The steam deck can emulate ps2 games flawlessly The steam deck is open source The steam deck is repairable The steam deck is more powerful The steam deck doesnt have to steam link to play pc games You can pirate pc games on the steam deck
Picked up the Gamesir X2 Pro over the holidays and love it. Works great with my Samsung S22 Ultra and S10+. Use it mostly with gamepads, steamlink, and emulation.
My, what a rabbit hole this video led me down to. This is definitely a much better investment than a handheld console since I can easily "upgrade" my hardware whenever I need to. Phones and tablets are definitely the future of handheld consoles.
Love your content. I do feel that you are sleeping on getting a steamdeck. The track pads, sound stage, and overall comfort of the handheld makes for a great gaming experience. I hope to see "I was wrong about the steam deck" video from you in the future 😅
I was about to say something similar. The button and thumbsticks layout of the Steam Deck may look weird, but they are super comfortable and premium, compared to the Switch type layout, which tend to cramp hands after awhile. And the Deck also has gryo abilities. Not sure if the Gamesir X2 Pro has that. And with the Vibrant Deck mod to increase saturation, it gives it an Oled type experience.
@@CyberClu @CyberClu Gamesir X2 Pro does not have Gyro. But that may be possible via the phone itself. I own this controller & a Steam Deck and hands down the Steam Deck is a much better experience, even without having my 1440P OLED phone screen. The X2 Pro is more comfortable than a Switch but not more comfortable than a Steam Deck. It is just more cramped in general and missing all of those QOL features, plus cloud gaming is not for everyone.
It's so amazing how you fan boys missed the point of the video. This unit is $70 vs $400 and it's comparable in experience. Some of us can't go out and buy yet another console, nor do we want to.
i owned a shit ton of third party controllers to game on my phone, including the gamesir x2 pro. my xbox series x controller with an 8bitdo phone clip attached basically beats them all
Point of information. Tencent (COD mobile devs) have patched out this type of controller pass through. You can still play it with a controller but it must be blue tooth. Which I get it. They dont want me running over touch screen people with this thing, but its still sad. :(
I did exactly this with a Standard Gamesir X2 and my old BlackShark 2. Emulating all the way up to Ps2 has been a blast and streaming is great too. Nothing comes close unless you pay up for a Steam Deck.
I don't know about this one, but GameSir controllers were recommended to me by a DIY emulator console kit I bought. I tried a couple and they were actually quite good for a very low price compared to other after market controllers, I can't remember the model I bought but it was their Dualshock 4 knockoff. They worked great. I bought my youngest the M4 mini for his tablet and Switch gaming and I've been really impressed by how well it works and how good it feels - even in larger hands.
I'd recommend the kishi over this, if not just for the price But using your phone for gaming, grabbing a gamepass subscription to get access to PC games, it's actually a lovely deal! Even with my unhealthy love for the steam deck, I have 0 issues recommending a phone controller and game pass for those that don't have hundreds of looneys to spend on hardware and games.
To anyone reading this, avoid the kishi and the backbone. Gamesir X2 Pro or Gamesir G8 Galileo are still probably your best choices. Why? They use sticks that are closer to an actual controller than the joycon like sticks that the backbone and kishi use. The G8 Galileo blows both out of the water in ergonomics, buttons, and sticks (except the d-pad) and has better pricing (unless you find them on sale)
It’s a shame that most mobile games aren’t developed with the idea in mind that phones can become a fully fledged console once you connect a controller to them!
I had one of those for my iPhone, loved it but the no analog triggers sucked so I returned them. I've got a backbone but I liked the feel of that one better. Nice that the new one comes with analog triggers
The X2 Pro has the analog triggers, but I don't know if there's an iOS version for it (though if you have an iPhone 15 it will probably work now since it's USB-C).
I took a nail file(salon board) to my X2 and lowered the rubber around the USB C port, bought the thinnest case I could, and filed the bottom of it as well so that I could use my phone in its case on the Gamesir.
While this is so good to have AS a Backup! Having the steam deck really is night in day while traveling and also having the ability to just play every console out there is pure, God!
Got X2 Bluetooth from the time ROG2 until the mobo dead.. Now still using it with RedMagic7 until now. Cant conplaint more. Better than Razer Kishi that cost more. Glad i bought this X2.
@@TechDweeb You’re welcome but thank you for the great content. I ordered a Gamesir 2 Pro last night from Amazon which are on sale. I will let you know how it works out with my Samsung Galaxy 10S plus.
The displays alone are a good argument for handheld gaming with your phone. There's basically no dedicated handheld with a better display than any good phone of the last few years.
I use a backbone with my iPhone to do things like emulation Xbox cloud and Ps remote play. Since I I bought that thing I’ve been doing more aint just on my phone than any of my consoles. It’s the convenience that makes it great for me
You grow on very good. Love to see people like me with that imense good quality work skills. I am not so good at komplex workloads to share my experience. That is not a direct problem for me, but i think something what i have to talk about computer stuff is interessting for nerds like us here.^^ So i spam the comment sections and share my opinion with others. :-D I hope you stay healthy and you have fun with producing your insane content.
Just got my Steam Deck from the sale. I do have to say it is pretty sweet from the 2 hours I spent messing with it. I don't think everyone NEEDS a Deck or anything. But it is pretty incredible, useful, and has so much power. It won't replace my RP3+ or Miyoo Mini, but I am glad I can pick up and play a TON of Steam games from my couch and bed. Hope you get to experience it soon, TD!! I am glad that Gamesir and other brands are providing other options for handheld gaming though. The handheld and retro gaming markets are in a true Renaissance right now. Glad to be part of the community and always happy to see any TD upload!
The advantage of this is that, if your PC is strong enough, surpassing a steam deck you're basically golden, you can even connect to a tablet (bigger screen) + a wireless controller. The disadvantage is that this is a HOME ONLY remedy. I am still thinking to get a hand held just for the vibes, Pocket 4/4 Pro looks good along with the RG35XX H. One of them would do, Odin 2 would be just like a steam deck in this instance and besides the extra portability of the Odin 2 if you just wanna use it at home, then the steamlink combo will do better. Or even better, Odin 2 + steamlink xD
Sorry, one more comment. You can use steam link away from home as well. As long as you have a decent wifi connection. That's what I do at my SO's house when there's nothing else to do, and she lives 40 minutes away (about 55ish miles)
@@TechDweeb yeah man, apparently ETA Prime doesn't know that either. He's done numerous vids mentioning steam link and has never spoken of it. I have a question, if you don't mind. Are you anywhere on discord? I'd like to chat with you for a bit.
Good morning! I hope today is a good one for you. Very nifty video/product. I've got an Xbox branded kishi v1 and it is a bit cheaper but doesn't seem nearly as nice as this (no screen mapper, and more flimsy). I thought I would use it more, but it was more like a gateway to wanting a handheld. I think the big limiter for me was that I didn't want to risk messing up my primary phone, and it doesn't have a micro-sd card slot, so I didn't want to fill it up with games. I'm one of those wackos who got, and loves, the Logitech Cloud. It isn't NEARLY as powerful as my S21, but the screen and controls are a delight. And it has worked great for all of the games I've wanted to play so far.
I think the Cloud is a GREAT device. I would have bought one if it was just a little bit cheaper. Yeah it's not as powerful as other handhelds, but in terms of the screen and controls and ergonomics it's top notch.
tl;dr: home: 500mb/s fiber -> router -> cat6 -> PC/Steamlink work: 500mb/s fiber ->router -> 5GHz wifi -> Android/Steamlink Works very well. Finished all Resident Evil remake games, Hades multiple times (requires fast inputs), played some God of War before I got bored, Diablo 4 works perfectly, and many others. Don't know about FPS games.. For the life of me I can't bring myself to play online FPS with a controller.. Anyway, it doesn't matter the game, what matters is the input lag, and it's honestly very little noticeable.. You can also stream movies in Desktop Mode with very little compression/loss in bitrate. It works really well if you want an easy solution and can't open ports on the server-side for whatever reason. A good WiFi connection or 5G on your phone should probably be enough if your PC is connected to a fast connection imho.. I mean Steamlink caps out at max 100mb/s anyway, locally or remotely, so anything above 100mb/s on both sides should be enough if the distance isn't too big and the latency goes up to high. Like, playing from another country could be a hard sell.. Other than that you're probably good.. I've only ever tried at work though.. Also, running AnyDesk/TeamViewer on PC startup is good if you're gonna be gone a while and don't wanna worry about Steam crashing for whatever reason before you get back home.. _________________________________________________ I play Steamdeck from home to work no problem. Maybe a little delay, but nothing that really matters unless you're playing Street Fighter competitively. I connected my phone to a TV at work with a USB-C to a small hub with a few USB connections, charging port and a HDMI output. So I have a wireless keyboard and mouse connected with a dongle in two USB ports for Desktop Mode, passthrough charging for the phone, and HDMI display on the TV so the screen clones/starts Samsung Dex. Then I connected my Xbox controller through Bluetooth directly to the phone and played the Resident Evil remake games, Hades and God of War at work on the TV.. No problems.. Although I'll admit when I started playing Hades at home again I noticed a difference in the input-lag, but not much. I also stream movies through Steamlink, just go into Desktop Mode and open your files. It's great if you can't open your ports for whatever reason and/or can't get programs like Plex to work properly without compression. Just make sure you pair your phone with Steam while you're on the same network the first (and only) time.. After that you can connect to your PC from anywhere without having to ever open any ports or pair again (unless you get a new phone) or anything like that.. I have Steam as autorun when my computer boots but I also have AnyDesk running, so if Steam is closed or has crashed or updates or anything weird that makes it so I can't connect, I'll connect using AnyDesk and just restart Steam or reboot my computer again.. Then it works.. Happened like once so it's probably not necessary, but could be smart if you're gonna be gone a while and wanna make sure your PC is available if something should happen with Steam while you're gone..
I have a similar setup and can access my PC also when I am on the go. Not from 5G/4G but when there is WiFi in my hotel or at my families place - I can play my games from afar, no problem. Just need at least 20Mbit upload
Same conclusion. Gaming PC (6600xt, 24gb ram, 5600x, 2k monitor) that runs everything perfectly fine. I work remote and don't game on the go. Wanted to get a steam deck but couldn't justify it. Have the og steam link for the living room TV, a razor kishi phone controller and it does everything a steam deck can do - even better at times. My latency isn't noticeable and with the additional pixel density on my phone, it looks even better than the SD.
Game streaming on a 1440p phone is way better looking than an 800p steam deck. For those of us who have gaming PCs that can power it, this is definitely the nicer experience.
I bought the Gamesir X2 Type C and loved it a lot. Worked as described. Then the Android was updated and ever since the thing is dead. Just doesn't work anymore. And this is not only about my specific unit. A proper company would solve that with an update, but not Gamesir... or maybe they did, but to see if, you would have to install their app, where you can tell all of your personal communication details to the Chinese governmemt directly. Their devices are great, I still miss that thing. But never would I buy another one.
people make out bluetooth headphone latency to be a much bigger issue than it actually is. i can’t tell the difference when using my airpod pros or wired earbuds with my steam deck
I have been using this setup for months, and I have been loving my Gamesir x-2 experience with my Note 20 Ultra. It feels like a premium experience until the phone rings and all the notifications start popping in. That is the one major downside of using your phone as a gaming device. It still does phone things. I use my Ambernic double x when i just need to be offline, but that is a $60 experience (which isn't bad), vs. the power of a full-blown Snapdragon processor's ability to play PS2 games locally.
It's better depending on your use case. I just bought one. So I'm not in a position where I need a full stand alone device that can play AAA games with no internet. BUT I do enjoy playing games in bed now and then. Also for when I'm on the road or on a plane. Local Low end games or retro games are perfectly fine to play for a max of a couple of hours. It's the same reason I sold my Switch. It was almost never mobile and just turned into a youtube machine. Looking forward to playing RE4 remake in bed. Lights off. Cozy mode. But if you're never home and want to AAA obviously the Deck is better
Your video was awesome! I really enjoyed it and found it very engaging. Keep up the great work on your channel and I hope it continues to grow and succeed!
Fantastic video bud 🔥 I have the new GameSir X2s it's amazing! Was only released in china about 2months ago, it went under the radar no one has mentioned it or heard of it, incremental update from the X2 but also as good/better than the X2 Pro 🙂 Hall sensor triggers 🔥 amazing joysticks, good build quality, class buttons, limited edition retro Nintendo colour etc. I paid £35 with a coupon. Using my new Samsung 24 games are so much fun, especially using Yuzu for switch games. Full speed gameplay massive library too much fun so less time ♥️ Definitely try bag one for yourself as not many people are aware of it so easier & cheaper to get.
Another click-bait steam link video. -_- Save your time, peeps. Steam link is not worth it in every situation ive tried and I think the 3.6 star rating on android kinda proves this point. I seriously have no idea why you compared it to the steam deck - you can do better.
Only reason I got a 405M instead of putting it on my phone,is for when I’m at work with no reception. I can still play the games,with no internet,and not kill my phone battery.
My only issue is, the 90s and 2000s have spoiled me in what I consider "portable gaming". If the device can't just slip in and out of my pocket as is without fear of it bending or breaking, or requires any physical setup besides one simple plug in (like a controller into a console, or a device onto a charging cable), it just isn't for me. That and my freaking Galaxy S9's battery dies after two hours of regular use, I can't imagine it lasting more than thirty minutes actually gaming/streaming on it. That's what my cute little Galaxy A7 TAB-lite is for! I just flip it open and use RetroArch or Steam Remote Play, it's neat. But also not pocketable.
Backbone makes a licensed PlayStation one of these. Cool that there are licensed versions of this product for both Microsoft and Xbox configuration. I have always been a PlayStation guy. If I was in the market for one of these I would be super happy to pick one up
I will NEVER use my phone as a gaming system. It's just a phone, ready to be replaced in a few years. R REAL game systems don't get replaced, I still have my PS2.
Unless it can natively play Halo, Doom, Mass Effect, Spiderman and so on I wouldn't call it a better Steam Deck. A good option for those just looking to emulate games or stream games on a budget though.
True, but larger phones aren't that much smaller than the deck, and you get ultrawide with a phone which you don't get with a deck (whether or not that is important to you depends on your preferences). And I don't have good wifi. Just a normal middle-of-the-road router. As long as you have 5ghz wifi you'll be good.
Good morning :-) Not to convince you one way or the other, but just in case streaming is something you want to try down the road. It helps a LOT if you can get your computer on a wired network. That way the handheld and the computer aren't competing for the radio on your wifi. I am a network engineer, with super expensive wifi, and still, the best advice I can give is to use a wire whenever possible.
Huh guess this is similar too the Razer Kishi ? Might be exactly the same just rebranded too be a Razer product, specially the v2 kishi... With the Kishi v1 the major issue was a lack of an app too rebind controls & stuff but there's third party ones like mantis gamepad pro which is free, probably works for the gamesir one too. A website in Sweden has it on sale for 549 sek or 53$ while the gamesir x2 pro is 899 sek or 87 usd here bit of a hard pill for me too swallow for now without a job + I'd rarely use this anyway. Kishi V2 seems too allow touch only games just fine as well but costs more then the gamesir x2 pro does on the same website.
@@TechDweeb Yeah i wouldn't worry much about that personally. Mostly PS1, Sega genesis, snes, gba, gb, gbc emulation & steam remote play id be interested in. Maybe some ports of game engines like RVGL for Re-volt, Xash3d for half-life 1 etc... at the top of my head here at least. Not in a hurry too set that up though having rebuilt my pc not too long ago.
Bought a few retro handhelds, yet I just didn't find them suitable for my needs. I managed to get an X2 for £40 and utilised my old Pixel 4a and its everything I need for retro gaming. Saved myself a fortune over the steam deck too and for me it's all I require. For those of us looking at not spending a ton, then one of these is ideal. There's a YT vid of someone using a Galaxy Fold with one of these. Looks epic.
I'm very comfortable with the on screen touch button now and not carrying the attachable controller as long as they are responsive. The remote play app from Sony is not one of them though. Very bad touch implementation and needed the physical controller.
I have the gamesir, Samsung Galaxy Fold 4, and a Steam Deck. First off, smart phones are pretty much limited to emulating other handhelds and pre-playstation hardware. You can get some Playstation games to load, but it's not a very playable experience. The Steam Deck can emulate pretty much everything, including many Switch titles. (Pro-tip if you still want a gamesir and have a folding phone: Get the model with the C-input on the left side of the controller, instead of to the right.) Secondly, smart phone game streaming is heavily reliant on a wifi connection and it *needs* a good one. Another person watching Netflix on the same network can completely ruin your game experience, especially with GeForce Now. The Steam Deck has none of these limitations. It can play Elden Ring, Red Dead Redemption 2, Cyberpunk 2077, etc wherever you want. Third, most people don't want to run power hungry games on a device that they need to make it through the entire day. While a lot of people do carry a charger/battery bank with them, most people will be annoyed if they actually have to plug their phone into it. Having a separate device is more convenient. (The Steam Deck does have a notoriously short battery life at around 1-2 hours, but I've never been in a situation where I was using the Deck for more than 30 minutes and didn't have some kind of plug in available. Unlike a phone, you are considerably less mobile when using a Steam Deck and it's not something you need to bring with you around a building once you've put your bag down.) Fourth, the Steam Deck isn't competing with your phone. It *really* doesn't have to. To put things into perspective, phone processors performance are measured in *giga*flops and the Steam Deck's APU performance is measured in *tera*flops. You're essentially arguing that the Flintstone mobile is a better option than the Toyota Corolla.
btw, you can also make another video called "a better nintendo switch", with the same video like this but you are playing nintendo switch games on mobile using Skyline Nintendo Switch emulator
I salute you sir. Love your sense of humor. Great alternative for gamers trying to save money. Don't let the FOMO get to you. If you don't need a Steam Deck, don't get it. However, in case you didn't know, steam also allows your store credit to be used towards the purchase of a Steam Deck.
My only issue with using my phone this way is it cuts into my phones battery life. Other than that (and the notification interruptions), you're right, it's a pretty good alternative. Unless it's somebody with no PC, but why get a steamdeck at that point, not like they'd have the library to eenjoy it, lol.
Some people play mobile games because their friends are on mobile. For single player games, PC/Steam Deck is the way to go, there are no good single player games on Android anyway, except for ports of 8+ years old games.
Meh. I do want to get a Gamesir sometime for my phone, but since phones can only really play Android games and emulators (which are technically android games by proxy), it's just not a priority for me. :3
I got this given that I already have a gaming laptop and didn't wanna invest in a steam deck. It is good quality, and the streaming experience is supprisingly good. like you, i had tried it in the past and was unsatisfied, but streaming elden ring was mindblowing this time with barely any latency. only issue is, this made me want a stram deck even more. there is something about the jankiness of plopping the phone in and out, and android not being very gaming focused that made it feel like this wasn't really the perfect experience. to sum it up, it's like the whole thing is less than the sum of it's parts. however, I am grateful for it as it allowed me to realise I really do want a steam deck and will use it alot once it arrives(later today, yay!). I think this is a good middle ground to dip your toes into handheld gaming, and will be a great gift for a friend that does not have a steam deck, but ultimately the steam deck is the end game if you can afford it. it would have been cheaper to just pull the trigger from the start!
Congrats on your deck! Yeah that's the way these things go, we buy the cheap version hoping it will save us $, then eventually buy the real thing and the cheap thing made us end up spending more $ in the big picture. Pun intended.
@@droopid8805 after ordering, it arrived to my doorstep in about three days. took a while to get the tracking number though. congratz, on your purchase. It's really a mind blowing device that is as good as the reviews make it seem :)
I have the black version and I love it so so so much. I use it as much as, if not more than my steam deck because it's definitely more portable. I take it everywhere I go if it fits in my backpack or handbag. I bought it because it was on discount (60EUR shipping included) and I really couldn't justify buying a retroid pocket device or an odin because I own two android phones. Dedicated one for gaming now and the experience is absolutely premium. Money very well spent. I even considered buying a second one for back up if the first one ever dies but I withheld myself fron doing that, lol. This thing is great, looks beautiful (much better than the bulky Gamesir x3 pro) and is wortg every penny!
I know the feeling, about wanting a backup in case the first one dies. I tried REALLY hard to get a 2nd miyoo mini because that's my all time favourite pocket device, but I didn't get one before they stopped making them. Now my single Mini is so precious to me I'm scared to take it out of the house 😳
I used to use a Razer Kishi and really liked it Unfortunately the original Kishi doesn't fit on my RedMagic 7. So for now I use a phone stand and an Xbox controller. I do have a KT-R1 ordered though! Thanks for the video.
I'm glad that the Game Boy grew up to be a respectable Game Sir.
The steam deck can emulate ps2 games flawlessly
The steam deck is open source
The steam deck is repairable
The steam deck is more powerful
The steam deck doesnt have to steam link to play pc games
You can pirate pc games on the steam deck
Picked up the Gamesir X2 Pro over the holidays and love it. Works great with my Samsung S22 Ultra and S10+. Use it mostly with gamepads, steamlink, and emulation.
My, what a rabbit hole this video led me down to.
This is definitely a much better investment than a handheld console since I can easily "upgrade" my hardware whenever I need to.
Phones and tablets are definitely the future of handheld consoles.
Totally!
Love your content. I do feel that you are sleeping on getting a steamdeck. The track pads, sound stage, and overall comfort of the handheld makes for a great gaming experience. I hope to see "I was wrong about the steam deck" video from you in the future 😅
I hope to see that too :)
I was about to say something similar. The button and thumbsticks layout of the Steam Deck may look weird, but they are super comfortable and premium, compared to the Switch type layout, which tend to cramp hands after awhile. And the Deck also has gryo abilities. Not sure if the Gamesir X2 Pro has that. And with the Vibrant Deck mod to increase saturation, it gives it an Oled type experience.
In order to appreciate the deck you must first own it, I’ve been playing this thing more than my PS5 due to how comfortable and well rounded it is.
@@CyberClu @CyberClu Gamesir X2 Pro does not have Gyro. But that may be possible via the phone itself. I own this controller & a Steam Deck and hands down the Steam Deck is a much better experience, even without having my 1440P OLED phone screen. The X2 Pro is more comfortable than a Switch but not more comfortable than a Steam Deck. It is just more cramped in general and missing all of those QOL features, plus cloud gaming is not for everyone.
It's so amazing how you fan boys missed the point of the video. This unit is $70 vs $400 and it's comparable in experience. Some of us can't go out and buy yet another console, nor do we want to.
i owned a shit ton of third party controllers to game on my phone, including the gamesir x2 pro. my xbox series x controller with an 8bitdo phone clip attached basically beats them all
Point of information. Tencent (COD mobile devs) have patched out this type of controller pass through. You can still play it with a controller but it must be blue tooth. Which I get it. They dont want me running over touch screen people with this thing, but its still sad. :(
Dang. That's a shame. It worked so good!
I did exactly this with a Standard Gamesir X2 and my old BlackShark 2. Emulating all the way up to Ps2 has been a blast and streaming is great too. Nothing comes close unless you pay up for a Steam Deck.
I don't know about this one, but GameSir controllers were recommended to me by a DIY emulator console kit I bought. I tried a couple and they were actually quite good for a very low price compared to other after market controllers, I can't remember the model I bought but it was their Dualshock 4 knockoff. They worked great. I bought my youngest the M4 mini for his tablet and Switch gaming and I've been really impressed by how well it works and how good it feels - even in larger hands.
I'd recommend the kishi over this, if not just for the price
But using your phone for gaming, grabbing a gamepass subscription to get access to PC games, it's actually a lovely deal!
Even with my unhealthy love for the steam deck, I have 0 issues recommending a phone controller and game pass for those that don't have hundreds of looneys to spend on hardware and games.
I didn't even touch on Game Pass in this video (because I can't, because my rural internet sucks), but that's a great point!
To anyone reading this, avoid the kishi and the backbone.
Gamesir X2 Pro or Gamesir G8 Galileo are still probably your best choices.
Why? They use sticks that are closer to an actual controller than the joycon like sticks that the backbone and kishi use.
The G8 Galileo blows both out of the water in ergonomics, buttons, and sticks (except the d-pad) and has better pricing (unless you find them on sale)
It’s a shame that most mobile games aren’t developed with the idea in mind that phones can become a fully fledged console once you connect a controller to them!
$70, plus the price of a Gaming PC. Deck*is* a PC.
You can't upgrade your steamdeck hardware.
I use this for remote play or game pass when traveling and it’s great, I run it on mobile data while traveling in rural areas and it runs flawless
I had one of those for my iPhone, loved it but the no analog triggers sucked so I returned them. I've got a backbone but I liked the feel of that one better. Nice that the new one comes with analog triggers
I may look into this as well I have a backbone as well
The X2 Pro has the analog triggers, but I don't know if there's an iOS version for it (though if you have an iPhone 15 it will probably work now since it's USB-C).
I've been using the same cellphone for about 2 years or more. After I replace my phone this sounds like a good accessory.
Amazing use for an old phone!
I took a nail file(salon board) to my X2 and lowered the rubber around the USB C port, bought the thinnest case I could, and filed the bottom of it as well so that I could use my phone in its case on the Gamesir.
While this is so good to have AS a Backup! Having the steam deck really is night in day while traveling and also having the ability to just play every console out there is pure, God!
Oh for sure. I don't travel often but when I do I really miss not having a steam deck.
@@TechDweeb gamesir is a purity scummy company they mayed a Nintendo switch emulator by essentially stealing code from an open source project
Got X2 Bluetooth from the time ROG2 until the mobo dead.. Now still using it with RedMagic7 until now. Cant conplaint more. Better than Razer Kishi that cost more.
Glad i bought this X2.
I tried this and it sucked. Ended up getting a windows handheld and it's really like living in the future
Didnt know I needed this until now. You sold me on this. Cant wait to try it
It's all fun and games until you get a call or a pop up notification
Haha true true
i just sold mine, the deadzones in this controller is just awful.
Oh really? I didn't notice that at all. Maybe you had a bad one?
Did you bother to warn the sucker that bought it from you?.
Hey, Im the buyer, and I demand a partial refund. You never told me the deadzones are bad, Dillon.
And once you get drift chuck entire thing in trash.
I've done that many times with many controllers over the years 🤣
You’re the man! You make the best videos and I’m going to return my Razer Kishi and get a Gamesir 2 Pro! That Tech Dweeb!!!
Thanks buddy!
@@TechDweeb You’re welcome but thank you for the great content. I ordered a Gamesir 2 Pro last night from Amazon which are on sale. I will let you know how it works out with my Samsung Galaxy 10S plus.
The displays alone are a good argument for handheld gaming with your phone. There's basically no dedicated handheld with a better display than any good phone of the last few years.
Yeah that's the main thing I loved about this setup. My used S10+'s screen is nicer than any dedicated handheld I've seen.
I use a backbone with my iPhone to do things like emulation Xbox cloud and Ps remote play. Since I I bought that thing I’ve been doing more aint just on my phone than any of my consoles. It’s the convenience that makes it great for me
Most of the Amazon reviews roasted that though.
COD Mobile is fun even without a controller, You just need to put in the effort to acclimate to touch controls.
also, Zelda wild breath XD
You grow on very good. Love to see people like me with that imense good quality work skills. I am not so good at komplex workloads to share my experience. That is not a direct problem for me, but i think something what i have to talk about computer stuff is interessting for nerds like us here.^^ So i spam the comment sections and share my opinion with others. :-D
I hope you stay healthy and you have fun with producing your insane content.
Haha thanks buddy :)
Oh goddamn it, guess I'll throw out that script I'd half-written...
Better to play it safe and just delete your channel.
But what if I'm on an airplane without an internet connection? That's where the Steam Deck has been excellent for me.
Totally.
Just out of sheer curiosity: Do you do Twitch at all TechDweeb? :D
Not yet 🤔
A Steam Deck can do this but with more comfortable controls and more controller options. On top of that it can still play games on the go.
500$ vs 70$ tho
Steam deck so huge "on the go" feels like a burden carrying it whereas pulling out a phone is so much better
Only thing I don't like is that I have to take off my phone case to play like this. Good video though!
Why do I feel like someone is trying to sell me something lol
Are those jokes about moms basement true?
It's a half truth. 🤫
Just got my Steam Deck from the sale. I do have to say it is pretty sweet from the 2 hours I spent messing with it.
I don't think everyone NEEDS a Deck or anything. But it is pretty incredible, useful, and has so much power. It won't replace my RP3+ or Miyoo Mini, but I am glad I can pick up and play a TON of Steam games from my couch and bed. Hope you get to experience it soon, TD!!
I am glad that Gamesir and other brands are providing other options for handheld gaming though. The handheld and retro gaming markets are in a true Renaissance right now. Glad to be part of the community and always happy to see any TD upload!
Yeah I almost bought a Deck on the sale. I have another mini handheld PC though that I'll be reviewing soon.
@@TechDweeb can't wait!
The advantage of this is that, if your PC is strong enough, surpassing a steam deck you're basically golden, you can even connect to a tablet (bigger screen) + a wireless controller. The disadvantage is that this is a HOME ONLY remedy. I am still thinking to get a hand held just for the vibes, Pocket 4/4 Pro looks good along with the RG35XX H. One of them would do, Odin 2 would be just like a steam deck in this instance and besides the extra portability of the Odin 2 if you just wanna use it at home, then the steamlink combo will do better. Or even better, Odin 2 + steamlink xD
It's 63 usd with a 5% off coupon on Amazon
Yup. I linked that in my description.
Sorry, one more comment. You can use steam link away from home as well. As long as you have a decent wifi connection. That's what I do at my SO's house when there's nothing else to do, and she lives 40 minutes away (about 55ish miles)
I didn't know that!
@@TechDweeb yeah man, apparently ETA Prime doesn't know that either. He's done numerous vids mentioning steam link and has never spoken of it. I have a question, if you don't mind. Are you anywhere on discord? I'd like to chat with you for a bit.
Good morning! I hope today is a good one for you. Very nifty video/product. I've got an Xbox branded kishi v1 and it is a bit cheaper but doesn't seem nearly as nice as this (no screen mapper, and more flimsy). I thought I would use it more, but it was more like a gateway to wanting a handheld. I think the big limiter for me was that I didn't want to risk messing up my primary phone, and it doesn't have a micro-sd card slot, so I didn't want to fill it up with games. I'm one of those wackos who got, and loves, the Logitech Cloud. It isn't NEARLY as powerful as my S21, but the screen and controls are a delight. And it has worked great for all of the games I've wanted to play so far.
I think the Cloud is a GREAT device. I would have bought one if it was just a little bit cheaper. Yeah it's not as powerful as other handhelds, but in terms of the screen and controls and ergonomics it's top notch.
tl;dr:
home: 500mb/s fiber -> router -> cat6 -> PC/Steamlink
work: 500mb/s fiber ->router -> 5GHz wifi -> Android/Steamlink
Works very well.
Finished all Resident Evil remake games, Hades multiple times (requires fast inputs), played some God of War before I got bored, Diablo 4 works perfectly, and many others. Don't know about FPS games.. For the life of me I can't bring myself to play online FPS with a controller.. Anyway, it doesn't matter the game, what matters is the input lag, and it's honestly very little noticeable..
You can also stream movies in Desktop Mode with very little compression/loss in bitrate. It works really well if you want an easy solution and can't open ports on the server-side for whatever reason.
A good WiFi connection or 5G on your phone should probably be enough if your PC is connected to a fast connection imho..
I mean Steamlink caps out at max 100mb/s anyway, locally or remotely, so anything above 100mb/s on both sides should be enough if the distance isn't too big and the latency goes up to high. Like, playing from another country could be a hard sell.. Other than that you're probably good.. I've only ever tried at work though..
Also, running AnyDesk/TeamViewer on PC startup is good if you're gonna be gone a while and don't wanna worry about Steam crashing for whatever reason before you get back home..
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I play Steamdeck from home to work no problem. Maybe a little delay, but nothing that really matters unless you're playing Street Fighter competitively.
I connected my phone to a TV at work with a USB-C to a small hub with a few USB connections, charging port and a HDMI output. So I have a wireless keyboard and mouse connected with a dongle in two USB ports for Desktop Mode, passthrough charging for the phone, and HDMI display on the TV so the screen clones/starts Samsung Dex.
Then I connected my Xbox controller through Bluetooth directly to the phone and played the Resident Evil remake games, Hades and God of War at work on the TV.. No problems.. Although I'll admit when I started playing Hades at home again I noticed a difference in the input-lag, but not much.
I also stream movies through Steamlink, just go into Desktop Mode and open your files. It's great if you can't open your ports for whatever reason and/or can't get programs like Plex to work properly without compression.
Just make sure you pair your phone with Steam while you're on the same network the first (and only) time.. After that you can connect to your PC from anywhere without having to ever open any ports or pair again (unless you get a new phone) or anything like that..
I have Steam as autorun when my computer boots but I also have AnyDesk running, so if Steam is closed or has crashed or updates or anything weird that makes it so I can't connect, I'll connect using AnyDesk and just restart Steam or reboot my computer again.. Then it works.. Happened like once so it's probably not necessary, but could be smart if you're gonna be gone a while and wanna make sure your PC is available if something should happen with Steam while you're gone..
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
You only need a gaming PC running, using 800 W for the "steam deck experience" :D I mean if your PC runs all day long anyways than maybe
Yup! That's the only requirement, easy enough right? 🤣
I have a similar setup and can access my PC also when I am on the go. Not from 5G/4G but when there is WiFi in my hotel or at my families place - I can play my games from afar, no problem. Just need at least 20Mbit upload
Same conclusion. Gaming PC (6600xt, 24gb ram, 5600x, 2k monitor) that runs everything perfectly fine. I work remote and don't game on the go. Wanted to get a steam deck but couldn't justify it. Have the og steam link for the living room TV, a razor kishi phone controller and it does everything a steam deck can do - even better at times. My latency isn't noticeable and with the additional pixel density on my phone, it looks even better than the SD.
Game streaming on a 1440p phone is way better looking than an 800p steam deck. For those of us who have gaming PCs that can power it, this is definitely the nicer experience.
I bought the Gamesir X2 Type C and loved it a lot. Worked as described. Then the Android was updated and ever since the thing is dead. Just doesn't work anymore. And this is not only about my specific unit.
A proper company would solve that with an update, but not Gamesir... or maybe they did, but to see if, you would have to install their app, where you can tell all of your personal communication details to the Chinese governmemt directly.
Their devices are great, I still miss that thing. But never would I buy another one.
Discord sent me here.
THE PROPHECY HAS BEEN FULFILLED
Correction: You can play outside your home once you've established the connection. I played Witcher 3 over 5g no problem
Unfortunately, this also blocks the headphone jack. Unless we're using low latency earbuds, there's gonna be lag. Rhythm games might be impossible.
people make out bluetooth headphone latency to be a much bigger issue than it actually is. i can’t tell the difference when using my airpod pros or wired earbuds with my steam deck
I have been using this setup for months, and I have been loving my Gamesir x-2 experience with my Note 20 Ultra. It feels like a premium experience until the phone rings and all the notifications start popping in. That is the one major downside of using your phone as a gaming device. It still does phone things. I use my Ambernic double x when i just need to be offline, but that is a $60 experience (which isn't bad), vs. the power of a full-blown Snapdragon processor's ability to play PS2 games locally.
That's a good combo I think. Phone/controller for higher end stuff, and a cheapo mini retro handheld for 16 bit stuff.
Samsung has a feature that silent every calls and notifications. I never get any messages or calls when I am gaming.
You can put it in "do not disturb" mode when gaming.
It's better depending on your use case. I just bought one. So I'm not in a position where I need a full stand alone device that can play AAA games with no internet. BUT I do enjoy playing games in bed now and then. Also for when I'm on the road or on a plane. Local Low end games or retro games are perfectly fine to play for a max of a couple of hours. It's the same reason I sold my Switch. It was almost never mobile and just turned into a youtube machine. Looking forward to playing RE4 remake in bed. Lights off. Cozy mode. But if you're never home and want to AAA obviously the Deck is better
Your video was awesome! I really enjoyed it and found it very engaging. Keep up the great work on your channel and I hope it continues to grow and succeed!
Aw thanks for saying so!
How about the GameVice Flex?
That is being slept on very badly.
iOS & Android compatible!
I reached out to the company, if they send me one I'll review it!
S10 plus display doesn't rival handhelds it mops the floor with it. That's a HDR10+ display pushing 1440p.
Razer Phone 2 running Lineage 20 with GameSir x2 is the way to go
Fantastic video bud 🔥 I have the new GameSir X2s it's amazing! Was only released in china about 2months ago, it went under the radar no one has mentioned it or heard of it, incremental update from the X2 but also as good/better than the X2 Pro 🙂
Hall sensor triggers 🔥 amazing joysticks, good build quality, class buttons, limited edition retro Nintendo colour etc. I paid £35 with a coupon. Using my new Samsung 24 games are so much fun, especially using Yuzu for switch games. Full speed gameplay massive library too much fun so less time ♥️
Definitely try bag one for yourself as not many people are aware of it so easier & cheaper to get.
I have a gamesir. If you shave off the rubber near the male usb c port, then you can use a thin phone case.
Good to know!
Yo! Sup Dweeeeeeb! YES! I've been waiting for this episode. Thanks dude!
Just got mine in, bought it from this video!! Still setting it up but it’s pretty cool so far!
Nice! I've used it a ton since making this vid (I had a COD Mobile obsession for a good week). Great device.
@@TechDweeb gonna try and run Shadow of the Colossus and I Ninja on this thing. Love your content! Such atmosphere!!!
Even though he's 22, that's what I still tell my son..."Sit down, shut up and listen!" Lol
oh wow you have the same icon pack installed on your phone as i have !
Desaturate FTW
I have the S10+ and a SteamDeck. For the Holster, I have a Razer Kishi. You just got my sub. I realized what the RP3+ was.
Welcome to the channel buddy!
@@TechDweeb thank you.
Metroid Dread on my Samsung 6.8 inch screen?... In 4k....yes I need this...
They make a non-pro version for IOS amzn.to/3FPYn2H
@@TechDweeb thx, but I don't use iphones... I'm a Power user so Android all day
Another click-bait steam link video. -_-
Save your time, peeps. Steam link is not worth it in every situation ive tried and I think the 3.6 star rating on android kinda proves this point. I seriously have no idea why you compared it to the steam deck - you can do better.
Only reason I got a 405M instead of putting it on my phone,is for when I’m at work with no reception.
I can still play the games,with no internet,and not kill my phone battery.
My only issue is, the 90s and 2000s have spoiled me in what I consider "portable gaming". If the device can't just slip in and out of my pocket as is without fear of it bending or breaking, or requires any physical setup besides one simple plug in (like a controller into a console, or a device onto a charging cable), it just isn't for me.
That and my freaking Galaxy S9's battery dies after two hours of regular use, I can't imagine it lasting more than thirty minutes actually gaming/streaming on it. That's what my cute little Galaxy A7 TAB-lite is for! I just flip it open and use RetroArch or Steam Remote Play, it's neat. But also not pocketable.
Haha yeah I'm with ya. The pocket factor of something like this is basically a 'no'. That's why I love my retro handhelds like the Miyoo Mini.
Backbone makes a licensed PlayStation one of these. Cool that there are licensed versions of this product for both Microsoft and Xbox configuration. I have always been a PlayStation guy. If I was in the market for one of these I would be super happy to pick one up
I will NEVER use my phone as a gaming system. It's just a phone, ready to be replaced in a few years. R
REAL game systems don't get replaced, I still have my PS2.
Unless it can natively play Halo, Doom, Mass Effect, Spiderman and so on I wouldn't call it a better Steam Deck.
A good option for those just looking to emulate games or stream games on a budget though.
I love the mom jokes,
Great content bro
Thanks bro 🤓
my house is made out of stone and you expect me to have the money for a steam deck
i disagree because the screen is much smaller than the staem deck and game streaming relies on good wifi which not every body has
True, but larger phones aren't that much smaller than the deck, and you get ultrawide with a phone which you don't get with a deck (whether or not that is important to you depends on your preferences). And I don't have good wifi. Just a normal middle-of-the-road router. As long as you have 5ghz wifi you'll be good.
Good morning :-) Not to convince you one way or the other, but just in case streaming is something you want to try down the road. It helps a LOT if you can get your computer on a wired network. That way the handheld and the computer aren't competing for the radio on your wifi. I am a network engineer, with super expensive wifi, and still, the best advice I can give is to use a wire whenever possible.
@@TechDweeb true but still it relies on u having wifi at all and the pc has to be turned on
@@I4get42 u still need to havre good wifi on ur phone
@i like trains that is true 😀
Looks awesome, this may be a bad question, but is there a version of the controller for Apple or only Android?
There is a non-pro version that works with Apple devices.
😂😂You have a great tone of voice
Huh guess this is similar too the Razer Kishi ?
Might be exactly the same just rebranded too be a Razer product, specially the v2 kishi...
With the Kishi v1 the major issue was a lack of an app too rebind controls & stuff but there's third party ones like mantis gamepad pro which is free, probably works for the gamesir one too.
A website in Sweden has it on sale for 549 sek or 53$ while the gamesir x2 pro is 899 sek or 87 usd here bit of a hard pill for me too swallow for now without a job + I'd rarely use this anyway.
Kishi V2 seems too allow touch only games just fine as well but costs more then the gamesir x2 pro does on the same website.
The Kishi v2 looks like a great device. Plus that one is officially supported in games like Warzone (I think, don't quote me on that).
@@TechDweeb Yeah i wouldn't worry much about that personally.
Mostly PS1, Sega genesis, snes, gba, gb, gbc emulation & steam remote play id be interested in.
Maybe some ports of game engines like RVGL for Re-volt, Xash3d for half-life 1 etc... at the top of my head here at least.
Not in a hurry too set that up though having rebuilt my pc not too long ago.
And then there's me, using the deck to stream play games on my s23 using this controller for it
Bought a few retro handhelds, yet I just didn't find them suitable for my needs. I managed to get an X2 for £40 and utilised my old Pixel 4a and its everything I need for retro gaming. Saved myself a fortune over the steam deck too and for me it's all I require.
For those of us looking at not spending a ton, then one of these is ideal.
There's a YT vid of someone using a Galaxy Fold with one of these. Looks epic.
Amazing quality of the controls with this thing too, much better than most of the retro handhelds out there even the more expensive ones.
@@TechDweeb Yes, I was surprised at the quality of them too. Zero drift and lag.
Wish there was a controller like this that just fit phones with cases.
Some phone cases fit with this one. If you have a thinner style case it should work fine with this.
I'm very comfortable with the on screen touch button now and not carrying the attachable controller as long as they are responsive. The remote play app from Sony is not one of them though. Very bad touch implementation and needed the physical controller.
Interesting. I've not had a chance to try the Sony streaming yet.
Ok, I originally came here to troll. But I have to admit the Steam link combined with this is a very interesting idea.
I gave it a chance and I was very impressed, I didn't think it would work as well as it did.
Why is your dad hiding a candy stash in the medicine cabinet?
I didn't say my dad. I said your dad. Pay attention.
@@TechDweeb lol. okay, I better ask my dad why he's doing that.
This is actually insanity. I'm totally getting this. Sometimes I just don't want to game sitting on my desk.
I'm with ya.
I have the gamesir, Samsung Galaxy Fold 4, and a Steam Deck.
First off, smart phones are pretty much limited to emulating other handhelds and pre-playstation hardware. You can get some Playstation games to load, but it's not a very playable experience. The Steam Deck can emulate pretty much everything, including many Switch titles. (Pro-tip if you still want a gamesir and have a folding phone: Get the model with the C-input on the left side of the controller, instead of to the right.)
Secondly, smart phone game streaming is heavily reliant on a wifi connection and it *needs* a good one. Another person watching Netflix on the same network can completely ruin your game experience, especially with GeForce Now. The Steam Deck has none of these limitations. It can play Elden Ring, Red Dead Redemption 2, Cyberpunk 2077, etc wherever you want.
Third, most people don't want to run power hungry games on a device that they need to make it through the entire day. While a lot of people do carry a charger/battery bank with them, most people will be annoyed if they actually have to plug their phone into it. Having a separate device is more convenient. (The Steam Deck does have a notoriously short battery life at around 1-2 hours, but I've never been in a situation where I was using the Deck for more than 30 minutes and didn't have some kind of plug in available. Unlike a phone, you are considerably less mobile when using a Steam Deck and it's not something you need to bring with you around a building once you've put your bag down.)
Fourth, the Steam Deck isn't competing with your phone. It *really* doesn't have to. To put things into perspective, phone processors performance are measured in *giga*flops and the Steam Deck's APU performance is measured in *tera*flops.
You're essentially arguing that the Flintstone mobile is a better option than the Toyota Corolla.
Gamesir? Yessir!
i love steam link so useful when i want to play games wile lying in bed
I am actually watching this on my steam deck 🤣 no joke.
The only disadvantage with the steam deck is quite litterally its battery life.
Tbf only triple a games. Persona 5 royal got almost 5 hours.
There are these crazy things called power banks…
btw, you can also make another video called "a better nintendo switch", with the same video like this but you are playing nintendo switch games on mobile using Skyline Nintendo Switch emulator
Just not the same with streaming services, unstable lag, latency etc.
I salute you sir. Love your sense of humor. Great alternative for gamers trying to save money. Don't let the FOMO get to you. If you don't need a Steam Deck, don't get it. However, in case you didn't know, steam also allows your store credit to be used towards the purchase of a Steam Deck.
Thanks buddy! I ALMOST bought one several times throughout the recent sale. Now that it's done I'm glad I didn't 😅
@@TechDweebit’s nice but my ps4 has last of us
You can see the input latency while he's testing the streamed games. I cry.
My only issue with using my phone this way is it cuts into my phones battery life. Other than that (and the notification interruptions), you're right, it's a pretty good alternative.
Unless it's somebody with no PC, but why get a steamdeck at that point, not like they'd have the library to eenjoy it, lol.
Good point 👆
Some people play mobile games because their friends are on mobile. For single player games, PC/Steam Deck is the way to go, there are no good single player games on Android anyway, except for ports of 8+ years old games.
OMG There was a Steam Deck in my house... You need to get a Steam Deck... Im happy with my 64GB version
I'm convinced! Thanks
Cool. I’ll patiently await your “so I finally got a steam deck… my thoughts” video 😛
I just use the older gamesir, geforcenow and xcloud and have no complaints.
Meh. I do want to get a Gamesir sometime for my phone, but since phones can only really play Android games and emulators (which are technically android games by proxy), it's just not a priority for me. :3
I got this given that I already have a gaming laptop and didn't wanna invest in a steam deck. It is good quality, and the streaming experience is supprisingly good. like you, i had tried it in the past and was unsatisfied, but streaming elden ring was mindblowing this time with barely any latency.
only issue is, this made me want a stram deck even more.
there is something about the jankiness of plopping the phone in and out, and android not being very gaming focused that made it feel like this wasn't really the perfect experience. to sum it up, it's like the whole thing is less than the sum of it's parts.
however, I am grateful for it as it allowed me to realise I really do want a steam deck and will use it alot once it arrives(later today, yay!).
I think this is a good middle ground to dip your toes into handheld gaming, and will be a great gift for a friend that does not have a steam deck, but ultimately the steam deck is the end game if you can afford it. it would have been cheaper to just pull the trigger from the start!
Congrats on your deck! Yeah that's the way these things go, we buy the cheap version hoping it will save us $, then eventually buy the real thing and the cheap thing made us end up spending more $ in the big picture. Pun intended.
When did you order yours? I bought mine 2 days ago and haven't received a tracking number yet.
@@droopid8805 after ordering, it arrived to my doorstep in about three days. took a while to get the tracking number though. congratz, on your purchase. It's really a mind blowing device that is as good as the reviews make it seem :)
I have the black version and I love it so so so much. I use it as much as, if not more than my steam deck because it's definitely more portable. I take it everywhere I go if it fits in my backpack or handbag. I bought it because it was on discount (60EUR shipping included) and I really couldn't justify buying a retroid pocket device or an odin because I own two android phones. Dedicated one for gaming now and the experience is absolutely premium. Money very well spent. I even considered buying a second one for back up if the first one ever dies but I withheld myself fron doing that, lol. This thing is great, looks beautiful (much better than the bulky Gamesir x3 pro) and is wortg every penny!
I know the feeling, about wanting a backup in case the first one dies. I tried REALLY hard to get a 2nd miyoo mini because that's my all time favourite pocket device, but I didn't get one before they stopped making them. Now my single Mini is so precious to me I'm scared to take it out of the house 😳
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I used to use a Razer Kishi and really liked it Unfortunately the original Kishi doesn't fit on my RedMagic 7. So for now I use a phone stand and an Xbox controller. I do have a KT-R1 ordered though! Thanks for the video.