Comparing Four Pottery Wheels in the $150 to $750 Range
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In this video I compare four of the pottery wheels: the Clay Boss from Speedball, the Shimpo Aspire, a cheap orange pottery wheel from Amazon, and another budget pottery wheel from Amazon. In this video I give the pros and cons of each and make my recommendations of Best Pottery Wheel Value, Best Pottery Wheel for Production and Reliability, and Best Pottery Wheel for Portability.
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Your shop looks like my shop. 3d printers, pottery wheels, laser engravers, stained glass, just tons of crap everywhere. I love it.
haha. Thanks Noah. Yeah I guess we like to make stuff! :). Thanks for dropping in -mj
Just came from your previous video! This actually answered my question and helped a lot. Thank you!
You bet Megan! I'm glad it helped. Let me know if you have other questions. -mj
I appreciate how thorough this review is. I also love the bit of configuration chat so you have a new subscriber. Thanks for the info!
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it and thanks for the encouragement! Let me know if you have any other questions. -mj
thanks so much for this overview of the more affordable range of wheels. new potter, finally started classes this summer through at a local art center's scholarship. the barriers to entry are real, but the pottery community on youtube is so knowledgeable and generous! i'd love to have a wheel to continue practicing at home. grateful for this + your stack & slam/wire wedging video - saved my wrists!
Thanks Anya! I'm glad these videos helped. I've had the same experience with the pottery community - so humble and generous - online and in person. Thanks for your encouragement! -mj
Thank you! I didn't even know the inexpensive wheels were available. When I was browsing they generally started at twice the price listed here - or more. Thanks for the tips, too... Yes, I think the manual controls would be much more reliable (and easy to manage with clay hands) than any sort of digital button set up. I found one of the 3 legged versions you have there - push button/ manual control, and foot pedal. I like that they take up less space than the first model - that I could store supplies under it when not in use, etc - a real consideration when living/ working in smaller spaces. The wheel literally cost as much as a 4 week class where I live. Especially as a beginner, being able to put the hours in throwing is invaluable in accelerating the learning process - not to mention studio times are often limited - and cost money as well, lol.
I started out on the little red wheel on the right. It's fine for learning on, the pedal works fine and it spins fast enough. But I found myself limited very quickly by the amount of weight you can center on it. It does up to 1kg just fine, 1,5kg had it struggle a little bit, and trying to center 2kg has made it make weird noises. Also, the on/off switch broke after only a few months. It was easily fixed but the electronics on those wheels are a little questionable. If you really wanna try pottery but you can't afford a "real" wheel they're great, as long as you stick to small stuff. I've now switched to a kickwheel (that I got for the low low price of free) and I honestly prefer it even to the proper heavy duty electric wheels we use at school.
hey what do you like better about the kickwheel? :)
I ordered the 2nd one, with the 3 legs and the touch screen, with a foot pedal on discount from Vevor for less than 90 Euros and while other, more expensive wheels are surely better, for less than 90 I really couldn't resist as it seriously lowered the level of entry. From what I understood from various videos, for hobyyist/beginners, you really can't go wrong with 'm :D
Very helpful videos. Thanks!
you bet!
Thanks for the info! I have the Artista from speedball.
I have had it for a long time but actually haven't used it. I mostly do handbuilding. The wheel seems a little intimidating to me
I get that, and i think it was for me as well. I remember being in Malacca, Malaysia on holiday with my family and watching a potter throw on the wheel - feeling that way. something shifted for me though at the end of 2017. I bought my first commercial wheel, and it became a time of prayer/ centering/ meditation... I don't know really know what it was but it was good for me on the inside! It was less about the results and much more about getting quiet. Anyway, I would love for everyone to experience that. It has been such a gift for me in my journey. I would love to see some of your hand building work!
Thank you for this video!
I used the blue one in my pottery class in high-school. Always thought it came with a stand, but I guess that was courtesy of my teacher. Great video
Thank you. Yeah that was probably courtesy of your instructor. I usually just set it on top of a black storage bin.
Thank you for the info đ
Any time!
Thank you for your insights! I got the 2nd one without touchscreen for $129 on Amazon and it came in 48 hours. Very easy to set up and I was throwing in no time. The Wheel was scrapping on the bowl a little bit, but I was able to adjust a couple screws and well, wore down some plastic and no no rubbing! The 28cm or 11inch wheel does not come with the metal thingys to hold bats, but I found I could use some clay under my speedball bats and keep a tight fit. I did find a video on how to drill and install screws to hold bats.... I figured I would do that once I knew i wasn't sending it back. I'm impressed with the unit and it surpasses my skill level so it is perfect for today. I never would have dropped $500 or more on a new hobby, but this was an easy spend and I was suprised that it feels so similar to the Speedball I use at the studio. I'm sure it is nothing similar (to Speedball) in terms of longterm- but for me, and my level of clyinders, mugs, bowls etc, its more than I need. Really appreciate your videos, information and products!
I just got two and the wheel head is scraping the nubbins that hold the splash pan together. What did you adjust to fix this?
Thanks. Really helpful. East to follow & understand. Hit some of my queries. Excited.
Hey man. I haven't done pottery in many years, but I was a production potter. Looking for a good cheap wheel to build an inventory, so I appreciate your reviews. Just signed up to get your pdf.
Anyway, I haven't dug into your channel yet, but I can see some things I could help you improve on with 4 words. Lol. Those words are : chucks, foam bats, and pointers. At the pottery, we'd trim almost exclusively with hand thrown chucks or foam bats. Chucks for bottle forms, and foam for everything from mugs to 30" platters. Then to throw consistent pieces that match, we'd use a sharpened wooden dowel stuck into a ball of clay. If you're a right handed individual, we'd place the pointer around the 10 o'clock position. Bring it up and in to point to the rough hight and width of the piece you're trying to replicate. Hope that helps. Cheers
What type of foam did you use for the bats? Did you just attach them with slip?
@@glennr9913 we had wooden bats with 1/4" & 1/2" foam. I think they just used an adhesive of some sort. The maintenance guys made custom stuff for us potters. I think our bats were made of some sort of pressed board? We'd start out in the morning throwing a disk maybe 8-10 inches wide, and about 3/4" thick. Then we'd make 3-4 grooves with our finger (like Atlantis) then pull out from the center at 12, 3, 6, and 9 o'clock. Then just wet the top of the disk and tap a bat down. Foam bats were the same. It's hard to explain. Almost looked like the Zodiac killers sign.
Hello, we love your videos - they are so helpful to us as beginner potters. You mention at the end of this video that you have resources on setting up a home studio. Is there a link please?
Hello, great review ! I'm about to buy the SHimpo Aspire but I can't chose between the pedal or the manual Is it better to buy the pedal directly ? Is it more convenient ? And if I buy the manual could I buy a pedal later or do we need to buy an other wheel ?
with that little first one, i made a sorta grid out of cardboard, to stop it from wobbling, i made four little holders and taped it to my table, and it stopped the uneven-ness so mcuh
Thank you! that helped me a lot! :)
That's great to know. Thanks for saying that Roi. -mj
Amazing video!!!
Thank you Monique! I really appreciate that. -mj
Such a great review Thank You!
Love your videos ! Where did your purchase your Shimpo wheel ? Thx
Thanks Hazel! I got my first shimpo aspire in Ipoh, Malaysia from a kiln maker named Mr. Lim. In Texas I got two more shimpo aspires in Fort Worth from American Ceramics. Great people! Armadillo Clay in Austin and Trinity Clay in Dallas also have a lot of pottery supplies if you're in Texas.
@@OutpostPottery Thank you !
I have the orange wheel and it seems like it goes from quick to super fast. I'm relatively new to ceramics, so maybe it's my ignorance, but I wish it had the option to spin a bit slower for trimming purposes.
Hi there all, I just wanted to come on here to say that I got the wheel suggested in this video and was really sadly disappointed. The wheel was not centered and so I couldn't produce a centered pot. I am not sure if you receive commision for people who buy using the links you provide, but I just want to say I disagree with the review :( And just to let people know it may be worth it to buy from a company that in name brand. Thanks for the info!
I'm really sorry to hear about your experience with this wheel Anna! Sincerely. I have had people complain about similar things on this thread as many people have purchased "duds" of this product that have been defective. I would try to take it back asap if you are able. that's one of the good things about Amazon where these wheels are most often purchased. I have two of these orange wheels and then the other gray budget wheel and they are all in good working order right now - two are actually on loan to students so they can get practice at their houses. Really sorry to hear about your experience though and I affirm that it does happen with this wheel sometimes. Hope you get another wheel that works well for you. -mj
Wich wheel did you buy?
I got the orange one and it was awful and had a thudding under it as it spun
Don't mention which fuckin wheel your talking about. What are you? Competition?
You gotta pay attention to other peoples reviews as well. Itâs honestly a coin toss with the inexpensive wheels and all he could do was speak on his experience
could you turn them on in your videos so we can see how smoothly they spin?
thanks for the videos! it's really given me more confidence to try out the amazon ones. Just wondering do you prefer the hand crank or the ones with the foot pedal on a wire?
i prefer the hand crank for beginners - and even for myself often now too. Where the hand crank is not as good is when you are "throwing off the hump." You kind of need to use your feet for that but otherwise the hand crank is just fine. that's my opinion anyway :) thanks for asking oopsie li! -mj
Looking for some pottery for my kid and
You have everything I want to know
yay! Wonderful. I'm so glad. Let me know if you have questions. I'm not on here a lot but woudl love to be a resource where I can! -mj
Thank you
you bet!
Is the Shimpo Aspire pretty sturdy on a table? Iâm wanting a wheel that has pins but the last wheel is a little pricey for me.
Yes, it is!! I saw this one at a ceramic store and was blown away with how sturdy it was. Itâs also smaller than it looks in videos!! Thatâs a good thing if you have very limited space. I wish I had the money to blow on this one as a second wheel just for taking outside. Itâs so easy and portable. I got a shimpo VL lite and am still waiting on it to arrive. Itâs been on back order. Iâm familiar with this wheel since itâs the one Iâve used in college courses. The aspire is around $550 and the VL-Lite is about $750 so I decided to just get the larger one, since itâs not that much more. The VL lite is only 50 pounds in weight so Iâm hoping I can move it around a bit.
I found a wheel exactly like the second one you showed but instead of a touch screen, it had manual buttons and such. Would you recommend something like that? Thank you for the video!
absolutely i would. if i had found that i would have purchased it. that would be a better product i think. Thanks Allie! -mj
would you be able to share the link please!
Please share the brand and name!
@@emmahinterberger5774 look up Mophorn Pottery Wheel 25CM Pottery Forming Machine 350W Electric Wheel for Pottery with Foot Pedal
@@Emma-jw4wi Mophorn Pottery Wheel 25CM Pottery Forming Machine 350W Electric Wheel for Pottery with Foot Pedal
Hello! Do you recommend the cheaper wheels to give pottery classes? I mean for the students. Are they ok after one year of use? Thank you
yes. They are great for beginners. I give lessons and loan them out to students because they ar ea great way to get your feet wet and get started without breaking the bank. -Hope that helps! -mj
The Shimpo does not fit the standard normal batts, The plastic ones are terrible, warps easily. You can buy the 10" Masonite Throwing Bat for Shimpo Aspire at most clay stores. High back end, limits plate and bowl sizes. It's very portable. Great for throwing outside. Or taking it on the road. Can be put on a dinning room table for stand up throwing. Or any table about that high.
Great machi
I heard the Aspire was single direction only?
Would you please review airgoo wheel?
could you send a link? I'd love to look at it, though I probably wont buy one. Thanks Merve! -mj
any idea where I can buy a replacement for the circuit board of one of these wheels?
hmmm. I'm not sure Geo. I haven't cracked it open to see the circuit board - nor would I really know what i was looking at if i did. Sorry I cant be of more help to you there! :(. Geo Tjakra - seperti orang jakarta ya? Mungkin tanya Dr. Ponimin atau Mas Syarifuddin di Malang. Dulu Pak Ponimin mengajar keramic di UM dan dia ada sebuah studio di Batu. Mas Syarif, dia kanal banyak orang di dunia seni rupa di Indonesia. Mungkin salah satu mereka ada kontak yg tau. - sorry if my grammar is bad :). It's been a few years since I did that :). Thanks Geo! I love Indonesia. Thanks for dropping by! -mj
@@OutpostPottery no problem, thanks.
Can anyone direct me to the setting up your own studio course mentioned in the video? I can't find it. Thank you!
My bad Lori. I never made that course. I intended to but never got to it. How can i help you. what kind of a space are you setting up?
You are a wonderful man,
Thank you đ for you valuable data
The 2 to the right have no bats or bat pins, how do you use them with no bats? Thanks!
Hi Illy. You can either remove the vessel each time you throw, or you can throw on a clay paddy with a tile bat on top. That's what I do when i don't have bat pins. Sorry it took me so long to reply :( -mj
@@OutpostPottery Thank you! Appreiate you!
I want to get into pottery but don't want to buy a kiln is there any way around this?
Yes! Dont' buy a kiln yet :). It might sound silly and no, you wont be able to fire things on your own but the first 6 months or so you're just learning the art of throwing on the wheel. (I'm assuming you're wanting to start throwing since the video is about wheels). What i did was get a wheel first. Learned the basics. Grew in the basics. Has a wall of shelves full of those mugs and pots i thought were worthy of firing. Then I found a studio on the other side of the island i was living on who had a kiln and they fired for me. Depending on where you are you can probalby find someone who can fire for you or where you can fire at their studio. This is actually a great setup if you have access to one. Alternative, waiting to buy the kiln can confirm your own commitment to yourself before you lay down $1500 or so for a kiln. I wouldnt' buy the kiln for at least a few months. Hope that helps, Anthony! Keep me updated! -mj
I bought one of these too, when my plate comes into contact with water and clay it releases a bit of black liquid, is this normal? it looks like iron powder that melts
I think I remember that happening at one point. But I don't notice it now. Is it still doing that Bosch after a few days of use? -mj
This happened to me at my throwing class last week, the instructor said it was from the aluminum of the wheel and pressing down really hard, some wheels do it some don't.
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Do any of these wheels have places to put bat pins in so you can use a bat?
Hey Laura. Yes, the Clay Boss has normal 10" center bat pins. The Aspires have bat pins as well but they are shorter - a little less than 6" apart. The two wheels you get from Amazon don't have bat pins. I hope that helps! -mj
Hi Laura! My old Shimpo wheel didn't have built in bat pins, either. But it's actually an easy fix to drill them in yourself. Takes about an hour or so. What I did was start with a bat that has standard pin holes. Most new ones you buy will make them already set at the right 10 inches apart. Take the bat and center it over your wheel-head. The more exact you are the better the placement of your pins will be. Next, with a Sharpie go ahead and mark the surface of your wheel through the holes in the bat. Don't just make a dot, go ahead and fill the entire hole as it's important later on.
To make the pins you need some bolts and wing nuts available at a hardware store or Amazon. You only need 2 of each, but it's best to get a pack of them to save for future use. Here's what you need:
1/4-20 wing nuts
1/4-20 x 1-1/2" socket head cap screws
I've tested this myself. These are the same size to fit the holes in your bats.
As Bob Ross would say, here comes your bravery test. You need a 1/4" drill bit for the next part. Your measuring bat most likely had one hole slightly larger than the other to accommodate if pin holes on the wheelhead aren't exactly 10" apart. Start with the smaller of the two holes you marked in Sharpie. Drill a 1/4" hole directly in the center of your mark. The more perfectly centered the better. You can immediately attach a bat pin cap screw with a wingnut on the bottom. Take one of your bats and put it on the wheelhead with just the first pin installed. Now you can check to see of the second hole mark is centered. Spin the bat around and watch for your mark. It will be obvious if it's not right. I drilled the 2nd hole with the bat still down and used it as a guide. You don't want the 2nd bolt to be so tight it can't accept the bat. So here's your chance to get its position exactly right. Drill the 2nd hole and install the cap screw/wing nut. If you did it right your bat should fit snugly on the new pins. The beauty of wing nuts is the pins can be easily removed if you ever want to throw directly off the wheel.
@@davezad thank you
Great video! Looks like a lot of fun, but I need another hobby like I need a hole in the head :) I'll have to do more research, but I'm guessing the wheel is probably the "cheap" part of pottery set-up. As I understand it, you also need a kiln of some type that gets to pretty high temperatures. I'm guessing a normal kitchen oven just won't cut it. If you throw your own pottery and dry it (like I said, I need to do more research), are there normally businesses you can take your pieces to to bake and glaze it for a fee? Thanks!
Yeah, a kitchen oven can't reach the temperatures needed to fire the pieces; most of the times, pottery or ceramic studios rent their kilns for third parties! You should reach out to your local studio and ask for their fees, as well as conditions, because sometimes you need a certain amount of pieces for them to accept them, since no matter if you fire one little pot or 20, the whole kiln is needed to heat up. Good luck!
Hey Paca Bill. Sorry for the delayed response here. Yes, you will need a kiln to produce anything that finished and permanent. Otherwise your stuff will just dry out and remain brittle until you finally fire it. I did not have a kiln for the first 6 months of my pottery journey though. For me it was about the craft of learning to throw and really underneath that was a desire to center down and get quiet and pray. that was my journey. so i just had a wall full of unfired coffee mugs that never got fire :). but it started me on a new path - and yes, one with a lot of other expenses involved. lol. great thoughts. you're wise to count teh cost beforehand.
Yes, there are many studios who can fire for you. most charge a fee but it's way worth it compared with the expense of a $1300 or $1500 kiln. there is something really delightful about having something fully fired and finished that your'e using in the kitchen.
let me know what questions you have Paca Bill and I'll try to answer them as best I can. I'd love to help.
Great response. Thanks for contributing in Victoria! sincerely -mj
Bought the 36cm last month because it had a lot of good reviews. Unfortunately, the wheel head is off-centered and wobbling. VEVOR's customer service is the worst I have ever encountered. Their website says 30-day no-hassle returns, but getting a new wheel has been the biggest hassle ever! Their first reply was for me to wait 3 weeks for a repair kit so that I could fix it myself. We've gone back and forth several times and each time they refuse to let me return the wheel - they keep upping the incentive to keep it. So far they're giving me $125 to keep it. Does anyone know how to fix it? I have no idea and now I'm stuck with an off-centered pottery wheel.
Dang! I'm so sorry to hear that. No the wheelhead is pretty important. is there any way you can upload a video of what the wheel head is doing? Sorry to hear about your experience with them Mrs. Rodriguez.
@@OutpostPottery Thanks, I did upload a video to them. They refuse to issue a refund.
What clay would I purchase to make a few items at home on the orange one you have here? Earthenware is the type im leading towards but unsure if my oven will be hot enough to bake it.
Hi Joanne. I'm sorry for my late reply to you here! I like cone 5 stoneware. Yeah your oven wont get hot enough :( It requires a kiln that gets up to the 2000+ F range. Earthenware may not be the best choice for dishware because it often remains porous even after firing. However, if you're looking to make pots for plants earthenware is an excellent choice. That's a very basic overview and i'm sure there are a lot of exceptions but i generally go with cone 5 stoneware or porcelain for anything we are going to be eating on or drinking out of. I have done some low fire clay cups but they can sweat and leave water on my tables on the bases. I hope that helps and again, sorry for the late reply -mj
You could always use air dry clay there are a few by Amaco that are really good. Of course you can't make usable for food/drink items but for decorate items or practice until you have access to a kiln it is a good solution. Home ovens get nowhere near hot enough to fire true pottery clay.
Cant find the PDF
Sorry. It was kind of buried in the description. Here's the link: www.outpostpottery.com/potterywheelsforbeginners
Brother . Red color wheel price .
So sorry. Those orange wheels range from $130 to $180 USD. -mj
@@OutpostPottery thanks brother.
Why are they so expensive ($1000+) while it's basically just a motor?
Thanks for sharing God Bless
Thanks for watching, Carl. God bless you too :)
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I have not yet. I haven't heard of that one but if it looks like one of these it may be from the same factory -mj
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