Sony a7S III Hands-on Review - What a HUGE Surprise This is...
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Sony a7SIII geni.us/IBRJ
00:00 Sponsored Message
00:05 Intro
02:29 Body Features
07:08 Video Features
07:49 Steadyshot and Rolling Shutter
10:29 Autofocus Improvements
11:52 What, no 8K?!
13:29 New colour science
14:04 15-Stops Dynamic Range
15:34 Low Light
16:34 4K 120!
17:25 OVERHEATING!
19:31 Conclusion
21:51 TL;DR
MUSIC
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06:46 - 07:06 🤣 I left a couple of product shots in there without music and VO, I must be not used to working on videos longer than 10 mins! 😆
CORRECTION Thanks Curtis Watson for noting that the settings (as mentioned by Dpreview) can be saved when switching from video to stills mode unlike I mentioned at 04:50
Started to check if my mobile speakers were broken or something
I thought that was an artistic B-roll shot to be honest, I'd say you'll get away with that. Establishing the next segment
Aaditya Brahmbhatt me too
I thought it was on purpose. It was actually quite nice. Silence is too rarely used, let alone used well.
For me I thought you we're going to transition about testing the mic of the camera given the silence of that scene plus clips of you attaching the mic to it. It's alright. :)
It's funny how most people commenting about the whole "it doesn't have 8K" will never even use or watch 8K content.
Most wouldn’t be able to edit 8k either lol 4k is perfectly fine with me
@@nickharrison211 I'm still not even able to edit 4k lol. At least not without lagging
@@nickharrison211 my old i5 4670 cpu couldn't run/watch 8K on CZcams or 8K videos downloaded from youtube. Watch it let alone edit 😅
Andy H. Tu lol I can but yea sometimes it lags
They will.... 10 years later when 8K TVs will also find some affordable pricing and they will look like absolute shit because they will be 8-bit 16.7Mil colors enabled and will offer 200 nits of brightness.
Love seeing cameras pushed to the level they're at right now. Although I'm not a Sony shooter, the entire industry really should thank Sony for pushing the industry. The specs here are crazy. The clip in the sony promo video of the dirt biker under the moon and stars is insane. Looking forward to seeing what people produce with this beast.
Very objective and sensible statement
Except for the unusable banding.
@@maximilianharper8573 that's primarily because of the phase detection points, under certain ambient lighting conditions they will cause some banding, this isn't a Sony issue though, my canon Eos R had the same problem in both stills and video, and I suspect Nikon z series has the same issue as well
Yeah, this clip is amazing!!!
Yes they are really pushing the industry with 12 mp
On the flip side of flap side 😆
Question for Lok and Kai,
1.Who is this 12MP Camera for. 2.What Purpose does this serve to the buyer over the Sony A7 III or Nikon Z6. 3. If photo taking is stupid on this (being 12MP) sensor why should we pay so much money for it.
4. If it Shoots 4k. Then How? Because the Sensor is 12MP. 5.Since Sensor is 12MP with 8 Micron pixels similarly How Arri Alexa has huge micron pixels, why does Sony A7S III Matter anyhow? Big Micron = bigger photosites but how does it matter to consumer because the sensor is 12MP.
@@mrvk699 MP count doesn't matter unless you're enlarging photos to print, I've seen clear pictures coming out of this sensor that are well usable, however, the alpha7S line is geared towards low light video recording. The lower megapixel count design helps with less noise at high ISO.
@@Vaigue But even if it's for low light video shooters. Doesn't the 12MP Sensor be a Limitation. Especially because the competition has 20.2MP(Z6) / 24MP(Sony) / 32MP (Canon)
@@mrvk699 check out potato jets video on it, he explains why the sensor is pretty great and he also goes into detail about the 10bit Slog3 modes for video that offers video like those big Sony cinema cameras.
@@Vaigue seen it man.
But I think these 12MP sensor cameras are like Phone Camera but on Heavy Steroids. E.g. Imagine a phone with a 35mm full frame sensor with only 12MP Camera and 8 Micron size Pixels. Great Concept. It's like Sony is sureforward looking ahead of putting these sensors in an Android Phone 5-10 years from now considering 8 Micron Meter pixels.
New sony menu system?
The world really is ending
*cries in old a7 menu system*
And touchable too..
Repent, sinner!
Glad that they got rid of the old, slow 2000's era menu.
Everything as changed after Covid...... EVERYTHING :D :D :D
Can’t wait for the a7iv so I can get a used a7iii for a cheaper price
Same tho. I have the a7ii rn
Atleast you guys have a camera
Christian Mesina haha good luck waiting
Its still gonna expensive af...
Its coming soon
i appreciate you do the long plug at the end and only a short one at the beginning. wish more youtubers would do it like you...
Who really needs 8K is the question. Especially when this shows us that we have not yet perfected 4K. Good on Sony for this. Thanks for the review.
Mark Wade black magic have 12 k cameras
VFX artists in hollywood, but for most consumers 4k is more than enough
I think 8k would be great for downsampling
no pls dont do 8k downsampling. the video quality will look like shit. for example the a7iii 6k downsampling requires alot more compression hence losing alot of a detail.
@@3firstnames903 that would be a good objective test to see what the quality improvement is, and is it worth the extra effort if in final rendering it is all lost anyway (youtube/facebook)
I watch reviews of cameras worth thousands but bank balance is below a $100 😂😂
Matome Ramphele same here
At least u can watch it !! back in the 80's there is no CZcams & u have not seen directors or filmmakers walking in the street & explain about their expensive gear ! 😁
@@SamayPhotography too much price
@@mumssonarzoon5409 not really.
LOL
Read my name
I'm keen to see how this performs with Astrophotography and the high ISO's
I bet u can record it in video realtime with fast lens. Watch potatojet video on a7siii
@@farisradzuan3796 ok thanks. I've some fast lenses on my A73 but this A7S3 looks crazy good
Tony Northrup got some good video of that recent comet straight on the camera, so it looked real good for Astro
Philip exactly man
See iJustine
Thank you so much for splitting up the sections as i didn't see the need to see info on the display and new menu for the 8529843 time today. Awesome info as always and thanks again!
thank you so much for doing more tests than usually!
1:47
You can see the exact moment that Kai distorts the cloak of space-time with its infinite power to travel between dimensions.
still using my A7s i after 4 years, very happy but looking for 4k raw.
same here, love my a7s but it’s time for an upgrade :)
me too !
same! Glad the wait is finally over.
I love your videos Kai. I rely on your honestly for making opinions about cameras! Keep it up.
Kai, you are always the best to watch for a good review and a good laugh !
🤣 “ why is it under the suitcase setting?!”
i wanted to change my gh5 or bmpcc4k but every time i see a new camera lately i just can't see such huge improvements. for 4k euros you get finally a 10bit 422 and the flip screen .
I sold out of my Gh5 and got rid of all my m4/3 stuff to get more depth of field, functional autofocus for gimbal work and better lowlight. Gh5 is still an awesome camera and I loved the menus but it feels limiting after a while
I agree the gh5 was ahead of it's time. Now we just need the gh6 to have solid autofocus and 4k 120 fps.
Speaking of, you think we'll get the gh6 soon?
@@wcsdiaries i hope so, m4/3 tho seem to be put on the side.
@@FrankValchiria yes i think the trend is headed towards full frame
@@wcsdiaries I think the S1H is pretty much the new GH6
Nicely done Kai! Good comprehensive review!
Love your reviews always!
All I have to say is THANK GOODNESS for a Full Size HDMI port!
It also looks to be easily replaceable if you look at the close-up of it and the two small phillips-head screws holding it in place. 👍
But when you will use any ports on the left side, so " amazing" new display is gone, in machine for this money:-(... Sony, sony...
I *REALLY* hope that sony will update the menu systems for the rest their existing line up.
SONY: If you realy need it, get a new one😂😂😂
They should be able to do this with a firmware update I hope. Still doesn't look great but a huge improvement. Hoping with Sony opening up their software that someone will make a better interface for it.
I use primarily Canon and Sony, but also Nikon and Fuji. Can't say I see a menu system as something to get my knickers in a twist about, you just have to adapt. I think Sony are unfairly targeted in this regard, like people are just trying so hard to find something to hate on them about. I get it, the menus aren't intuitive, but neither was my Canon when I first picked it up etc etc. Sorry, Cody, not having a go at you personally.
@@ireallyamamazing Pretty much only Black Magic don't have pretty silly UI (well, apart from the new Sony one).
I hope when they get it right, they update the rest of their lineup. This seems more like step one of a multi-step evolution.
Awesome! Great Review! Kai Is Back :p
Cheers Kai.
Congrats on being the first Jessie James impersonator to review the A7SIII.
2hrs+ recording is literally the headline people need to push. that beats 8k anyday imo.
Depends on user
How many people actually shoot 2 hours straight? The battery certainly would die out well before the 120 minutes. And most final version videos are composed of multiple edited short clips. So the notion of being able to shoot 120 minutes is a moot point.
@@msbrownbeast umm us wedding photographers/videographers? You as the photographer/videographer have very little control when it comes time when doing a wedding, you can voice your opinion but ultimately it nice to be able to record for quite a while, especially when It comes to capturing spontaneous, candid moments
@@Faded.Visuals But even in a wedding scenario, there is no part of a typical wedding where there might be a need to shoot for 2 hours straight.
A camera that just works. Yessssss please! Thank you Sony....
Those frisbee shots at 12:00 looked pretty stabilised in comparision to the ones in the street! Best practical review, BTW. Thanks!!
Love how this guy shoots in spots in greater London I know and recognise well
Really helps me judge the camera better as I can compare his stuff to what I've got in the past from my cameras
In 4-5 years I might be able to afford one! 🤣
Daniel Heinley by than there will be better completion haha
same, will still be a beast after 4 years.
GWM-BTD Battles, Agar.Io and more! So true
I'm on a GH4r, I'm getting envious of him mentioning a GH5
Loadatat you got 10 bit on that thing?
*Good for airport filming at night*
Great review! appreciate the side by side on the a7sii and a7iii
Great to see you making videos again. How have you been?
6:55 did you accidentally delete your VO clips talking bout the audio ports?
No, I think just accidentally pasted two clips in there!
Hey for us who started with sony cameras the menu was great! Now it seems that the menu of the 7sIII is for some kind of a toy!!!😆😆😆
What an amazing review!
One of my daily gripes with otherwise lush a7sii was not being able to adjust monitor levels. So mid shoot I'm stuck with whatever volume I have. I hate that. Any update on a7sii?
or do we still have to stop recording, switch to playback mode, play a video, open playback settings, click volume, lower it, switch back to camera mode, and start recording again?
Man you were walking around like 2 mins from where I live, HOW DO I NEVER RUN INTO YOU XD
Ru-oh, sensor dust at 1:13
If they made the shutter curtain lower when you take the lens of, ala Canon mirrorless this would be the perfect package.
Ru-oh... dust on a sensor is easily removed by a rocket blower. Debris or heaven forbid, a finger on the shutter can pretty much render the whole camera useless until repaired. The sensor (which is protected by a filter anyway) is far less sensitive than the shutter.
@@ashic I've been told that you shouldn't use a rocket blower on the sensor, because of the delicate parts in there like the shutter. Just what I have been told.
@@Reddepex this is wrong. There are filters in front of the sensor, it's not directly exposed. Rocket blowers are pretty much the standard way of cleaning the sensor. Only if that doesn't work, you should use a sensor swab. That means actually touching the surface. The rocket blower should be of good quality so that a) it doesn't draw in dust and spray it on the sensor, and b) when squeezed the nozzle doesn't flap about, as you might end up having the nozzle poke the sensor.
@@ashic They mean the shutter blades to the side, they are said to be very fragile. Just saying.
@@Reddepex yes, the shutter blades are fragile. But if they're open (like on the Sonys), then you don't blow on them with a rocket blower. On the Canons, if you intend to clean the sensor, you need to make sure the shutter is open before using the blower.
All the reviewers get the a7S III at the same time (for free), meanwhile everyone else still rocks a Lumix G7 or GH5 😂
makes you think...
Hi Kai! I have the A7riii and I hate the fact that every time I connect an external monitor for shoots, it turns the AF Face detection off. Not talking about atmos external recorder. Just a regular external monitor. Do you know if they fixed this issue on the A7siii ?
Great video Kai, and always nice to see our renowned dry British humour on full display! Have you been using the camera much since this initial first reaction?
They perfected the 4K game! Nice one Sony!
18:33 In Australia here, there's still only 60 minutes in an hour. It sucks!
Yea i was wondering xD 1:49:18 on the timer and he says 109 minutes but corrected it to 149 minutes? xD
Nice review! Love you you talked about 109 minutes correctly, and then mis-corrected 1:49 into 149 minutes. :D
great video Kai , i think this will be the best all around workflow camera and the most reliable and a big is the hotshoe mic mounting with no cables and ability to run 2 different mics to separate audio in post
No hymn of praise for the EVF? I'm really interested in how the specs turn out in reality
I think everyone is praising it, but it's... well.... sort of pointless on a video camera. Now when it migrates over to the next A7R, it'll make a bigger splash.
Manny Ortiz gives very high praise on the superb new EVF
I can’t wait til the Sony A7X comes out, then I’ll be able to get the A7III
lucky, I'll have to wait for A7XIV to afford A7II at best
P Ruder haha it’s ridiculous, I’m still rocking a Canon 500D, I can dream though.
I am still rocking with a GameBoy Camera .
Great review and great reviewer.Thank you for sharing.
As a Sony user, I don't understand why people complaining about the menu system. If you are in the field going through the menu to changed your settings, you already lost the moment. There's c1, c2, c3, c4, 1, 2, m1, m2, m3, m4. You can set each of this to your liking. C1 can be program 4k pp1, c2 can 4k pp10, c3 1080 pp1, c4 stills, m1, m2, 1, 2 etc... You don't have to go through the menu in the field, just pushed or turned the knob to your preprogrammed settings, it's fast, easier then standing there going through the menu.
I'm sorry the Sony logo is upside down when using the tilty flippy screen. Unusable.
Finally, the a7sIII is here! Which means that the a7II will drop in price, so finally I may be able to afford a plain a7 camera.
a7iii its been here for years.
@@ronaldvelasco85 *a7sIII.
Awesome review! Thanks!
Do you think the a6300 will be updated with the new menus and menu touch ability? Thanks for the great videos :)
Dpreview showed that you can control which settings are held when switching between photos and video, did you look into that? I'm not sure if your complaint about it is already resolved but hidden in the settings
Curtis Watson the custom modes are also very underrated for video shooters
I'm here for the underheating..
Well well well, see who is still alive but didn't upload anything since ages. :)
i'm here for the weird skin tones
Peter Kapunkt - I may have died and uploaded videos into the cloud
Amazing camera for sure! Well done, Sony! I will be sticking with my A7iii / GH5 combo for now though and I'll wait and see what the A7IV has to offer! I think like the A7III Sony will hit the sweet spot with the A7IV with it's photo and video capabilities vs. price point.
Kai's Stone Island pieces are always going to make me jealous.
I see you, Kai.
I see you.
I’m a Blackmagic and Canon shooter but genuinely impressed by this new cam.
Its funny how most people commenting about the whole "it doesn't have 8k" will watch it 4k cropped.
People who think they need 8k don't even need 720p. If you need 8k why are you buying a mirrorless/dslr style camera lol
Im excited to give this a try!
Please share one RAW photo file from A7S III. Just one to see the intra quality, please!
One thing I realized tonight is that with 12MP the A7Siii can’t shoot photos big enough to use as a wallpaper on my 5K Retina iMac at 100% 🥺🥺🥺
I mean... It's a video focused camera anyway . I guess the Canon R6 wud be better for your purposes?
@@emptyskullify or R5 for the same price
"Just works"? I suppose that's fine if you're a pro with money on the line. But what about the enthusiast market that just want to drone on about specs? 😅
right!! like in a car, you can scream all you want about superior "specs" as a competitor goes flying by you.
I’ve already seen a review on the a7s III, but I really want to hear Kai’s review 🙂
When I record in 1080p on my a7siii, the resolution comes out as 1920 x 1072. Do you know how to fix this?
To the 1% of you who will probably see this
You are awesome ❤
I took a gamble cancelling my R5 preorder when I saw specs for this, really happy with my decision
Good review!
Thinking of buying, could you please suggest the best cinema lens for this camera. But I need a bit with a range ... not much but still... as I'm filming sport not every time could come close to the scene.
Now I am using sony rx10 iv
I was sheet rocking my attic today and it was the first time ever my a7sii over heated on me recording 4k @ 30fps after about a hour and 15 minutes. I couldnt even record on 1080p for about 20 minutes. It was 86F outside I'd imagine it was a little hotter inside my attic. Made want to upgrade to the mark 3
Image stabilization is not impressive
Im so glad That they didnt include 8k it would have been so bad
yeah with a 12MP sensor 8K would have been awful...
@Gap I was being facetious
@Gap 8K is 36mp, 24mp is 6K.
I'm dreaming about this cam for my travel vlogs 😍
omg!! #32 on trending! when was the last time you did that kai! a big fan of you and lok!
Now bring that menu to the A73
Hopefully and a firmware update to remove the recording limit too
and maby A7R2
@Daniel.Henz
Canon rep Micheal B said it's not on the current roadmap...implied not to expect it soon or ever in today's 2nd B&H Sony A7R3 Q&A video.
Who's just waiting for Sony A7IV patiently with 2000$ in their wallet ? 🙇🏻♂️🤞🏼
I know right!?
I have been waiting since ages! 🤣🔥
Sony A7Siii looks like a beast. Also loving your channel! Stay safe!
Hey, while video shooting, do we need an external monitor on a7siii or its articulating screen itself can fulfill the purpose? Thanks
Sony waited for canon to show their best just to s*it on them with this... ruff
please, hold your breath.
one trick pony.
The way the economy is going (looking at central London), it might be better to save the £3,500 and you might buy a few loaves of bread in 2021..
What was that wireless hot shoe microphone mentioned? I couldn’t find it on a google search?
Thanks friend. Good content as always
Love your reviews Kai! I have to say the image off the Sony looks a bit plasticky (if that's a word) or at least more digital than the Canon cameras. Is that your experience with it?
I currently have a Sony a6300 and I’m looking for the best Sony camera with a nice combo of quality photo/video. Would you recommend this camera? I’m more on the photography side... Thanks
Fantastic review 👍🏻
A camera that just works.
Well there’s nothing to add now.
(Great great video and colors by the way).
Any chance you’re able to try a Sony crop lens and see if it’s usable in 4k with 1.5x clear image zoom?
Hey @Kai W great video as always...but at 6:54 you lost the audio ..or was it purposely done 😁
Hello Kai - wondering which camera, lens and mic you used for your 'studio' section of this video, basically your head and should shot? Thanks!
I was thinking this might be a good camera for taking panoramic landscapes. The limitation of only 12 megapixels could be overcome by stitching more images together. But the dynamic range - that would be great. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
is there a timelapse feature in the camera. How would you shoot timelapse with the a7siii?
I have had to google the settings on my Sony camera during a shoot too. Lol
Dear sir kai w, are you using the 16-35 f4 for the vlog style test video ?
Does it crop down on the sensor with an APSC mode, same as the a7iii, when you put an E mount lens on? And if it's only 12 megapixels, is that enough for 4k when you crop down the sensor to APSC?
“You might... I don’t know... I don’t have PHAT fingers” I’m dead😂😂😂
Kai, great review as usual! Thanks! Messy apartment! Needs a little cleaning! LOL!
best review so far
The growing side thumb rest design starting to look very Canon like.
I've got a a7sii and I really like it. Should I switch to this? Is the difference in quality just huge?
hey, nice video. i have a question. You wear glasses for myopia? How much of a minus? Do you have troubles by taking pictures? Can myopia be a problem for a photographer? Thanks
well said, great review..
Good thing they did not include the 8k feature and focused on what people really wanted from this camera, after all it has been a long wait. It is nice to see that Sony is still going strong.