Only 75,000 Of These Were Made! Let's Restore This One!
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In this video I repair and restore a rare video game console called the SuperGRAFX. This console was a market failure, but that’s what makes it so interesting. This is an extremely thorough restoration that took over 8 hours to complete. Once I’m done with refurbishing the console, it’s better than new!
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#SuperGRAFX #DKOldies #MachoNachoProductions - Hry
There is a MAJOR FLAW with the SuperGRAFX that can cause permanent damage and destroy the console. I made a Short video that shows you how to fix it: czcams.com/users/shortstnYMmAxoOXY
Thank you to everyone who notified me of this issue and how to fix it!
Bro just grab some solder with the tweezers so you don't have to set stuff down an pick something else up.
I love that we're not forgetting that DKO is the scum of the Earth.
DKO the kid's game? What are you talking about?
@@Phoenixflame87 DK Oldies. They're a video game resell store from Pennsylvania with super shady business pract
ices. They claim to refurbish their consoles but don't. They charge outrageous prices for these dusty, dying systems and then send cheap 3rd party controllers and cables with them.
What are you talking about?
Omg, the burn on DkOldies. I love it
DKOldies...those f's
One piece of criticism/advice on the refurb: Please, please file off a bit of the plastic peg in the centre of the console. Over time it pushes on the PCB and will produce cracks over time. It is absolutely not needed in holding the console together and no SGX refurbishment should be complete without. You'll thank me later :P
I did mine a few years ago and it still works amazing as my main PCE system :D
I did that to mine when I saw @SmokeMonster tweet about it in 2018. You don't even need to cut the whole peg off, I filed it down half way and it was enough for it to no longer reach the PCB. ✌
I saw the warning back when it first started circulating (thanks, Smoke!) but I couldn’t bring myself to do it. I had my SGX so long and baby it when taking it out of the box but it feels like a tank. It looks brand new, even at the “problem” area, and has no pressure there at all. I can’t even see how it’s possible to put enough pressure there deliberately since there is no flex in this thing and the top is not flat. I almost feel like what happened to him (and maybe one other?) was some kind of fluke.
temperature is a huge factor in the life of electronics. Things expand and contract depending on temperature. This can cause the plastic housing to shift over time. I’m guessing yours has been kept pretty temperature stable over the years? @@emmettturner9452
@@emmettturner9452Exactly this. Not a single "mechanical engineer" or anyone in that background with professional experience has backed up this claim haha. For that matter, no one has done any pressure or flex tests. Someone in the modding community cried the sky is falling, and it spread through out the retro community. Someone showed a cracked PCB.. yeah, if you place heavy crap or drop heavy crap on the system bad stuff is going to happen haha.
The support is there for the downward pressure when putting in a hucard. Without it, the board WILL flex. the PCB is NOT supposed to dynamically flex like that (i.e. the absence of the standoff). There's no "constant pressure" being applied to the board. I have 3 SGX systems, and one from when I got it 1993.. this was never an issue and still isn't an issue. This is just people parroting some modder that incorrectly made the assumption that it causes damage over time. I even saw one guy trying to claim a golf-ball sized hole at the top of the SGX case was to blame for the standoff support!!! When clearly some dumbass clearly dropped a hammer or something on it haha.
It's 2024 and people are still telling people to remove the standoff. I mean if they're THAT paranoid.. then check the clearance and shave a few thousandths off it.. but don't remove it! Without it, there's no support in the middle of the board where you insert the hucard.. and THAT could potentially cause damage over time because now it flexes. I swear, people will parrot anything from people that aren't qualified to make assessments.
@@TurboXraySmokeMonster's is the only case Ive ever seen Cracked like that and IMO there is no way that happened with normal use. I think at some point that console was dropped or something dropped on it heavy enough with enough force in the center it cracked the board. My personal machine is fine but out of precaution I snipped the post off and also run a Super SD System 3 on it rarely using the Hu Card slot anyway. If I did it'd be with an Everdrive. I use a TG16 as my daily anyway. The SGFX is too special to daily. Still, I don't see this as a Sky is Falling issue like many others do.
Your installation style is done with such surgical precision and cleanliness that I feel disgusted when I look at my own mods in comparison 😂 Seriously though, your work is inspirational to how well done our work should be. Incredible work Tito!
Thank you so much 🙏
I love the amount of care you show in this. I see so many electronics CZcamsrs working on classic electronics and really not showing the proper practice. You take your time and work carefully. Very nice video, I've got mad respect.
Thank you dude! I appreciate that!
Seeing you adding grease with the syringe and toggling the switch on and off while having the sexy saxophone in the back is definitely an experience in itself. 😄 Great video mate! I'm shocked that this console only had 5 games, this must have been quite the failure at the time.
So glad you enjoyed the restoration! Th switches are often neglected but they do wear over time. Cheers!
the console was overly expensive to produce and NEC didn't know what they were doing. they proved that by refusing to license franchises that were popular in NA. though I had hoped the SuperGrafx would have gotten more games than it did. the problem was an NEC problem more than anything else
When I was in Japan last month, I saw a Super Grafx in the junk bin at a store. It was still about $200 so I passed. Hope you were able to get a better deal.
That’s about what I paid for mine. It came with a controller, av, and power cables
@@MachoNachoProductionsthis didnt seem to have anything but a banged up console. It looked pretty rough.
You can't find them for less than that these days even as junk. I know because I've been looking.
Low end of the range is around 20,000 yen or 130 USD at the current exchange rate for "junk". Tested and working is much more, over double.
This weeks video was extra relaxing. I really enjoyed the long jazz segments of cleaning/recapping/etc.
It warms my heart to see the Super Grafx shown in such nice lighting and production. It's still my favourite looking console and I can remember fawning over it and the PC Engine at the back of video games magazines when I was a kid. Thank you for looking after it.
Loved to see some of your new tools in this video - your studio really feels like a bonafide electronics repair shop. And as always, amazed as to how you get great shots while doing such clean work - I can barely solder without a camera in my way!
That is not a console, that is a Doom keycard
Oh wow, I've never seen a "tweezer" soldering iron before - so cool, and must be a real time saver too!
I’ve just started using it, I think it will be a good investment over time. It has limited application but so far it been a great tool. Want to try and remove surface mounted caps with it next
Time saver yes, wallet engraver too!
Watching you clean off that flux was super satisfying.
The relaxing music also helped.
While I have no desire to restore or mod a SuperGRAFX for just 5 games, it was nice to see your process on doing this. Seeing the tools and chemicals you use to get the job done informs me on how to improve my own modding and restoration process.
The music is an added calming effect that's sorely needed because there's literally a finite number of these in the world and holy crap if I were working on one I would be SO NERVOUS. Bravo Tito and enjoy your excruciatingly limited library of titles. 🙃
I don't own a PC Engine SuperGrafx, nor do I need to mod one, yet this is a fascinating watch and relaxing to see you lovingly restore this console.
shots fired at DK lol nice
I always listen to smooth jazz when I tear down my consoles.
Such a satisfying watch and excellent workmanship, thank you for sharing! Loved the music too.
This is the most relaxing mod video I have ever watched. Great video, as always!
I'd add just a tiny bit of good quality thermal paste between a voltage regulator and a heat sink.
AMAZING RESTORATION/MOD! 😎🍻
You don't need the click bait title! The channel is too good for that!
Not really clickbait, I’ve never heard of it lol
@@Veggiephill fair comment!
I really enjoy videos and how you never take any shortcuts. This was another great and entertaining video. I amazed each week how you keep finding cool and interesting things to fix and modify. Can't wait to see the retro computer that you got from Japan up and working.
I actually was just thinking about this console yesterday
Love to see stuff like this. Super Grafx is such a weird system. Look at that weird looking thing!
Great video as always. It would also have been a good idea to replace the 7805 with a newer one. That and snipping the center post that tends to damage the traces on the PCB leading to the HuCard slot.
Oh man, that’s a great suggestion! I didn’t know that about the post. Is it the center post on the bottom shell?
@@MachoNachoProductions yes that is the culprit. Ive seen more than a few Supergrafx consoles with a cracked pcb resulting from a small drop due to that standoff.
@@MachoNachoProductionsI see that no matter what I try my comment linking to SmokeMonter's twitter post does not get posted. It would be nice for the pics but indeed, that is the offending post. Replacing the 7805 is something that A3rgan advises as it seems the NEC ones tend to go supernova with time.
On this subject, I was wondering about this component if the addition of thermal paste would not have been welcome?
But apart from this detail, I congratulate you once again for your meticulous work.
It's super clean! 👌
I believe there is a thermal pad on there.@@sylvainc8146
Love the jazz - and the NEC console! This was awesome, thanks.
So glad you enjoyed it 🙏
You've outdone yourself with this one! It was a pleasure to watch. Thank you!
I wish I had even 1/3 of the shred of talent you have when it comes to these projects. Nice job!
As a big fan of the PC Engine I'm definitely familiar with this console. Shame so few exclusive games were released for it.
Superb quality and care went into your work. Well done. Beautiful mod and restoration.
Thank you! 🙏
I always liked the look of the SuperGrafx. It's got quite a charm to it.
Fun fact: the HuC6280A not only contains the CPU, but it also has a sound generator. 6 channels of wavetable synthesis and the last two channel can produce white noise. The "A" signifies a newer revision of the chip, which is supposed to fix the audible click that happened when switching wavetables on the original HuC6280.
Very satisfying to watch. Much love.
26:57 I wish you would have given the game cards a bit more screen time!
To me, credit-card-sized game cards is probably the coolest form of physical game media.
Solid state and durable, big enough to hold firmly in your hand, but slim enough to be easily pocketable. I mean, just imagine how cool it would have been at the time to have trading cards that you can pop into a console and start playing full 16-bit games.
Always with the BEST CONTENT for gamers and collectors!!! Thank you and keep it up!!
Thank you so much! Glad you enjoy the videos! 🙏
There is a screw pole (in the middle area) on the lower case that needs to be trimmed a couple of mm because it puts stress on the pcb that eventually causes it to crack. Look it up.
I bought mine in France when it came out in 1990.
Nice!
Nice choice of music, thoroughly relaxing 😌
I always think 'car engine' when I see this console.
Same here! It’s the only pc engine, that looks like an engine 😅
This is the first time I've seen someone using 303 for something non-automotive. I like my games and cars from about the same era so I have used 303 before on my cars with awesome results, I always wondered if it could be used on vintage game console plastics to help protect them from UV fading, especially on beige consoles like the Dreamcast or old CRT monitors. Seems like I'm not the first one with this idea...
I always look forward to watching your videos. The music 🎶 was a great touch classy 😅
Yeah the music and content are gold. Instant subscribe. Edit: *poured a whiskey*
Every Super Grafx I've worked is caked in old flux. It's the stickiest! Great video!
That ultrasonic cleaner looks like you're deep frying the motherboard, and i love it.
😂 haha true
Not only do I know about it, but it has consistently been my most-wanted console of all time. I just never got around to getting one. I just play the games on my MiSTer. I still consider grabbing a real one from time to time, recapping it, and doing some mods. Still, definitely not a forgotten item. It's a gorgeous piece of work internally and externally IMO! Too bad about the library, but still an amazing piece. Nice video! Love watching your channel and Voultar. Great work!
A beautiful video, and that background music, sung waves of the past of big band music to my soul. Beautiful.
You are an artist. Amazing work.
The music in this video has a Leland Palmer from Twin Peaks dancing by himself vibe
I swear, the only jazz I listen to is with retro tech videos. You and LGR have me feeling all doo boo beep bap boo.
Although I'll never perform half the mods on your channel, I still learn a lot of technique from you, and these videos are just so darn satisfying!
EDIT: Love the shoutout to DKoldies! 🤣
Thank you so much! I’m so glad that you find them helpful! Definitely enjoyed making this one. It was really satisfying getting it all cleaned and serviced 👍
amazing transformation from start to finish!
I love how the music sounds like a Barnes and Noble on the Upper West Side during Christmas.
The most gorgeous looking console ever, now with an awesome restoration and mods. My 2nd most wanted console ever when I was a kid... The cherry would have to be a Konix Multisystem with a Macho Nacho restoration, I desperately wanted both these consoles when I was a kid. Such a pity the Konix never made it to market :(
I really appreciate the shake-up with the music choice
I don’t know what I enjoyed more, the smooth jazz or the shots fired at DK Oldies
If I ever get cursed and reincarnated as an aged video game console, I sure hope Tito is the one who buys me.
SuperGrafx. The beginning of the end for NEC as a console manufacturer. I've seen one of these just once in my entire life. Plays a pretty good game of 1941, though!
I heard about it when the magazines reported it back in '89 or so. I'm still annoyed as this had at least enough power to out-perform the Mega Drive, but NEC just gave up on it just a year later or so and we never got to see what it could have been. I wouldnt mind having one but cannot really justify the price for only a couple of games worth playing. Nice to watch this though, thanks!
Beautiful work! Does the supergrafx play regular pc engine games too?
Very elegant mod. Great Job.
Wow an absolutely amazing video 🫡👍
So in Japan the PC Engine outsold the MegaDrive and NES which is a wild thought.
Though the SNES turned the tables on them again thereafter.
Such a cool piece of hardware, wish they'd stuck around longer.
Edit for clarification, I know the PC Engine is different to the PC Engine SuperGRAFX, I just refer to it as such for the sake of ease.
I love PC Engine, it was a great console. It's a pity there wasn't any "clones" (on a scale of Famicom or Megadrive clones) back at the day and no modern clones or PCB re-iterations like with those consoles. If I'd ever plan to build my custom console with PCB and components, that would definitely be PC Engine (I hope such project appears someday)
There's the analogue that recently hit, but its pricey for a clone
@@Teknoman Yeah I heard of it, but if I understand correctly it's based on FPGA, and not exactly a clone but rather smart hardware emulation.
I was thinking more about a modern clone like those countless NES\MD\GB projects reviewed on this channel, when you transplant original chips (or use alternatives if possible) on the new PCB.
There was a Korean “clone” but it’s probably the most rare pc engine out there 😅
@@MachoNachoProductions Haitai Vistar? it's basically Turbographx 16 from the same parts as the original but with different case
Awesome restoration
I've never seen this console before. It looks really nice after all that work!
The music makes watching Tito disassemble the console feel more like a disrobing….and I like it.👀
Great video ty for the content!
You spent more time cleaning it than most people who own one have spent playing it
Hello, I and I think many other people would really enjoy and appreciate restorations of other consoles like, gamecube snes, sega dream cast etc.
Nice DKO burn at the start. Love your videos
a master at work, I'm not there yet, but I hope to exhibit the same level of skill in my own projects one day.
I like the new music.
Very nice video. I regret you did not explain more in details what the mod changes to the console or maybe I didn't listen well.
This style video was so refreshing and lovely to watch. Thanks for all your hard work to get out amazing videos Tito.
Ps. I want to see a work station tour video please 🙏🏻
I really loved making this video and have quite a few other obscure consoles I want to repair and restore so stay tuned for more videos like this 👍. Glad you enjoyed it! I definitely want to make a work station tour video. Coming soonish 😅
I finished the complete refurbish of my £4 Xbox One Phat today, absolutely pristine inside and out and just been Forza'ing about this evening on FH5, first real console rebuild since I modded my Gamecube. Now to strip my Switch down to repair the dock filters and all golden gravy :)
Xbox one for £4 wtf
Great video as always! I have heard of these before though. :P
It's also compatible with the CD add-on and the other library of PC Engine's Hucard games.
interesting, informative, cool, relaxing. great vid.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Ohhh snap!!! DKOldies got served!!! Lololol😂
You could do longer ASMR repair videos with leftover footage on a side channel. I’d watch that.
feels like a LGR video with the smooth jazz
Looks good. Now it is ready to play some Yo, Bro! and Camp California.
i really appreciate the change in music.
I'd like to say thank you for not trigging me a zillion times like 99% of soldering videos.
22:13
DANG OKAY MR.WELDER
Top notch video!
Regarding the sticker on the bottom. I have actually put mine into the dishwasher for 3 hours and the only thing happening to the sticker was that it became a little brighter shade of white. Surprisingly resilient little sicker.
Came back just to say I heard Bob plug your short about the SuperGrafx fix. You both do good work!
excellent touch with this song
Glad you liked the music!
I had one, back in the days in order to connect to the CD-ROM unit you needed a special adaptor with cable to plug into the back, awkward but did the trick, too bad NO Super Graphics CDROM games were ever made, this also reminds me of the PCE Shuttle ;)
There was also a special flight stick (yolk) made for Battle Ace
Thank you for your video ❤
Thanks for watching!
thank you, master
Wow that was a seriously in-depth restoration and modding job for such a....limited console! I am impressed with your work ethic, I certainly would have skipped the ultrasonic treatment and just given the mobo an IPA bath, let alone the extensive video mod job! New sub for sure.
Any need for paste on the voltage regulator? Also I worry about the bond of the upside down din to adapter plate with repeated use. I used some paste flux to try and get a stonger bond on mine.
I love my Turbonanza on my TG-16 followed the video you made for it. Easy to follow and worked flawlessly. Thank you!
I’ve thought about putting some thermal paste on the regulator to the heat sink but it’s not necessary. I actually think I may just do it though 😅. I think the bond for the new din connector is pretty strong but agree it’s not as strong as a through hole design. Just definitely be careful when plugging in the ab cable. So glad you found the turbonaza video helpful 🙏 cheers dude!
@MachoNachoProductions its probably not super necessary. but I used MG Chemicals 860 Silicone Heat Transfer Compound on mine and Ive been using the same bottle of it for a few years with no issues. It was recommended by a vintage AV repair channel I watch.
I’m so glad I have this system
That was a good DK oldies, joke by the way lol
Nice vidio, Tito!
I noticed you've upgraded your soldering equipment to Hakko's newest line since your last "tools" video.
How do you like them? Any that are worth the upgrade over the previous models?
Hey! I did just recently change my setup and really love the new station! I was actually perfectly happy with my prior setup but unfortunate my old station didn’t support hot tweezers. The new FX-972 supports hot tweezers which I think will be useful and make some future mods/repairs easier. Cheers!
@@MachoNachoProductions Oh rad! Good to know! I bought a cheaper set of hot tweezers awhile back, and I'm not as impressed with them!
I'd love an updated "tools" video sometime! To go more in-depth with that new stuff! :D
Really? Who hasn't heard of SuperGrafx??????
Never heard of it. I had a Turbo Grafx 16......
Never seen anyone else use 303. Been using it on my cars interior for like 20 years.
I always wanted the Super Grafx. But it's high price doesn't justify it's library of 5 games. Still looks really cool. Looks like a mothership out of an old Sci Fi Anime.
You didn't trim or address the suicide post, the one in the middle of the board, can cause the board to crack.
I just saw another comment about this. Will definitely need to address! Thanks for the heads up 👍
Use the fiberglass pen for finishing up when you remove solder mask (scrape the bulk off with something else). Goes a lot quicker, wastes less of its fiberglass material, and isn’t going to damage the surrounding traces when the ones you are targeting are already mostly eat. You’d be surprised by how much more effective the fiberglass pen is at removing solder mask even with a few scrapes from a screwdriver. After going through my first fiberglass pen much too quickly many years ago, I began doing it this way and now I’m barely start going through my fiberglass refill.
I typically use a selection of drill bits, screwdrivers, razor blades, hobby knives, and metal spudgers before the fiberglass pen. It ends up being faster and cleaner with more control.
Oh yeah: I use a pick to scribe the perimeter too. Sometimes it’s all I use the break up the solder mask before bringing out the fiberglass pen. It just looks like a few scrapes in the mask but even breaking it up a little before breaking out the glass pen works great!