Is this the Best Rack-Mounted Pulley?
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- The Surplus Strength Universal Pulley is a cleverly designed rack-attached pulley system with some advantages and some disadvantages compared to other cable options. The system is made in the USA and it will fit a variety of racks.
Is it worth the money? Check the review and let me know below.
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I dunno how you made an 18 minute video for this, but boy am I in.
😂 thanks, brother
He says immediately after posting how he spent $4,400 on his Prime Fitness Single Stack
Did you two and coop plan on filming these videos together 🤣?
@@carloslaboy4279 I have this set up too and largely agree with what Adam says. However I just gave up on the rack attached options as I wanted a dedicated selectorized set up!
I have this on my Rogue, it's extremely good.
Great and detailed review. Thanks for putting so much into it.
Appreciate you, Stevie!!
Helped put these together by hand. Appreciate the honest and positive review. 🤘🏻
That's awesome, man. Thanks for watching and sharing that!
I see that your beard length and vid quality are trending in the same direction.
Solid video Adam as always! 💪🏽
Haha - Thanks, Jacob! Appreciate you, bud.
Just bought this a few weeks ago because it was the best option I could find for my 9x16 home gym. Thank you for validating my purchase!
Thanks for watching, Ryan!
Awesome! Great job on the oblongue hole for cross compatibility.
Thanks for watching, Devin!
This was a great review man. Very thorough and useful for the home gym community. I hope you get more subscribers.
Appreciate you watching and for the feedback, Shawn!
Another fantastic review. Truly. I'd been interested in the Rogue Slinger but don't have the ceiling for the added height. This will work for sure. Really pleased I came across your review.
Thanks so much for watching and offering feedback, Gareth! Glad it was helpful.
Pre ordered mine a few days ago .... extremely excited. Thanks for the review man
Happy to hear it, Chase! Let me know what you think after you’ve had a chance to use it.
Great video Adam! Always high quality
Thank you, Alex! Appreciate you.
Great review! The UPS definitely has a lot of promise, as it's a really well built option, and helps move the weight into the middle of your rack away from the posts. Definitely a little more than I could pay for it right now and will have to stick with my Spud pulley system. But if I had $600 to burn, I"d definitely pick it up for sure. The guys over at Surplus Strength are top notch too!
Agreed, Marc! Thanks for watching and commenting, my friend.
Ridiculous price. But still looking forwards to your prime attachment review video!
Been thinking about this one, nice review 🤙🏼
Thanks for watching and commenting, Roberto!
Love your videos! Love what you are doing!
Thank you, my friend!
I've been thinking about building my own Coop squat and this would be perfect
Solid review brother. Clears up a lot of my questions and will consider adding it to the wishlist. Btw I can see some @basementbrandon influence in the vid 😂
Hahaha! Appreciate you watching, bud.
Thanks for the vid! Something that is rarely addressed is whether units like this restrict the cable's movement to downward only. Most of them do. I like the flexibility of doing facepulls and many other shoulder and back moments that are possible when the cable can be pulled outward (horizontal) as well as downward. There is so much more you can do with lat pulldown mechanisms than just downward lat pulls. Many sports kinesiologists argue that pullups are superior to lat pulls anyway.
This is the reason that the front of the pulley is completely unrestricted on the UPS. Facepulls are perfect on the UPS! Thanks, Scott!!
You really want a functional trainer for that but then that is not really tall enough to do lat pulldowns if that is something important to you. I already have a functional trainer and if I sit on the ground and face outward for the pull down is sort of works but it's a bit of a pain to setup each time. So this will fill that gap for me I think (just ordered). And yes I do have a pull up bar which O agree is better overall. This is just another tool in the box and I think for $400 and the quality of it it's worth it with other options I'm the price range. The reviewer kept comparing to a pre fitness single stack which is unfair from a price point.
Great review! Finally got my UPS a few weeks ago and it’s life changing for a home gym owner with limited space!
How tall is your rack? I have a short 80" Rep PR-5000. Was wondering about the range of motion
@@r8der674 86” is my highest crossmember due to limited ceiling height in my basement. SS will custom cut your cable length but I’d reach out to them to see if there are limitations.
May also depend on your personal height and limb length. I’m 6’1” with long arms and I have to get pretty low to get a full stretch on lat pull downs.
I got mine and I absolutely love it. So smooth and a perfect set up.
Thanks for sharing, Brandon! Glad you like it, bud.
Also just to share, I totally agree with your video! I think it’s super versatile (I’ve never used a middle point for pulleys anyways) so I’ve been able to do everything with it, high row, low row, face pulls, triceps, biceps, lats, even some cable chops.
How long after ordering did you receive your system?
@@rambojohn7118 I think it was about a month. I was on the first preorder but Surplus was great about keeping in contact about timing.
I just ordered mine and can’t wait to get it. I like how I can customize it and it’s small footprint and quality …stay tuned! Lol
Thank you for that thorough review, love your vids. After watching this I’m sold on the UPS over the Rogue Slinger.
Thanks for watching, Victor! Appreciate the feedback and happy that the video helped 👊
Nice review!
Thanks, Edward!
Excellent review! I actually created my own using a pulley system and use chains to help assist with weight swing.
Thanks, buddy! Chains are a great way to help the sway, as are bands.
@@GarageGymLab pretty sure your garage gym cost more if not 1/2 of what people pay for a full house. LOLOLOLOL
Yeah this system should on other side of the low attachment have steel with a pin to attach a strong band to the weight for more stability and progressive resistance. Unhook it to quickly drop set! Just too damn expensive.@@GarageGymLab
Appreciate it the review. I actually bought this last night as I need a reasonable option for my rogue rack and the slinger was too tall (ceiling andy 108 rack). I've got a about 2-3inches of clearance to th ceiling hope it works! Ha! Great review! You helped me out with some questions. I didn't opt for the low row as while I see the high piece bullet proof and a tank the bottom is meh... Agree in your assessment if it were more solid like the prime of get it.
Another clear and precise review. Thank you. I was going to purchase a belt squat from REP and turn it upside down to make a lat pulley system but the surplus strength seem to be a better solution. BRAVO
Deepdirk
Appreciate you watching and for the feedback, bud.
Solid review of this! I have the Titan T3 series rack mounted pulley system. I reviewed in my garage gym tour!
Thanks, brother! I'll check out the tour!
@@GarageGymLab Appreciate it my man!
I always appreciate the thorough overviews!
Appreciate you, Travis!
Rich homie you getting RED or Black?
Very nice product. I think if you have a PR 5000 V2, in particular a six-post rack, it doesn’t make much sense since it doesn’t save you that much space. A PR 5000 owner is better off purchasing the REP lat pull down attachment for $349…and if they don’t already have the rear stabilizer, it is only $99 more. if you have a 4-post rack and space savings is a most, then this universal pulley should definitely be considered.
Also should mention veteran owned business. Great review. And glad they collaborated with you.
Cheers, Ryan. Good call on mentioning the veteran-ownership. Appreciate you watching.
This guy should be a college professor. Very well-put video!
I love the idea of this product (doesn’t interfere with your side safeties, etc like the slinger does) but my rack is on a platform so I have roughly 2ft before a 2 inch drop happens on the floor from the platform to the floor.
Not sure if this will allow me to utilize this piece like I’d truly want to.
I got one I the first pre order and love it! Great. For my small space one car garage
Thanks for sharing, bud! Glad you're loving it.
Hello, good video! The longer the space between pulleys the less susceptible to sway?
Another awesome video! I built a 1,000 sf home gym but don’t have the ceiling height nor all the sick equipment that you do! A little jealous.....
Quick question. I have a Cybex Bravo dual cable system & was wondering if you knew what the weight ratio for that is (I never knew what it was), and if you have any thoughts on if there are any attachments available that are worth picking up for it?
Thanks bud. I believe you can get it in both. Best way to check is to pull the pulley out 1 foot. If the weight stack goes up by ~6 inches, then you have a 2:1. If it’s 3 inches, you have a 4:1.
Hi Adam, thanks for the great review. I feel like you are always honest and unbiased in your reviews and are pretty much will only watch you and @basementbrandon now. This is a great idea but it seems like the cost is pretty high for what you get. I was able to make my own version for about $50 or $60 and it has less sway because I put pulleys on both cross members.
Thanks for the kind words, Wayne! Really appreciate it. Sounds like a really cool setup you have. Would love to see it. Shoot me a pic on IG or at adam@garagegymlab.com. Cheers, bud.
No Coop! He is the man!
Thanks for this!
Long shot… but any idea if the prime fitness bars (short bar) with their handles would be too long for rows?
Any recommendations on leg attachments? Feel like i can't find much. I have a bench with a leg extension and did some mods on it. Other then that i feel like I'm doing the same leg workouts D= Nice videos! Keep it up! you got another follow ^_^
Thanks, brother! In terms of leg attachments, you can look into something like the Williams Strength Rack-Mounted Leg Curl for standing hamstring work. Nice piece. Other than that, I don't have too much beyond what you listed with the bench attachments. More reason to do squat and deadlift variations :)
Nothing more frustrating then not being able to get it in. Lol
lol :P
What we’re seeing here is the big brands have either chosen not to do this to help sell their other products or they’re missing a really cool product from their lineup. The fact any of these units sold for this insane price proves people want a cable option that spans the sides of their rack. Myself included. I appreciate the company for innovating but since I have skills and tools I will have fun making my own exactly how I prefer for a fraction of the cost. Had this been half as much then I would have bought it considering my time is worth something.
So clean if you’re saving in Space!
Agreed! Thanks for watching, Simon!
Still trying to pull the trigger on this vs the rogue slinger
I like this option a lot. Excellent review. In my opinion, not worth $600... at all. But for those looking to burn $600 and do not have space for a plate loaded lat pulldown, a good alternative.
Thanks for watching, Michael!
I've been looking for a good lat pull machine for my basement gym. And while I wouldn't mind paying a few grand for a solid piece of equipment, the UPS is going to save me some space and a lot of money. Ordered mine yesterday after watching this video, and I'm glad, because I can stop trying to figure out how to pay for a Prime Single Stack.
Thanks for watching! Let me know what you think when you get it.
@@GarageGymLab So it has been a minute, but I figured I would follow up having used the UPS for a few months now. First of all, the unit is solid. It matches my Rogue rack in terms of look and feel, and I haven't noticed any wobble during use. The pulley system is also incredibly smooth. I had been using a plate loaded lat tower before I bought this, and the lack of drag or resistance in the UPS immediately stood out. Overall I am very pleased. I get a full range of motion on my lat pulls now (which was the main reason I bought this) and got to customize my rack at the same time. Supporting American manufacturing was also a bonus.
@@greenrevenantx this is great to hear! Glad you’re liking it.
Awesome review! I've been looking at these for a few weeks now and hoping to get one soon but they are out of stock for the 5/8th in holes. I have a question that I'm hoping you can help me figure out. In your video you say an ideal height for this attachment would be around 80-90in but I have a RML-3WC which has a cross member's height of 72 in high. If I were to sit on the ground instead of on a bench and grab a Rep 4000 leg roller so to keep my legs down, do you think that would work to do lat pull down's? 🤔Thanks in advance for helping me figure this out!
Sitting on the ground would definitely help your range of motion on a 72" rack. You could also set up bands on pegs to keep your legs down if you didn't want to grab the rollers.
And....... inventory has now been replenished for 5/8th holes on our site.
great review bro! did you get any damage to your cross member using the non uhm version?
Hey bud. Thanks for watching. Not much at all. Thankfully that won’t be an issue for anyone else!
Great review! Question please. I will use at the front of my rouge monster rM4 I don’t have space on the sides nor the back. The crossmember from upper crossmember is 84inches I think I can use the hip trust from rogue to stabilize myself correct when doing seated lat pull downs ? Now I will also like to ge the low pulley system but here is the my issue since I will use in the front of the rack I don’t have a bottom cross member to mount to but will like to get the rogue bench prop with the mini feet since is basically a adjustable bottom crossmember. this adjustable crossmember won’t be in line with the upper crossmember of the rack, so will that impact the cable length I will need to order for the low pulley system? If so how will I measure the correct length I will need? Do I need to add a couple of inches?
Any idea when the 2x3 model is going to come out? I’m super stoked for this
Hey bud. I’m not sure of the exact date, but I believe it will be very soon.
We ordered the 1st run of 2x3 spacers today....Stay tuned!
I'm very interested in the UPS, but I need to see it mounted onto a Rogue SML-2 or HR-2 first.
14:55 picture of it on the rhino. I see that you have the long portion sticking off the front and small end twards the rear portion of the rack. If I had a 4 post, mounted this attachment the opposite way your still is: small end of this attachment off the front and long end into the middle of the rack. Do you think using leg rollers on the front 2 uprights would provide a proper pull for lat pulls? Or do you think how ever far out the shorter end sticks out would cause it to feel like you are pulling at an angle maybe mid head or something?
Just got mine today in hot red. The unit is solid and built like a tank.
When did you order yours?
just about the end of April, it took about 8 weeks and it came in as advertised. is a really nice unit.
Nice one. Which handle attachment are using for bicep curls ?
Hey bud. It’s the tsunami multi-bar. Great attachment.
Thanks
I just bought the rogue SML2. What pulley system can I add to it?
Pretty awesome! What is the pulldown/row bar you're using?
Hey Harold! It’s the 4-in-1 from prime fitness.
Thank you! I'm sure some frenzied Googling would've found it but I've gotten covid lazy. 😆
@@HaroldCundal haha! I hear you.
If you had a rep fitness rack, would you get this or the rep one?
Can anyone advise how many holes apart the bolts or mounting pins are on a 3x3 with 1 inch holes? For example the bolts go in holes number #1 and # 4 or #1 and #5? TIA
Hey, nice review. I have the Rogue RML 390F which has the bottom crossmember flush with the floor. Would that mean the low pulley system wouldn't be compatible?
I have the same rack. You'd need to purchase a cross-member, install it between your uprights, and mount it to that. Not sure if the bolts would be long enough; might even have to remove the inside triangular gussets, which probably wouldn't be a great idea.
any chance if you know this will fit ROGUE RML -3W FOLDABLE RACK?
How does this hold up to the Rep lat/ row? I have a Rep pr 5000 v2 93” and am considering a rack mounted one. Great vid as always 👍
Hey Danny. Thanks for the comment. Functionally it feels pretty similar although there are some pros and cons of each. Loading the REP piece is easier since it's not a vertical load. The Rep piece does require more space though since it adds 27" to your rack. The Rep piece is also cheaper and there is no risk of plate sway due to the guide rod. Both are really good options for the PR-5000. I think it comes down ultimately to budget and the amount of space you can allocate. If you have a bigger budget and space is important, I would go with the Surplus. Otherwise the REP Piece will do very nicely.
@@GarageGymLab Great info thank you! I’m lucky enough that space isn’t too much of an issue so the functionally is what’s important most to me. There’s that little voice in the back of my head that’s still saying buy once cry once and get a prime fitness stack lol
Can the low UPS be attached on the Rogue Monster RM-390F?
Surplus Strength UPS High saves space & makes a big impact! SOLID - well built in USA & fits 3x3 rack perfectly SMOOTH - minimal sway & feels like the pricey lat machine at the gym SPACE-SAVING - don't need to buy a standalone lat machine & gets more use out my existing rack COMPACT - easy to remove/store or leave on the rack CUSTOM - UPS orange pins match rack's orange pins COST - superior product that should last a lifetime - supports the inventor, veteran & American manufacturing
Hey, you mention the rep pr5000 v2 having variances that are addressed with the long hole for the foot piece, but what about the top part? Does the newer version of the top part have the long hole, or is it incompatible with the rep?
Hey Tom. It’s all compatible. I just have the original top unit so it has two round holes. The production version has one round and one long on both high pulley and low.
How do you use a squat cage?
Cool product. I have a flat foot X3. NOTHING is comparable with it.
The UPS is!! BOOM!
What are your thoughts on the SS pulley compared to rack-mounted pulleys, like the Rep PR-4000 lat pulldown?
Hey bud. Pretty similar in terms of feel. Since rep is on a guide rod you get zero sway. Plate loading is also easier on rep since it’s horizontal. It’s also cheaper, but it takes up more space on your rack. Both are nice options.
Great review…. Using it side mounted can you use flip down safeties to secure your legs? Thanks
Thanks for watching! You can, yes, but I recommend straps or tucking your feet under the bottom crossmember. More comfortable and better positioning, in my experience.
@@GarageGymLab Thanks for the reply. I listened to your podcast today on The Home Gym Podcast. Entertaining and helped get me through my 9 mile run.
Do the feet under the low beam secure you well enough? I’m asking because I’m debating on getting spotter arms to attach leg rollers to. I don’t see myself needing the spotter arms for much else.
So it’s a $350 question 🤣
Should this work on a half rack?
Very cool and definitely better than an econo pulley but wow....pricey. You can get a somewhat decent full lat pulldown / low row for less...albeit not as compact.
Amazing content fellow big sock owner 😂👌👌
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"Since there's nothing worse than not being able to get it in..." lol.
I wish the demonstration showed the UPS in the frame. Im concerned about the actual unit rocking when attached to my rhino.
There’s no rocking at all. The UHMW plus pins keep it very secure.
My garage space is so limited that I had given up on any lat/low row until I saw the UPS. The fact that it doesn’t take up any extra space or cause me to pull out my rack makes it worth the cost for me.
Thanks for sharing, Chris!
Right! Love the Humor! 🤣
Having a Titan X-3 flat foot, I don't see a way to make this work. Titan doesn't sell a 30 in side rail to mount for the low pulley option.
My surplus strength ups high arrived yesterday after waiting for it for two months. It is disappointing. The machining is sloppy with nearly a 1/16" of an inch gap between the uhmw and the bar. It rattles all over the cross piece. The bolt area has no support behind it all. I sent a mail to Jason (the owner) to discuss. At first, I mailed an automated email with a no-reply address without realizing it. When I didn't get a response, I sent it a second time to the correct address. Jason was noticeably upset in his response that I hadn't waited 24 hours for a response. It seems the "no-reply" address did go to him. He offered to send me some tape to fix it. My impression: don't bother with this thing. Rack mounted gliders like the Bully Glyder are a much better option. I personally have that device and it is incredibly well made and smooth. Fits perfectly with no slop. I'm glad I didn't bother to order the ups low or the upgraded pulleys.
If both were $400 total vs $600, it would be a no brainer. Also I think in the production run it has all plastic/nylon pulleys vs metal. Which for $600 I think the metal pulleys are more appropriate. It is a cool concept and unique. Only downside is I am not sure that I could use it on my flat foot rack without buying another Rogue support beam. Which then limits me to front and back only.
That's a good point about the flat foot racks, Cameron. I can't say from experience if side-mounting would pose a significant tipping risk.
What? Production run is nylon. I just ordered 3 aluminum pulleys with bearings that look identical to the ones in this video. $60 Amazon prime. I’ll go to my steel yard and get an off cut 3x3 for $20 that spans the whole width plus the radius of my plates so the loading pin sits outside of rack. Couple hrs in garage having fun and I’ll have something similar. Plus I can make the low row higher up so it’s closer to commercial machines. But if this were cheaper I would have just bought it.
Just went to the site. $660 for both attachments and the cable. While cheaper than a dedicated high/low pulley machine..... you can find one for $1500 or so. Yes that's 3x the price of this setup.... but a dedicated machine will be better. I think this is a great setup. Just not for me. If you're space is about the size of a walk in closet though this would be for you. I've never used let alone seen this thing in person and if someone with limited space asked me how they can get a high/ low pulley setup in their tiny... TINY space I'd recommend this. To everyone else though with space.... I'd say save up a spring for a dedicated hig low pulley machine.... or save up even more and get a QUALITY legitimately commercial rated functional trainer. And if you have the space... a legit cable crossover machine. And if you have the space and money is no object... a cable crossover machine WITH a high/ low pulley setup on one side of said machine. Honestly, if you're space is in your garage, assuming you don't have an itty bitty garage, almost everyone can fit a cable crossover machine in their space. They're only about 3 feet deep and you can store your dumbbells directly underneath it since to use it you'll be standing in front of it anyways. Think if it as a 12-15 foot long dumbbell rack. And you can still hang stuff on the wall behind the crossover machine and have access to it. So while they seem massive.... I think full blown cable crossover machines are actually more practical than any other option.... so long as you have the 12-15 foot space to accommodate the length. Otherwise it's footprint is relatively small. It's just a steel structure that sticks out 3 feet on average from the wall. You can still work underneath it/ between the uprights with ease and have access to the wall you put it up against for wall storage.
Uhhh just bought last night for 400 + 50 shipping. Also no tax BTW which cover shipping imo
How smooth are the pulleys? Does it feel like gym grade ?
Pulleys are very smooth - very much gym grade.
The beard looks good.
Appreciate ya, Jeff!
Would the point of the foot plate just be to have the ball of your foot planted? Not the entire foot? That should provide sufficient stability.
I think there’s something to that. While I would prefer the whole foot, I’d rather have just the balls of my feet vs just the mid foot and heel.
I want one so bad, but that price!
I hear you, Matt. Quality piece, but pricey.
If Rogue would do a simple lat pull-down like Rep and Titan then this product would have no market. For the price and a guy like me looking at buying a new rack it makes no sense to not get a PR5000 with lat pull-down.
The product looks really nice, but costs 63% of what I paid for my Rogue Monster Rack... I won't say it isn't worth it, but I'd rather save for a single stack. I was honestly on board with the product until you mentioned the price.
Really? 400 vs how much for a single stack 3k?
You wouldn't recommend the UPS for the Rep fitness PR-5000 short rack 80" tall? I'm only 5'9 but I'm questioning the range in motion.
lol i’m having the same exact issue I also have a 80” rack. Were you planning on side mounting it?
@@kellerv.602 I was thinking on the Rep fitness logo upright. Not side mounted because mine reach 76" as to 80" on the logo. Since then I just made a DIY pulley and attached it to my pull up bar. I can remove it or attach it within 3min. Paying $500 for uncertainty was a no for me.
@@r8der674 yea i have something similar and still am considering the UPS but holding back currently because of the price
@@kellerv.602 yeah the reason my cross members are 76" is I dropped them 1 hole so they could be slightly lower. Then I added weight storage pins at the top of them I did it because they don't interfere with me up there and I like my rack as 4 post.
@@kellerv.602 and I think if the UPS was like $350 I'd take a chance...but for $500 I'd like to see a video of it in use in shorter racks like 80".
What a massive miss on price. At this price it’s not a for sure thing over say a Titan plate loaded tower (~$450). Could dominate the market with a more response price point.
Agreed man. I may as well build my own for $100 and a couple hrs. If it were $350 I would just buy this.
This would be exactly what I’ve been looking for but my rack has no holes in it to push he mounting pins through. 😡 I hope something similar comes along cause I will buy it. I REALLY REALLY WANT THIS WHAT DO I DO?
Can you drill holes? What tube size do you have?
@@GarageGymLab I was contemplating drilling, but am slightly concerned with weakening the structure. It’s a robust rack that has been retired from a hotel chain fitness gym I think....Does Magnum ring a bell? The crossmember is 2” thick. Not sure if it would work. Been looking for a pulley system for lats rows crossovers and leg and hamstring curls for a while now. Thanks for responding
@@GarageGymLab I’m a new sub and I dig the channel
@@michaelwhittaker5624 I appreciate you, Michael. Are both side 2" or is one side 3"?
@@GarageGymLab so it measures 2” on all sides. 2” h. X 2” w.
Don't like the flimsy footplate, otherwise pretty good.
Agreed. I’m surprised there aren’t any gussets on that bottom inside bend. Over time that bottom corner bend will soften up. Looks like they start with a single piece of sheet steel, cut holes on laser and the bend it. Kinda cheap if you ask me for a premium priced product.
Totally off topic, but Squatmax discontinuing that rack mounted version was a terrible choice!
The rack-mounted is awesome - I think it might make a comeback based on some feedback I've heard. I will say the new version of the standalone is roughly the same size and it offers some unique features compared to the older rack-mount. Would love for them to bring those features (seat and rotating pad for rows, etc...) to a new rack-mounted version though.
You had me at "oblong hole."
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@@GarageGymLab In all seriousness, I'm looking for a way to add cable exercises to my home gym, but have limited space (half the garage). This looks really promising. And great, detailed review. Cheers.
@@mskerr187 appreciate the feedback and kind words, Michael! Means a lot.
$750 for the whole thing with shipping/taxes is a great deal! Thank you for the review Adam! I was torn between buying a TSS Lat/low or something more cost friendly.
Cheers, Stewart. Thanks for watching and commenting!
for $750 you might as well just buy a bowflex machine
@@GetUnwoke For those of us without the floor space for a dedicated cable system, the UPS is a good thing.
That is a rip off price. I could buy a stand only cable machine for less than half. Its one thing for a company to say we have a premium product and will charge a premium for it. BUT ITS NOT A PREMIUM PRODUCT. The cost to make this is like $50-80 in material. Its does one motion, it has 1 purpose. Thats not worth what they say is premium.
Agreed. That’s why I’m building my own for around $100. Would be cheaper if I didn’t have to pay full retail. Just a matter of time before someone else will make the same thing for half the price and same quality.
Right...
I think the wall mounted cable towers from companies like Titan and Archon are much better options than this. They don't take up much space and offer a ton of variety over a high/low pulley like this, especially the dual pulley options. You may be able to rig up a more proper lat pulldown with the UPS system but I've been able to do them sitting on the floor with my Archon dual pulley tower which is also easier + faster to setup and is half the cost.
Those are definitely nice options. Appreciate the comment, Kevin!
Naaaa agree to disagree here... :)
Slightly overpriced, but in regards to being compact, portable and heavy duty, it looks to be a magnificent option if you're prepared to pay up. End of the day, it'll still be way cheaper than most stand alone stack options, while saving space on plate loaded options, space is a premium in the garage/basement etc.
I find many racks let themselves down in some way come lat attachments
They're either
1. Cheaply made and break down eventually
2. Offer poor ROM
3. Eat up a ton of space at the back of your rack, thus either extending the footprint of the rack (particularly plate loaded options), or eats up the internal depth of the rack, thus cutting into space where a spotter might stand for benching or something.
I've looked at many racks with lat attachments but the main flaw I find is the minimal space for a bench spotter, then the other reasons is cables fraying/rubbing and poor ROM being a tall guy, so for the meantime I use bands for tricep work, facepulls and pullovers on my chin up bar and will likely grab a cheap pulley option in the next few weeks to prolong my bands which have copped a beating over the last 15+ months so I can do some light-medium pulldowns on the floor.
But this type of thing I could definitely get around whenever I upgrade my squat rack. Would allow for a separate stand alone machine or more storage options in my set up instead of dedicating a space for a pulldown
Too pricey I got a powertec lat pull down same futures 200 pounds for 700 like new and it works fine doesn’t take a lot of space I don’t got to be putting it on and off
For that price just get a stand-alone Titan plate-loaded lat tower.
If you have the space, that’s a nice option
TOOOOOOO EEEXXPEENSSIVVE!!!!!
Nice product if it was $200-$300 meaning $300 to your door.
I can get a nice plate loaded lat pulldown/low row for $500-$700 so why in the world would ANYBODY spend that much on a basically high DIY system. I wish Surplus Strength well and hope they make it but at their prices I dont think they will be around for very long. Surplus Strength, listen to me, Got to lower your prices or your venture is gonna be short lived. Just an honest opinion. Only rich people where money is no option would buy this and how many of those people have a home gym. Not too many so stay in business and lower your prices, if not REP and Titan are gonna end your journey
This doesn't seem worth it if you have a Rep PR4000 like I do myself. I can get the lat pull down/low row attachment to my rack and it'll be $200 plus less than these two.
Comes down to space, mainly. If working with a tighter space, this system you don’t have to add off the back permanently. But I agree overall - if you have the space the REP system makes complete sense.
Just get the rep fitness lat pull down attachment less hassle and way better than this
Did you wind up purchasing the one from REP? Happy with their product? Ty
Still no 2 by 3
I was on board until I heard the price. Big oof. Looks like a high quality, nice piece of equipment though.
you were being way more aggressive with the other pulley system side by side. and $400 for that mount (!!?!?!) , you might as well just buy a power rack attachment AND a power rack or a lat machine for half that price or a home gym system.
Those were the same setups. Was just showing how aggressive you had to be to create sway.
cool product. Not worth the cost, to me. Thats more than I paid for my entire cage! you do you.