How to plot a route on Google Maps and Navigate it on a Garmin Device
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- This video describes step by step how to plot a route in Google maps, transfer it to your Garmin device and then navigate it.
Correction. At 6:55 this is not a glitch, the two points are the start point and the end point of the route. Because the titles are so long they look the same so I thought this was a glitch.
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Note: Google seem to change the route to "My Maps" on a regular basis. If you don't see it in the search bar navigate to this URL: www.google.com...
If your route is just showing a straight line from A to B make sure your GPS is plugged in to the computer. One the GPS is plugged in Basecamp will load the detailed map from the device. To check that you are using the detailed map click *View **---**> Tool Bars --> Map Products.* This will show a menu showing the map that you are currently using. If it says *Global Map* then that is the wrong map and you need to plug the GPS in. The detailed map name usually starts with *City Navigator...*. For reference the *Global Map* that comes with Basecamp is just so that when you boot it up it doesn't show a blank screen. The *Global Map* is pretty useless for doing any routing or navigation.
Hi jobybyrne. Thanks for your so useful video. I have managed to create and import two routes and on the GPS it looks fine. But on the second route there are two lines on Basecamp, the one that I plotted and a straight line. On the Garmin I get two courses (one with the name and another one with a 1 at the end). Either of them seem to be taking me directly to the destination. Since I’m on the motorbike I can’t stop to check all the details. Regardless it wont follow the route, I have to check the screen at each intersection to be sure that I follow the pink line, it won’t even give instructions. Any idea what could be wrong with the parameters?
@@mgumodena Hi. Sorry I didn't reply earlier. This could be an issue with the map or the activity profile. If you send me the route (email is in the about section of my channel) I'll get a look at it.
Hi Jo, great Demo. Can you tell me how to alter the route as you can in Google maps, it seems that you cant drag and drop the route to where you want or put avoid m ways or tolls.
Hi @@bill0868. I've actually been looking at that today. If you create a route from the track directly it doesn't create any via points so you can't edit it with out it recalculating and going wrong. To address this if you import the route as described at 11:25 and first select the activity profile *Direct* and specify the number of points you want to have on the route (the route distance divided by 4 is a good rule of thumb so if the route is 100 miles (or kilometers) specify 25 points). Once it has created the direct route change the activity profile to *Driving* and it will create a driving route based on the specified number of points. You can now use all the route editing tools to edit the route and it will only recalculate the bits you've changed and won't wreck the whole route. If it's still not working contact me (email is in teh about section of my channel) and we can do a screen share or something.
@@JosephByrne Hi Jo, thank you for your quick reply. I went to the about section of your page and cant seem to find a email address.
I've been banging my head on the desk for the last hour with my Nuvi telling me to go all around the houses. Google directions did the same, taking me through the middle of Manchester... not happening... when I knew there was a much more simple and direct way. Your video has just made life so much simpler, thank you so much!
Anytime Robert. Best wishes.
I know you posted this 5 years ago, but I just bought a Zumo from a friend. This was the first time attempting to create a custom route and I couldn't have done it without your video. Many thanks... and as others have said Garmin should pay you for such a thorough and easy to follow guide. Thanks again!!
Anytime Bruce. I'm revising the channel and should have some more up to date videos soon.
After hours of failed attempts to decipher Basecamp, Furkot, and other iOS apps, your video made everything work! A few destinations of a Google Maps layer, an export to Basecamp, a few clicks, and my trip is on my BMW Navigator. Thank you for this video!
This is the most helpful video i've ever watched!!! I've been banging my head against the wall with basecamp, suddenly in half an hour I'm all sorted for trip round france, switzerland, italy and spain on my VFR! Thanks so much!
+Stephen Dawson Anytime Stephen. That sounds like an awesome trip. Have a great ride on your VFR. I have a 600RR also from the Honda stable.
Thank you so much, I finally got it to work on my Garmin 390 after watching your video. This is such a a brilliant way of planning trips on Google Maps, much easier than trying to do it in the Garmin app.
Thanks. Great feedback.
Quite impressive as this was my first ever look at how to download maps from the computer to a Garmin device (It was for my BMW Navigator V) and then enjoy a motorbike ride rather than stopping to check my back up paper atlas. I will surely try it once the weather improves and i get riding again. Thank you. Your instructions were very clear.
Anytime Mohammad. Thanks for the feedback. Best wishes.
Very helpful indeed, especially if there are no landmarks in the area. I am now able to plot the boundaries of a project site in the middle of "nowhere", transfer to my Garmin Nuvi, drive there and make sure the activities are kept within the boundaries. Excellent!!
Anytime Alan. There are loads of cool things you can do with the software. I'll spend some more time creating videos soon.
At 6:56 you mention that there are 2 options for start point and you guess that it is a glitch - I believe that they are different. As best as I can tell, if you select the top option, the device will take you first to the starting point of the trip. If you select the bottom one it will take you to the end of the trip. Obviously this makes no difference if you are, in fact, at the starting point, but if you are already somewhere along the way you would want to select the bottom option so that the device will continue the trip and not try to take you all the way beck to the beginning again. Thanks for the video - it helped me a lot!
John Demetre Thanks. I think you are right they are the beginning and end waypoints. On my video about how to plot a route from Waypoints it's a lot clearer when I go to start the route. When I made the video I wasn't expecting it to show me that screen so guessed it was a glitch.
I had every expectation that this would work for me. Everything, step by step from your video was excellent until the final stage of importing the route and allowing my Garmin Nuvi 775 to calculate the route. Once the route was on screen, it was clear that it had changed from my intended plotted route. I am going to try this again just to be sure the first time wasn't a fluke. I note that you have a number of points in your route, I had only start and finish but my original was the way I wanted to go.
+pusserhill This could be an issue with the difference between the Google map and the map on your device. Google maps are not super accurate so sometimes the points are slightly off the road you intend to use. Other than that it could be the route calculation method and avoidances specified on your device which are causing the issues. If you change the profile on your device to remove avoidances that may follow the route more accurately. I'd suggest you try and plot the same route using this method czcams.com/video/U75KTv-dxB0/video.html this uses the actual map on your device and should help you rule out whether it is a map issue.
Extremely well done. I love the fact that you did your voice over after recording the video. Such a refreshing break from the 'uumms' and 'ahhs' of people recording on the fly. As a teacher myself, I truly appreciate not just the content, but the quality of the delivery as well. Thank you.
Anytime James. Thanks for the feedback. Best wishes.
I'm obliged, Joby. At 6:34 the options "Delete, Import, Share" become available. Can't try deleting stuff for myself at the moment, my missus is away with our car and the 590. However, she's expected home in a day or so, depending on a close relative's health improving. Thanks again. Outstandingly quick, clear and helpful!
Anytime
Just want to say a BIG thank you! I spent an entire afternoon trying to do this on the actual GSP, and it was driving me crazy. Your video helped me to get it done in less than 10 minutes. Thank you!
+karenkktt Anytime Karen. Best wishes.
Awesome, I have been looking for a way to do this transfer, read all help both from Garmin and Google and no luck. You make it so simple and great directions on each step. Thank you.
Anytime William. Best wishes.
I just knew there was a way to do this! I'm planning to drive the Lincoln Highway next year from Times squar to the GG bridge using the Lincoln Highway Association maps. Knowing how to do this will be invaluable. Thanks.
Anytime. Sounds like a great trip.
Thank you Sir. A genuinely useful youtube demonstration. I have a bike trip to Le Touquet to plan and my old tracks just don't work on my new BMW Navigator. With your help, setting a new route to pass to my guests for the day will be easier. Many Thanks
Anytime Damian. Best wishes.
Thank-you so much! I have a Zumo 390 and it works for that as well. I also have been banging my head working inside BaseCamp wondering why it was so easy to do in Google Maps and so difficult in BC. You have made my riding season much more enjoyable.
Anytime Narianne. Ride safe.
Thank you so much for making this tutorial. Absolutely perfect. Busy now preparing custom routes for my next road trip. Thanks!
+Matt C Anytime Matt. My bike is coming out of hibernation this weekend. Looking forward to the fine weather. Best wishes.
WOW... you should be paid by Garmin :-) extremely helpful and easy to follow, thanks very much, subscribed.
Anytime. Best wishes.
I "Second" that motion!!!
I would never have figured this out!
This is really helpful and is by far the clearest explanation of how to plan a trip on the Garmin unit.
Thanks Ben. Best wishes.
jobybyrne : Thanks. You too! I'm planning my first real trip (new R1200GS) from California through the Grand Tetons and, although I've used Garmin devices for years, the task of using Google My Maps and Basecamp was pretty confusing at first.
Brilliant Video! I'm going away next week motorbiking around Europe and found this video superb for loading up some routes on my Garmin Nav V. Thank you so much
Anytime Matthew. Best wishes.
I just want to say thank you for this video. I have been wondering how to do exactly this for sometime as I am planning an extended long distance trip in the near future. Your instructions were clear, concise and perfect. Using the video as a guide, it took me no time to export a route to my Garmin NUVI 2595LMT. This process will make the planning of my trip so much easier. I have subscribed and will definitely browse through your channel looking for more time saving tips to help plan my trip further. Thanks again!
+The Bear Den Anytime Den. Best wishes.
Thank you sooo much. Followed all sorts of different methods and this is the only one that has worked. Well it did when I remembered to connect my zumo when I created the route.
Gary Coates Anytime Gary.
Thank you very much!! I read so many pages and didn't find how to do it. Now all is simple with your video. Great!
Forgot to write: I own a Garmin nüvi 3490LMT > works great.
great video, thanks. Just planned a tricky route to Hatfield from southern england. Had no idea that Garmin could do this, brilliant !
Anytime Dave. Best wishes.
Thank you for the instructional video - well done. Unfortunately, it demonstrates two key points: 1) Google Maps is very easy to use for creating routes and 2) BaseCamp is absurdly complex. The tool has the look and feel of a Windows 98 product making it unusable for all but the most enthusiastic CAD engineers. Garmin's days are numbered.
+Fred Coale I acknowledge there is a bit of a learning curve with Basecamp, however, once you are past that it is a really useful tool. I think since the iPad and iPhone were released people no longer want to spend time learning to use software before they start using it which is where frustrations arise. It really doesn't take much time to get up to speed with Basecamp and once you have that knowledge there is a lot of useful things you can do with it.
Thank you Very much for such a clear explanation! I'm going to buy my first GPS tomorrow (an 595LM) and I found this very very useful!. Greetings from Argentina!.
Anytime Ariel. The 595LM is a great product and I'm sure you'll enjoy using it. Best wishes.
Wow! Thank you!!! Luckily I found your extremely helpful video before I had a mental breakdown. I hope my motorcycle tour of Wales is as smooth as your video was. Two thumbs up!!!
+bikerchik33 Anytime Bikerchik. Have a great trip. Best wishes.
Bloody great, well done, thank you very much for your time, I followed your detailed instructions and made a short route around kamagaya in Japan, where I live...loaded it in to zumo, and I was advised that the map was different, did I want to recalculate, so I said yes, but ended up with a route about 25 meters long, it joined the start and finish points!!! so I did it again and this time said no..and it worked fine, I have not road tested yet. BTW I was using the zumo map and not a global one.
Mmm it could be that the activity profile on the device was set to direct. I've had that issue before where it just joins the start and end point. Great that you were able to resolve it. I'll look into some of the common issues that can catch people out and present them in a video soon.
I will do another one and check the activity profile
Thank you very much for this. It saved me a lot of time working it out by trial and error. I will use this technique a lot on my travels.
+Denis McGowan Anytime Denis. Best wishes.
Thanks! Garmin Connect was down and I needed to sort a bike route. Very helpful!
+Rachael Mitas Anytime Rachael. Best wishes.
Excellent video thank you! I've long been frustrated by being able to plan on Google Maps but not have this info on the sat nav.
Just for interest I used the Mac version of BaseCamp which achieves the same thing but is a little different. You can't double click the import track, you right click and choose 'create route from track', and layout is a bit different.
Also, my Garmin is a Nuvi 2445. Once transferred the unit gave me no notification of the new route, it was just there in the 'plan a trip' section. I guess that's just down to the functionality of the unit.
Thanks again (and lovely to have a video where you're not told to 'go ahead' and do everything!)
+rcrholden Anytime. Best wishes.
Excellent information and pretty thorough, although I was getting a bit worried when the number of points did not come out quite right for myself, when going from direct back to car. As you say , trial and error to find the right number. Nice Work
+Michael Ward Thanks Michael. Best wishes.
very thoroughly stepped through, with excellent readable video work, greatly appreciated
Anytime Steve. Best wishes.
Fantastic! Thank you! I am using this for utv route I created in the upper peninsula of Michigan this weekend.
Anytime Philip. Have a great trip.
That was the most informative, easy to understand instructional video I have seen on youtube. I Hope you are a teacher by trade.
Thanks for the feedback. I'm not a teacher but it's a career I'm considering. I deliver a lot of training at work and I like it.
Fantastic information!!. This is the only thing I have found that makes sense about BaseCamp. Think I can use it now.
Thanks
Anytime Jim. Best wishes.
This was very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to produce it.
Anytime
excellent video! sharing with my Goldwing chapters!
+Dan Rymarz Anytime Dan. Good to hear from another Honda man. Best wishes.
Excellent explanation, worked very well. Used a Zumo 390 and an I Mac. Thanks.
+westers9568 Anytime mate. Pleased it was helpful.
Thanks for this planning a cycle trip in Germany this year and this will come in very handy
Anytime. Have a great trip.
Great tutorial! Thanks alot! This opens up a whole new level of riding!
Anytime MJ. Best wishes.
OMG very well explained tutorial really helped me a lot to plot routes on my 390 garmin. thank you so much
Anytime George. Best wishes.
Really well thought out and explained on a nice runway. Thank you for taking the time to explain this!
Anytime Paul. Thanks for the feedback. Best wishes.
This is brilliant!! Thank you so much for the excellent, down-to-earth explanation!
Anytime Richard. Best wishes.
Bardzo dziękuję, za wspaniałą lekcję planowania trasy :)))
Thanks for making this video it has saved me so much time and more time to ride :)
Anytime Paul. Best wishes.
Jobybyrne,
You are brilliant, my google maps is using windows 7 so a bit different but i got it in the end. Am now going to see if I can do route on google maps as normal and try sending that to map source if possible.Thanks you very much for posting.
Thanks. Always been frustrated having to recreate routes from scratch on SatNav when they exist on Google. Just need to get up to speed with using your technology!
Anytime Peter. It's a great method once you get it working. Best wishes.
You sir are a legend! literally spent hours trying to figure this out thanks so much!
Anytime mate. Best wishes.
@@JosephByrne Thanks again made our weekend touring a hell of a lot easier! Best wishes to yourself
Absolutely the best tutorial on the process I have ever seen. I do have a question; 1) how do you change the route before importing if you decided to take an alternative street or road?
Hi Larry, Does this video help czcams.com/video/2sLSv96Grpg/video.html. If it doesn't let me know and I'll create a new one for those steps. Keep the questions / requests coming as I'm not great with coming up with new ideas.
Yes, it does. Thanks ! Right now I'm trying to figure out how to delete all the untitled maps I created while practicing. Can't make them go away. Apparently, there is some difference between google maps and google maps engine? Can't figure out how to access maps engine. I'll figure it out eventually. Baby steps.
Thanks mate, saved me tons of frustration with Basecamp!
Anytime Nic. Best wishes.
Thanks man, that is very useful, well done! Now I am planning all my routes to Lofoten islands with this system.
+Thomas Farina Anytime Thomas. Best wishes.
Thank you very much. Will try that for my adventures on my bike.
Anytime Dave. Best wishes.
I love how your version of the garmin device has British accent.
+Combat Aviator You can download her if you like. She is British English Serena and she is delightful. www8.garmin.com/support/download_details.jsp?id=6160When I was in America recently and she was pre installed on the Garmin Nuvi I got with my hire car so I quickly changed the voice over to her.
Awesome instructions, thanks.
Anytime. Ride like the wind.
THANK YOU Joseph. As others have said, your video has saved me tons of time.
Thanks Jobybyrne,
very good video and appreciate the effort including showing the Zumo in action on the road. There was one part in your video you skipped over rather quickly (at 6.56') where the Zumo shows different points to start from. THAT is the confusing part to me as I create my routes by selecting towns I intend to drive through instead of drawing like you do. Those point end up becoming waypoints when imported into Garmin and they show up in that list you see on your screen at 6.56.
I never know what that is for because the ZUMO should know where I am so why do I need to tell it where to start from ?? As far as I can figure its meant to decide which waypoint you want to travel to and the ZUMO reclaculates your best route to that waypoint ignoring a more curvy route you may have had plotted.
Here is the big problem, ones you get to the first waypoint on that list and don't stop, because you just wanted to travel through that spot, Zumo thinks that you missed it and tries to reroute you back to the missed waypoint messing up the whole route. HOW DO YOU AVOID THAT ?? Sorry about the long winded reply but this has been bugging me for a while. Keep upi the good work
Cheers
Hi Joe. From my understanding if you plot a route with waypoints, when you go to navigate it, the Zumo shows the screen to select the next destination in case you want to start the route from a specific point. For example if you had a long route and you only wanted to do the 2nd half you could select a waypoint half way round the route and then it will navigate you to there using the calculation mode selected e.g. Fastest Time and then take you round the rest of your route from there. For some reason when I imported the route from Google Maps it plotted the waypoint for the start of the route twice, I've seen that on the Basecamp screen now I've checked so that's why it showed up twice. If I'd plotted a route using multiple waypoints, those would have all showed up on the "Select Next Destination" screen.
With regards to passing way points I have experienced that phenomenon before and I appreciate how frustrating it can be. To use an analogy the Garmin sees route waypoints like physical flags stuck in the ground (like you might use for mini golf) that you have to go and pick up in order to continue the route. If you miss one (because it was placed slightly wide of the road etc.) It wants you to go back and get it and will keep re-routing you until either you go back for it or you continue riding in the right direction until the next waypoint is closer than the one you missed.
So if you pass a waypoint and it keeps routing you back to it either continue to the next waypoint (if you know roughly where it is) and ignore all the re routing, or stop the route and initiate it again choosing the next waypoint on the "Start from" screen.
In my early days of navigation I had lots of incidents like this for example I'd be riding along a country lane and then veer off onto a dirt road to pick up a flag and then be instructed to, "make a U turn when possible." Part of the learning experience I suppose although in the UK we also refer to these as "schoolboy errors" of which I've made plenty.
Thanks for your feedback on the video. If there is anything you'd like to see on the channel let me know.
jobybyrne
Thanks for the comprehensive reply, much appreciated. I think I will from now on only place waypoints where I actually want to stop...see how that goes
Cheers
Big Joe I found placing the waypoint on the road I wanted to take out of the town or village I was passing through helped too. That avoided it being misplaced on a side street.
Excellent video! Very good explanation of something I've been looking to do for ages. Does the Garmin's traffic option still work with custom route, or does it simply navigate along the chosen route?
That's a good question Dario. I've not tried it, however I would expect it to work if it was configured in the activity profile on the device. I'll try and test it when I have the opportunity.
Hi Joseph. A beautiful video mate. Loved it! I'm sure I won't be running into any issues since you have described everything so wonderfully, so thank you for that. I was wondering that when you make a custom route with a start and an endpoint. If you start the navigation when you leave home, does it take you to the start point first and then seamlessly transition into the custom route?
Yes if you choose the start point it will navigate you to the start of the route and then start navigating the route. Effectively it modifies the route slightly to include the fist step of getting you from where you are to the start.
@@JosephByrne God Bless
Dude you are awesome. Great video. So professionally done. Many many thanks.
Anytime Robert. Best wishes.
great job, helped me get going
Anytime. Best wishes.
So after importing the route, the 590 will calculate the route. It does that according to the settings on the unit as opposed to the settings you had on Basecamp where you created the route. Yes/no? If so, you can end up with a completely different route that still goes through your via points but can go along all the wrong roads. Especially if you have reduced the number of navigation points down to 25. e.g. if you have a section of motorway already on the route you'd have to make sure "avoid motorways" is unchecked. But the route calculation on the 590 could then send you onto other sections of motorway if it thinks that's faster, shorter or whatever other settings you have. Trouble with all this is that you don't know or realise until after you have fired up the route to start your ride.
You can check the route on your device as shown at 6:12. I'd recommend you do that as part of the planning stage. If the route is not the one required you can then refine it in basecamp and check it again. When you send the route to the device it recalculates based on the algorithm on the device which is different to that on the PC. Due to this sometimes it will not route exactly as you've plotted it on you PC. However, with experience it becomes easier to get it right first time.
And that's exactly the problem. You shouldn't have to check it after you've imported it to the satnav. You've used the Garmin program to create the route and so it should appear on the satnav as you designed it. Otherwise you might just as well create the route on the satnav itself. Garmin have lost the plot since the Zumo550 on which this doesn't happen.
The navigation engine is different on the device so that's the way it has to be. As noted once you adjust to it you can plot and navigate without any issues.
It's not the way it has to be. It's the way you have accepted it to be. Mistake. The Zumo550 doesn't do it that way so why do the new ones? Probably cheaper to program it that way so bigger profits for Garmin.
No I understand the technology so I understand that each route needs to be recalculated prior to navigation so that the unit can match it to the map it's running. It was the same on the 660 and 550.
Great video. I am using a Garmin Zumo 450/550 motorcycle GPS. I find that if I take the original track between two points and create a route, it creates only a straight line between the two endpoints. My guess is that if I sent that "route" to my Garmin, Garmin would import it only as waypoints, and create its own route. But I AM able to send not the route, but the track -- the original list of waypoints -- to my Zumo. I'm not sure the Garmin will navigate the saved route with voice instructions, but it will certainly show it, and allow me to follow it. Anything you can tell us about these particular Zumo models and the difference between importing a "route" and the actual "track" might be helpful.
+cmballer1 I am having the same problem, it didn't create the route drawn on google maps but just a straight line. I am using the Garmin 660LM. I think it may have something to do with that I have more than two, I have 3 waypoints installed. I had to make the third one, because google maps was taking a different route then the one that was intended. Also when I imported to base camp it didn't come up with the tracks when I uploaded to base camp.
+Linda Dieter Are you using the detailed map and have you specified an appropriate activity profile such as driving or motorcycling?
+jobybyrne I started back from scratch with a new google map and imported to base came following each step and it worked. It also worked when I reduced the points on the map. Thanks for the great videos they really helped me end my frustrations, mainly because you are using the same version of the software. The basecamp videos needs updated to the current version to be more helpful!
+Linda Dieter Great to hear Linda. Best wishes.
Thank you for the video. Basecamp is horrible for dynamic drag/drop/intuitive route planning.
Anytime Valen. Basecamp is a bit clunky but once you know your way around it, it can be useful.
Great tutorial. many thanks for all your help sorting this out. Motters
Oh thank you for this. Garmin Basecamp is simply dreadful for route creation
+Harry Flashman Anytime Harry. I get on ok with Basecamp but it's good to have options. Best wishes.
Extremely cool, and well-explained; thank you, from Canada.
Anytime. Best wishes.
I am kind of slow so I will have to watch this a couple of times . With that being said you have made an excellent video. Thank you for taking time to do this. One question I just have to ask, why do people drive on the wrong side of the road over there ;()
Hi John. Thanks for the feedback. I think driving on the left has something to do with jousting. Sword in right hand shield on left arm. Ride at each other from the left and engage with swords on the right.
Now it makes perfect sense! @@JosephByrne
oh you are a life saver thank you so much...eurotrip here i come :)
Boulits pap Anytime. Have a great trip.
Thank you sooo much my friend it worked !!
Anytime Irteza. Best wishes.
I love your video and you are one Master teacher :) - Thank you for sharing and appreciate your effort. Can I ask how do I manage longer routes spanning countries in a single map. Would it have to go through different layers and then be imported as separate routes? If imported as separate route - would they happen to auto resume if I am on the road? I am a newbie with GPS gadgetry and never used GPS in my last 65000 motorcycle miles in UK in last 6years. Just learning to see how best I can utilize a gps in countries outside of UK. Once again, thank you for your time and wonderful work that you create. Btw, using a Montana 600 but I suppose is pretty much the same logic.
FreeBirD From my experience I've found if you plot a long route and pick it up mid way the device realises and navigates you to the next waypoint rather than bringing you back to the beginning. If it's a super long route it might be worth breaking it up into riding days though.
Great video jobybyrne. Just a couple of things Is there any differance using the mapping in Garmin connect rather than Google maps? Do the courses include elevation data that can be viewed on a Edge 810.
From my experience the Garmin Maps are more accurate than Google. I believe they have elevation data too.
Very helpful, thanks a lot.
+hollowaysteve Anytime Steve. Best wishes.
Thank you very much! You just saved me a lot of time and it worked like a charm. Really appreciate it! :)
+Michael Florentino Anytime Michael. Best wishes.
Thanks. That's what I am lookin for!..
Great to hear.
Great video. I wonder what happens though if you leave the route you uploaded. Will the device update the route and you loose your original route or will it navigate you back to the original route and then continue?
John Bell It will recalculate and navigate you towards the next point on the route.
Thanks for the feedback! I wonder which navigation point you mean. Is it the ones noted with a blue flag on basecamp? Also, to 6:58 in your video: In my experience it matters what you select there. The glitch seems to be that it lists the same selection twice, but I think there you can select the start or end point, i.e. you can choose which direction you want to follow your route. The lower one seems to be the destination.
Other question: if I join a trip route somewhere along the way ( I.e. not at a end or starting point) will it realize that I’m on the trip route or will it navigate me to the starting point? In other words will it realize that I am on the route without hitting the starting point first?
Thanks jobybyrne. I have been trying to make sense out of using Garmin's not very user-friendly software for years, and your lecture is excellent.
However I am having a problem using it, on both my PC and the Netbook I use for routing away from home.
When I try to import the .kmx file of the route, from the folder on the PC, into Base Camp, it appears to do it as it flashes up "importing data", but there is nothing in the Base Camp folder I was saving it into, or anywhere else in Base Camp that I can find. I tried numerous times but no joy.
What am I doing wrong?
I thought it was because it saves as a .kmx file and not a .kml but you say that is correct on one of your replies.
Thank You so much.
Hi. Your Garmin videos are excellent so please keep them coming. However, I am new to this sort of thing so why create a route in Google maps or Tyre To Travel when you can create a route from scratch in Garmin Basecamp? .
+Robert Taylor Hi Robert. Some people don't find Basecamp very user friendly so they prefer to plot on Google Maps or to use Tyre. There is a small learning curve with Basecamp but once you are past that it's a good product. It was same with Mapsource (the predecessor to Basecamp). The people I know who took the time to learn to use it got on really well with it.
+jobybyrne Wow thanks so much for very quick reply. Many thanks & understood. I personally use Basecamp due to your excellent teaching videos. At the moment plotting a route from Stowmarket to Plymouth on my motorcycle. Having a few problems but this is due to inexperience so I am sure I will crack it! Best regards. Rob Taylor
Thank you for this nice video. Is it possible to create a round-trip route directly in the Zumo 590Lm, just using British postcodes?
A million thanks for this man!
+Ranjith Murali Anytime Ranjith. Best wishes.
Excellent video thanks jobybyrne. I'm quote new to route planning, and i'm having difficulties - when I transfer a route across to my Zumo 590, and select the route in trip planner, it only gives me the option to navigate to one waypoint at a time, and if I select say the second or third waypoint, it will take me directly to that waypoint, and not along the route. So when there are waypoints, it seems it does not recognise the route as one route. Any help would be very appreciated, I'm stumped!
When you plot a route with waypoints, when you start navigating the route it gives you the option as to which waypoint you want to start from. This is incase you want to start the route half way round or whatever. Once you get to the selected waypoint it will start navigating the route. To check this for yourself go into the device settings and turn GPS off. Then go and execute the route from trip planner. The unit will ask *do you want to simulate driving this route* if you tap *OK* then it will start navigating the route so you can check that all is well.
Question, in the latter half you mentioned it deviated a bit but you didn't mind...how would you go about correcting that in Basecamp if you did? Is it like Google and you just need to drop in an extra point to 'force' it to use that road instead of the one it 'wants'?
Still debating if I want to spend the money on a Zumo this year or next, and the ability to save and use custom routes is 90% of the reason I might be willing to get it.
When you convert the track to a route, choose the "direct" activity profile and when prompted, specify the number of points equal to the number of miles or kilometres of the total route. When basecamp creates the route use the route tools to insert, move and delete points to get it to be closer to what is required. Next change the activity profile from "direct" to "driving." The route will recalculate and should be closer to what is required. If it's still not right you can either continue using the route tools, insert point, move point and erase point until it's correct.
Thank you for this informative video,
I have couple of questions.
1.This zumo device you are using does it have off road navigation I need a one with off road navigation I know there is Oregon and Montana devices but I need some thing that works in city as well.
2. I plotted a route which was selection of on road and off road the on road part was accurate but the off road bit was drawing straight lines from way point to the nearest road. I am using nuvi 3950.
And lastly your device looks cool to me does it support maps in .img format, I always wanted a GPS that can mount on my dashboard instead of my windshield which requires to stretch and is a nuisance while entering data does the dash mount comes bundled with this zumo device or is it bought separately.
I really appreciate if you find time and reply to my queries.
Thank you
Hi Tausif
1. The Zumo 590LM has the ability to do off road navigation. It's one of the navigation preferences.
2. You may need to plot 2 routes, one using a road activity profile and a 2nd one using the off-road activity profile within Basecamp. I'll look into this.
3. I think the Zumo only supports the garmin maps. The dashboard mount I'm using is a bean bag type seen here. amzn.to/1C8Rjbr. It didn't come with the device but is a really good alternative to a windscreen mount.
jobybyrne
Hi Jobybyrne
Many thanks for your reply indeed I made the route on base camp with off road activity first and then direct I used two activities but both end up showing the same route on my device. It seems the limitation from my device side or if you can share a tutorial with off road route will be awesome.
About the maps .img is a gamin map format I am using the same format in my nuvi so was just wondering if the map format is same through all the Garmin devices.
About the dash mount was not aware it can be bought separately thanks for sharing the link will look around for that soon.
Very helpful. Is it possible to do this for a route in a country that your Zumo doesn’t have a map for? For example, as you’re in the UK and have Garmin’s UK map already installed, could you create a route in the USA and import it to the Zumo? Or will there be insufficient data because you don’t have the Garmin USA map installed? (I’m trying to figure out how to create an entire map that I can import to my 590. Maybe I can only do that with OSM? I have EU lifetime maps, but I’m now in Australia and I don’t want to buy the Garmin map if I can avoid it).
Hi Ronan. In order to navigate the route on the device you would need the map for that region. You can purchase additional maps online from Garmin and load them onto an SD card if the device runs out of space, or you could buy a unit locally that has the required maps on it. The device can't navigate a route if it doesn't have the map for that region installed thought. That's an absolute.
Hi Ronan. I have a USA trip planned shortly so I am going to purchase and install the USA map on my Zumo then plot a route for completeness. Expect that shortly.
My hero, thanks for this!
Anytime.
This is a lazy question really and I will go out and experiment, but I'll ask it anyway! What is the behaviour if, when following the route, I deviate from the directions given by the device? Will the device then recalculate the whole rest of the route according to its rules/activity profile? Or will is try and get you back on the route? What if you deviated on purpose around a small section of the route? Would it then try and get you back to the first point you missed, or would it let you follow the rest of the route after the point where you rejoined it? I hope that kind of makes sense!
benny532017 Yes it makes perfect sense. If you deviate from the route it will recalculate and navigate you to the next point on the route based on the activity profile. If you do a big deviation and keep ignoring the recalculated route but then ride back onto the route it will realise and continue the route from where you rejoined it. It won't navigate you back to the point you missed unless you turn back on yourself and start riding the route backwards. It always looks for the next logical point on the route you created. One issue you can encounter is if you select the route and choose *Navigate to the start of the route.* If you don't ride over the start point (like if you put the start point in a petrol station and you don't ride into it) the device won't start the route and will keep trying to navigate you to the start point. If that happens press *stop* then initiate the route again and don't choose *Navigate to start of routre.* The device will realise you are already on the route and continue from your current point.
jobybyrne thank you! Really appreciate the response. I've been feeling a bit annoyed with the few hours I've spent playing with this so far (I'm fairly new to Garmin for motorcycle use, but have been using farming for many years for hot air ballooning so know my way around reasonably well) and I've been wondering why all the complication, i simply want to follow the route regardless of activity profile etc. However I have just made a route and loaded it into OSMand to follow through Italy and Spain and I can now see the reasoning behind most of the Garmin 'quirks.' I think the answer is, you just have to put some hours in learning. One thing that i still can't see the logic in... If you start with a track in basecamp, then convert to a route it calculates that route. If you then export that to the device, upon saying "import" the device then calculates again, and we are hoping that it is calculating the same as Basecamp did i guess. Wouldn't it be nice to eliminate this second calculation step and instead just have the device 'check' that the map the route was made on matches that in the device (and activity profile) and therefore just trust the route? I think that would lead to less confusion unless there's something about this step that I'm missing? That's is again! B
In am planning a new trip so this is a bit different than the other one. I have one trip set up with 4 different layers, one for travel out and one back along with a couple while there. Can I export these separately or do they need to be individual maps and not layers?
Can u explain how to get to my maps on current on maps as cant see it
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Hi, great video. so informative, thank you. What do you do if the original track is correct, but when you create a route in basecamp and its not the same as the track? set driving correctly but Bascamp has not followed the track when crating a route. If that makes sense?
When you convert the track to a route, choose the "direct" activity profile and when prompted, specify the number of points equal to the number of miles or kilometres of the total route. When basecamp creates the route use the route tools to insert, move and delete points to get it to be closer to what is required. Next change the activity profile from "direct" to "driving." The route will recalculate and should be closer to what is required. If it's still not right you can either continue using the route tools, insert point, move point and erase point until it's correct.
Thanks very much for replying. I had a quick go of this earlier and it worked. Just got to see if the Nuvi wants to play along when driving the route. Thanks again.
thank you very much for this!
Anytime Mark. Best wishes.
Thank you man, thank you
+Baraka Urio Anytime Baraka. Best wishes.
Great video take your time works perfect even for computer novice like me👍😁
Thanks Kevin. Best wishes.
jobybyrne
Hi can you keep recalculate mode on zumo when creating you're own map or turn off so you r created route stays as you done on pc.
Thanks for any info Kevin.
When you transfer the route to the Zumo it will always recalculate as the Zumo needs to work out the routing for itself. If you have plotted it correctly and the activity profile you are using on the Zumo matches the one you used in basecamp, for example if it has all of the same route avoidances, then it should match the route even after it re calculates. If it doesn't match that's usually because a route avoidance such as *avoid highways* is enabled on the Zumo. If that is the case change the activity profile on the Zumo and it will re calculate again and should be right second time.
jobybyrne Cheers😁👍
Great video, thought this was the answer to my prayers! Created the route on My Maps, exported as XML, but when I come to import into BaseCamp I get an error message and the file does not appear in the list.
Did you have the option to export to KML? Google change things a lot so that may have moved now, but KML is a format you can import into Basecamp.
Very good video with nice, clear instructions. I do have a question. I'm trying to create a reverse route and I keep getting the message that it's not possible because of one way roads (I suspect it's due to to the exit ramps?). Anyway, Google goes on to say to make a copy of the route and edit the copy. I tried this but the route gets messed up. Do you have any suggestions or advice short of creating a brand new route?
Import the route you want to do into Basecamp using the procedure in this video to convert it into a route and then use this procedure czcams.com/video/Zk06mnbRr_A/video.htmlm21s to invert it. If it's still messed up, use the procedure described in this video to reduce the number of points that are used to create the route, from there invert the route and delete all the points around the areas where it gets messed up then let the software recalculate and it should work. If you are still having issues contact me using the about tab on my channel and I'll set up an online conference to resolve it.
Thank you for the quick reply and great information. I will certainly give it a try and see if if comes out right.
Hi , Have you ever tried TYRE it is so easy I use it to plot on google and transfer to my tom tom rider. It seems a lot quicker than your system, I can also email the same route to my mates and they can be on the same route as me when on a long trip.
+RMG One of my earlier videos covers using Tyre with Garmin devices. It is not ideal because Tyre uses Google Maps which do not match Garmin maps particularly well. For this reason if you plot your route using Tyre and do not check it using Basecamp you may get diverted un necessarily due to inconsistencies with the map. You can share your Basecamp routes with friends either by exporting them or sharing your adventure and sending your friends a link.
Having just bought a Garmin nuviCam can I use this technique with that device as well? Excellent video. Bravo!
+James G It should work exactly the same if there is a trip planner on the device. The technique worked on my Zumo 660 also which is several years old now.
Really great tutorial, I recently purchased a secondhand GPS, Zumo 395 LM. How do I move the lifetime map updates to my own name so that I can download updates and use Basecamp as need be. Thank you.
Hi Rynhardt. In the first instance you need to contact the person who sold it to you and ask them to *unregister* it from their devices in *My Garmin*. To do this they need to navigate to **my.garmin.com** and from there they can unregister the device. When they have done that, you can subsequently sign into *My Garmin* my.garmin.com and register the device to you. From there you can download the maps. I know this because when I sold my 660 on Ebay the new owner asked me to do the same. If you cannot contact the new owner then you'll need to follow up with Garmin customer support.
This is actually very complicated, LOL. I just got it and have only been able to create a map on google and download it onto my computer via basecamp and other apps. So how do i get the actual definition and details to appear on the map itself? Or do i have to actually have the map downloaded onto the garmin device before i plot this route and segment of the map?