The Politics of Diagnosis w Leon Brenner. The Birth of Diagnosis: Foucault’s History of Madness

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It is not uncommon today to meet a person in a psychoanalytic context who desires a diagnosis. And indeed, some people spend a lot of time and earn large sums of money by providing subjects with the signifiers of diagnoses. One can say that “Diagnosis” is a name of an industry and, wherever there is an industry, there are desiring subjects willing to pay. In this workshop we will explore notions pertaining to diagnosis in the social and political context.
Session 1 - The Birth of Diagnosis: Foucault’s History of Madness
A brief examination of Foucault’s argument in his History of Madness. What is the structuralist view on the birth of the discourse on mental illness? What is the difference between being psychotic and having psychosis?

[@conor3754]

I really loved this whole seminar. The reading list for it was so well put together. Every text was eye opening, especially Brenner's! So accessible, just brilliant and masterful. And, of course, the group sessions are a revelation!
11/10 no notes. Onwards, SGoPaP!

[@psychoanalyticthinking153]

look forward to watching, will share on the groups

[@afs4185]

Excellent. Was there a part 2?

[@kerycktotebag8164]

the ABA sessions I've been through seem worse in retrospect bc I was too socially naïve to have a "hey, this is kinda f•cked up" moment while it was happening.
for instance, i didn't know that my behavior in the parking lot (prior to and after a session) was being recorded using pathologizing language.
and that any time i talked about a trigger, as if in talk therapy, it was being notated whether or not i was "stopping a topic when [the ABA practitioner] appears bored", which to me actually seems like a screwed up expectation to place on me in that setting, not that i have zero idea when someone is bored.
this reminds me of the distinction between societies of discipline versus societies of control, but this changes the "shape" of the abject (or dejected/rejected/ejected), non‐normative, by psychology standards, portion made up of excluded people into one that's rather autism‐shaped, bc it's one of the major "diagnoses of exclusion" after ruling everything else out.

[@supine2491]

Patreon link is broken. Where do you go for the goods?
Also, Brenner is a rock star!

[@emancipations]

No way! It is here www.patreon.com/posts/politics-of-with-68407492

[@kerycktotebag8164]

i've been referring to allistic (non‐autistic) ppl as "having neurotic‐enough subjectivity to not get an autism diagnosis when screened".
but i do think autism is its own thing, but the "spectrum" of autism overlaps with the "neurosis spectrum" so to speak, but when diverged enough from it, leads to the double empathy problem.
psychosis seems separate from both, but orthogonal to the neurotic-autistic axis, so to speak.
i can't make myself neurotic-any non normative behaviour i present isn't motivated by, and couldn't complete the neurotic circuit, of obsessionality or hysteria, even if i wanted to-but i can become psychotic under extreme distress. I think my "quasi neurotic skills" I've learned stave off such psychosis or at least avoid a meltdown, so that's why i like the way brenner positions psychosis versus autism versus neurosis/allism.
quasi neurotic skills were also my last resort, and really only help when I'm surrounded by allistic ppl, so hearing that neurosis and allism are the same thing makes sense.
"quasi" in this case refers to how i "mask" and "assimilate", essentially bridging my side of the double empathy problem.
allistic ppl should be able to bridge their side, but they'd have to practice quasi autistic skills.
i refer to my non‐allistic, non neurotic but not psychotic, traits and "circuit" as autistic subjectivity, and am thinking of another word that ends in "-otic"/"-tic" lol

[@shantiharris2996]

His volume was down, couldn't hear a word he said. Had to stop watching after 1 minute. Would have loved to hear his discussion. 😢

[@emancipations]

Sorry to hear that. Please try it from another device. It works for others.

[@shantiharris2996]

@@emancipations ok, will do. Thank you.