The Turbo Teen similarity is interesting when you consider that there was a licensed Turbo Teen transforming model kit, but the model kit was connected to Go-Bots rather than Transformers.
@@tomwhiting6900 For the scale (it would be small to fit inside the larger jet) and the era, there isn't much you can reasonably do for a car-to-humanoid transformation.
@@BainesMkII You know? Reminds me way more of what Super Fire Dagwon I think it was from the Brave franchise. I mean, has the giant robot turn to a plane with huge undercarriage, mini car robot that fits into the chest. Just a coincidence I guess.
With some creativity it could turn into any altmode, although I think the easiest alt mode you could give it is some sort of construction vehicle or a military vehicle
the Symmetrical Docking gimmick that predates GaoGaiGar that you tried to mention is Blue Raker and Green Raker who combines into Ultra Raker from the 1st Brave series Exkaiser.
Er, it wasn't only the Japanese that postured a gun-headed transformer. In the US, for the ROTF film, Lockdown had a head that transformed into a giant gun. The "Battlebeast" figure was either similar to Daniel's exo-suit (just with legs instead of wheels) or it was a Pretender shell itself that fitted inside another Pretender shell. Also, why are these designs such a surprise? They're inside the Takara TF books that were widely available in Japan (and could be ordered via Amazon Japan, I think).
5:37 Wow..... I've actually been working on a transformable VHS-Ravage concept for about a year now and I can tell you, it's a nightmare to try to pull-off. I also finished a VHS-Laserbeak about 2-years ago & eventually plan to do a VCR-Soundwave. Never knew this concept-art existed. Would love to know the source for this, and was this done on the Japanese Microchange-end or the U.S. Hasbro-Transformers end?
Takara actually did for something like this, back in the mid-2000's. They made a separate range of transforming toys, with the main character being a train that transformed into a robot. There were others, including a pirate ship that turned into a dragon, etc. The main robot could interact with a cartoon via the same "light gun" technology and you could score points.
A human wearing that car who goes into the larger robot form... That kind of reminds me of Brave Command Dagwon. This could have been an inspiration for that toyline and series.
I totally agree that the statue pretender with a centaur mode would have been awesome. I think the Pretender line had real potential that never got explored or developed properly
The videocassette idea goes back to Microchange, there was an unproduced prototype shown off a few years back, via the toys that made us. 10:51 eventually happened (in a way) the year later with Takara's VIDEO CHALLANGER gun, during airings of headmasters, you where encouraged to fire at the decepticons during the opening (who would flash white) and you could score points, they also released "adaptations" of various arcade games, ROAD AVENGER, Sega's AFTER BURNER that could all be "played" with that system (i.e, video footage of the arcade game with overlaid graphics). 20:02 Takara predicted Kamen Rider W
That tanker ship is so cool, I'd love to see one that turns into a Lake Freighter, their gimmick could be that they're constantly singing mournful songs about various Great Lakes shipping disasters.
Although these concepts are really weird and probably would've sold poorly, their super creative and fun. I just love the weird side of g1 and to have more ideas for those odd sides is super interesting, especially the split robot mode which is so ridiculous it's awesome.
My first thought on seeing the tank-gun-thing is the Magnum figure from Micro Change, like maybe they were planning on porting that figure over and adding a gimmick in the form of combination with another, new figure?
Maybe those boats would be some kind of combiner, also I like that centaur and the VHS ravage, they would be very interising like having Transformers living inside of old statues (kinda similar like The Monument Mythos) or Soundwave becoming a VCR that for me would be like a halloween thing where Soundwave would be left behind and start hiding in a house with his cassettes disturbing the people
Just realized the Battle Beast one could've worked if they changed the lion-man into a crab. Not a crab-man, just a robotic crab - that can also transform into a humanoid like the usual ones. My idea for the reasoning behind this would be that he/she turns into a crab for defense, but when that fails, they call the drone 'shell' over and hop inside it to go into attack mode
The Transformer with the gun for a head reminds me of Lockdown from Age of Extinction. Remember, Lockdown had a gun that would cover his face in that Bayverse movie.
A revolver tank could be a cool design for another franchise, where a variety of crazy tanks was the central idea. Also maybe that turbo teen concept was just the artist making a joke because they knew their head design wouldn't be final yet?
What if Soundwave instead was turned into a Camcorder? Moving from audio to visual and perhaps even getting a new name in the process. Also that first art of Prime reminds me of Ga-Orn from The Brave of Legend Da-Garn.
The torsos of the first and third shipformer look just like Tidal Wave's. Soundwave with a VCR alt mode could be part of a video surveillance system. And for the tankformer that combines with a revolver: might have been aimed at gun enthusiasts to combine with their real guns...
I have the Optimus and Bumblebee transforming DVD cases for the first 2 Michael Bay movies. Really upset they didn't continue the trend, it was the only reason I bought either of those movies.
The aircraft carrier bot is based on a class of Soviet aircraft carriers/battlecruisers. Specifically, the Kiev-class. Honestly, it's an awesome design. I wish we could gotten more warship Transformers
There *was* a series of Duocons that worked. They were called the Dread Launchers. Of course, they weren't Transformers, but most of the best transforming toys of the '80s weren't.
I really want more Boatformers generally so I want toys of all of them Also prototype Flywheels and Gundam looking guy looks cool. The Gundam looking one looks too been a space ship plus maybe a boat or a landing pad. Also Helicopter-van looks like a white hoist ngl, also the legs are helicopter, given the feet. I would be happy with toys of the Gundam looking one and White Hoist, white hoist being an autobot would be cool VHS Ravage would be cool, there was a guy on TFW making VHS transformers so I would happily taking to VHS Ravage, And as its small, Credit Card Rodimus is meh Takara Rock Lord... huh. Weird Honestly the humanoid Brainmaster, looks like Aumuro from Gundam with the figure looking like a Guncanon, likely this was very late with victory-brave bending stuff where it could work on both ends, like the car being a docking vehicle into an Airplane to which would make it transform, Given this I assume it would have been Zone or late Victory, like possibly Star Saber's kid grown up in the Zone era and if the Zone Anime happened would have featured this design. Honestly I can dig it, I'd buy it. VHS Light Transformer, is pretty cool, a gimmick Transformer that would likely have been forgotten similar to the Kronoformers, Deluxe insecticons, the Tyco characters, and a lot of late G1 stuff that would be pretty cool Action Master Revolver guy... G1 Wildwheel, I like it. Also its Core Megatron lol Centuar Pretender would also be amazingly cool, I love that design and want it. It could be very posable with an update Battlebeast Beast Pretender, very weird but cool to see That Skin Pretender is also extremely weird wtf, imagine the damage after years of play though, you would see the soft plastic begin to crack and deteriorate, and it would just look like a knockoff Terminator toy, like what was mentioned. Sidways Duocon Beast-Vehicles were weird to see too *ALSO RAILS I WANT MY SNAKE OIL TRAIN! Hasbro please revive them*
THAT'S the one I was on about in a reply to a post above! It featured a robot/train and other weird transforming toys, which could combine with the main robot. The show would give points if you could transform, shoot or combine at the right time and it came out around 2003?
So, the humanoid figure in the Brainmaster concept didn't just give anyone Vietnam war flashbacks of the Transformers: Victory manga (where Solon Kitakaze and later Jan Minakaze gain helmets and exosuits that basically FIT their body)?
That first image is the secret inspiration for Lioconvoy. VCR cassettes could of been the Junkion version of Soundwave and Blaster, would of been in theme for them at the time.
The concept transformer with a gun for a head actually made it into the live-action film "AGE OF EXTICTION"
With LOCKDOWN's "GUN-FACE" scene...
The best first concept art is ultra magnus with a lot of guns/weapons like the bayverse brawl tbh
Making a rocklord that's a geode gemstone headmaster is kinda cool
That sideways combo got me thinking of a Megatron and Ratchet fusion from a comic
The Turbo Teen similarity is interesting when you consider that there was a licensed Turbo Teen transforming model kit, but the model kit was connected to Go-Bots rather than Transformers.
I had the Turbo Teen model as a kid and that's exactly what it looked like. Hasbro ripped off the design 100%.
@@tomwhiting6900 For the scale (it would be small to fit inside the larger jet) and the era, there isn't much you can reasonably do for a car-to-humanoid transformation.
@@BainesMkII You know? Reminds me way more of what Super Fire Dagwon I think it was from the Brave franchise. I mean, has the giant robot turn to a plane with huge undercarriage, mini car robot that fits into the chest. Just a coincidence I guess.
A Centurion Transformer is a neat idea. I'd love to see a four-armed Transformer, I just have no idea what it's alt. mode would be.
With some creativity it could turn into any altmode, although I think the easiest alt mode you could give it is some sort of construction vehicle or a military vehicle
@@nucleonegro9762 Cough Seige Shockwave Cough
@@ZackarySchejbalCODBO2RGM2 yeah, although that figure is a partsformer
@@nucleonegro9762 Still 4 arms lol. Though I'd love to see how Transformers today would tackle something like Pegasus Saber.
Technically ROTF Ejector had four arms, or rather four lower arms.
the Symmetrical Docking gimmick that predates GaoGaiGar that you tried to mention is Blue Raker and Green Raker who combines into Ultra Raker from the 1st Brave series Exkaiser.
2:35 why do I feel like this became the inspiration for tidal wave
Love you're unique content. Everyone is doing reviews and news, but your stuff is on its own. Thanks man.
Rodimus Prime as credit card is just hilarious.
the battle ship could have been a g1 tidal wave and could have been an awesome toy :3
my idea too!
5:57 That Ravage looks amazing. Also 13:10 I love that vehicle mode and the gun/robot modes are neat
Er, it wasn't only the Japanese that postured a gun-headed transformer. In the US, for the ROTF film, Lockdown had a head that transformed into a giant gun.
The "Battlebeast" figure was either similar to Daniel's exo-suit (just with legs instead of wheels) or it was a Pretender shell itself that fitted inside another Pretender shell.
Also, why are these designs such a surprise? They're inside the Takara TF books that were widely available in Japan (and could be ordered via Amazon Japan, I think).
5:37 Wow..... I've actually been working on a transformable VHS-Ravage concept for about a year now and I can tell you, it's a nightmare to try to pull-off. I also finished a VHS-Laserbeak about 2-years ago & eventually plan to do a VCR-Soundwave. Never knew this concept-art existed. Would love to know the source for this, and was this done on the Japanese Microchange-end or the U.S. Hasbro-Transformers end?
Oooooooooooh so you made that cassette Laserbeak! I love seeing it!
I've seen that. Nicely done.
That video game Transformer would work really well into today’s market, I think. They were making AR compatible figures in the 80’s, man.
Takara actually did for something like this, back in the mid-2000's. They made a separate range of transforming toys, with the main character being a train that transformed into a robot. There were others, including a pirate ship that turned into a dragon, etc. The main robot could interact with a cartoon via the same "light gun" technology and you could score points.
That gun headed Decepticon would fit right in with the DJD.
A human wearing that car who goes into the larger robot form... That kind of reminds me of Brave Command Dagwon. This could have been an inspiration for that toyline and series.
Same said
@@ZackarySchejbalCODBO2RGM2 I was going to say it looks very much like the Trans Am from Knight Rider. Even looks a bit like The Hoff's hair style.
I totally agree that the statue pretender with a centaur mode would have been awesome. I think the Pretender line had real potential that never got explored or developed properly
Yeah, like having Transformers living inside of monuments
The toy with the gun head thing is basically Cannon Soldier from yu-gi-oh.
The videocassette idea goes back to Microchange, there was an unproduced prototype shown off a few years back, via the toys that made us.
10:51 eventually happened (in a way) the year later with Takara's VIDEO CHALLANGER gun, during airings of headmasters, you where encouraged to fire at the decepticons during the opening (who would flash white) and you could score points, they also released "adaptations" of various arcade games, ROAD AVENGER, Sega's AFTER BURNER that could all be "played" with that system (i.e, video footage of the arcade game with overlaid graphics).
20:02 Takara predicted Kamen Rider W
That tanker ship is so cool, I'd love to see one that turns into a Lake Freighter, their gimmick could be that they're constantly singing mournful songs about various Great Lakes shipping disasters.
I would love to see that alligator carbot get a figure because he looks like a in between of a Autobot and maximal like he's a Fusion of both
20:00 Look, It's a Gator, It's a Drunk, No It's Florida-Man!
Although these concepts are really weird and probably would've sold poorly, their super creative and fun. I just love the weird side of g1 and to have more ideas for those odd sides is super interesting, especially the split robot mode which is so ridiculous it's awesome.
My first thought on seeing the tank-gun-thing is the Magnum figure from Micro Change, like maybe they were planning on porting that figure over and adding a gimmick in the form of combination with another, new figure?
My thoughts exactly
I feel like the centaur Pretender guy could make for some interesting fiction... weird fiction, but interesting.
If that croc and car combiner existed when I was a kid I would have thought that was the coolest thing ever, still do
"remove THE SKIN" love the horror in your delivery there.
The green toy that had interactivity with a gun looks as if it came straight out of the Bay movies. It even predicted Lockdown's "headgun".
Maybe those boats would be some kind of combiner, also I like that centaur and the VHS ravage, they would be very interising like having Transformers living inside of old statues (kinda similar like The Monument Mythos) or Soundwave becoming a VCR that for me would be like a halloween thing where Soundwave would be left behind and start hiding in a house with his cassettes disturbing the people
Even Masters of the Universe had transforming rock characters. I don't know what was going on in the 80's but we ate them up!
I love the revolver and the half beast wars/G1 robots. Totally ridiculous but way out there!!!
Just realized the Battle Beast one could've worked if they changed the lion-man into a crab. Not a crab-man, just a robotic crab - that can also transform into a humanoid like the usual ones.
My idea for the reasoning behind this would be that he/she turns into a crab for defense, but when that fails, they call the drone 'shell' over and hop inside it to go into attack mode
I love these concept art videos
Some really interesting stuff, here!
The Transformer with the gun for a head reminds me of Lockdown from Age of Extinction. Remember, Lockdown had a gun that would cover his face in that Bayverse movie.
Shame they didn’t create that centaur one that one was cool
Technically, they did with the red alien "centaur" in the Aninimorph line.
Now we know where the idea for Lockdown’s Gun Face came from.
15:01 That looks like it inspired Tarn.
Good on the guy
20:30 Pure vehicle versions would be cool. TFA Jetfire, but more asymmetrical.
That revolver-headed one is the most violently American Transformer I've ever seen.
The first of the ships kinda looks like it has combiner ports where the knee is
imagine if we actually got a combiner based on Battleship? Not just the namesake ship, but hasbro's Board game.
Precursor of Tidalwave?
18:11
>Ah yes, I've at last escaped my flesh prison
How about... Shipmasters for the ship transformers.
15:27 looks like a nice pretender concept.
16:48 I had to agree with this one being wierd.
The one with the revolver looks more like a Brave mech where they attach a gun/cannon onto the shoulder.
Captain Power!!!
19:51 It's the real Wheel Gator!!
"I Don't need to explain shit! I have a gun for a head!"
Those unused duocons look like those boys from animated.
A revolver tank could be a cool design for another franchise, where a variety of crazy tanks was the central idea. Also maybe that turbo teen concept was just the artist making a joke because they knew their head design wouldn't be final yet?
Interesting video. Quite a few of these I had never seen before.
Happy new year !!
17:00 A clear plastic body shell with clips. Hello, instant stress marks and broken tabs 3 months down the line.
the "turbo teen" guy to me looks a lot like KITT and Michael from Knight Rider
What if Soundwave instead was turned into a Camcorder? Moving from audio to visual and perhaps even getting a new name in the process. Also that first art of Prime reminds me of Ga-Orn from The Brave of Legend Da-Garn.
Maybe reflector could have merged with sound wave as a combiner to be the camcorder.
First ship looks a lot like Armada Tidlewave
6:26 cardimus prime
The not-Rocklord headsculpt looks like bayverse Lockdown
The Animal x Vehicle concepts at the end reminded me of the Kamen Rider Build gimmick with the organic and inorganic halves.
TFP (Deluxe) Beast Hunters Knockout ~ lost Gator-mobile realized! (A former red car turned red-green, gator 'trappings' included!)
Great reveals, man!
15:07 early lockdown concept art lol
The torsos of the first and third shipformer look just like Tidal Wave's.
Soundwave with a VCR alt mode could be part of a video surveillance system.
And for the tankformer that combines with a revolver: might have been aimed at gun enthusiasts to combine with their real guns...
You don't really have gun enthusiasts in Japan, plus there were no adult collectors in the 80s to market that toward. More likely it was a cap gun.
@@TJOmega Yea, it was more of a funny idea. "cap gun" =P Never heard of that before.
Have you seen the custom VHS Ravage on Radicons?
1st battleship, especially with that face. Makes me think G1 version of Tidal Wave (Unicron trilogy) anyone else??
I have the Optimus and Bumblebee transforming DVD cases for the first 2 Michael Bay movies. Really upset they didn't continue the trend, it was the only reason I bought either of those movies.
15:07 that reminds of lockdown from tf4
5:49 I could see a timeline where Ravage was given a G2 toy that turned into a VHS tape.
The aircraft carrier bot is based on a class of Soviet aircraft carriers/battlecruisers.
Specifically, the Kiev-class.
Honestly, it's an awesome design. I wish we could gotten more warship Transformers
Some of the designs at the beginning look cooler than all of G1 IMO. It's hard to believe these are 80s designs.
Very enjoyable video. I can't wait for more!!!!
Didn't the headmasters anime have a light shooting thing in the second opening?
There *was* a series of Duocons that worked. They were called the Dread Launchers.
Of course, they weren't Transformers, but most of the best transforming toys of the '80s weren't.
I really want more Boatformers generally so I want toys of all of them
Also prototype Flywheels and Gundam looking guy looks cool. The Gundam looking one looks too been a space ship plus maybe a boat or a landing pad. Also Helicopter-van looks like a white hoist ngl, also the legs are helicopter, given the feet. I would be happy with toys of the Gundam looking one and White Hoist, white hoist being an autobot would be cool
VHS Ravage would be cool, there was a guy on TFW making VHS transformers so I would happily taking to VHS Ravage, And as its small, Credit Card Rodimus is meh
Takara Rock Lord... huh. Weird
Honestly the humanoid Brainmaster, looks like Aumuro from Gundam with the figure looking like a Guncanon, likely this was very late with victory-brave bending stuff where it could work on both ends, like the car being a docking vehicle into an Airplane to which would make it transform, Given this I assume it would have been Zone or late Victory, like possibly Star Saber's kid grown up in the Zone era and if the Zone Anime happened would have featured this design. Honestly I can dig it, I'd buy it.
VHS Light Transformer, is pretty cool, a gimmick Transformer that would likely have been forgotten similar to the Kronoformers, Deluxe insecticons, the Tyco characters, and a lot of late G1 stuff that would be pretty cool
Action Master Revolver guy... G1 Wildwheel, I like it. Also its Core Megatron lol
Centuar Pretender would also be amazingly cool, I love that design and want it. It could be very posable with an update
Battlebeast Beast Pretender, very weird but cool to see
That Skin Pretender is also extremely weird wtf, imagine the damage after years of play though, you would see the soft plastic begin to crack and deteriorate, and it would just look like a knockoff Terminator toy, like what was mentioned.
Sidways Duocon Beast-Vehicles were weird to see too
*ALSO RAILS I WANT MY SNAKE OIL TRAIN! Hasbro please revive them*
Turbo Teen should be the next crossover figure. Or Inspector Gadget's car. I agree,a Takara version of Rock Lords would have been cool.
l love VHS ravage as a Brick. i also love the ship formers.
I want that centaur.
19:54 it's like the combination system in zenkaiger
20:00 The original Beast Machines? Lol
I like all the military grade ship transformers they're dope
Great topic. Wackg designs.
14:14 They predicted lockdown
That lion gun helmet remain me to Lovkdown frkm bsyverse and mamoth convoy
The game integrated one reminds me of WebDiver
THAT'S the one I was on about in a reply to a post above! It featured a robot/train and other weird transforming toys, which could combine with the main robot. The show would give points if you could transform, shoot or combine at the right time and it came out around 2003?
Does daigunder did the same thing?
That Bison foot just makes me feel grim.
Some of those designs look like they were reused for Armada.
Those last two images are the absolute worst ideas I've ever seen. I'm so glad that concept never happened.
You should do some more concept art from g2 and some of the other toy lines and cartoons and the movies
The duocon jet tank combo with the canon between the legs 🤣😁🤣 great way to start 2022
That centaur Pretender could've been Onyx Prime.
20:00 Zenkaiger called!
8:16 JAJAJAJAJA break legs outch
with that first battleship design, i can see hasbro doing a crossover toy based on Space Battleship Yamato
So, the humanoid figure in the Brainmaster concept didn't just give anyone Vietnam war flashbacks of the Transformers: Victory manga (where Solon Kitakaze and later Jan Minakaze gain helmets and exosuits that basically FIT their body)?
The gun head has. Transformers AOE Lockdown.
20.01 is basically kamen rider build concept, animal + machinery
The rear half of the Bison with the right leg.
13:49 Lockdown? Is that you?
Those side-by-side Duocons look like Power Ranger/Kamen Rider bad guys 😅
Heh ,halve Ferrari, halve alligator, all Fever Dream.
That first image is the secret inspiration for Lioconvoy. VCR cassettes could of been the Junkion version of Soundwave and Blaster, would of been in theme for them at the time.
I hope you're joking, because I don't think that was actually the "secret" inspiration for Lio Convoy.
those last 2 are how they made zenkaiger, i think