yes, the EmpLemon console. BTW, have you ever needed to replace the power supply for a fat PS2? The only ones I could get my hands on seem to be new old stock from China, and the one I got has horrific coil whine.
Have not. Coil whine isn't a problem, it's just annoying. You can replace the inductor with a shielded one with the same value, or you can hillbilly it and put some hot glue or silicone around it to shield it yourself.
Are you sure this didn't come from the blue alien dude from Blue by Eifel 65? :-p
We must be around the same age. I wanted to put a snippet of Blue in the background as an easter egg to see who would comment about it, but I didn't want to risk a copyright strike.
@@BorderlineOCD haha, that would have bene a nice touch, but yeah, CZcams's copyright system sucks. I've seen other editors try to change the pitch of the song or add a subtle white noise, but your content is great anyway. :)