These Planes Are Propelled With Ionic Thrust
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- In this video I show you how to create ionic thrust using electrodynamics to create air flow with no moving parts. I show you how ionic wind is produced in order to make ionocrafts and lifters fly. I also talk about ion thrusters used in space. I test if they work in a vacuum.
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Literally no CZcams video has ever started with a more compelling intro than "today I'm going to show you how to make an ion propulsion jet".
253 likes and no comments?!
Me:FINE I WILL DO IT MYSELF
Hell yeah
"Hey vsauce michael here"
We all have ionic jets now.
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Love that you have the SparKit Wimshurst! That's a cool little powersource, designed by a 14 year old in New Zealand.
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Hopefully someday a person with the vast knowledge you two have will build a controller and run a hyperdrive system like Gerard Morin was trying to build, if the electric companies can use their skin effect energy to pull the ionic energy out of the atmosphere to feed our transformers, building a frequency controller to run the edrum motors should be no problem.
You just explained ion propulsion in 2 minutes. I've spent hours watching probably boring space engineering videos and never understood. Legend
I'm really into aviation. Planes using cheap and effective methods of propulsion sounds just awesome.
@@ooneybird27I suggest you watch “keys to the truth” “how top gun fighter jets fly”
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@@insectbite1714 are you drunk or having a stroke maybe both and stupid
Science will never run out of content
For some more infos on the ion thrusters on spacecrafts:
In comparison to chemical rockets the exhaust speed can be way higher (exhaust speed correlates to efficiency).
They are already used on satellites.
They have a low TWR meaning they produce very little thrust in comparison to their mass.
The gas used is mainly xenon and doesn’t contain any energy that is used for propulsion, it’s just used as mass that can be thrown away(to create thrust ).
The energy comes from solar arrays / batteries.
Yes, that sounds correct. Question is what is the MPG equivelent of Xenon they are carrying. Several orders of magnitude higher than molecular combusion IIRC.
Mass that can be thrown away ?
Thats a tiny bit flippant sorry.
That tiny bit must be taken with and also gives a finite travel distance.
Both the main reasons ion is touted as better this test just shows it fails on.
Ah shit
@@jemlittle1787 Mass that can be thrown away is the way all space travel works. You move by throwing away the uninteresting bit (the fuel) to move the interesting bit (the spacecraft) somewhere else. Conservation of momentum requires this. Thankfully, there is no Conservation of Interesting Bits. In fact, the center of mass for the spacecraft and fuel remains stationary, at least barring outside interference, and the fuel just ends up over here somewhere, and the spacecraft ends up over there somewhere. The question is exactly how efficiently can you convert into movement the throwing away of the uninteresting bit. Conventional rockets are not very efficient, ion thrusters are very efficient.
Xenon provides the mass associated with its density( heavier than other nobel gases / elements) also bioavailability of Xenon requires no catalyst; be used as a zero point energy source
That explanation was incredible. Concise, but very easy to follow. I understood it right away.
What a cool concept! It’s crazy to think that you can propel something with just electricity and no moving parts.
Yeah here on Earth
@@melissaflood505 *cough* oxidizer *cough*
@@poggergen1937 lmao!
What more crazy is. We got now the technology to have unlimited energy the man replicate the power of the sun light and converted into electricity.
why is that crazy?
I've seen things like this before, THANK YOU for a down to Earth explanation of what ionic thrust can and can not do.......
If you were my physics professor, I wouldn’t ever leave class.
Yup
Go home, the graduation ceremony ended 4 years ago
I had a pretty cool physics instructor...it’s fun to continue learning by a hands-on CZcamsr.
Ikr
My graduation ceremony will START 4 years seriously
That's a whole new engine race. Ion engines, size, thrust, speed records, the whole game. Usage ideas like secondary engines, or stage related concepts. This is exactly what we need to focus on for any and all aspects of travel. Make it happen.
Providing of course the petro industry and the politicians connected to them don't fight to slow it down like the joke of a president Bush, Jr. and Cheney. They did everything they could to slow non petrol fuel source development while pushing petro dependency. That is only one of the reasons that the U.S. is still stuck in stasis with no real impacting developments since the turn of the century.
@@datatwo7405 Well, I'm a supporter of seeing the Petro industry taking the lead on this sort of venture. While they figure out the science of it, we'll buy big trucks and gas guzzlers as incentive to lead to something better. My position is to support the expansion and growth of the current industry throughout the process which frees us from that burden. They've got tons of funds, and some of the smartest guys on the planet, so there's no reason they couldn't flood our markets with infrastructure funds and investment opportunities. If we keep them on our side, they'll be sure to keep us with new engines. There will always be an oil industry, but who knows, they might find that diversification of resources earns them even bigger rewards.
That’s a while away, there are many loose ends there.
It's INCREDIBLY inefficient. First of all you need high voltage, which means heavy batteries and tons of power. And the heavier battery, the harder it is to move the object. Think about how much power you would need to push a car uphill with wind, then think about how heavy your power source would have to be to give that much thrust. Now put that battery pack onto the car and it's too heavy to push again.
@@ringofasho7721 good explanation
Thanks for the insight on this topic. I have a -15Kv power box as a negative ion generator. Did ion wind experiments as well with it. Was supposed to be anti gravity plates, the blueprint. My voltage was too low, plates too small and no glass insulation between them. Cardboard doesn't do so great
Do you know how hot the flame gets? Thanks :)
amazing, thank you so much for explaining this so clearly and practically
I love the fact you 3D printed some no mans sky spaceships to use as planes, great little Easter egg there lol. (They also use ionic propulsion in the game, for those that dont already know)
@Maxime Schweitzer same ngl
Does it say in the description, or is tritium/di-hydrogen a fuel source for ion engines?
@@EchoNovemberDelter tritium and dihydrogen are highly ionized substances, that's all I know. Lol
We use fuel that we build and discovery most of the museum of alien life 4k video ourselves
It's the alpha vector
What a great introduction! Went straight to the basement to get my diy-stuff ready. Can you please show us how to make or own fusion reactor next time? This would be dope!
all you need is uranium, boron or cadmium, steam turbine, and generator. you have now achived nulear power plant be sure to slow down uranium with boron or cadmium or you will blow off the Earth be sure to be careful
Just found this and am amazed, thanks so much for teaching/sharing!
"Hi everyone, today I'm going to be showing you how to make an ion propulsion jet."
He said as if we had the same level of equipments to follow along.
In our imagination, everything is possible and every equipments can be found even the outer space ones.
You have a fork and an outlet dont you?
You know what to do
@@Quagula : You also want to build a step-up coil for that sort of thing. Fortunately, plenty of places sell AC-voltage wire.
@@Quagula hehe bad memories trying that one
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That purple aurora off the back of those thing is incredible! Well done! Very impressive.
I assumed the thumbnail was an exaggerated illustration. But Prof. Orgill NEVER disappoints.
And 3...2...1...
The glowy, purple ion thrust was simply wonderful! Another great episode from Action Lab :(
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Boring physics & chemistry at schools but now I'm curious to know physics and chemistry here😂. Our school syllabus are outdated 😂😂😂
Exactly 100% correct👍😁
But they are the base
@@qureius494 i agree. Even though they are tough classes, having a foundation in them makes these videos much easier to grasp, as well as allowing the viewer to make their own guesses/ hypotheses about the experiments
Syllabi*
Him: the reason it's spinning in a circle....
Me, an intellectual: is because it's hard to spin in a square
Very funny
Sounds crazy, but it can be done (ish): czcams.com/video/hC0QjGbMUHI/video.html
Technically the truth
@@williamchamberlain2263
They did it
they actually spun on a square
@@davisdf3064 crazy isn't it?
Man! We need professor like him ….he is best in teaching
This is the kind of technology I’ve been talking about for years now, this will change the evaluation of aircraft flight. This is the future.
This would make a great plasma ball type toy. Would be sick if you could have an x-wing chasing a Tie fighter.
Especially because a the 'TIE' in TIE fighter stands for 'Twin Ion Engines'!
@@JJ_Binks that’s dope
@@JJ_Binks sickkk
@@JJ_Binks Actually George Lucas just called them TIE fighters because they looked like bow-ties.
@@Toodoi That's not as cool as 'Twin Ion Engines". I'm going with the cooler definition even if it might be incorrect.
Those two little aircraft chasing each other is the most badass thing I’ve seen today.
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This is incredible technology! Thanks for sharing, your break downs are always very easy to understand, while still giving great detail. 😁
@simpsons Bart what are you talking about my dude?? There's no gas in the vacuum of space, but there's gas within atmospheres all over the place. 🤷♀
This video served me to develop my high school monography. I’m SO grateful this dude made this video
I need to add this to my x wing and tie fighter figures.
good luck my friend
@@Carlo99yehey twin ION ENGINE
Me, at work on a break: ah yes, wonderful stuff *sipping my soda in lalaland*
Well...that just took the trophy for the coolest thing I've seen in a long time.
Thanks. I knew this was possible 10 years ago but I still couldn't figure out the efficiency. I guess no one knows.. yet. Good luck for the awesome people developing that drone.
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Could you please share any circuit diagrams, voltages etc. that can help us replicate the experiment? Thanks for you awesome videos all the time. A physics teacher.
Just research online. This tech has been around for 40+ years. Found not even close to being effective.
Those permanent Tesla coil sparks might be dangerous, but video 5R9VlK2iSZ4 shows you can achieve the same static propeller effect with a Van de Graaff generator.
brobally not because it look suspect
@@ooneybird27 Kinetic energy of the propelled ions moves the device, similar to ion thrusters on satellites.
@@ooneybird27 It's much more efficient to propel the fuel with an ionic engine, rather than just the pressure of the gas - although many spacecraft do use pressurized gas maneuvering jets! Ionic propulsion produces much less thrust at once, meaning you can't accelerate very fast, but it's so much more efficient that you need a very small amount of fuel to propel the spacecraft. You just have to wait longer for it to get where you want it to.
I remember, when I was a pre-teen, our Childcraft encyclopedias had ionic propulsion explained. I always wanted to build something to show it. And I always wondered why spacecraft did not use it.
Very good explanation. Liked the clear visual experiments. I actually understood it all. Good job.
I worked during summer break whilst in college at a power supply (Space Shuttle flat CRT monitors, military displays, etc. - 15-30KV @ 1-4 microamps as I recall). We had an ionic sculpture with a spinning spiral wire balanced and spinning on pencil lead. This was connected to a high voltage power supply - it was pretty cool, wish I still had it.
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I wish I could of watched these videos back when I was at uni. Totally love it!
When I see technology like this being shown to me, it just makes me wonder exactly how far advanced our technology really is. I’m sure that there are top secret technologies that the government has created that are far note advanced. And if you can do this test on such a small scale I can only imagine what it’s like at a full scale. I am certain that we will be able to use this technology in the aeronautics industry and from what I’ve learned on other channels I know that there is an abundance of power surging in the upper atmosphere as low as 150 feet that planes can access without having to have a great deal of onboard energy cells.
Think levitation.
Philadelphia Experiment
The problem is scale. This works well enough on tiny things but once you start adding mass it gets uneventful very quickly. Think about an ant. Notoriously can carry fifty times its own weight but if you were to scale it up to the size of a car, it wouldn't be able to stand or lift its head.
Scale and gravity are a real kick in the crotch.
Exactly what I’ve been researching for 20 years now? Energy is never wasted, only transformed? There’s almost a endless amount of energy out there THAT HAS TO BE TAPPED?
Fighter Jets have using this tech since the end of ww2. Do you think the wings of a fighter jet could possibly carry the amount of fuel needed to power fighter jets? They use microwave plasma engines, look at the exhaust nozzle on the back of a fighter jet when it’s in action, no smoke, they are not burning fuel.
SpaceX's Starlink uses ion thrusters to coast in their orbit from when they are deployed.
howMuchTimeTheGasLastsInTheSatteliteUntilItsConsumed?
useYourSpaceBar
@@ovidius2000 WonderingSame...,OrWhereDoesGasComeFrom(Generated/Stored/etc)?
@@ovidius2000 At some point the satellites would just enter the atmosphere if out of fuel, no clue how long they would last
Ion thrusters are used in spaceflight since the 80's
Space engineers players: “hey, I’ve seen this one before, it’s a classic
Except in SE the ion thrusters work worse in the atmosphere.
@@dakat5131 its because se thrusters are hets
yeah until you bring forth the world
Very interesting! I saw a drown once recently with no moving parts. Looked like a stack of hot air furnace filters.
Thats a good idea, put this for everyone to see so all can give feedback from this so he can screen everyones idea to get something that does work for free.
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I know nothing but the absolute basics (probs even less than that) about propulsion systems......but I understood every word of this presentation....thank you Sir.
Best explanation I’ve seen so far.
So basically the reason why I'm so ass at going into an orbit in Kerbal Space Program is because I keep using thrusters that don't work in the vacuum of space 😂😂😂
Lmao if you’re using Ion thrusters they’re relatively weak for large crafts, they work fine though if I remember correctly.
@@thatoneguy9291 no ion thrusters are not powerful(in kerbal), probably they'll add more parameters(future updates) in sync with latest inventions...
Ion thrusters have incredible ISP and efficiency but TERRIBLE thrust to weight ratio.
ion engines in ksp only work in space
but they're really weak
Ion thrusters for space travel DO work in space. In fact their main usefulness is in space because they produce very little thrust for their weight so in the atmosphere they are pretty useless. However because there is no air drag in space the ion thruster's weak thrust can last for years because they are fuel efficient and a weak thrust over years ends up giving you more total acceleration than rocket engines.
So Ion Thrusters for modern spacetravel are mostly useful for long lasting missions.
Ooh, with a giant tesla coil we can make the Earth's orbit more eliptic or inclined. We might not have an atmosphere afterward, but it's an option for solving global warming. Well done, Action Lab.
When the answer is worst than the problem !
It will be just 300 ℃ during the day, so not sure hwo that solves our global warming problem. Maybe the -160 ℃ during the night will compensate for it.
I see this as an absolute win
You cant alter the movement of our planet without ejecting mass from it or moving mass closer or further from the center
@@mrono1910 That's why I suggested we might not have an atmosphere afterwards. (Now someone's going to calculate how mach deltaV the atmosphere's worth just to tell me my joke is nonsense)
Very cool indeed. The little purple jets at 4:00 are awesome. 👍
Thank you so much for doing the experiment.
I really like your videos! You explain things simple enough for everyone to understand, using some very nice visual experiments to do so.
I have an idea you can try out: Since light travels faster in a vacuum than in air, can you show light refracting in your vacuum chamber? You can shine a laser through it, see where it lands, then create a vacuum and watch the laser change course
Take it to the hadron collidor... and send it
Thank you for your explanation, now i know how those "bladeless fan" works
Excellent .Something to think about there.
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It would be interesting to see if a “ducted ion fan” could be made by recessing the needle into the airplane a little, and making the body of the plane hollow so that air can be accelerated throigh it.
I'm obsessed with ion anything. This is awesome 👍
This helps me understand the logic of ion propulsion jets for scifi stories 😩 the concept is just too interesting.
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All of a sudden bake beans and the farting scene in Blazing Saddles comes to mind as a gas source 😂😂
I would like to see your experimental setup mentioned in the video. What was the minimum voltage required? minimum current? What was the Force per Watt generated using a force (Newton) scale?
Fascinating. Thank you!
Ironic Propulsion : *Exists*
Vacuum Chamber : *I'm gonna end this man's whole career*
Ionic
Haha
Unlucky autocorrect
lol thats probably why his suit stops working at high altitudes
True ionic thrusters works in vacuum, they accelerate the gas and newton laws do the rest.
Finally, I understand how Hayabusa's engine worked!!
That was a cool, informative video. Thanks Action Lab, I feel smarter already.
This is the best explanation I ever found
I learn more from this CZcams channel than my entire life in school
It's how TIE fighters from Star Wars get their thrust. Twin Ion Engines.
Nice!
Could be wrong but that sounds way to weak
@@benisjammin8926 I want to make a *"I'm too weak!"* joke, but my real answer is it's Star Wars. George Lucas can do whatever he wants. =)
@@benisjammin8926 It's a fictional world 🤣
No oxygen is in space
Captured my attention from the first few words. Very nicely done 🎉
Imagine his small scale in comparison to the top secret ,highly advanced and classified ion technologies that must be currently in progress
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Even if this will prove to be impossible to engineer in any useful scales, this is a fascinating concept. Also, "ion thrust planes" has a good ring to it, haha.
It's funny to imagine a distant future when all aircrafts have been replaced with ion thruster propelled versions & the emission of greenhouse gasses is under control... but suddenly there's a new crisis of too much ozone building up in the atmosphere because of all the ion thrusters.
@@dr.zoidberg8666 yet there are chemicals that remove ozone and most planes fly in space or near space so the ozone will instantly escape
An idea: make this thing spin in water
Edit: if my math is right the propulsion would be nearly 16 times more than it was in air
just don't stick your fingers in the water while it's running...
I believe the viscosity is pretty high for water to make this work... Nice thought though...👍😃
Normally I'd say you'd be right, but the water would decompose into hydrogen and oxygen at that point.
@Deborah Ajao ion propulsion relies on ionization and water can only be ionized to a very small extent. At high voltages it becomes more likely that the water will electrolyse.
@Deborah Ajao it will but I doubt it would work well. At some point it's just going to split off into hydrogen and oxygen. You might get some passable thrust but nothing that could beat even the weakest of electric motors.
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That looks amazing!
That was amazing. I wonder how big, and how much energy you would need for a ionic jet to propel say a 80mm foam plane. Would be good to try.
look into "lifters" large but light structure using ionic breeze
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Ok
He explains it in a funnier way
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Ok we are going to do it
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excellent demonstration
superb. you finally give hope to an emerging technology. please make an updated video about this topic, i.e. ionic thrust. thanks very mooch!
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Thanks for a great video! I appreciate that you refrain from using technical language
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Fascinating! What sort of efficiency can these work at - thrust out/power in?
Just wanna say that you are still one of my favorite science channel. Keep it up man😁
I agree. Though I do miss "Hey, Vsauce! Michael here!", and I still love Veritasium, though that is a bit more academically in-depth. Action Lab is a great channel for teaching people not about science as much, but why they should *_enjoy_* learning about the sciences.
SO ... VERY ... COOOOOL !!!! Thanks for the demo !!!
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It sounds like what Iron Man used for his repulsers and thrusters.
Ya
Send this idea to blacksmith industries.
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This is AWESOME!
This is cool af!! Did anyone else notice that if you squint, the two little planes almost look like the original BSG vipers??
On the tesla coil, because it is AC, it is different. There, the increased pressure of the heated air (heated by the spark ) pushes the ships around.
Yes the heat definitely has a contribution to the planes spinning. But AC voltage also works with ionocrafts as well (although not as well as DC). I’ve seen a lifter (ionocraft) fly using a Tesla coil with no visible plasma. The neutral wind still occurs even with AC voltage because whether it is positive or negative the neutral wind moves in the same direction.
@@TheActionLab That is interesting! Thank for the answer!
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That sounds like a space mission
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