Tractor PTO - Electronic vs Clutch Engaged - Advantages/Disadvantages - Which is Better.
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- čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
- Both methods have their advantages and disadvantages. Let's compare and see which one we like better. E89
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Tough call! I have only had electronic, but I can see the advantages of the manual. Wondering about the longevity on the electronic. Good job on the video.👍🇺🇸🚜
Hey Mike, same thoughts here. I grew up with only having the manual and I know the longevity of it is well proven. Just worry about the cost if the electronic should have a problem. Hopefully it will last as well, since that's pretty much what most tractors have now days. Thanks for checking it out and have a good one.
Just ordered my CK3520SE HST from my local dealer and hoping to take delivery in a week or so. Have been really enjoying and learning from your videos. Fantastic job explaining things in all of your videos, specifically the maintenance related videos. One thing that would be super helpful would be proving links to the oils and accessories that you use/recommend. A lot of CZcamsrs put up affiliation links (I have no idea how that works to make you $$$$) but regardless just a bit more description of the product name in the 'comments' section of the video would be very helpful. Many thanks to the wealth of information you provide on the Kioti tractors.
Hi Paul, great feedback. I can definitely provide more information in future videos. I'm sure you are going to love your new CK3510se. It's a real workhorse and has more power than you might think for a smaller tractor. I really appreciate you watching the videos and taking time to comment. Good luck and thanks again.
I've got a CK3510 and I start my PTO at idle, if I remember. My Ford 850 works like your Massey. Nice compare video / Thank you
Yes, same with me, idle is best case. Thank you for watching and commenting.
I prefer the manual by a long shot. The electronic engagement on my KIOTI CK3510se is anything but smooth. Plus aligning the pto shaft with the tractor is sooo much easier with the manual clutch engagement. As for which one will last longer? My first 2 tractors lasted 30 years and 20 years without any repairs. Time will tell with the electronic PTO. Personally I don't trust the longevity of the electric. Stop reading here to avoid my KIOTI rant: As an example- my KIOTI did a regen every 25-30 hours without a problem. At 250 hours it tried to regen but the computer shut it down and limited me to the "LIMP" mode. Had 4 different error codes run across the hour meter, but the dealer said they MUST put it on the computer in their shop to find out the problem....that means I have to take the tractor to the dealer or have them transport it. They picked it up and said it would be 7-10 days. Well, it's been over a month because "we can't get the parts from KIOTI" They need to replace a wiring harness. and a solenoid and a switch and the parts have been on order for 3 weeks and still not available to ship out. So if I have a choice between anything mechanical/manual and electronic-I'm going manual on these tractors. I get the feeling KIOTI is a little like JD not wanting the owners to do any repairs on their equipment . No owners manuals,, parts hard to get, no explanation of the error codes generated by the computer etc.
Totally agree about the manual engagement. That system has been around for many years and has always been very reliable. Sorry to hear about your troubles with the regens. I think it’s like a lot of others things in todays world. Too many electronic gadgets, sensors, emissions, safeties, etc. Just more stuff to break and cause headaches. I hope you are able to gets things squared away and get it back soon. Thanks for checking out the video and commenting. Good luck.
Sorry to rant...liked your video and good comparison of the two systems. I wish I had seen your video before I bought my CK3510. Might not have bought it. Most of my tractor work is with PTO driven equipment-tiller, mowers, post hole. I don't think the KIOTI is available with the clutch engagement and the HST. My NH TC33D had HST and clutch engagement. So I know they are available (or were 20 years ago) Thanks again for the good clear interesting video.
While I appreciate the convenience of electronic clutch, manual clutch and gears like in the MF has a charm to it. There is a little bit more of craft and attention to the work while being done.
Totally agree. It's hard to beat the reliability of the MF manual clutch. It's been around for ages and is well proven. Thanks for checking it out and the great feedback.
Hi Jeff, I’ve had tractors with both manual and auto/electronic PTOs (Kioti LB1914 and CK2620/3510 respectively). I agree that the manual (clutch type) is much smoother starting out. With the auto/electronic one, I always reduce engine speed to idle before engaging. The electronic one with the auto on/off feature is too abrupt for my 60” flail mower at 540 speed. It’s been a while since I’ve used my post hole auger attachment to see how well the auto on/off feature works with that as you raise it up and down. If the auto electronic one ever fails, I have no idea how you fix that?
Hi Will, totally agree with you. The features of the electronic are nice, but as I said in the video, a lot more pieces to fail. Seems like having a slip clutch on the implement may help, at least keeps from breaking shear pins on the abrupt starts. Like you said, if the electronic ever fails I would hate to see what the repair would cost. Thanks for checking it out and commenting.
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